Gun Control & Shootings in the U.S.

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After the events in Colorado, here are the stats on gun control and mass shootings that have occurred in the the U.S.
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[@equals3forum]

I personally live in Colorado, and when i bought a gun at a gun show, you werent allowed to have your gun untill you passed the background test on the way out

[@TeddyLeppard]

People don't always act rationally, but the freedom to decide for ourselves is much more important than losing that freedom.

[@timewarp1994]

Thank you for the input. What I had hoped to convey was that we would only ban the weapons that were both high powered AND semi auto. Not all semi auto guns.

[@thardison69]

Not one word about how many lives were save by someone using a firearm in defense.

[@netwolfe]

I do not believe anyone has ever attempted to ban all guns. But I do believe there are certain types of guns that should not be allowed to be privately own.

[@netwolfe]

One of my many concerns is that a vigilante’s action could result in case against a person that committed a massacre gets thrown. Either by violating the person’s rights, or contaminating evidence, or possibly something I have been able to think of.

[@EumelaninKnight]

At least somebody around here is inform. Bless you, Person.

[@RovingTrader]

Thanks for bringing a solid argument to this debate.

[@netwolfe]

This was something my brother suggested I would like hear some feedback. He suggested having a shooting range were you could rent an assault, but the assault rifle never actually leaves the gun range. Would you be okay with such an idea? Maybe it could a compromise on the assault rifle issue.

[@frestkd]

In 1911, Turkey established gun control. Subsequently, from 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, deprived of means to defend themselves, were rounded up and killed. In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. Then, from 1929 to 1953, approximately 20 million dissidents were rounded up and killed.

[@adamox06]

Elliot is one hundred percent correct on facts 1, 3, and 4.

[@deusdamnit]

I'd like to point something out: Chicago, IL has the HIGHEST rate of homicide by firearms in the U.S. It also has the most STRICT gun control. Food for thought. As for owning Semi-Automatic rifles: They aren't deadlier, they're faster. And, only if the shooter continues to pull the trigger-they don't fire continuously. Semi-Automatic just means the gun reloads itself. But, seriously, every time I hear people say one gun is more deadly than another I think "How fatal?" "Completely, sir."

[@245Ironman]

No, they don't have 100 round drums, but shotguns shells do spray several hundred metal pellets in a general direction. Making it harder wont make it impossible.

[@CODandtheMinecraft]

Getting just a permit to buy a gun is worse then an audit.

[@TheLemonadeLord]

I can't believe I haven't thought of that yet

[@DarynRod]

The same reason car accidents happen when there are more cars around.

[@netwolfe]

Actually a lot of people thought the smoke canister was part of a premier night movie stunt. I just felt the need to say that.

[@kapsakorsten]

I would like to point out the fact that having semi automatic rifles, including semi auto variants of so called assault rifles in civilian hands is NOT the problem. Neither are 10-20 round magazines. The problem is that this weaponry is sold almost over the counter, with no background check and no real control over how the guns are handled once bought. Tragedies like this only require one lunatic with ready, uncontrolled access to firearms. If you want to drive, you get a drivers license.

[@TPRJones]

If you combine those two charts and look at the US in terms of gun deaths per gun, we are by far the safest country on earth.

[@RovingTrader]

Not to mention all the times the police fail to show up to calls about gun shots, suspicious activity, etc... And that many police depts are already cut or are being cut back. That doesn't help the situation at all.

[@mattyccanz]

elltiot i share your exact thoughts on this issue. very well put sir

[@82ndairborne100]

Yeah your right about that. Its not the gun that's un-safe, its the person that's holding it.

[@CruztyLipz]

Rather a vigilante, than a massacre.

[@oblivionsphoenix]

Smacks swype and corrects last sentence to read "limiting or eliminating our means of"

[@AdamDemas]

I'm mostly disappointed that no one shot back.

[@Mendokusai99]

You are more than welcome. One should consider every moment to be a learning experience.

[@PhiferWolf]

He said, "fact number 2, ironically, I have never met a gun owner I don't trust"

[@RovingTrader]

That didn't happen in Tucson, and there were people carrying. The simple fact is you shouldn't carry a gun without training, just as you shouldn't drive a car. That is what We the people should expect our society and citizens follow through with. It's pretty easy to point out the bad guy in a situation like this.

[@KomodoDragon913]

Yet another valid reason anyone whom in a professional capacity uses a similar weapon such as the military and law enforcement wants to be able to practice on their own time.

[@trackman07]

I would like to pose the question that if the idea of large automatic guns have no place, then how do we justify super cars? XL meals from "restaurants?" 80" televisions?

[@Joshua2019]

actually wanting to do something is not a crime.

[@HandySandy96]

because James Holmes is such a responsible citizen and he definitely needed that protection

[@04laramie]

Anyone else feel that if more responsible people were carrying firearms, maybe people would think twice before shooting up places?

[@copguy123]

Had the people in the audience been allowed to carry guns, James Holmes would have been gunned down before he got off 5 shots

[@jlamarca4]

I am a law abiding citizen and the only license I need is the second amendment. I have used a firearm to protect myself in no less than three occasions without firing a shot. The police are there to catch the bad guy AFTER they have committed the murder. My guns are there to make sure the my family is safe. The important thing to remember is that far more people are killed in auto accidents than by guns...if this really is an argument about safety then we need to ban automobiles.

[@GR33NGIANTZ]

If a person is willing to commit a crime by shooting, they'd be more than willing to commit the crime of carrying a gun. Don't take guns away from good people.

[@RovingTrader]

I happen to be a three time veteran, and a former paratrooper. No one in my house would go near a gun without proper training. Just as they would drive a car without it. I've more than exercised sound judgement in the use of firearms. So take your ineptitude and stereotyping somewhere else.

[@HarryBillyBobGeorge]

"The problem with gun regulations is that criminals won't follow them. So let's not have any at all." how does this make sense?

[@SharpKris]

"Buying ammunition" sector "Prior to 2007 members of the Swiss Militia were supplied with 50 rounds of ammunition for their military weapon in a sealed ammo box that was regularly audited by the government. This was so that, in the case of an emergency, the militia could respond quickly. However, since 2007 this practice has been discontinued" which means that getting a working gun & ammo is as hard as in most other places. but overall i do think that the main reason for no crime is education

[@KazSadeghi]

well elliot, if you met someone who owned a gun that you didn't trust, then you wouldn't be talking to us....

[@rea12326]

"If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will own guns."

[@PippinPotter11]

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[@abrielsmitherson9204]

Guns aren't evil, people are evil.

[@Shubliiminal]

Those who wish to commit crime with guns will not hesitate to commit crime in order to own such weapons. Gun control would most likely take guns away from law abiding citizens instead of the law breaking citizens.

[@Daracus]

I live in Chicago and I can say gun control is more or less ineffective. The sad truth is illegal firearms can be easily obtained through black markets. Do I like guns? Idunno. Would I rather responsible citizens be allowed to own firearms as oppose to just having a society where only criminals can easily access them? Yes. Look if a repeat offender wants to get a gun they'll do it. If they have not exercised responsible behavior before what makes any law maker think they'll follow gun laws?

[@netwolfe]

As a gun owner, do you believe there are some guns that people should not be allowed to own? For whatever reason you may have.

[@Sharklady98]

In the Aurora shootig, one of the people shot was a 6-year-old- girl. And there were these 2 guys who protected their girlfriends and died. :(((

[@CrimsonTemplar2]

A generation of people who weren't taught right and wrong by their parents is my first thought.

[@Schamdu]

I think a big problem is how engrained guns are in the American culture. The fact that most people have a gun for self-protection is kind of an astounding lack of trust in each other. In Canada (where gun control is more severe), the only people I know with guns use them for hunting. No one I know even considers having a gun or even keeping a knife close by for protection. In fact, many people leave their doors unlocked at night. I think it's a bit of a culture/trust thing.

[@netwolfe]

Actually assault rifle, and rifle are two different types of guns. If you search online you’ll find they both have two different definitions.

[@KiddoAtTheDisco]

What the freak is banning guns going to do? Does that murderer look like he's gonna follow the law? No? Well, I WONDER WHY!

[@patienceaurelious4455]

I agree with Joe.That's is why violence is so high. If you live in the US and you think you need 100 bullets and an AK47 semi auto to express yourself, then you should get counseling and learn to use your words.

[@bajojohn]

Where do you dig up these pictures?

[@zoddodd]

Guy at 59 sec in the back looks superimposed.

[@245Ironman]

How does it help to outlaw one type of gun when any and all of them can do considerable damage?

[@TheSniperpenguin]

My neighbor has a gun but he has three kids and a wife. he is also a really good guy.

[@netwolfe]

I cannot speak for everyone in my country but I am a U.S American and I prefer that criminals are caught alive. I do understand that sometimes law enforcement may have to action to protect others that would prevent the live capture of suspect, but in general I do prefer an outcome where the suspect is taken alive.

[@thinkhendo]

Unless your in a country like Australia where it is actually quite hard to get guns, even on the black market. What guns do exist are relatively expensive and are typically not used in crimes because of their traceability.

[@HeavenLane]

If you're planning on doing something illegal with a gun, I highly freaking doubt you give a shit whether or not your gun is legal. The fact is by the time the police got to the Aurora shooting 70 people were already injured and/or dead. If guns had been legal in Colorado a bystander could have turned that number from 70 to 1.

[@gdhs112]

If people are really serious about protecting their home then they should purchase a security system and a taser, not a lethal weapon.

[@kittlykat]

What an invigorating argument. I bow down to your knowledge, statistics, facts, and sources. =] Good job with the convincing!

[@FusionBlastoise1]

I'm sorry, but you're facts are wrong. A simple google search will reveal this. I am so grateful for the strict gun laws we have in Australia.

[@lsynno]

So was I ..... *whistles and walks away*

[@Naeuuin]

guns that are used to cause massive amount of destruction shouldn't be legal. you can defend yourself with a small gun.

[@TheReagentX]

Sounds like we need more police, not more laws.

[@iansguitars8349]

To answer his why would you have a semiauto gun question, many people have them for recreational target shooting at ranges.

[@stevejoeardson100]

There is a link between socio-economic disparity and violent crime. The US has some of the worst disparity in the world... Guns don't cause crime, socio economic conditions do.

[@izzyjubinville]

I'm not an American, but what makes the most sense to me would be allowed civilians to keep smaller handguns, and hunting guns if they have a licence, but not these semi-automatic super death machines. The right to bear arms was created when guns were a lot *less* lethal(ish). A musket doesn't really compare to an assault rifle. JUST MY HUMBLE THOUGHTZ.

[@JarodBenowitz]

The entire rationale for the 2nd Amendment wasn't personal protection from other citizens it was protection against a tyrannical government. Outlawing any gun except pistols and rifles would blatantly be unconstitutional.

[@InaraReynolds]

Well done guys, gun control is a hard subject to talk about. I think this was informative with out pushing people one way or another, perfectly moderate.

[@bannapwns]

When did i say i had power over anything? I was simply stating my opinion.

[@netwolfe]

I actually don’t know. Can anyone else answer this question? I do believe it is a valued question.

[@flyingdutchman916]

You an me, makibg criminals more powerful. And making us not be able to defend ourselves.

[@netwolfe]

I think you confused a comment posted by someone else as one of mine. I never made any attempts at saying an assault rifle could not be useful in revolution scenario. For the record I still personally believe that they’ll never be a need for such a revolution. But like I said that is personal belief. About everything else you said about my comments, you are to free to have your own opinion and I respect that.

[@FuckyMcShineyToaster]

One guy with a gun in that theater could have stopped james holmes. Banning guns would only stop everyday people from getting guns that they would use to protect themselves. Bad guys can still get guns, and now people are less likely to fight back and protect themselves.

[@netwolfe]

Sorry, I made small typo in my comment. That second sentence is suppose to read “I felt the need for an elaboration…” not an elaborate. I apologize if my typo caused any confusion.

[@yellowbusguy]

People hunt with AK47's and Ar15 rifles all the time, Please don't confuse these civilian versions with the automatic military versions. Civilians do need a weapon to defend themselves and their country if needed. I for one will not surrender my right to provide for my own security for my family and friends. You cannot depend on only the police, they come and clean up after the deed is done and cannot protect you from threats. I hope I NEVER need to use a gun,but I'm prepared in case.

[@rbrick3685]

Fun fact, "Huge, powerful, Semi-automatic guns" have the least homicide rate of any fire arm. In fact, the least of any firearm in any crime. These aren't for hunting, they are the last line of defense or the first. Think about it like this; Should someone invade, Red Dawn style, people won't be for gun control much longer. Also bare in mind the highest rate in firearm crimes is because we have so many, concentration of something in one area tends to make it more widely used.

[@TurkiTots]

they already have that for larger weapons that would be too expensive to own

[@JMM_1991]

Holmes had kevlar on all parts of his body. How would more guns in the theatre have saved more lives?

[@Aldowyn]

This was a relatively unbiased video, which is occasionally a problem for sourcefed...

[@jayboomus]

AK sure as hell does not mean automatic rifle. It means Avtomat Kalashnikova, which is an assault rifle designed by Mikhail Kalashnikov.

[@zte11794591]

Your name is a gun brand.

[@netwolfe]

I’ve been talking about this with my mom, and suggesting something I wanted to share. By law banks have to report transaction over a certain dollar amount to law enforcement. Law enforcement double checks to make sure the money is not connected to anything illegal. My mom was thinking that maybe they should do the same with guns. Example: If I were to buy 20 guns in one sitting, then law enforcement be informed and they make sure not planning to do something illegal with them. What do you think?

[@marty1160]

I think that these days of internet and news channels 24/7 we just here more about these type of mass shootings they may have increased over the years but we dwell on them over and over. In the past these type of incidents made the front page of a small hometown paper and maybe a local news show. realistically not much change just more coverage of an incident. All in all it is still disturbing. Peace out and Give a stranger a hug and say something nice to them. Out my friends :D

[@krisandsam]

I would never personally own a gun but I don't give a shit if other people do.

[@RovingTrader]

While I don't fully agree with his technique, did anyone watch the video of 71 year old, Samuel Williams, protecting fellow innocent people in an Internet cafe not more than a week before this? Why hasn't that been brought up?

[@Scoinsoffaterocks]

Tell me more!

[@TheKHUE]

I thought there's already a license required

[@xXNeo11Xx]

If someone could have legally carried a consoled handgun that theater and they were in the overwhelming majority of safe and responsible gun owners than maybe this wouldn't be such a tragedy

[@adhdlemon]

I fail to see why civilians even need guns.

[@alidan]

probably the number 1 thing is that police dont act unless a crime is comited, they could prevent much crime by being proactive.

[@d3l1a4973]

You ever hear the expression "Lesser of two evils..." or no

[@Saberhartpictues]

its the person using the gun that is doing the damage.

[@frestkd]

In 1964 Guatemala locked in gun control. From 1964 to 1981 over 100,000 Mayan Indians were rounded up and killed as a result of their inability to defend themselves.

[@CruztyLipz]

technically, a lynch mob is more of a riot than an individual vigilant, but I can also see your stand point... also a vigilante, could help prevent these kinds of things from occurring.

[@Gundam08thMSteam]

Where? what specific source are you using? you dont need to argue about hunting I already conceded the point so what is it exactly you expect the government to do when you rebel with your guns?

[@netwolfe]

Why? You said watching this makes you want to buy guns, but there is nothing in this video that I think would give a person a reason to buy guns. No political reason, no advertisement reason, no defensive reason, no hunting/sportsman reason. As far as I can tell this video should zero impact on a person’s decision to buy or not buy gun. So why are you saying this video makes you want to buy guns?

[@CruztyLipz]

I can understand your point of view, but if the government put money into one man... they could make a life saver.

[@ColdHeartTV]

3:00 THANK YOU Elliot for saying "Civilly".. (KZbin comment control) is much more critical than gun control -__-