I love that these two never interrupt each other and they actually listen
@bobjohnson17374 жыл бұрын
i actually disagree with your assessment; if you take a deeper look; Ken is more of the talker and he will cut Bill off from time to time. Bill is inherently the better active listener by nature. And this is Bill's idea so he's also the host or the interviewer so he's less inclined to give his opinion and its mostly for Ken to share his knowledge.
@shane14894 жыл бұрын
Gentlemen
@678friedbed3 жыл бұрын
that's what happens when you speak with facts or about personal preference. a lot of people tend to speak about politics bassed on lies or take someone else's opinion as fact. you can't have an good educated chat when either one side or both sides are bassed on lies.
@brabhamfreaman1663 жыл бұрын
@OP I would dissent on the interruption point because Ken does tend to cut Bill off frequently. However, it isn’t a lecture by any means from either man. It’s a proper conversation. I also like the fact that they are not merely mutually agreeing on every single point. Different opinions help the learning/educated viewer immensely. Love listening to these Wilson-Hackthorn chats & of course, Mass Ayoob with either.
@bunyan61013 жыл бұрын
@@bobjohnson1737 good for you. That was a fantastic observation and a thoughtful and succinct explanation
@montanamountainmen61046 жыл бұрын
I love my Colt Commander, it was my mothers when she passed she left it to me. The pistol will consistently put 230 gr ball ammo inside a playing card at 25 yards. I own 3 1911's but my mother's Commander is my EDC and always will be.
@johnnypranin58745 жыл бұрын
You really might wanna stick to keeping any heirloom guns as range guns/ collectibles. The only reason why I say that is because in the aftermath of a defensive shooting, the cops will likely impound and book any gun that you shot your attacker with into evidence till the shooting has been ruled as a clean shoot. If you get your gun back, great, but you might not get it back in good condition. In some places they might not give you that gun back at all. Personally I’d be heartbroken(I’m sure my grandpa would too) if I got any of my grandpa’s guns that he passed on to me impounded in the aftermath of a defensive shooting and I never got em back.
@kimisdaman4 жыл бұрын
A buddy of mine has a Commander still in the evidence bag, as he got it from the police. Blood still eating away at the metal. :^(
@teacopem3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnypranin5874 but if you defensive kill someone with your fists, the police don't cut off your hand and keep it as evidence? Why do they do that with guns?
@johnnypranin58743 жыл бұрын
@@teacopem Well, if you put yourself in the shoes of the responding cops, they don't know all the details yet. When they arrive to investigate the aftermath of a defensive shoot, all they know at this point is: there's been a shooting and the shooter is claiming self defense. They're not yet sure who the good guys and bad guys are. They're also not yet sure whether or not you were justified in shooting your attacker. So they'll likely take your gun in for evidence while they sort out the case. This is why for self defense, you should stick to using guns that won't break your heart if they ever got impounded and never returned to you. Having a legal defense program to cover you in the aftermath (Self Defense Fund in my case) might help you get your gun back, but it's not guaranteed at all. But I'd say sign up still!
@nickrobinson95032 жыл бұрын
@@teacopem because government likes to disarm you every chance they get
@barryblu_space-bar3x3 жыл бұрын
These guys are the shit. Im a 37 yo brotha and cant get enough of them talking. Great videos.
@redneckaxeman12544 жыл бұрын
I could listen to Ken and bill talk guns all day, another great video.
@johnnypipe6 жыл бұрын
Another great episode, guys. You two have forgotten more than most of us will ever know. Keep'em coming.
@kensanity17822 күн бұрын
Just bought my first 1911. A Government Colt 45 1911XSE. I'm very happy with this heavy beautiful cannon.
@mickymcfarts57926 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. We need more legends to leave their impression.
@sonorangreenman447229 күн бұрын
Fabulous! I am basically the same age and had a new s80 government model since 82. I like comparing notes on whats important. For me, reliability is like a fire extinguisher, you want it to work 100%. good trigger, natural pointing for you. Sometimes we get caught up in the unneeded details. Bruce tucson.
@al3xc752 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy watching this 2 Amigos talking about any Gun topic…I learn something new every time😂..
@myvenusinuranus5 жыл бұрын
Wilson Combat #47 mags, 7rd.......the only mags I trust in a 1911 to work 100% not a huge Wilson Combat fan other than their magazines
@maxmccain89503 жыл бұрын
Absolutely the most reliable 1911 mags I’ve ever used. They work consistently in every one of my guns. 👍🏻
@kyinvestor4 жыл бұрын
I like it when Ken let’s Bill talk.
@mconnorhayworth61367 ай бұрын
A rare happening
@TheMunster76 жыл бұрын
This series is gold! Thank you for posting!
@cbtpro6 жыл бұрын
This should be the gun series on youtube with the highest # of views.
@Legionary5125 жыл бұрын
Hey Ken and bill, I'm a blind guy who loves guns and shooting. Appreciate the Ray Charles comment. :)
@Wildwestwrangler3 жыл бұрын
Living legends in this field!!!
@jimhartzell50926 жыл бұрын
Excellent Company, enjoy your talks !!
@robertdinicola92252 жыл бұрын
I carry a fullsize every day iwb in florida. I use paste wax, specifically mold release wax that i had from work. Its very hard to resist chemicals. 4 or 5 coats and dont remove much between coats and it lasts a few months. No oil i have found lasts. It rusts between the grip and the back strap and front strap, the little strip of exposed steel where it contacts my body. The pits that are there were all there before using wax.
@edbecka233Ай бұрын
Beavertails: Back in the day before drop-ins, I couldn't afford a smith-fit beavertail, and we had to shoot issue rack guns in the MIL competitions anyway, so carrying a pre-shaped pad of moleskin was a necessity. Most of my leg points were earned with a rack 1911 and issue ball ammo.
@BettingOnTheOzarks6 жыл бұрын
Great source of information! These two completely know what they are talking about. Might as well listen to what they say.
@trulyhappy88552 жыл бұрын
You could make this video two hours long and I’d still sit here happily for the duration.
@bigghoss7626 жыл бұрын
I just love this series.
@srkwixdraw5 жыл бұрын
Mr. Hackathorn is impressivly honest regarding his shooting precision due to age and sight issues. I like two element low light sights like the old King Tappan sights. Carried those on a Commander for nearly 25 years.
@getoffmylawn89865 жыл бұрын
Yes. I loved those sights.
@Wildwestwrangler3 жыл бұрын
I agree!!! I had 20/13 vision when younger now I can't see the sights very clearly without glasses due to astigmatism, but I can still achieve combat accuracy without glasses, but with my glasses the groups are cut to half or less
@bigbadfnmonkey6 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your chats fellas, always best wishes, Mike.
@PeterOldschool Жыл бұрын
I love my colt 1911 govt with flat main spring, basic 3 white dot sights, short pad trigger, commander hammer over a short beavertail, 18.5lb recoil spring, shooting mostly 230gr +P ammo and she groups a hockey puck at 25 yds pretty easily. Colt makes a great pistol still. You pay for it definitely... But its consistent quality!
@51Dss4 жыл бұрын
I gave the vid a thumbs up. In a number of your vids you guys talk about ammo relative to function/malfunctioning of the gun. It would a good and well appreciated video if you would bring in some various examples of ammo - and show them up close - showing bullet shapes, OAL examples, etc and talk about the hows whys and wherefores with regard to feeding problems. Do this with both 45acp and 9mm - use ball, hollow points, xtp, brass case, aluminum case, steel case etc. I don't buy the cheapest stuff out there myself. I absolutely insist upon brass case to begin with. NO STEEL and I have only shot aluminum case because someone gave it to me as a gift. Free ammo is the best! LOL Thanks
@squirrelhillfarm90704 жыл бұрын
Only 4 things needed for a 1911. A owner with common sense. Good quality ammo- magazines- proper holster.
@markstark77313 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@9ZERO65 жыл бұрын
Just get a Wilson, and forget about needing to mod it. My 2003 Protector is an out the box custom beast. Carried in on police duty for 6 years and thousands of rounds and ZERO failures. Big $$$ but I have never regretted my purchase. Always ALWAYS Wilson mags. Period.
@barryblu_space-bar3x3 жыл бұрын
A Wilson is on the bucket list
@redneckwithajeep50015 жыл бұрын
I’ve been carrying an older Springfield armory XD sub compact in 40 caliber for a couple years. About the beginning of this month I held and 1911 for the first time. I didn’t even pull the trigger and I almost traded my Springfield on the spot for it. The only reason I didn’t is because I know my Springfield works every time I pull the trigger and being my only handgun I’m not willing to trade it off on something that I know nothing about the history of especially being a used gun. I figure in a few months I’ll probably own a 1911. I think I want something fairly bare bones that I can change as I see fit as I go
@orion78734 жыл бұрын
A Springfield XD 40 is the only gun I've ever fired and absolutely hated... almost anything else would be an upgrade from that.
@justaguy4real6 жыл бұрын
1:00 well if you cant shoot well with an inferior trigger, the sights wont mtter much. bc even if do upgrade sights and shoot with inferior trigger, it could negate the sights.
@kittrainbow75 жыл бұрын
👍 In my experience an high quality 1911 (45acp with high quality magazines) is way more reliable than the modern cheap "plastic" striker fired pistols plus there is an obvious quality gap in components, had both, 1911s are keepers.
@brianb9005 жыл бұрын
kittrainbow 7 I’ve got 3 colt 1911’s and all 3 will reliably feed everything I’ve tried in them, and I’ve shot all kinds of hard ball and hollow points.
@lambchop62104 жыл бұрын
Gonna be straight man. In iraq 2 guys carried 1911s (1 was an ed brown the other a kimber) they would choke on military 45. But all of our glocks worked no matter what we fed them
@john-paulsilke8934 жыл бұрын
thomas jefferson absolutely 1911’s are sand and ammo sensitive. On a static range with less then 10 magazines and decent lube 1911’s are absolutely king. But in the nasty with inconsistent ammo and poor lube, (super hot out and the oil or grease can walk away on you). But for an urban carry, absolutely amazing if that’s your thing, and often many advantages vs a plastic fantastic. (My money is on a G23 because carry compliance but in a grapple, which is a real possibility a solid steel 1911 makes for a really awesome club even if you can’t shoot).
@TheFlutecart2 жыл бұрын
My 1911 ACP is a hobbled together Essex. I did not build it, but it has never had a problem shooting. Except for the time I used crappy surplus magazines. Then it would jam up often. Switched to good magazines and never another problem. It's the accuracy that needs a tweak. The grouping is not so good. The pistol is really pretty old and has been shot a lot, not much finish left, perhaps the Springfield barrel is done. I'll try another barrel and a Wilson Combat Dwyer Group Gripper and see how it does. Besides that I will try an extended slide lock. Maybe I'll like it better than the GI version on it now. I like the old Wilson Combat square sights on it. Work good for me. But they need some paint in the sight holes, they are pretty old. Should I use nail polish?
@jorgesolis94682 жыл бұрын
Mags are the Achilles heel of 1911s
@NBZW Жыл бұрын
I do what works for me, obtain a N.M. bushing, barrel and link. Remove the slide and squeeze it in a large vice, gently until you feel a slight friction when the slide is returned to the frame, apply toothpaste to the slide rails and work the slides a bit clean off the toothpaste and return the slide,if the slightest amount of friction is felt STOP. Install good sights and a trigger shoe. You now have a reasonably accurate weapon. Have assembled 1911’s that no part numbers match, it works and you save a lot of money. A good pair of checked wood grips are well worth the price, there are many tuning tricks you can do your self.
@mean45acp5 жыл бұрын
After my 40 plus years with 1911s my list is: MUST: 1) 100%Reliably!!!!!! 2) Wilson Combat 47D 8round mags ONLY!!!!! 3) Ed Brown Memory Groove Beavertail Grip Safety 4) Clean, crisp CONSISTANT trigger 5) Good sights. Wide rear notch, skinny front post!!!! WANTS: Checkered front strap, Checkered mainspring housing, DECENT cocking serrations, love flat tops, like serrated tops, mag well, grippy grip panels. I can use skateboard tape for checkering have for years on many guns, especially USPSA/IPSC guns. Really like a pic rail to mount a light!!
@JT.454 жыл бұрын
I agree about the Wilson 47D mags, but try the Tripp Cobra mags.
@sambolino443 жыл бұрын
I put a curved mainspring housing on mine. For a carry gun, I'd prefer either a Series 80 or a titanium firing pin.
@socom3086 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your videos gentlemen, thank you. Can you elaborate on the issue of 230 gr. hardball bullet shape and what we should be looking for or what do you recommend?
@montanamountainmen61046 жыл бұрын
Winchester white box 230 gr FMJ. I have a full box of military 45 ACP ammo made by Lake City Arsenal dated 1968. The bullet is the same size and shape as the Winchester 230 gr FMJ. Matter of fact Winchester makes a lot of ammo for military and police .
@DavidLLambertmobile5 жыл бұрын
John Moses Browning designed the 1911 series around the 230gr FMJ bullet. Some cadre & cops toted 230gr FMJs or a JHP load for most of the 1900s. ✔. In the 2010s, the 230gr JHP is still fine. Wilson suggests the 230gr standard pressure FMJ load for practice. As does gunsmith, SWAT cop Dave Lauck. 🚔.
@mauricemaurice1236 жыл бұрын
Keep these videos coming
@tanker52073 жыл бұрын
I'm with Mr. Hackathorn on the ambi safety hitting my trigger finger, but I still like an ambi safety, I just like the right side to be standard size or smaller. To get that set up from Wilson Combat, I have had to buy two ambi safeties, one extended and one standard, and mix the parts. That works great, but it's an expensive way to do it. It would be nice if you guys sold one set up that way... :-)
@princeofmoskova6 жыл бұрын
Excellent series!
@azcactus20083 жыл бұрын
I had no idea that lubricity was a word. I love learning new things.😂
@ritesideofthefence58573 жыл бұрын
Trijicon hd sights orange dot and Wilson 47d mags, life is good
@spudthompson14142 жыл бұрын
Being cooler blind I like white dots I can see them clear and bright.
@turkeyhunter76179 ай бұрын
Cool video 😎
@davidunderwood36056 жыл бұрын
I liked this video, very informative. W.C. is a perfomace standard in the industry that exceeds kimber, colt and pretty much all others. Your parts made the older Colts far more reliable. Your mags are top of the line. One thing I don't get is why the coments on these videos never show up. All other video coments are readable. Are coments on your videos so private or bad that W.C. doesn't want the public to see them?
@johnkizziah1083 жыл бұрын
My fave is checkered front strap. I've got old welder hands and can shoot much better with front strap checkered.
@BaileyBecca3 жыл бұрын
I myself found that I prefer a non serrated trigger. I find they cut into my finger at least on Thr 10mm 1911
@DANTHETUBEMAN2 жыл бұрын
frag grenade grips are the best I have held
@mdd19635 жыл бұрын
These guys speak my language!!!!!!!
@jamescooper26184 жыл бұрын
I'm a 1911 fan and came to the comments waiting to see someone say "Just buy a Glock and be done with it." Kinda surprised there isn't one
@gregoryvanek90384 жыл бұрын
I own a couple of Glocks and 1911’s...love ‘me all.
@Lekporr4 жыл бұрын
Just buy a flock and be gone with it
@kellyBorgman3 жыл бұрын
Mags are the biggest problem if everything else is good.
@JG10rBull4 жыл бұрын
Well good convo's... they didn't talk about the heading LOL
@tylarhaugan79082 жыл бұрын
For a standard carry gun is something with good sights and white light. Is what i go for.
@triggerman10923 жыл бұрын
Man ken hackathorns pistol is beautiful! I guess for $4000 i could have one.😭
@rueridge75976 жыл бұрын
Good info. Now go get an Ed Brown
@Longrangetargets5 жыл бұрын
I like em, they're cool.
@rickgrimes9316 жыл бұрын
Not a single mention of a rail on a 1911? I know you make them, but have never heard your opinion or how they can or do affect reliability.
@joewilliam93155 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I like a light on my nightstand weapon.
@rodbrown64343 жыл бұрын
Learn from the Masters!
@judysimpson37742 жыл бұрын
Two very knowledgeable guys... Oh and I invented a drinking game. You have to drink a shot every time Bill blinks. One KZbin clip and you can't drive for two days.
@getoffmylawn89865 жыл бұрын
What holster is Ken using?
@jayclark72373 жыл бұрын
There ARE some people who should not be allowed to reload! Amen.
@tulemike66276 жыл бұрын
i will not carry a gun until i have spent time at the range and know it is very reliable.
@danielduckworth31005 жыл бұрын
I would pay money to work in Bill's shop.
@gowilsoncombat5 жыл бұрын
Well, traditionally, we usually do that the other way around, but we'll be sure to pass that along.
@danielduckworth31005 жыл бұрын
Hahaha.
@tulemike66276 жыл бұрын
ya'll obviously have been there,done that and have the t-shirt.great video.by the way,when i got my rock island 1911.i polished the ramp and throut, and replaced the inards with wilson combat parts.it still cost less than a springfield.just dropped in the parts,did not have to do any fitting.it works very well.won't use any parts but wilson combat.
@bflochip81294 жыл бұрын
One accessory you didnt mention was a recoil buffer. Do you think they have any benefit? I see them for sale on the Wilson Combat website.
@Wildwestwrangler3 жыл бұрын
They are for people who want them, but not necessary
@jorgesolis94682 жыл бұрын
Not needed in the heat of the moment you wont notice the recoikd between a 380 or 45 acp
@thomasmorarre91936 жыл бұрын
Did not understand the comment about not using ball ammo. I thought the 1911 preferred round nose FMJ ammo. Maybe the term 'ball ammo' means something else. Ken does not like Wolf ammo, but he did not recommend anything. That would have been helpful.
@44hawk286 жыл бұрын
Perhaps they are referring to the original World War 1 ball ammo. That is truly the only animal that has ever been manufactured that is properly called ball ammo, as it is manufactured they make the copper cup for the projector they drop a steel Ball Bearing in the nose and then fill the rest of it with lead and finish making the projectile. They wanted to make sure that it would never get any larger than .45. It was also an extremely accurate round. It also had an exact semicircle shape if you looked at it from the side. All other ammo is properly referred to as Full Metal Jacket. But the term ball did start being used when referring to other Full Metal Jacket ammo. Glad to hear the Bill Wilson will stand behind his work because Les Baer doesn't, I happen to know someone who had a less bear firearm that shirt off one of the Locking lugs on the barrel and they refuse to fix it. Their excuse was that they didn't know what kind of ammo he was shooting through it.
@montanamountainmen61046 жыл бұрын
The term " Ball ammo" is old dating back to WW1. Basically " Ball ammo" is military FMJ still made by Winchester in the "white box" . Its just the older term to military FMJ or civilian 230 gr FMJ.My granddads both WWII vets and my dad a Vietnam Vet call FMJ " ball ammo" its just the old military moniker.
@samcalderon54964 жыл бұрын
Just ordered my 1st gun Springfield 1911 TRP Operator and want to use quality ammo...any recommendations?
@arkansan_5014 жыл бұрын
How do you like your TRP? I’m looking into buying one.
@scottbanghart38663 жыл бұрын
Love mine. The bushings less bull barrel makes the gun look awesome !
@Wildwestwrangler3 жыл бұрын
No cause whatever you're suggested won't be in stock. Buy whatever factory non steel ammo you can get your hands on, cause if you're a die-hard one brand fan you're going to be disappointed a lot, especially since even if you can find it regularly it is hardly ever the same brand
@1misticointolerante4 жыл бұрын
Make a ballester molina wilson combat.....
@GatCat3 жыл бұрын
Where’s the take my money button? Oh there it is.
@jstpsgthru6 жыл бұрын
What ammo???? Any name brand, like Federal, Winchester, etc.. Can you be more specific about the shape of the nose for 45 acp? Thanks
@mdd19635 жыл бұрын
it was designed for hardball/FMJ, but, most will feed a variety of JHP bullets; test them, if no issues in 100-200 rounds, you are probably good to go... Most guns that have issues will let you know within 2 mags full..
@justinespinosa78786 жыл бұрын
Please do an EDC X9 in black with white grips so I can pretend to be as cool as Hackathorn! Call it the KH model
@moreme40 Жыл бұрын
Good video. But the subject appears to be features rather than accessories like the title
@codybarnes43694 жыл бұрын
The ammo X)
@garymatney93444 жыл бұрын
Bill Wilson I saved for 6 months , doing odd jobs, etc., ( I was 70 @ the time), to purchase an WC EDCX9. It’s been back twice for failure to extract. Each time you’re guys tell me there is nothing wrong with the pistol. I shoot twice a week, not a novice! If your warranty is so great , why am I still having occasional failures to extract???😩
@TheBandit596 жыл бұрын
I dont buy cheap ammo,I I practice with what I carry,but my Wilson Combat Ultralight Commander,feeds everything flawlessly! Hey Bill,how about a 3.5" barrelled,officer size grip,1911,in .45?I know if anyone could make one for reliable,its you.Id put a deposit down the day you premier it?If you dont,I might have to order one from Nighthawk,that makes a 3.8" barrelled .45 ,or Cyllider and Slide,who makes on 3.5" .I love Wilson Combat,I bought my Commander and Recon from you,and love them!I want the smallest and lightest ,1911 in .45! Kimbers are junk,I want it american made,Detonics like,in demension,but light!
@jamesmandahl4442 жыл бұрын
So much boomer aesthetics.... I kinda like it.
@SouthFlaRon1958 Жыл бұрын
👀
@ottoman58194 жыл бұрын
I want a Wilson combat elite 1911 so bad but the price tag 🏷
@orion78734 жыл бұрын
Keep working, keep saving... you can have anything you set your mind to. I saved for 4 years to get a Nighthawk (sorry Bill).
@daviddale36246 жыл бұрын
Just like parachutes, it isn't absolutely reliable...I don't want it. Nothing else matters if it doesn't work.
@ronaldjohnson1474 Жыл бұрын
Why would anybody voluntarily live in Milwaukee? My only thought is "targets of opportunity".
@rodneyhobbs65072 жыл бұрын
First time I heard lubricity.
@joeleadslinger61386 жыл бұрын
Some truth some BS
@davidp41922 жыл бұрын
Lubricity.
@timetellersunion37114 жыл бұрын
Jesus bless you
@jonathannelson333 жыл бұрын
The Ken guy says you only need two things then says he needs everything.
@TheBandit596 жыл бұрын
If the ms sentinel was in .45,id own one.
@emmittbishop47835 жыл бұрын
If you depend on a weapon that you have to think about that much then you have the wrong weapon. If you're that intent on a 1911 for survival just buy an FNX 45. Higher capacity and it will always work. Costs less too. Just sayin.
@jasonroyce35872 жыл бұрын
the best 1911 accessory is a glock 19
@davidtompkins79404 жыл бұрын
Best 1911 accessory is a Glock to take over when the 1911 stove pipes
@orion78734 жыл бұрын
A Glock is like a Honda Civic. Cheap, highly customizable, holds it's value and can run 100,000 miles with no oil change ... but, everyone has one and it's no one's first choice. but a nice 1911 is like a Ferrari. Expensive, sensitive, high maintenance... but man, it's way faster than a Honda and it sure does turn heads.
@kellyBorgman3 жыл бұрын
Good mags, etc. I have 3 1911's that just run and run. If it stovepipes, something is wrong. Correct that and it will run.
@controlledchaos78089 ай бұрын
A Block, I'm sorry glock, doesnt even compare to a good 1911. Shouldnt even be in the same sentence with Wilson Combat, Ed Brown, Les Bauer, and even Dan Wesson amoung others.😂
@warrencohen30654 жыл бұрын
ever combat pistol should be equipped with Crimson Trace laser grips
@m.loughlin19153 жыл бұрын
The best accessory by far, for the 1911 owner is one of those big-ass metal shredders like they have in junkyards that turn old cars into confetti. Fire up that bad boy and take your 1911 and throw the worthless clunker in. Then, go buy a revolver that actually works right out of the box. No sharp corners, a better trigger, and sights you can see.
@kellyBorgman3 жыл бұрын
Thousands upon thousands of rounds thru 1911's. I had 5 at one time and they all worked. I shoot revolvers, 1911's, Glocks, Sigs etc. No problems with any of them.
@jorgesolis94682 жыл бұрын
Never had any problem with any 1911s except one kind of tisas 1911
@johnschall3013 Жыл бұрын
I need a Wilson Combat 1911, but alas, I’m a poor….