Gun Gripes Episode 73: What is a Sniper Rifle?

[@carlbilodeau9163]

According to Wikipedia: The verb "to snipe" originated in the 1770s among soldiers in British India where a hunter skilled enough to kill the elusive snipe (a type of bird) was dubbed a "sniper". The term sniper was first recorded in 1824 in the sense of the word "sharpshooter".

[@royaldafuq464]

Sniper is a person, Rifle is a gun, a Sniper rifle is just a rifle with a skilled person shooting it

[@ratpudding]

Unless it’s an idiot

[@ghostwriter1415]

Carlos Hathcock is a textbook example, supporting your statement: Carlos, and company dragged a giant M2 atop a hill. Mr. Carlos simply added a sports scope, and turned the monster machine gun, into a precision instrument. Also, with a M2 you get a 45" barrel which gives 25% - 35% more energy than a Barrett.

[@azuralmusic]

But also there are guns specifically designed to be sniper rifles, just as there are guns designed for other niche roles

[@Klumster]

@@azuralmusic wrong. A sniper is an individual who's mastered the art of sniping. There are rifles designed to have better precision to assist a Sniper (the individual) in their tasks. There's no such thing as a sniper rifle. There's a "sniper's rifle" which means the weapon being utilized by a sniper.

[@MegaChubbyboy]

I guess we're not going to see Barry's video called "Assassin's Choice" since he passed away. Could you do this video anyway in Barry's memory?

[@rayd.5929]

YESSS! THAT WOULD BE AWESOME! we miss you barry.

[@PhantomTD]

Agreed!

[@tacomas9602]

I hope Barry is shooting guns now :)

[@FuzzyLikesLegos]

Vincent Sluga He's teaching trigger control to Jesus.

[@rayd.5929]

YASSSSSSS!

[@Rhinus]

I was always under the impression that a sniper rifle was any rifle the sniper used. I was always under the impression that a sniper was a person, not a weapon.

[@lickdacat2]

+Enzo Puppyboy I guess you need to inform Remington, those bastards are selling sniper rifles....

[@Rhinus]

Well from what I've seen it's a grueling and arduous journey training to become a sniper in the military. Only the best of the best get the title sniper. The way these people talk about them apparently anybody could be a sniper. BS

[@MrAngryCanadian]

Enzo Puppyboy the person is the weapon, the firearm is only the tool used. But you cannot tell that to the idiots that run justice systems or work for ever expanding governments.

[@julesbjeweled7891]

Enzo Puppyboy. Lmao! My .22 magnum long rifle is a sniper rifle because it has a scope. That's ridiculous!

[@Brekkenrick]

Simo Häyhä did not use a scope in mosin nagant but he was a sniper. As in the video presented stealth is the key factor.

[@cnna12392]

oh how i miss these days. RIP Barry.

[@pepeman3099]

me too

[@deplorableamerican9451]

Sadly, Yes.

[@flame06171984]

+Bad Gift damn he seem like a cool dude

[@raghuramsrinivasan5874]

I betcha he is around a lot of deer , targets , ammo and a heck of a lot of guns

[@Steveo_nz]

New to this channel, what happened to Barry? I like the gun gripes with him in them more. I'm from New Zealand and I'd love to go to the States and hang out with an old guy like that and shoot some guns

[@F53802]

I am a former army sniper. What these two are confusing is what a "sniper rifle" is used for as opposed to who uses it.. According to their argument only a "sniper" uses a sniper rifle. Now if my I use "a rifle" is it a sniper rifle? Again If I use a rifle (which is designated as a sniper rifle) and somebody else uses that rifle is it no longer a "sniper rifle?" The answer to both questions is "no" You do not have to be a trained sniper to be a "sniper" the term sniper originated in the Boer War with the Boers using their best shots to shoot a bird called a "Snipe" which then became dinner. As far as I am concerned a sniper rifle is any rifle that a sniper would use in combat. In other words a sniper rifle is a sniper rifle regardless of who is using it. If it's got a scope, bi-pod and consistently shoots 1/2 MOA or less out to at least 600 meters (660 yards) then it can be termed a sniper rifle. May I suggest that we stop playing semantics.

[@cincomithell]

F53802 Ah, finally someone who makes some sense.

[@katyhackerspace9596]

F53802 you are the one that is confusing use case with tool name. That same rifle when used to hunt goats in Wyoming is not called a goat rifle. The rifle is a rifle, on could argue that it is a high precision rifle, however we know that is not true. A rifle is only as accurate as the person using it.

[@willb8684]

that makes sense....snipers have used a huge variety of weapon....m2s in korea target rifles in nam and the list goes on...well said

[@drownsinkoolaid4203]

I feel a lot of folks get tied up with weapons though that aren't necessarily multi purposed by design and just kinda starstruck with their look. I mean a rifle like the CheyTec Intervention isn't the same as, say, a Remington 700 which can be used for hunting as easily as military sniping, where as an Intervention is designed for military use first and foremost. Nothing would stop you from hunting deer with it and it would be very effective just not practical. A gun like that I'd say calling a dedicated "sniper rifle" is passable, but I do agree with a lot of your perspective :D

[@WPD.razor41]

that's what I'm talking about, f53802, only a trained sniper makes it a sniper rifle. veni,vidi,vici.

[@McDoobles]

So really, there's no such thing as a "sniper rifle". It's a sniper's rifle.

[@aljosaskrabelj8412]

Yes. But in the long run. Rifle build specially for snipers is sniper rifle. So M40 A3 is sniper rifle, even if you hunt rabbits with it. Why? It was build as a sniper rifle for snipers. Btw, word sniper goes for hunters to. Snipers ware people that ware able to kill the bird caled snipe. All in all, if a rifle is build just for a task of "sniping" , then it is sniper rifle. For me at least. That doesnt mean user is a sniper.

[@CIVISHEEPDOG420]

Ughhh! Is it really that hard to understand! A sniper is the soldier, a sniper rifle is the firearm that soldier uses. If you hear someone refer to that firearm as the sniper, slap him with a vengance!

[@happyfeet0269]

too right ragemonkey i have no idea why people pick up guns and call it a ''sniper rifle'', ''sniper'' is not too do with the weapon its your roll thats why its called a ''snipers rifle'' cause a sniper is behind the rifle if you get me... but people will still argue so who care lol...

[@McDoobles]

Right? I had already known the role vs the firearm before this specific video... but I do many things where people get terminology wrong including the classic "mag vs clip". My orig. comment was a quick recap on what's what for those who chose not to watch the entire video.

[@mikepowers171]

RageMonkey very well said sir

[@TheCrushenator]

Really big missed opportunity here. Simo Häyhä, an iconic if not the quintessential badass sniper, managed to claim all 500+ of his confirmed solo kills w/o the aid of any telescopic sight. I think that fact alone strengthens the argument that a "sniper" is a craft, not a weapon platform.

[@thatguy22441]

"Sniping" is more about stealth and vigilance than it is about shooting. Every sniper I ever met would prefer to call CAS, artillery or mortars than to take a shot with a rifle. I was in mortars, so I worked very closely with snipers.

[@ghostwriter1415]

@@thatguy22441 are you familiar with the Beretta M59 battle rifle, in .308 (7.62 x 51)? It has a shorter barrel than a m14, but it's got feed rails on the top so one can feed stripper clips in to the top? It looks like a hybrid of M1 Garand, M 14, but with Italian advantage. I have a question. I'll wait to see if you respond, to post it. L/R

[@Klumster]

Yes a sniper is an individual trained in the arts of sniping. There were snipers before there were telescopic sights. You can be a sniper and utilize a rifle with iron sights. There's no such thing as a sniper rifle. There's just the sniper's rifle.

[@dustyrhodes1655]

7 years later I still come back and watch these videos.....RIP Barry 🙏

[@curtischillin4560]

My definition of sniping just involves well placed shots, usually from a great distance. So most rifles to me, are sniper rifles. I don't think 'sniper rifle' has a negative connotation. As you said, even snipers, who use sniper rifles, aren't necessarily even sniping people. A lot of them are shooting equipment and other inanimate objects.

[@BachClarinet]

"There's nothing like ringing a target at 1000 yds!" "That is most certainly true." Sounded like a Lutheran. LOL

[@WaterDamagedTextBook]

Its not a hand gun if you don't put it in your hand.

[@clarson0420]

"That's the thrill." It totally is. The feeling of reaching out and touching something with a tiny projectile at very long ranges is a very satisfying feeling. Personally, I enjoy that sort of shooting over handgun range / trap or skeet/ being one of those people who goes to the range and rents a full auto. That's fun, but one shot one target over 1000m, you feel great. First over 1000m target I hit I was ecstatic. Better than any drug I've ever done. Great video, thanks for doing so many and being intelligent about everything you talk about. Shoot in peace Barry.

[@loadedhot1034]

Simo Hayha a Finn is the deadliest sniper of all time with 500 confirmed kills and over 700 unconfirmed.He preferred not to use a scope at all because of a glint of light off of the glass could give him away to other snipers. He was known as The White Death becuse of his ability to hide in the snow for long periods of time and dispatched the enemy. I would say other than Simo the Russians had the most prolific snipers of WWll. they were the first to have special training for snipers and even used women, who turn out are very deadly with a sniper rifle.

[@GUNSHIPFLEX]

Captain Spaulding was nice behind the trigger too.. couple confirmed kills

[@loadedhot1034]

he was a slayer

[@garypiont6114]

This guy simo probably got most of his kills on frozen retreating and wounded soldiers .

[@loadedhot1034]

No doubt. He was a master of camouflage for sure and had even more patients. He would probably set up in a valley knowing the enemy had no choice to go through the valley or freeze to death.

[@garypiont6114]

don't believe every propaganda bs.

[@CountryBoy-mc1lr]

a sniper is originally one who hunts snipes

[@bigredone1030]

Knight-Sgt. Reyes Defintions arent superceded in a day. People still hunt snipes

[@Athiel0]

Thank you, someone had to say it!

[@1337penguinman]

The world's greatest sniper used a 91/30 over open sights. Keep that in mind.

[@brandanweaver7481]

exactly and he also got a kill from over 800 yds. with open sights.

[@joelmoore6643]

Im guessing your talking about Stalingrad also how many kills did he get because the German army had some very good snipers.

[@1337penguinman]

Simo Häyhä. Google him. Finnish actually.

[@joelmoore6643]

800 yards thats pretty much volley fire at that point

[@brandanweaver7481]

Its hard to find an exact number but i know it was over 200

[@Finalsuspect1468]

Barry has promised several videos over the last few years that sounded really awesome but never got released.

[@cinkidaz]

Every time I watch these two I get an itch to go buy a gun store. Thanks for the good work guys!

[@chris.pbacon1811]

1:12 eric is looking into your soul

[@wanderingwizard8251]

gun muggle reasoning: I see scope and a rifle= sniper rifle

[@rupertbaxter2274]

Ha ha... "gun muggle"

[@milkdrinker7]

the number one thing nobody here seems to realize is when "gun muggles" say sniper rifles, they are thinking "gun with scope". the association with killing other people such as that of "assault weapon" isn't there.

[@MrAngryCanadian]

Wandering Wizard lol I do not even watch or read such stuff and find the comment funny and to the point... personally I call them Scown.

[@leerosevear]

It actually was originally used to take out Light Utility Vehicles. Once a caravan is stopped a squad can then effectively ambush the enemy. There is not a true need for .50bmg A 22-250 even a .17hmr is an effective sniper rifle, It all comes down to what you have and how close you can get to your target.

[@drownsinkoolaid4203]

I have a few single shot pellet rifles... I owned several sniper rifles for years and never knew it! lol

[@mikehasel377]

The "Intent" of the individual determines what the tool is used for. A precision rifle is just a big paper punch or a hunting rifle until someone decides to use it for "sniping".

[@OlympusHeavyCavalry]

Well I was in a gun shop no less than 4 months ago & asked about a particular rifle that was mounted, chained & locked to the back wall of the shop. Now I asked about this particular rifle & he said it was a long distance rifle. He had no problem with me or himself calling it a sniper rifle. In fact he said there were people out there who hated & loathed the term sniper rifle. Each unto their own. :)

[@FlyGuy12000]

I love these guys, I hate it when the media focuses on the weapon instead of the person who is pulling the trigger. The gun isn't choosing where it is being pointed and the gun doesn't pull its' own trigger, it is all the person behind it.

[@digger120605]

I agree. It's not the rifle but the person behind it pulling the trigger. People used to call me a sniper, because I was so comfortable with my rifle and the way it shot my reloads I could consistently hit even running targets at 5 to six hundred yards and stationary targets well beyond. Believe it or not, (plenty of witnesses) It was a Remington 742 in 30.06 shooting my reloaded sabot rounds. It's the person and their skills that make a so called sniper. And it's not just a good shot that makes a "sniper" it's balls of steel and courage beyond what most people have. I respect and appreciate what the military sniper does for our country... Great show BTW.

[@philippefrater2000]

Finally a clever comment about Sniping! The gun is only a tool, the man behing gives it a Fonction... Thanks!

[@philmclamb8568]

Hey Eric, y'all should tell em sniper rifles are for Snipe hunting. Lol.

[@loadedhot1034]

thats where the original term was from. English officers while serving in India sent letters home calling the men who could kill the bird called a Snipe "snipes" becuse doing so was considered an accomplishment. because the birds fly very fast and dont set still long they are very hard to kill. so yes there is actually such thing as snipe hunting and thats where the term Sniper came from.

[@MSSmith1022]

I know that the term dates back to around 1770 or so and by the mid 1800's it was being used as a reference to a sharp shooter. One of snipe family of birds is a Sandpiper.

[@smittywerbenjaegermanjense7376]

So, you mean just because I put a 30mm scope on my .308 CQB long-range precision AR-15 SBR assault rifle, I won't suddenly shoot laser-guided cartridges?

[@timothydavis5229]

Close quarter combat long range rifle... Rethink think that one there cause it sounds like you mean you have a tricked out mid to close range ar that you want to say a whole bunch of words around to seem knowledgeable

[@smittywerbenjaegermanjense7376]

Timothy Davis I thought it was obvious enough that I was being facetious. I guess there's always one.

[@justinjohnson3032]

No but you can get some incendiary tipped rounds, that's heat seaking ammo there :)

[@smittyboy3419]

I'm really good a quick scoping in COD BO 2 should I join the navy or army? Maybe Air Force cuz I'm good BF4. :)

[@stephenhornickiii]

@@justinjohnson3032 It's so sad how some (if not, a lot) of our elected officials actually believe that's true. Along with one or two who believe magazines are consumable...

[@ghostwriter1415]

"Break the law car" LMFAO! Barry I love you, and I miss the hell out of you. I'll see you when I get there.

[@griffinscarbrough9340]

This is an awesome clarification of verbiage. Ya'll make some great videos. Also I didn't know he passed RIP I've learned a ton from you uploads.

[@Kaiserev]

I would say a sniper rifle is a rifle used by a sniper

[@Fatyaqui]

So, what in the hell is a "HIGH POWER RIFLE"?? The media throws that term around when someone gets shot with a rifle. When I hear that term, I think about the rifle used by Bobafet in Star Wars.

[@EpicXXProductions]

Pretty much any full size rifle cartridge. .308 winchester, .30-06 springfield, .270 remington, .300 winchester magnum, etc... Usually when the media says it they're referring to something that isn't even a high power rifle, usually just an intermediate cartridge like .223 remington or 7.62x39mm.

[@TylerSmith-ml2br]

Francisco Tapia big caliber

[@assaultspoon4925]

Its a scary assault gun that fires 19 fully automatic school shootings per second and votes republican every november

[@tarkin56]

Are you guys still doing the assassins choice video?

[@Semmarv]

Seconded, it's been 4 months, I want to see it.

[@ProactivePreppers]

They did state toward the end of the video that next was assassins choice

[@ar15f117]

I can appreciate the AK safety selector lever imprinted on the shirt! You guys represent the competent, well-informed and responsible gun owners all across America. Keep up the great videos!

[@morriganpenn9281]

I came here because of Apex Legends the video game and just wanted to learn more. Can't wait to watch more of your videos, y'all had so many good points and were cool to listen to.

[@markreidsma867]

I tell people that what makes a sniper rifle is the shooter.

[@bestsnowboarderuknow]

"A sniper rifle is a high-precision, long range rifle. " The encyclopedia.

[@Srv_rathore]

What is this of gun price

[@Srv_rathore]

I want to purchase

[@Michaelfirefoxx]

What I think a sniper is is a gun specially made for long range engagements.

[@mykhalable]

In that case a FN-SCAR would be one?

[@Michaelfirefoxx]

mykhalable Yes. its just able to go semi and (I think) full auto.

[@Vinstreakk13]

"Sniper"is not a gun man... Sniper is a soldier or person who specializes in using long range rifle that are known as "Sniper rifle".... There is a difference between " Sniper" and "Sniper rifle".... I hope u got my point

[@Michaelfirefoxx]

Vinayak Dubey Oh yeah, my mistake :P

[@Texasmilitarydepartmentvid9654]

FN-SCAR is a DMR

[@darkmatter3538]

Damn, I miss Barry. Still educating youngsters to this day. Rest In Peace.

[@roopdog2675]

Well put guys!! Keep em coming.... from Florida

[@GB101ish]

Why cant politicians see the world like you do.

[@alexmoore1506]

Because they want total control.

[@ivansexe1769]

Their head's are in the clouds or up someone's a*s.

[@Jkim8901]

Alex Moore Haha, this is the truth XD

[@jhk655]

I was under the impression that the term "Sniper rifle" was not a genre of weapon but described how the weapon was used. the definition of a sniper is roughly something like: A skilled marksman, usually military, who engages targets/enemy combatant from a distance and from a concealed position. You can say that snipers can have other goals other than just shooting people, but this is immaterial to the argument and does not change the definition. The one common job that every sniper has is shooting a target. He cannot be a sniper if he's just reporting on enemy positions, and his job title requires nothing more. therefore wouldn't any rifle that sniper uses to snipe, be considered a sniper rifle? Does it really matter whether the rifle was originally designed to hunt deer or people? I also agree with Sherlock Holmes's statement that "Just because you own, say a M40A3 marksman rifle, standard issue to US Marine sharpshooters, doesn't make you a sniper". Again it's back to my argument that being a sniper rifle is a matter of circumstance, not design.

[@Turgz]

That was the whole point in the video... *FACEPALM* Also, the thing about your statement ''He cannot be a sniper if he's just reporting on enemy positions'' is not true at all. that is one of their main roles as a sniper.

[@Turgz]

***** Yeah lol, i bet he would just contradict anything explained to him. ''Not a genre of weapon'' oh god, he definitely falls under the ''genre'' of ignorant COD players. lol.

[@Turgz]

***** and people like him are the reason why this video was made, but obviously it hasn't done anything.. :)

[@Turgz]

***** Exactly.

[@Turgz]

Now to wait for the immature/butthurt reply. :)

[@tekwerk]

I think you guys ended up getting "assault weapon" and "assault rifle" mixed up. "Assault rifle" is a very specific term that is actually used in the firearms community, usually defined as having the following qualities: 1. It must fire an intermediate cartridge 2. It must be select fire 3. It must have a detachable magazine So therefore belt-fed weapons in an intermediate cartridge like the M249 wouldn't be Assault Rifles, selective fire rifles in a full power rifle cartridge like the G3 or M14 wouldn't be assault rifles, and semi-automatic weapons in an intermediate cartridge like the AR-15 or Saiga wouldn't be Assault Rifles. Like anything though, the term can get muddled, so if you get a select fire rifle like the RPK or M27 that fires from a detachable magazine and uses an intermediate cartridge they could be called "assault rifles" per se, but a term like Squad Automatic Weapon would probably be more suitable. "Assault Weapon" is the invented term to define semi-automatic rifles that have qualities which are arbitrarily deemed "dangerous" or some drivel like that. The media ends up using the terms interchangeably though, so that's why there's some mixup. Speaking more to the topic of the video though, I funny that people call scoped rifles "sniper rifles", because one of the most successful snipers in history, Simo Häyhä, preferred to use his ironsights in lieu of a telescopic sight.

[@kalijasin]

Barry was a wealth of knowledge. I miss him.

[@Proximian]

I constantly search for anything related to firearms that can help educate me. I just absolutely love your videos. I found you late, but at least I found you. Now I have a lot of watching to do. Thanks for sharing the knowledge.

[@itswednesdaymydudes8631]

I miss Barry already

[@cidlesenworthy4476]

I 100 % agree with you guy but if i were to call a certain rifle a sniper rifle without a sniper behind it it would be an ai arctic warefare super mag in 338 that beautiful baby was born a sniper rifle lol

[@TheRfmodulator]

Valid point, the .338 LM cartridge was purpose built for anti-personnel, and the .408 Chey Tac for anti-material and HTI, now we have sporting rifles in those chamberings, but for no other reason than there are people who will drop the coin on such a rifle capable of reaching out and touching something, because its fun and challenging. Most private individuals who can afford the rifle and ammo in those chamberings don't have much to be pissed about that would cause them to risk their life and gun rights by using it in an unlawful way. So even the purpose built calibers are not always 'sniper' rifles. Don't analyze this too deeply and don't quote me, there are responsible gun owners in all segments of society...and that's the way it needs to be to protect our rights. God bless America.

[@AmericanWarrior1776]

Any hunting rifle can be used as a sniper rifle and any sniper rifle can be used as a hunting rifle. All that matters is how that it is used.

[@Runedragonx]

+AmericanWarrior1776 No, most designated combat sniping rifles cannot be used as hunting rifles. That is, of course, if you *want* to bring home more than half of your dead deer.

[@ItsBodin]

+Marie McKennith wrong sir. Most "sniper rifles" that we use in the military are 7.62x51 or .308 WIN. which is a .30 caliber round. The 30-06 which is a common round is a 7.62x63 so your hunting with a round thats equal diameter but with a much longer case. So no thats not the case its the round not the gun.

[@Runedragonx]

You may be correct in that regard, but we've put way too much science into killing each other. And I still think it's asinine that just about anyone can buy an anti-material rifle, and claim it's for hunting purposes.

[@ItsBodin]

***** True then again why not? .50 cals are cool.

[@Runedragonx]

Richard Einstein The second amendment doesn't say anything about Jim two doors over needing a .50 caliber anti-material rifle.

[@ronws2007]

A lot of good wisdom here from the video and from the comments. Even among snipers, as pointed out here, different rifles suit different purposes. Usually the 82A1 is for materials and vehicles disruption. Although it is also good for some long distance. I watched a vid with the guys who developed specs for the MRAD designed by Barrett for SOCOM. This particle is stock and action and 3 barrels and bolts. .308 Win, .300 Norma Mag, .338 Norma Mag. .308 for training, .300 for anti-personnel interdiction, .338 for materials and vehicles. In practice the .300 Win Mag and the .300 Norma Mag (you can also get the kit with .300 Win Mag and .338 Lapua Mag) have a great BC in variety of circumstances. You can dial your distance and then hold left or right, based on the wind. So, the sniper's assignment may determine which set up he is using. My favorite book on long range shooting was written by a guy who was in the Rangers 1/75. In combat, average range of engagement was 800 yards and less. Often less than 500 yards. So, yeah, the short game becomes really important. Which is where the semi-auto rifle rounds shine. The "battle rifle." This was echoed by the retired Navy SEAL who set up a training place in Normangee, Texas (between Dallas and Houston). In training, he could shoot thousands of yards but on assignment "in country", it was urban scenes at 800 yards and less. And from what I have seen of them talking, what is just as important as marksmanship is the sneak. Getting close to target without being detected. In fact, it is a big test to pass in sniper school. In fact, you could say that sniper is a job and job description. In the Rangers, it is an MOS. Also, in the Marines, with the Scout Sniper. As opposed to being in either a regular or other special forces unit and one guy has had training with long distance shots (500 yards and more) is called the designated marksman. Which doesn't mean he is specifically a sniper sent to take out a bad guy. Often times, he can overwatch. Set up on a good spot and providing kind of long range cover for the others. And, like these guys said, a lot of it is just recon. As a tool of the trade, these guys have expensive and rugged optics. Scope on the rifle, sometimes a rangefinder / binocular. Spotting scope. So, they can see really far and relay information. In fact, they might not take a shot and their data informs a drone strike. But I agree, it is the human, not the tool, that is important. A race car driver is what he is, regardless of the car he is driving.

[@RichardTyll]

You guys are awesome. I find myself watching your videos more than any others. Thanks !

[@Spidouz]

Calling it a "Sniper Rifle" would be like calling a knife a "stabbing knife" or a "beheading knife". The "Sniper" is not the rifle, but the person...

[@Grunklowe]

+Phil Smith i use my beheading knife to butter my toast

[@Returacan]

sniper's rifle

[@GUNSHIPFLEX]

I'm sure Eric would be proud that a Hilary commercial just played before his video.. barf ... 💩💩💩

[@xavierolvera7243]

love your guys passion on information about firearms. always badass and always very informative

[@michaelm5153]

Great subject for a vid guys! Just started watching already love what I'm hearing out of Barry so far.👌

[@psstoff995]

So why does the military call the M24, M21, M2010 "sniper weapon systems" when they add on bipods, optics, silencers, special stocks, chassis? Because they were designed to kill people by a trained marksman. You say that guns are just guns without any characteristics or labels of their own and I would disagree. In fact you proved my point for me. By calling a Savage 10 a 'hunting' rifle, or any rifle a 'hunting' rifle, you are using the word 'hunting' with a pro-gun spin to label the rifle as if it was designed only for sport use. When you mentioned the Police rifle- the term coming from the manufacture no doubt, obviously Police are going to use it to shoot at someone if they have to. A .50 BMG anti-material rifle, as you've said, that's designed to shoot material objects. Some weapons are designed for sniper use. Plain and simple. I believe it is fair if you are going to call things designed for hunting or designed for engine blocks and radar dishes, you also call a rifle designed for a trained marksmen to kill a person a sniper rifle. You can hunt with a .50 BMG if you felt the need, maybe not legally. You can hunt with a Police rifle if you don't plan on lugging it around as you said, you can obviously hunt with a Savage 10. Just like you can be a 'sniper' with any of those weapons as well. But some guns are designed and purpose built to kill people. So if you're not going to call a tactical Police rifle a sniper rifle, don't call a Savage 10 a hunting rifle. I understand what you're saying, I'm a pro-gunner NRA card holding member of society. I own a Remington 700 with a 5R Milspec barrel a Leupold optic and a bipod like an M24. Now do I plan on hunting with it, sure. But if North Korea invades and parks themselves in my backyard, I could easily attempt to take some of them out too, despite my lack of official sniper training. I'm sure if I got lucky and took one or two of them out from concealment they wouldn't hesitate to call me a sniper. Really I just got it because I want to hit steel at 1000 yards some day as you've said. But I don't call it a Remington 700 Hunting Sniper Steel Rifle. Really I'd be more apt to call it a sniper weapon system as it's modeled after the M24, has a hard case with a cleaning kit, mil-dot book, dope book, and the list goes on. But I have no intention of shooting people with it.

[@visageliquifier3636]

Yeah - I agree there. Some of their gripes are a little less about guns and more about politics and the way they view guns. I wish they would separate it all out. I wouldn't call someone a sniper if they hid in a dark alley and shot someone with a snub-nosed .38 as they walked past. Based on Eric's definition of someone shooting from concealment, that would fit.

[@lawfreefly]

Well said. "You can't have a sniper rifle without a sniper behind it." A little off-base. Some of the bull-pup weapons shown would not be considered as a sniper rifle, but a Steyer SSG in .270 Winchester or 30.06 with a false rear trigger that sets a hair pull for the front that requires so little pressure, you simply need to think 'pull" and it fires, would be used by someone as a sniper rifle, but not a hunting rifle or even a Sportsman Gun, like so many dealers like to call Aks and Ars.

[@deejay1534]

Its because those weapons have been HEAVILY MODIFIED to perform exclusively for the role of the sniper, so they have significantly increased accuracy, reliability, custom ergonomics for the shooter, etc. The scope and other accessories are also usually high precision, not just standard issue gear.

[@deejay1534]

For instance, a standard Remington 700 that i can buy at a gun store or gander mountain is significantly different from an M24 SWS, which is based off of a 700. The difference is that the SWS is more reliable and can shoot sub MOA, while the regular 700 shoots maybe 1-2 MOA, sub in the hands of a well trained shooter.

[@deejay1534]

I. All realness though, just join the military, then you'll realize those significant differences in the world of firearms. Obviously the guys who made COD or Battlefield, or those bandwagon media reporters don't know crap, because they've never used one or handled one. If not, just talk to guys from the military. Its those who are uneducated who make a bad name for firearms community in the long run.

[@naser7611]

I wish to live in US not in the UK :(

[@MatteV2]

An Assault Rifle is a select fire weapon... I'd think that people working at a gun store would know this...

[@glenwood89420]

They are using the term assault rifle in the meaning that the media uses it in. I'm pretty sure he even says that the media uses the term to "demonize" the firearms...

[@obeastness]

select fire on a rifle doesn't make a rifle an assault rifle, it just makes it more fun to shoot, a rifle only qualifies as an assault rifle if it has these three qualities, 1 selective fire, 2. fires an intermediate cartridge 3. has a detachable magazine. I'd also like to note that assault rifle is just a category of rifle, these rifles are designed with specific military applications in mind, Assault weapons which is a term people confuse with assault rifles, is a separate thing, I think the name assault weapons was picked because it would be deliberately confusing.

[@poseclop]

obeastness From what I know they created the STG to mix a sub machinegun with a rifle, this way, german soldiers could shoot accurately at longe range and switch to auto when getting close to the ennemy. They started to equip assault troops (Sturmtruppen), hence the name assault rifle. Today, pretty much all troops are equiped for assault so the name doesn't really make cense anymore but the idea is still here. You switch fire mode as you get closer to the ennemy.

[@MatteV2]

obeastness Correct. They still try to claim that the term "assault rifle" is unaplicable to any type of rifle, which is wrong. And it is the term Assault Rifle they use, and not Assault Weapon, which makes me really annoyed, because this video, at that point, becomes little less than poor pro-gun propaganda, used to sway the less intelligent to their side of the argument.

[@maxfirepower]

MatteV2 Well thank you Field Marshal, for the clarification. Do you attack as vigorously the MSM who hijacked the terms for their propaganda value, or do you just come here to talk down to "the less intelligent"? Just what have you contributed other than your AIRSOFT video? Pfft.

[@stupidasso77]

I have personally seen a Barrett chambered in the infamous .50 BMG that was assigned to a platoon, not a soldier. The purpose of this rifle was for clearing IED's, disabling vehicles, and various other anti-material applications. It was not called a sniper rifle, it was not called the designated marksman rifle. It was referred to as the M82. The snipers in our platoon used the M98b and M24 rifles. YOU HAVE TO SNIPE WITH IT FOR IT TO BE A SNIPER RIFLE. Precision Rifle is safe to say.

[@jasonn4397]

I've always hated the term, and was very surprised to see another channel start a series even surrounding the "sniper rifle." Thanks for posting guys.

[@Chivs77]

Let's be honest here , certain firearms are designed for certain applications , if a firearm has been designed for automatic fire accuracy and mobility ....it has only one use taking down a human being in a situation that requires the above ie an AR which makes it an assault rifle, if it's designed to be highly accurate at insanely long distances whilst prone ....again one purpose and it isn't target shooting or game hunting , it's tactical targets be it human or mechanical.....ie a "sniper" rifle ....guns are designed for one purpose, to kill a human yes there are variations but it's invention was to kill humans so stop trying to say otherwise

[@Turgz]

That comment is at the height of ignorance. Please educate yourself, learn the message of the video and the point it is trying to make. People like you are the reason why this video was made, so you can be educated on said topic. Obviously that hasn't worked..

[@Chivs77]

Callum Turner how is this ignorance , if anything your own answer shows the height of ignorance , guns were designed to replace bows and spears for killing , modern day guns such as the above mentioned weapons aren't designed for sport shooting , their sole design is to kill

[@Sliceforlife]

Paul chivers actually weapons were made to hunt food....but who am i right. That would be stupid for people to do that now a day.

[@Turgz]

Paul chivers​​​ Ignorance yeah? you don't even know what i was talking about.. Please try to understand what my comment said.

[@DuinbergenGames]

Callum Turner At least Paul is supporting his statements with arguments. While your only argument is him being ignorant.

[@jtowensr]

I totally agree with you, Any rifle is only a rifle unless you have a person trained behind it. I was a Sniper in the 82nd Airborne Div. 2504 PIR Recon Plt. A true sniper is a person trained to take any weapon they can use to eliminate the target. Believe it or not, being a sniper is more than shooting at a distance. It's stealth, concealment, being able to access the surrounding and target location to be able to get with in an acceptable range to make a one shot kill, then get back out.

[@whitespacemarines4308]

"That's like calling a Ferrari, a Break the Law Car",......Barry He was,....and IS Pure Gold!!

[@brianwaltz4227]

Thanks for the informative videos you all make. I know I appreciate all of the great knowledge you give in these videos, keep up the good work and God Bless.

[@ericcuellar5243]

We know what you mean Barry by your analogy like Eric said this is mind-boggling we miss you man and we're not going to give up the fight so don't worry

[@FlukeTog]

Thank you gentlemen. RIP

[@cameronwason5591]

my grandpa once told me " guns don't kill people , people kill people " this is the same concept you talk about in the video

[@wavelength1970]

I've had people think my collection of Mosins are all "sniper rifles".

[@mackman3778]

You guys are a great source of gun information.

[@JTR1974]

Love watching your videos, y'all keep up the good work, and I'll keep watching.

[@blackwolf9748]

Love this, RIP.... Barry.

[@blaineterrel5367]

real talk guns are just pieces of metal, an object cant be evil but people are dark and twisted. *RIP BARRY*

[@MrTowton1461]

great video. Thanks guys. look forward to the next one.

[@darthhodges]

By the definition given a pistol can be successfully used as a sniper weapon. Great distance was not given as a criteria, only concealment. Even a thrown knife could be a "sniper knife" if successfully used from concealment, like a dark shadow in an alley. I like the clarification. It also goes back to the idea that "guns don't kill people, people do". Guns make it easier, but so do cars and kitchen knives.

[@XV88tau94]

You can tell these guys are passionate about this stuff

[@alexfogg236]

Glad someone did a video about this.

[@geoffdanes8657]

I know it's just a movie but it makes a good point - "Shooter" the guy is a famous sniper with an appropriate rifle yet at one point he has to use an old .22... there really is no such thing as a sniper rifle but there is such a thing as a sniper. The training is intense with many separate skill sets - patience being the main one. Whatever rifle you put this sniper behind becomes a sniper rifle at that point & any professional sniper worth his salt can make the job work with most any half decent rifle & scope. BTW you can also be a sniper with a handgun... if you are shooting from cover at someone who doesn't know you're there - basically, you're a sniper.

[@Gcracker3000]

That's why the series is called gun gripes.

[@fartothesouth]

That old man is so wise....and that beard makes him look even wiser

[@jeffreyappel1100]

RIP Barry I learned a lot from your videos

[@xtimer431966]

You Are So Rite. I have a Remington 770 in 308 with a Sight Mark 4x15x42 with a sunshade and a custom camo paint job and a bipod. Everyone who sees it instantly says it's a sniper rifle.. No I always say it's a hunting and long range paper and Gong rifle.... I am glad you Addressed the confusion....

[@rollastoney]

Barry was so knowledgeable, man. RIP.

[@runite715]

I was always under the impression that a sniper rifle would be considered to be a sniper rifle if it was a rifle that could reliably hold sub-MOA groups.

[@lylesmith5079]

That what I have read also.

[@youzarseaf9855]

2:32 who moved that gun😳

[@jomanlely5088]

YOU 2 GENTLEMEN ARE RIGHT ON THE MONEY. THANK YOU FOR TRYING TO EDUCATE THE MASSES. J

[@longstrong232]

this show the best gun show ever!

[@williesumlin7892]

Scope + Rifle = Bambi in the freezer!

[@Ehtereon11B]

"Sniper" was first used to describe hunters of skill in the 18th Century who shot snipe, the bird. As the Snipe was considered a very challenging game animal but not much use for consumption. Most military units have replaced sniper with designated marksman or scout.

[@GeneralG1810]

Bang for buck Nikon scopes are awesome, great clarity and wide variety of power options

[@TheRealTeamFourStar]

"Fat fork!" Haha! I love it!

[@100nitrog]

I have to admit, I started playing videogames years before I ever fired a scoped rifle. Until that point, I'd only ever been to the range with a handgun or shotgun. It took awhile to adjust to actually having to deal with eye relief and whatnot.

[@ret1sgreyes]

well said and done video. I am a now retired Army 1SG and I did serve as a sniper in the 325th and 75th infantry regiments. its not a sniper weapon, it is called a sniper system because of many the components used for the mission at hand. by the way the M21 sniper system is still my favorite (M1A springfield) and the M110 SASS (semi auto sniper system fromknights ind the SR22)

[@TheJoel3803]

In the Swiss Armed Forces snipers are first trained as grenadiers in special operations, focusing on fighting in urban environments before they can start sniper training. I don't know how it is in other countries...

[@Demo7IIRider]

funny, i recall you having a video "Top 5 Zombie Defense Guns" where you called the R700 bolt action rifle a "sniper rifle" i mean all enthusiasts are going to know technical terms. like i bet you call "gears" on your bike but its called a chain-ring or cassette, motorcycle is called a sprocket. but at the end of the day its how we communicate and understand one another in conversation.

[@pac6010]

My whole point from the beginning..... thank you. Its the man that makes the gun a sniper rifle, not the gun or the features. Now if only the other guy could have gotten that point.

[@Roderick789]

I love your videos guys, keep it up

[@davidcarper5411]

Food doesn't kill people, Forks do !! Excellent !

[@fallenangel420333]

The Mosin Nagant 91-30 was the "Choice" rifle for the Russian Sniper in WW2. I myself have a 1922 model with the hex receiver. I did a custom job on it and love it. However it is still a target and hunting rifle as it will never be used to harm another human being.

[@daneflack2733]

Thompson centre venturer looks great mate im currantly paying off the exact same one but in 223 with a nikko stirling 4-14x44 scope 😁😁

[@joehuff4025]

I have a custom Remington 308 that shoots 1/2 MOA at 600 yards but I ain’t no sniper I’m a painter. I just call it my Remington, I just spend lots of time shooting. Hopefully I never have to shoot at people, but capable if need be. Also have an AR15 shooting dimes at 300 yards. Long range shooting is an ADDICTIVE hobby but very satisfying.