Gun Adapter Problems

I posted this video to show why it is not a good idea to use anything other than a single shot for shotgun adapters. I was curious and wanted to help show other people that might be wondering what could happen. I am not an expert on the internal workings of all guns, so if I explained something wrong, please don't hound me about it. Just trying to prevent you from making a potentially costly mistake. More random and unique videos to come! Like and Subscribe!

[@matthewarkins5374]

Did you read on the he adapter that it says .38 Special and NOT .357 Magnum? There is actually a bigger difference in these two calibers than a lot of people think! Short Lane DOES NOT make a .357 Magnum for the EXACT reason that happened to your gun! It is NOT because you used a pump! Call them and they will tell you! I asked them the same question and that is what they told me. Another note, they make a .44 Special adapter. You should not try shooting a 44 Magnum through this for the same reason! .357 Magnums can shoot .38 Special, 44 Magnum can shoot .44 Special, .454 Casull can shoot .45 Long Colt, more powerful cartridges / guns and adapters can shoot lesser powerful calibers, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND! Just a bit of advice so you or someone else doesn't get hurt or killed!

[@unitedstatesirie7431]

Why do you assume he can read ?

[@rudygeorgiamulesandcountry1594]

A .38 Special casing is 1.155" long, while a .357 Mag. Casing is 1.290" long; or 0.135" longer. This IS longer than 1/8 inch over the .38 Spl. Plus .357 SAAMI maximum pressure is 35,000 psi, while a .38 Special operated around 17,000 psi . Jamming a .357 into the shorter chamber of the .38 would have "possibly" forced the projectile into the throat (funnel)of the barrel where the casing had no room to expand to release the projectile, then the bullet "could have" acted as a partial barrel obstruction. N0 doubt pressures skyrocketed. Then you were firing old handloads of unknown origin or loadings. They could have been ~H~0~T~ . Then again this MAY have had nothing to do with ANY of the above. Examining the empty casings should offer valuable advice. I'm thinking it Possibly had more to do with why you acquired the Mossberg for $ 100 in the first place.

[@rudygeorgiamulesandcountry1594]

"Chaszel" chamber adapters, a division of "Central Tooling Inc." made in the USA in Taccoa,GA does makes one very fine rifled 12 gauge to .357 Magnum chamber adapters as well as many more potent rifle caliber conversions. I'm totally impressed with mine.

[@TheJhaley12]

These adapters are recommended for single shot shotguns. I would NEVER use these in a pump or auto it doesn't make sense.

[@cdawson198600]

This wasn't a chamber adapter problem, it was a product used incorrectly problem. These adapters are designed for single shot shotguns not pump actions. And never use a .357mag in a .38special chamber, the other way around is ok but the pressures in a .357 are alot higher than a .38special.

[@SpareTimeProjects]

+cdawson198600 Did you read the video description and listen to what I said in the video before you decided to comment? 1. I knew these adapters are designed for single shot shotguns.2. I had a crappy old pump action and wanted to experiment for the sake of the video to show others why they are designed for single shots.3. The .38 special shotgun adapter can take .357 mag rounds because it is a solid piece of CNC'd steel that is thicker than most .357 handgun chambers. It can take the pressure.

[@unitedstatesirie7431]

@@SpareTimeProjects then why does the barrel adapter only say .38 Special on it ?

[@Goodnightandgoodluck-c7m]

@@SpareTimeProjects we did read except your title is misleading and made it like the adapter is faulty

[@anonymousx431]

I agree. everything that was done here was wrong

[@bleachedtiedye]

​@@SpareTimeProjectsbut it's not deep enough for the length of 357. Mag a few micrometers can make a difference

[@edwardprice140]

Short Lane does not make a 357 adapter max pressure 35,000 PSI. You should have used 38 special, max pressure 17,000 PSI. That's why it is labeled 12g-38sp. Even if the shell fits.

[@SpareTimeProjects]

I contacted short lane before I even ordered the adaptor and asked if it could handle the pressure of .357 magnum loads. They replied saying they don't endorse it, but the hardness and quality of their steel should handle it fine and therefore should be safe. I was ordering it specifically because I had a bunch of old boxes of magnum rounds laying around but no gun to shoot them, which is why I checked with them first. I may be adventurous and daring, but I'm not stupid.

[@looseballs1966]

You are very lucky you are still here man, take it from an avid reloader and someone who has read many ballistics/reloading books, a shotgun round is made to work at a max chamber pressure of somewhere below 12,000cup,the 357mag round opperates at a max chamber pressure of about 40,000cup,the 38 special also works at about 19,000cup max chamber pressure,so what you sortta did was expose the action of the shotgun to something in the area of 4times a shotgun shell's powder charge.

[@DeanMk1]

^^^^^ THIS. EXACTLY ^^^^^

[@islandtime100]

You did something the manufacture said was not recommended and your surprised? Not trying to be a jack-wagon; but apply common sense next time. Who cares about the gun being damaged; I'd worry about yourself. You can always replace a gun but you cannot replace you. Thank you for ending this on a Safety Note.

[@SpareTimeProjects]

I had enough common sense to know it wasn't a good idea, which is why I tried it with a gun I didn't care about and I took all the necessary precautions. I did it to show people who may not know some of the potential dangers why it is not a good idea. This way, maybe I can help prevent someone or their weapon from being hurt.

[@sureshmayekar2466]

islandtime100

[@rbarbour64]

The adapters were meant for single shot guns. The more parts a gun has, the more problems it will have. Go with a single shot.

[@kennethconey3308]

Since the mid 1930s people have been blowing up 38 Special revolvers by firing .357 magnum ammo in them inspite of all of the ammo and gun making companies warning do not shoot 357 ammunition in any gun not specifically marked 357 magnum. Congratulations for being the first to blow up his shotgun the same way. It plainly says on the side, .38 Special. So you decided to see what happened if you ignored that. LoL, now you know.

[@hojohojo674]

I use mine on my side by side shottie and they work great. The rifled 8 inch ones are surprisingly accurate. I know everyone has been critical about the obvious stuff, but thanks for putting the shortcomings to rest.

[@johnndavis7647]

First, its always risky shooting someone elses reloads. They might have been safe in his gun but not in yours. Backed out primers is a sign of high pressures. A pierced primer can blow gas back through the firing pin hole and damage the firing pin spring. In some designs it can go through the action into your eye. I am glad you were not injured. 357Mag is a pretty high pressure Round. Be carefull with that even in a single shot. Stick to 38 spl. John Davis

[@dough6759]

Wouldn't it be funny if this KZbin video poster did a little research and found out that the old house where he found the .357 reloads used to belong to a guy who died when his gun exploded when he fired one of his reloads? Well, maybe not funny.

[@russbilzing5348]

I am pleased to note that you did not attempt to calumniate or blame the parent company for your mistake.

[@sinbad20001]

Well, now you know why they recommend single shots! I have a number of these things up to a .45-70. No problems!

[@rudygeorgiamulesandcountry1594]

H&R, - N.E.F ... offers 2 different types of single shot recievers, although they appear identical; they're N0T . Type SB1 is intended for shotgun shells and Pistol Cartridge Rifle (PCR) ammo 0NLY. Type SB2 is intended for pressures anything above SB1 class

[@davo171]

Why would you shoot some unknown reloads in your gun?

[@SpareTimeProjects]

because they were free. And I don't think they are reloads, just really old.

[@davo171]

Let me be the first to tell you, then...dont shoot reloads from another in your gun, you dont know what is safe and you want to keep your eyes and gun.

[@davo171]

Same for old ammo, it can be unsafe.

[@piotrjannek1754]

Cause he us an idiot

[@docb1844]

website says no 357, just 38 spcl

[@docb1844]

+DocB EXTREMELY different pressures in the chamber and barrel in 357 vs 38 spcl

[@ddaattrroonn]

What lead you to believe this insert was designed to accommodate a .357 round? The insert is labeled .38. On the Short Lane website, it says to only used it with ammo for which it is designed.

[@barndweller4573]

You really need to know what is going on with a reload, Yes as I am sure now you know not to ever put a 357 in a 38 Special chamber. The 38 Special chamber is normally shorter than the 357 so a person can not put the 357 in a 38 Special chamber. Thats why they designed the Mag Rounds to be just a little longer than the 38 Special or the 44 Special. A GREAT book to read is 6 guns that takes you through the history of the Gun and has a lot of information about the man who helped design the Magnium rounds we have now. Keith something is the mans name. Its a FUN read. Also I handload ammo and I handload 38 Special and 357 and the cases are just a little longer in the 357 and the preasure is a lot higher in the 357 than the 38 Special. You are not stupid, just inexperienced and very lucky that this is all that happened. Handloads (most people call reloads) are not bad ammo, in fact most of the time the ammo you end up with is better and more accurate than factory loads. But You have to know what is in the load, normally a person rarely shoots handloads someone else has loaded unless they really know them and trust them (my son and grand daughter shoot my handloads). Most handloaded ammo is marked as to what it is, when it was loaded and the powder charge. Your 357 ammo could have been loaded to Ruger revolver specks, and that can be much higher than standard 357 preasures, the Ruger revolvers are designed to take it. Please do not let this give you a bad taste for handloads, it may be something you want to do someday. I enjoy the casting of the bullets and handloading more than I enjoy shooting now. I used to handload so I could shoot, now I shoot so I can handload some more........

[@markgoulette1494]

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[@danwimmer6117]

Elmer Keith is the authors name.

[@effyoo6081]

4 minutes lookin at 2 adapters in a bag.

[@rbarbour64]

The adapters were meant for singleshot shotguns. But can be used in pumps. I got 7 adapters and the ones I used, worked great. They are smooth bore. Only thing I needed to do was ajust my aim a little. No big deal. I got mine from ShortLane adapters.

[@jfalk930]

Notice: Shortlane DOES NOT have a .357 adapter. Only 38 special.

[@SpareTimeProjects]

Thank you, Captain Obvious.

[@sawmiller4375]

Watching this, I was thinking - Oh, crap, here it comes! You kinda screwed up and got slammed pretty hard in the comments. Hopefully, folks considering this in a repeater will see your video. Looks like that was your intent in making the video - I didn't see you blaming the maker. Likely, the adapters would be and continue to be fine for emergency use if you stayed with low pressure rounds - smaller guage shotgun or .22LR in your Mossberg. It's important to stay with a standing breech, like a single shot or a double, for the handgun rounds, especially those of high pressure. Even then, I'd stay away from .357, 9MM etc in the old cast shotgun actions or those with large firing pins (1/8" diameter).

[@SpareTimeProjects]

THANK YOU! Finally, someone paid attention and realized my reason for doing this and making the video for it! You're right, I don't blame the manufacturer at all, and I even recommend these adapters. I specifically say in the video that I only tried it to see why they recommend them to be used in a single shot. I figured that if I was wondering what their reasoning was, then others must be as well, so I wanted to find out for myself and everyone else.

[@pitchforkpeasant6219]

Shot one 45 acp thru my pump. Noticed immediately that the extractor wants to hold on to the shell and just had to take barrel off to get shell out. Think adapter is a touch too long like burning up my old flares. Stupid? Maybe. Learning has risks and is a lesson to others😁

[@SpareTimeProjects]

You are probably right. Being an old mossberg and old reloads, who knows. But I've put almost 150 of them through my new single shot gun with no issues. Just trying to save other peoples' pump actions!

[@Max-ye9xg]

Bro let me help you let me tell you how incredibly powerful these guns are I blew my finger off with the tendons dangling finger meet meat and ligaments. You can lose your eyesight blow off a hand or finger it is not worth it to say I can get around these issues it's not worth it use it in a single shot or don't use them

[@Max-ye9xg]

Also my friend let me tell you how powerful these guns are and how easily you can blow your hand off the cylinder on my 45 Colt my friend was shooting it next to me and it exploded like a grenade somehow no one got hurt out of a whole bag of ammo I grabbed one bullet luckily only one was loaded it must have been a Hot load look away from the reloading press for 1 second and put double gunpowder and BLAMKMOO GRENADE!!!

[@Max-ye9xg]

I just read your post you seem very determined that you want to use it in a pump but don't do it bro it's not worth it it's not the end of the world and we don't realize how dangerous these things are till something goes the explosive power of Big boar 45 Colt 454 casull 4570 is about a half a stick of dynamite if it goes wrong

[@MrRocque]

HOW is this a 'Gun Adapter Problem'? The title is misleading...there's nothing in your video to indicate any of the problems were caused by the adaptors. More like they were caused by USER ERROR, lack of following directions, inability to think critically and faults with a USED firearm. NONE of which is the adaptors problem. So...why does the title insinuate the issue is the adaptors'? Hmmm, diesel in my gas engine runs like crap, must be the fuel's problem. Pls, change the title or repost with a more accurate title. Perhaps, 'Oops, my bad, adaptors in the wrong gun'

[@SpareTimeProjects]

This video is titled like this so it shows up in peoples' research of the adapters. If you completely listened to my commentary, you would hear me say repeatedly that there is nothing wrong with the adapters and that I highly recommend ordering one. If you read the direction of my description, you would see that I decided to experiment and try this and post a video about it so others would not try it. Hmmm, guy on youtube fails to think critically about what he hears and reads on a video, must be the uploader's fault.

[@MrRocque]

sparetimeprojects6 I actually did listen to the video and read the comments...doesn't change the fact that the title still insinuates the problem is the adaptor's, not the gun or the user's decisions. YOU titled it, YOU uploaded it, so you're right...it is the UPLOADER's fault. If you want it to show up in searches, use 'tags' and a better title... like "Gun Adaptors and my gun's issues". There's more then enough misinformation, misleading opinions and ill informed 'reviews' on You Tube...should a user have to read the whole description and watch the video to find out your title is only worded as such to garner attention in 'gun adaptor' searches. And what of those searching for actual 'gun adaptor problems'...they should have to watch your video only to find out that its NOT actually about any issues with the adaptors, but rather with YOUR firearm and YOUR decisions? Attention monger much? Let the video garner its own attn, on its own merits. A nice video about 'used guns' and 'ammo' problems that does have some lessons in it. Don't 'suck' in people that are looking for a particular video on a topic that this video DOESN'T actual cover (that would be...issues with the gun adaptors).

[@rocknraptor3195]

@MrRocque, you're right, that's why I watched & I own some....don't be mad bro bc people rape you in the comments..that's what most of these people do & most think they are some kind of genius & know way more than anyone, they're delusional.. thanks for the video I understand what you were doing!👍

[@rudygeorgiamulesandcountry1594]

0.A.F ... 0perator At Fault !

[@LikeUntoBuddha]

It takes guts and extra money to post a video showing others what might happen if you do not follow directions with firearms. Next you should suction all the gas from your car and then fill it with Diesel fuel. That will show us why you should not use the wrong fuel in your car. Keep up the good work!

[@SpareTimeProjects]

+LikeUnto Buddha Thank you for seeing what I was trying to accomplish here and not just tell me what an idiot I am. Unfortunately I don't have that much money, but I can TELL you what will happen when you put diesel into your gas engine and why! haha

[@phil7490]

It punctured your primer. This lead to the pressure of the gun powder burning to come back into your receiver, as well as propel the bullet down the barrel. Shotguns generally will have more firing pin protrusion than other guns. This will be a common problem in all calibers you attempt to shoot through this gun. .22 LR will not have enough pressure to damage your chamber at all. You're still safe to keep using that .22LR chamber insert in that gun. I wouldn't shoot 3" slugs out of a gun like that, though... Also, you said they were .357 magnum reloads? That's a .38 adapter. I didn't know Mossberg receivers were aluminum - but it makes me glad I got an 870 instead.

[@SpareTimeProjects]

Yeah I figured shotgun firing pins penetrate more. And yeah, .357 mag and .38 special are the same diameter just different cartridge length, so you can do it. I don't think the aluminum receivers make Mossberg any less reliable myself, but there are little things I like and don't like about the 500 and the 870. For instance I prefer the trigger safety of the 870 over the tang safety of the 500, but I like the cycle lever and lower price of the 500.

[@DANLAROCA-dx9gk]

These adapters are only for single double or Chiappa's triple barrel 12 gauge shotguns. Not a total loss, just invest in a single or double for $150. Good video.

[@SpareTimeProjects]

Yeah I got a single shot, just wanted to see what would happen so everyone that saw this would know. Thanks for the compliment though.

[@SpareTimeProjects]

I only tried this because I had no single shot gun at the time, so I posted this video to help anyone who might be considering trying the same thing.

[@ledenhimeganidleshitz144]

I had a Mosberg. POS! It was at my Dad's place when he died and I lost track of it. No loss. I suspect you have a shotgun problem not an adapter problem. The adapter is a massive hunk of high grade steel. There is likely a reason why there is a difference in the two springs. You might enquire with the factory about upgrades and-or recalls on the gun in general and specifically the spring. I suggest you sell the Mosberg put some more money with it and get an 870. I never regretted spending the money. The other worthy gun would be any American single barrel, I have a New England but all the American guns are good. Walmart sells a single made in Turkey I think. Fair quality from what I can tell. I was stationd there in the Air Force and saw a few, handled one, didn't shoot it. It seemed OK. Looked like a copy of an Amercan patten but can't attest to implementation metals etc. I like my little N.E. single. My go to gun for pest control and any sort of general knocking around. It was a gift from a friend so worth every penny he paid for it! Seriously they run about $100 and worth it! .357 operates on a much higher pressure than .38Spl. The same is true of .44 and .44 Mag. Probably other cartridges as well. In a pump I'd stick to lower power pistol cartridges which don't much exceed the pressure of .38Spl. Wiki and many other sources list pressures. Also I have a NEF single 12g. I'd use it for an adaptor but I'd feed my Rem. 870 12g and in a pinch just low pressure pistol calibers in Shortlanes. Hope that helps

[@springer-qb4dv]

Thanks for nice review and exploded view of mossberg. Well I am going to use adaptors in my maverick 88. I am not interested in single shot shotgun as those are too limiting. There are other people who put up videos of using mossberg 500 with adaptors and they didn't report any issue. I guess that's because they didn't use high pressure cartridge like 357 magnum. But overall mechanically pump shotgun should be strong enough fire any pistol caliber rounds... with exception of firing pin which is designed for 15K-20K psi max. So if there is too high pressure in firing chamber (44K PSI with 357 magnum), then it may eject backwards as happened in your mossberg. So if I stick with lower powered pistol rounds like 22lr, 45acp and 9mm and I think adaptor should work fine in my maverick 88.

[@rigthguard420]

Well it looks to me like the bolt u have is the older rocker type bolt were the firing pin freely moves back and fourth and someone put a spring in there causing that malfunction not the adapters also those marks are normal from racking the slide were u able to put the parts you ordered in the bolt?

[@Warlock359]

It might be a head space issue, or it might be the fact that the bolt unlocks when the gun is fired allowing for more movement in the receiver.

[@SpareTimeProjects]

Good point! Another reason to not use a pump haha

[@Warlock359]

sparetimeprojects6 Exactly, they were specifically made for break open shotguns. Use in other shotguns at your own risk.

[@toddy2519]

+Warlock359 The bolt on Mossberg shotguns do not unlock until the forearm/slide is moving back.

[@Warlock359]

I sorry but you are wrong the action lock keeps the bolt lock engaged. When the trigger is pulled the hammer strikes the action lock which disengages the action lock which unlocks the bolt. The forearm slide has nothing to do with it. If it did you would be able to unlock the bolt just by sliding back the forearm slide when ever you wanted to but you can't when the shotgun is cocked. You have to push the little button to disengage the action lock to empty the gun without firing it. All the forearm slide does is move the bolt back once it's unlocked to remove the spent shell and reload a new shell.

[@toddy2519]

+Warlock359 "All the forearm slide does is move the bolt back once it's unlocked to remove the spent shell and reload a new shell." The bolt lock moves down when you begin sliding the forearm to the rear...and when I say bolt lock I'm referring to the locking lug under spring tension that moves up into it's mating recess at the back of the barrel. What you are referring to is the action lock contained in the trigger group/frame. I've taken gunsmithing courses on the 500 and have built a number of them from just parts, so I'm aware of how they operate.

[@sareynoldssr]

Ok, just a few thoughts here. I noticed you said 357 mag ammo and the adapter is a 38 special. Now you can shoot 38s in a 357 but you can NOT shoot 357s in a 38. The 357s are longer and wont fit in the cylinder of a 38 but the adapter may have let you and the reloads may have been shorter. But that might be why the firing pin was pushing the primer in so far. Im glad you are ok tho. This could have been very bad.

[@SpareTimeProjects]

No, that shouldn't have been the problem. The length of the round in the adapter doesn't matter, as it is the same bore through the length of the adapter. There is no cylinder to barrel gap like a revolver, you simply place a round in like you would place a shell in a break action shotgun.

[@selkiemaine]

sparetimeprojects6 Actually, there's something else involved. The .357 runs at higher pressure than the .38, so there may be an issue unrelated to the physical size of the adapter. Given that they clearly had the room in the adapter to fit a .357, why wouldn't they mark it that way unless there was a reason not to?

[@rbarbour64]

I will get more 12 ga singleshots guns if shtf. less moving parts to go bad. plus they can be used as a muzzle loader.

[@rocknraptor3195]

👍

[@joedoss8093]

Thats why you dont use a pump or semi automatic action use a aingle or double barrel

[@Str8Bidness]

As noted in some of these other comments, your whole problem was the wing nut behind the but stock.

[@johnharrington6122]

In the question section they say to only use them in brake open shotguns ! I’m planning on getting an 8” adapter in .45 Colt for my Browning Citori 12 ga. and I asked if they had 2 3/4 “adapter for my Rem. 1100 semi- auto , they said they’re too heavy to cycle , only for break action! John

[@ziggyrockdust]

Funky old pump action and funky old reloads. And you used non-recommended .357 in a 38 special chamber. The reason that single shot (Or double barrels since both are break downs) shotguns are recommended is because the round is locked against the solid body of the receiver and not a temporarily locked bolt. You should have used your Beretta. Even hot reloads would have done fine in these super thick chambers. Shoot junk through junk and you'll junk your junk...

[@Goodnightandgoodluck-c7m]

You know that the manufacturer stated that its meant for a single shot shotgun right? It's like driving your car into a lake and expect it to float like a boat

[@tonywinters7189]

"If I explained something wrong Don't hound me about it" Do you use a hammer to drive a screw into a piece of wood? The company stated that these adapters were meant for Single Shot Shotguns, maybe an over-under or a double barrel. You are lucky that you still have a hand to use to post this video.

[@lennyemerson2520]

I understand that it is not recommended to use adapters in anything but single shot break action or double barrel shot guns. Dork.

[@edgotbait]

Alway follow the directions posted by the manufacturer It's for your safety you sir are why there are safety warnings

[@rotadyma]

Well now we know why the mossberg was $100. I would never try to cycle a chunk of metal through my pump shotgun.

[@woodturningjohn]

Gunadapters.com says now not to even use 357 mag. in their adapters, when they first came out with them it was okay but not anymore. Pressures issues with other shotguns may have been a problem ??? but when I got mine they said don't do it. Really loving them, I have seven different ones for my H&R and all are great.

[@hectorlebron3109]

Awesome thanks for the info

[@larryparson9609]

Thanks for the info

[@ahazureus]

There are numerous reasons, why, they recommend a "Crack-barrel" single shot, shotgun. #1) It is for a Bush-gun, few moving parts, extractor especially.#2) It's supposed to be light, compact, easy to use, easy to take apart. #3) Big one, you are never supposed to just drop a shell into an auto or pump chamber, the loading mechanism in these types of guns are designed to feed from the magazine, a single barrel "extractor" mechanism, is designed to just drop a shell into the chamber.

[@looseballs1966]

now the reason these adapters are safe to use in a single shot shotgun,is because they (the adapters) are made of the same stuff as rifle barrels which is a harder/stronger steel than shotguns (which tend to be not to far above milder type steel),and instead of an action that is not meant to withstand that much pressure in the form of whats called bolt thrust, on the bolt of the action,single shots have that solid chunk steel instead, which is a harder/stronger steel than the barrel.

[@danielgirouard2690]

100$ gun bro I've put at least 2000 rounds through my 500 maybe the guy you bought it from did some jank ass work inside of it

[@rudygeorgiamulesandcountry1594]

Egg-Zactly ... !

[@TheJhaley12]

what is the rod for that comes with the adapters? I'm guessing to push empty shell casings out on the smaller calibers?

[@SpareTimeProjects]

You are correct

[@nicholastrueblood8683]

I'm surprised it didnt tear up the insert. The .38 special ones are for .38 special only. not .357 Magnum. They actually warn you about it on their site.

[@CaliPatriot88]

How To Not Understand What You're Buying 101

[@missouripatriot6926]

So you shoot old mystery reloads in a shotgun adapter meant for a single shot in a pump some common sence could have prevented this

[@dariandunn2811]

Curiosity, did you shoot the rest of the 357mag ammo? I am better adapter is fine in Moss500, but the ammo reloads are the issue.

[@wvcruffler123]

Long explanation for “I did a dumb thing”.

[@davidstegman8147]

No it's the reloads and the fact those adapters should only be used in single shot guns or double barreled shot-guns where they break open. Firing extra hot hand loads are a bad idea any way even if its the right caliber of ammo if you use way too hot of ammo it will blow your gun up.

[@brandonereed3454]

Do they sell adapters for a 410 if heard that you can just switch the barrels though

[@mauser2134]

that depends on the gun. and no pumps or semis I know of can do that

[@alanslusher3384]

Yes I bought one in 32sw long

[@SpareTimeProjects]

Well, sir, the manufacturer of the gun adapters had no directions posted about using them in a pump action shotgun. Therefore, it was not posted. Therefore, I decided to try it, and then show anyone that views this video that one should not attempt it. If their directions specifically said "do not use in a pump action," I would have never tried it. Also, safety warnings come from testing and feedback, so maybe the manufacturer will see this video and modify their user agreement.

[@imSkyzWRLD]

On eBay it dont have a buyit button what do i do? I been tryna buy a 22 adapter for 12 gague for a few days now

[@justinthomas226]

You used a 357 magnum cartridge in a 38 special ONLY adapter... Your lucky you didn't hurt yourself. Also they are made for single and double barrels. You could've spent 100 bucks and found one. Sounds like you aren't following directions.

[@SpareTimeProjects]

That was very informative, thank you! Hopefully everyone that watches this will read your comments. After I replaced my firing pin spring, I have put well over 100 rounds through the gun with no problems, so I don't think it hurt anything else.

[@looseballs1966]

No problem man, just glad to see you and the gun didn't get fubar'd lol, I am considering these adapters because I own a few of the H&R single shots in various gauges, but I am looking at the ones made by MCA sports in Alaska,the ones they make are up to 18inches long, and in a ton of different calibers, they should prove to be very accurate, and they are also being built by an outfit called gear-up and they look really good (I feel shortlane's are crappy built) anyhow take care.

[@lennyemerson2520]

so the moral of story is use the inert as recommended by the maker

[@micjam1986]

I have 4 of their adapters.. never had a problem

[@Max-ye9xg]

You do not put these in a pump shotgun or an auto loader therefore double barrel over under or preferably side by side with a double triggerDO NOT USE IN PUMP OR AUTO

[@elm11958]

Well if it says not to use them in anything but a single shot or a double barrel break action why would you use it in a pump I'd say that was your fault

[@CanoeKayakFishingAdventures]

Easy fix. Get a Remington 870!

[@Oldcoinsandstuff1]

The adapter doesn't go far enough in my chamber to allow the gun to close. This is not the first time I have had a problem with them this way.

[@Oran-35]

there adapters for pumps with a plastic outer core. Some times found at gun shows, but never use these types in a pump.

[@bradt3625]

These dont work with dual extractor pumps, like the 500

[@SpareTimeProjects]

+Brad T It "worked", I just had to be careful where I dumped it out so the adapter wouldn't go flying.

[@jasonmarquez5776]

In this case it was the Indian, not the arrow...those aren't meant for pump actions :-(

[@jasonmarquez5776]

Glad you didn't get hurt though. Could have been a lot worse!

[@flhusa1]

you should read on the adapter sites that is says break open single shot. some people just have to learn for themselves. on the bright side you just proved the adapter makers are right about using a single shot break open shotgun.

[@SpareTimeProjects]

If you would read the description before you comment, you would see that I knew the manufacturer recommends break open shotguns. However, they never stated specifically not to use any other type (at least not at the time of this video) so I wanted to perform an experiment for anyone else that might wonder if it is possible to use something else if they can't afford a new shotgun like me.

[@francescogalioto6711]

So if I would like to put a reducer in the 410 gauge semi-automatic 12 gauge would I have these problems?

[@terrycannon570]

This is exactly why I refuse to own an gun with an aluminum receiver. I bought one from a pawn shop once and when you closed the action too fast it would fire without using the trigger.

[@cuda4094]

Might want to listen to manufacture suggestions next time.lol

[@SpareTimeProjects]

All manufacturer suggestions were understood. The instructions at the time didn't say NOT to use .357. Contacted them and they basically said they can't take responsibility for anything gone wrong, so I decided to try it with a junk gun and use it as a test. Then decided to make a video for anyone wondering the same thing

[@cuda4094]

@@SpareTimeProjects correct me if I'm wrong. But the barrel said 38 Special correct? No 38 Special / 357 correct?

[@SpareTimeProjects]

@@cuda4094 Are you really trying to belittle me for making a test and informative summary to educate people? The company never stated in their instructions, website, or in personal correspondence "Do NOT use .357 in this adapter." The adapter is solid steel thicker than any handgun, shotgun, or most rifle chambers, so obviously they have no issue handling .357 loads. It's the shotgun that is the weaker link, and I wanted to educate anyone who was considering trying it.

[@cuda4094]

@@SpareTimeProjects not trying to battle you. It's just common sense. If the barrel says 38 then it's 38 not 357 / 38.

[@cuda4094]

@@SpareTimeProjects Everybody knows 357 Magnum has a higher pressure than 38 Special.

[@marcelopires8838]

Os adaptadores não foram feitos para espingardas pump, mas para as que quebram o cano...

[@666toysoldier]

As you found out, the shotgun couldn't take the pressure. People like you, who ignore the manufacturer's instructions and do stupid stuff, give responsible gun owners a bad name. Stunts like this can earn you an eye patch, lost fingers, or a Darwin Award.

[@dalewoods7308]

I have one for my mavrick 88 pump never had a problem

[@nickavaneson6406]

I have the same, what type of caliber are you using, and the adapter length.

[@zacharyharriz415]

way to go

[@johnhenthorne4463]

best used in single barrels

[@twoowls4469]

It happened because you used the product incorrectly! These were meant for single shot shotguns... NOT PUMP or SEMI-AUTO. 100% USER ERROR.

[@randallmank4752]

if you could find a 12 gauge to 410 you would technically have 2 caliber converters in 1

[@Covert_Op]

3 if you include a .45 since that and the 410 is the same size chamber basically lol

[@daviddawkins9669]

actually 3, i fire 44 mags through mine all the time.

[@yunassaxer7119]

Thank you!

[@albertreyes6539]

there is too many factors in your case to know what caused the failure , but does adapters are not recommended for pumps or autoloaders because they are heavier than regular rounds and can mess up your extractors

[@OU812NVME]

Laughing out loud anytime you use a Magnum round even the 22 magnum.357 and the 44 magnum are really the ones to watch out for the shotgun cannot handle the pressures inside there and if you use a shotgun you have to use a specialized shotgun made for those pressures and those shotguns are expensive they're not the ones you buy off the shelf for a couple hundred dollars no they're close to a thousand maybe 1500 even your plus P rounds you have to watch out for

[@SpareTimeProjects]

That could very well be what happened. I really wasn't sure what happened, so I just guessed. I just wanted to show what could happen lol.

[@ChowMien123]

You know what went wrong 💀

[@stevensimmons600]

$100 for Mossberg? Hmmm!

[@SpareTimeProjects]

There really wasn't anything wrong with the gun before this, and now its as good as new with the new spring. And I'm glad you won't try this with yours, I just hope this video keeps others from trying it!

[@1a2d1a3m97s]

My 500 got a chip taken out shooting Winchester 100 boxes for trap 12 gage and it looks the same as what your first chipped looked but didn't mess up my spring

[@SpareTimeProjects]

That's interesting. maybe the marks on the inside of the receiver are just from normal wear and tear... or from any kind of ejection problems or weird shell loads.

[@oneofmany1087]

looks like it was too heavy of shell-adapter to eject and jammed next shot!

[@gwubllu3384]

This video should be labeled GAP's from being put in the wrong gun. Guess their going to have to put warning labels on these to prevent other dolt's from repeating this.

[@SpareTimeProjects]

I did this and made a video of it to show people what can happen. When I was researching adapters, there was no information on using them in a pump and I know I wasn't the only one wondering. So I hoped doing this would help people in the future.

[@gwubllu3384]

sparetimeprojects6 It's good you posted this. Maybe you should have put GAP's DO NOT PUT IN PUMP OR SEMI'S.......... What did you expect the action to do with this particular foreign object? If you were wondering, maybe you should have pondered it for a cpl of more minutes. People need to use their heads when modifying a gun. Don't you think?

[@gwubllu3384]

G Wubllu Eff Yoo 2 weeks ago ...... 4 minutes lookin at 2 adapters in a bag. This video should have been a 30 second DON" DO THIS!!!! video also. Well maybe a minute and 30 seconds describing the damage. Did you fix the pump? Is it working good?

[@gwubllu3384]

G Wubllu It appears you may have did this as a test, and you put yourself at risk to see the results. If so then cool. And is good you shared your experience.

[@SpareTimeProjects]

G Wubllu Honestly, I expected it to just possibly ruin the ejectors with the weight of the steel adapters. And I did ponder it, for a couple WEEKS while I debated whether or not to order an adapter and try it because I didn't have a single shot gun at the time. But I took necessary precautions and I knew it would only be dangerous for the guns internals, not me. So I risked my gun to show other people what could happen, and luckily it was only a $12 fix. And I know the video is long. I tend to ramble and go too far into details, and I accidentally held the camera too long in one place while I was thinking about what I was saying. Not my strong suit but I am getting better with my later videos.

[@sonnyblack2003]

Firing pin punched a hole. Blast of powder went threw the face of ur bolt and ur spring took the hit

[@dough6759]

I think you may have hit the nail on the head! He didn't say the primer was missing or had a hole in it, but he may not have even looked or noticed.

[@randallmank4752]

i have the same shotgun, a mossberg 500. I was wondering if i should get just smaller calibers for it, like anything under 357 so i dont have the same problem as you do, would you recommend it?

[@SpareTimeProjects]

I wouldn't recommend it, but the .22 adapter worked just fine because its a rimfire caliber.

[@cedeno001]

GaugeMate Pump Shotgun Adapters work well !!

[@alanslusher3384]

Can I shoot 32H&R magnum in a 32sw long adapter?

[@rockyjjones8989]

well they did say that you should only use a single shot shot gun. You are the one that messed your own gun. Next time follow the fire arm recommended. That way you don't message the gun up.

[@joerico9461]

The reloads were probably loaded hotter than a normal 357 Round

[@Bossman5000]

be safe bro.

[@1a2d1a3m97s]

Well they would not eject and instead of taking it apart i polled it out and I think that's why

[@looseballs1966]

I hope my postings here will help everyone trully understand what went on, and the real reason to never use adapters like that in anything but a single or double barrel type break action shotgun, (the H&R's and new england firearms type action is used for even rifle calibers, and that is also why they have no problems), please I invite anybody to check what I say against any gunsmith or even a gun manufacture and you will see I am correct.

[@lude3645]

But why Pa....