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In episode three of VICE, Thomas Morton meets a gun-crazy pastor who teaches his young students gun drills and tactics to disarm attackers, and Shane Smith travels to Fallujah, Iraq, where a rise in birth defects has been linked to the American military's suspected use of depleted-uranium munitions during the war.
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[@PhlyDaily]

8:55 that line that lady said me think wtf yo...

[@leopardthebismarck1519]

Wow

[@MDMiller60]

They're NOT SUBSTITUTING for police Officers. The Officers have NOT ARRIVED YET! FINALLY, a school that HAS IT RIGHT.

[@bratz2]

EXACTLY!!

[@darriusjimmyadger4942]

She stupid. Police aren't trained for years anyway.

[@justinbuchowski]

She obviously just wants them to get slaughtered until the police get there. Typical anti gun moron

[@Redasurc]

@@darriusjimmyadger4942 what?

[@DiggyDiggy1919]

@@justinbuchowski Typical. . . Just typical. Fucking typical moron, you know? Typical asshole. . . man. . . so typical.

[@alexrulz911]

gotta love vice. they cover stories that traditional news media wouldnt touch with a ten foot pole.

[@danielhan8995]

Not any more... I miss the gold days of VICE

[@thelegendaryck]

@@danielhan8995 ikr

[@Mr2ndAmendment]

From a firearms training standpoint, 6 months of concurrent training before being able to carry is MORE than enough compared to any state's concealed carry requirements. They have armed security and well-trained armed teachers and if that fails, the kids are taught to band together to defend themselves. I see nothing wrong with this, I just wish every school in America was this well-protected against attackers, I think our kids are worth protecting. Nothing will train you for the actual act of returning fire in the moment, but this level and consistency of training is excellent and certainly it's better than no guns and no training. I want our children to not just feel safe in school, I want them to BE safe and I think this is great.

[@Mr2ndAmendment]

jussayin mipeece I can agree with you to an extent. I realize that there are many millions of guns in America -no one, including the government, knows for sure but it's enough to arm every man, woman, and child. We can't ever ban them and they won't ever be confiscated completely, so the best approach is to have one of your own and know how to use it. You can choose to be the "good guy" and be unarmed but criminals will never get rid of their guns. It's a personal choice but when you've lived it and seen it done the right way every day, owning guns is not a problem -in fact it's an asset to your own safety. Regular people owning weapons is in our very historical fabric -and enshrined in our Constitution. Guns aren't going anywhere, might as well face it head on rather than ignore it.

[@focused313]

Mr2ndAmendment very true.

[@DiggyDiggy1919]

I think being prepared is a good thing. Though, looking at this from a probability standpoint these teachers are more likely to experience an accidental discharge that hurts themselves or their kids than having to defend against an active shooter.

[@tmi1234567]

There was a shooting near me when I was a kid. It had the potential to be the worst shooting at the time. 200-400 people in a church, 1000+ rounds of ammo in ma, a rifle and some pistols. A lady carrying a pistol shot him in the head and he was done for. It was the new life church shooting in Colorado Springs. I will always remember this and with proper training, I think we have the best bet of fighting firepower with firepower.

[@sanketkumar8040]

Check point with metal sensor at school gate will help in big way. If something happen to them an alarm can make everyone alert. But the best way is to get rid of this gun culture. In today's world it is not needed at all

[@WaroftheWall]

It says a lot when half of this video is about a truly horrible thing, babies dying poisoned, slow, painful deaths, forgotten by everybody, and we are all still here discussing like little kids about the first part of the video. Isn't it time to start really caring about other people? So many Christians, Muslims, Atheist, all saying that we love our neighbourhoods and still, no one does anything for them.

[@samanthax2848]

I totally agree with you. after the second half of the video I was so baffled how much I had to scroll through the comments to find one about the after effects of the war. really sad.

[@lilcrust3063]

I get what you mean but, the shooting thing was the first half so it makes a little sense

[@FancySeeingYouHere]

I like how they're teaching the kids to rather die on their feet than live on their knees. I see a whole lot of selfless service, honor, loyalty, and personal courage from these kids.

[@staylitt9983]

1234U like how emeliano zapata said

[@adambelk3495]

In different times

[@sanketkumar8040]

Self defense training is nice but using gun will have very negative impact becuz even the student can attack their fellow one.only one beneficiary of Gun culture i.e manufacturer. Students especially teenager goes through a hormonal change they can take very extreme steps. A bully from one side can lead to killing from other side. self defense is very appreciated but not weapon training.

[@Jusderrick]

I guess ppl didn't see the kids in Iraq! Just talking about guns in our country! Shit is sad

[@ilianatamez5802]

Jus Derric but there the one who wanted to go to war with us

[@erichernandez4534]

What kids...

[@varun009]

"They're training kids to be vigilantes." So defending yourself and other classmates instead of waiting for the police to arrive when all your friends are dead is the better option??? Keep walking, lady.

[@varun009]

"Years of training that armed police officers get." Let's inject some logic into this stupid argument. Police get years of training because they're not trained to deal with disarming gunmen exclusively. Contrary to what liberals may think, police training involves the physical aspect but is centered on diffusing domestic disturbances and reviewing what constitutes criminal activity as well as citizen's rights. Unless you're swat, the tactical training is a very small part of the job.

[@DiggyDiggy1919]

No no no. They're training kids to be Power Rangers. Get it right.

[@michelangelo7441]

Yes have children charge at the person with a fully automatic weapon, and could easily shoot them down as they approach, and there is also the possibility the children become too scared to do anything because fight or flight cannot be changed not even for the bravest of people, and also there is also shock, a person can become shocked at seeing there is weapon point at them and stand completely still and unable to think. And the shock of killing someone or seeing someone die can cause PTSD in a child, and I don’t believe getting shot at while trying to he a hero will help, and by columbine there were 2 shooters, which means if you were trying to be a hero that would 800 rounds flying at you. It would be much easier if America acted smart like Australia ban assault rifles for citizen use and hold only for closely monitored military use, and nothing less, a lot of people would he alive right now if America were smarter.

[@mikeyjames6808]

@@michelangelo7441 Australia being a country and continent doesn't border any other land. America waged war on drugs and the black markets thrive on its continued failure. What would happen if we make the guns illegal? Australia can ban whatever they want and regardless of what it is it'll be easier to enforce due to geography. I'm just saying it sounds simpler than it is. I'm not arguing with you.

[@danielhan8995]

@@michelangelo7441 WRONG!!! After Australia banned firearms there was a uprising in crime and violent crime especially. The US isn't first in school shootings, or gun violence. 2 million lives are saved in the defensive use of firearms. 15k excluding suicides are killed a year. What are 'assault weapons' there is no legal definition. Also full auto arms are extremely regulated by the goverment and very expensive. The teacher has a gun! Let me give you a scenario. Shooter: **Kills 3 kids** Teacher: **Pulls out CC weapon and kills shooter** See this means less death than more death. Most shootings aren't from kids grabbing a gun (technically they are) but negligent parents since I keep it in a 3000 usd safe that is near impossible to get into. Almost all shootings use illegally obtained firearms. It's why we want to build a wall. The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Cain killed Abel without a gun. Evil people will do evil things. A gun or knife can kill people. Should we ban knives? Also cars kill many more people and are big metal blocks at high speeds. Should we ban cars? We can get around without them... Subway, bike, electric scooter, or walking. Just because something can kill doesn't mean it is any less important. You can ram somebody with a car or even more deadly a truck or stab somebody with a kitchen knife while not watching. Give the good guys guns. We have strict regulations already on who can buy and not buy or even own a legal firearm. You are misinformed and your arguement is so many logical fallacies. Get a grip and face the truth.

[@RiotHouseLP]

You never know when we might see a newspaper title "Armed Murderer Killed by Teacher with Gun before Police Arrived." Or any of the other possibilities that could happen with firearms on campus legally...

[@DraXuS87]

Mass media only hypes on disasters, suffering, and tragedies, I'm quite sure that with the help of trained vigilantes, many crimes have been stopped already or didn't happen at all, but those stories won't be broadcast in your average tv newsreport. The consens on tv is: guns are bad, mkay. If you support anything like that, you're bad as well, mkay. It's sad and I'm glad vice adressed another way to look on this matter.

[@RiotHouseLP]

DraXuS87 Yeah I agree, mmmmm'kay ;)

[@AlexTrubinDesign]

"Teaching them to be vigilantes...cannot substitute years of training of police officers" every day regular people stop crimes simply because they are prepared. More guns, less crime.

[@sheep89]

If you need a gun to be feel safe in a country, then it is not a safe country.

[@AlexTrubinDesign]

More guns, less crime.

[@sheep89]

BlackNYC You´re from the US right? The countries with the lowest recorded crime also happens to be the countries with strict weapons policy.

[@AlexTrubinDesign]

sheep89 "More Guns, Less Crime" is a book by John Lott, through statistical analysis proves that violent crime rates go down when states pass "shall issue" concealed carry laws.

[@Svartsomkato]

BlackNYC Im not here to pick a fight or anything. How do you see the problem in other countries? Of course its not easy to have a good insight in how it works all around the world but im just asking for you opinion. Like in alot of european countries were gun laws are VERY strict and guns a extremely rare sight and where crime rates are very low. I know most countries are smaller but even if you look at the percentage it is very low. So, any thoughts on that? Have a great day.

[@nickd1961]

I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it

[@dylanc760]

Guns are not only a weapon of assault on innocent people, they're also a self defense tool against those very threats. Why don't gun grabbers understand this concept? If you don't want to be able to defend yourself - fine, but don't try taking my right to do that away.

[@dylanc760]

PureNT "Because the right to bear arms is being used in an abusive manner to take away freedom and liberty from innocent people, especially children." No, it's not. What are even talking about?

[@dead_p1xl964]

PureNT "when the civil right is bringing more harm than good, it's obvious that something needs to change" Well we can talk about that when that actually happens. If you honestly think that a few dozen deaths from the hands of a crazy few is 'more harm' than all the crimes and evil stopped by guns - whether fired or just used as a deterrent - you're drinking the Kool-Aid. Yes, the Democratic laws are useless. Yes, the NRA is a bit out of touch. I agree there should be some minimal training at least(especially after hearing a gun shop owner say he's sold people guns who *didn't know they had to pull the trigger* to fire it). There are already limits to psychological background when buying a gun, though I think forcing an evaluation is overkill. Maybe we can start by requiring background check paperwork even for private party sales? Seems like a good first step to keeping known criminals and mentally ill people from getting them.

[@augie731]

+Dylan C The police should be capable of satisfying that need. If they can't, the solution is better police and better laws, not more guns.

[@augie731]

+DEAD_P1XL Don't invoke the Jonestown cult unless you are genuinely talking about the Jonestown cult. Also, it wasn't Kool-Aid, it was Flavor-Aid. GRAPE Flavor-Aid.

[@dead_p1xl964]

Augie Pomerleau What the fuck are you talking about? Do you not know the common idiom "drinking the Kool-Aid"?

[@shaundas]

2nd part was hard to watch man, poor kids..

[@andrewrhoffman]

Literally how is this different than a fire drill or earthquake drill or a nuclear bomb drill? It's all preparing for potential threats to life.

[@andrewrhoffman]

Andrew Hoffman The odds of any of those happening or causing injury is slim. Yet I remember doing all of them in elementary school.

[@maxpulido4268]

Lol we used to do poison gas drills in the early 2,000s

[@jimraynor7788]

Everyone is talking about school shootings which kill 50-60 people a year while the Uranium munitions are killing thousands and the toxicity of the environment is killing even more. Priorities people, priorities.

[@eggtarts286]

Depleted uranium bullets or not, war sucks. It's no holds barred, no rules enforced. Is your nation conscripting? Try Serbia in WW1, which has lost 60% of its entire male population in four years. Are you a civilian? How do you feel about Syria, where millions of innocent people have been bombed clean out of their capitals just a few years ago? War sucks, period. Regardless of who it's against, or what means it's conducted under. Rule-governed wars simply don't exist. People will get extorted, tortured, disenfranchised, diseased, killed. People will get shot. Families will lose fathers, mothers, wives, brothers, sisters, children. In a warzone, radiation poisoning is probably the last concern. After all, those who suffer from it are those who were lucky enough to survive. :/

[@shazaamshazaam9710]

@@fatrat600284 go do something about it then donate money make your life devoted to that

[@FerrariTeddy]

"theyre training them to be vigilanties" no... theyre training them to defend themselves! why is it so bad to defend yourself these days, in my school they actuaoy saod if someone is beating you up, you cant hit them back you just have to wait for a teacher... lile really. if someone punches me im punching back idgaf who says not to.

[@dhl671]

ferrariteddy “if someone punches me im punching back idgaf who says not to”. but......if I punch you, you ain’t punching me back. you gonna be sleeping 💤

[@drtyg777]

dhl671 corny

[@tsoflawless8616]

ferrariteddy speak the English

[@MrSuperkaji]

When a home invader breaks in to my house, I would rather have the instant security of a gun, than the less certain security of the police. The police are not legally required to protect you from harm, they are merely there to uphold the law. Even then, I would not trust certain police forces to do even that. I value my life more than I value the life of a criminal.

[@AlanLiang]

Use a fricking taser...

[@MrSuperkaji]

Alan Liang What I said above still applies, I value my life and the lives of my friends and family over that of someone who willingly decides to break the law. A taser may not penetrate heavy articles of clothing such as jackets, and will not offer the same guarantee of "stopping power" as a handgun, rifle, or shotgun.

[@wizardsbane]

Alan Liang Tasers are illegal in some states and countries for self defense use. If they were legal and available everywhere, they would be a good solution I agree.

[@lukewedgwood229]

if you give everyone a gun, then you're entrusting regular citizens with very little knowledge of the law or use a gun to defend themselves with the power to take other people's lives

[@MrSuperkaji]

***** Do you really trust the government over their own citizenry? Especially after the Snowden leaks, the Dorner manhunt, Waco, Ruby Ridge, etc.

[@lahdeedah87]

To see the effects on the children and families in Fallujah is heartbreaking.

[@Tai2617]

"BAM, jam his eye out" lmao these guys are hardcore

[@CorginShep]

"years of training that armed police officers get" You mean those initial 6 months and 1 day of qualifications per year?

[@DiggyDiggy1919]

She was likely referring to career experience and phrased it poorly. I could be wrong though.

[@ceoofworldpeace8901]

"Though defensive violence will always be 'a sad necessity' in the eyes of men of principle, it would be still more unfortunate if wrongdoers should dominate just men." - St. Augustine

[@TairyHesticles]

Jesus, can't we just be people? You do realize how ridiculous posting nationalistic comments on a Vice video is, right? We're all people and we all need to work together if we ever want to evolve further. Where you were born and what your government has done has absolutely zero effect on any of it. Stop letting nationalism serve as a barrier to reality.

[@remyllebeau77]

It really disgusts me that some of the people interviewed would prefer to leave these kids defenseless and untrained.

[@jerico641]

+Remy Lebeau Dude, they're CHILDREN...

[@remyllebeau77]

+jerico641 Which is why they used the older ones.

[@remyllebeau77]

+jerico641 Would you prefer they do nothing while gunmen shoot up the place? Are you insane?

[@augie731]

+Remy Lebeau It's mostly sad that we have to do this to our kids, no matter how necessary.

[@augie731]

+Remy Lebeau You (probably) aren't an insane murderer, so you can't tell how they think. If someone wants to target that school because the voices told him to, they will. They're delusional, after all. Your preference to fight rather than be submissive doesn't matter at all, as it has no effect on whether they actually die. Maybe if they hide, they won't get shot. Those three Americans were both a. veterans, and b. the exception, not the rule.

[@mixflip]

My question is...would the anti gun advocates be ok if all children and teachers take "run hide fight" classes with an emphasis on the techniques of fighting back using th swarm techniques as a last resort....but without armed teachers? Im guessing they wouldn't even want to do that kind of training because they would say they are training teachers and kids to be "Rambo" if a man with a gun came to their school and even fighting back would be the wrong thing to do. Self defense simply does not matter to the anti gun crowd. They will train for fires but preparing for an active shooter is excessive to them.

[@shananagans5]

Interesting thought. In general, you are better off fighting back but I am not sure how effective young children would be. High school aged, yes, they could take someone down easily, Grade schoolers???? I am a criminologist / forensic psychologist so I have two main concerns. One, the mental health of the children. Is it really worth scaring them & creating that paranoia over something that is excessively rare? Will training the children really help much? The criminologist side knows getting rid of gun free zones is the easiest, most practical way to help. Allowing school staff to carry if they want to will take the target off the schools. High levels of training would help but aren't really even needed. The anti-gun crowd screams "what if a teacher hits a student?" That could happen & that is a terrible thought but, what is important here is shifting the violence away from the schools. Most mass shooters stop when faced with resistance so I think more situations will be helped by having armed teachers but, even if a situation comes up where an armed teacher makes it worse we are still going to shift the overall pattern away from the schools. That is the big picture. Worst case scenario here: Every school shooting results in a teacher causing 1 additional death. We are still way ahead of the game if we cut down the number of school shootings by 50%. School A, B and C had an additional death but schools D, E, and F never had a shooting. Criminology works with patterns & societal rates. Yes, having a gun in the home increases the chance of an accident. The chances of an accident is 100% dependent on the individual household but, on a societal level, there will be accidents. Now, on the other hand, guns in the home keep criminals out. Criminology is concerned with the net effect on society. Are we better off with the accidents & keeping criminals out or are we better off banning guns? We know what that net effect is. There is an entire body of professional literature out there with literally millions of studies on virtually everything you could imagine. Guns & crime is the 2nd most studied social issue in the world, right behind drugs. We know what is going on & I have a hard time taking the anti-gun groups seriously. We know getting rid of gun free zones will shift patterns away from schools. It's not my opinion & I think it's unethical to not consider doing something we know will help over a political idealism. It's like a religious group denying their children modern medicine. It's just insane. Are lives worth the idealism? In my book, ethically, we must push for what we know will help the situation. lol Anyways, I am rambling. Good Day !!

[@mixflip]

shananagans5 Its odd that after 38 kids were killed in a school fire almost 90 years ago en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster, we do mandatory fire drills even though no child has died in a school fire in decades due to upgrades in fire security systems. Yet when 20 kids are killed in a schools shooting we can't wrap our heads around the simple fact that we need to do more than just ban guns. That is about as useless as banning arson. How would banning fire save lives when the fire is raging inside the school? Kids drilled in atomic bomb response in the 50's. Im sure that was traumatic but that whole generation endured the drills. The threat of an atomic bomb was enough to justify the drills. Active shooters are a modern day atomic bomb or massive fire. If we do nothing but write paper laws to deal with them instead of instilling "physical" responses...we shouldn't be shocked at the next mass murder. Yes there will be another regardless of any law you write. Look at what happened yesterday in Pittsburg. 20 kids were stabbed. Nothing will ever stop a crazy person except "use of force". Guns may not be the answer, but what about 10 or 20 teachers with tasers? Concealed and trained to use them properly. When there is a mountain lion or bear loose in urban sprawl areas we use tranquilizer guns. Again, 10 or 20 teachers with tranquilizer guns and the will to protect kids is a force to be reckoned with. Of course, anti gun liberals will make an excuse to deny a non-lethal option too because they live in a fantasy world where they think a piece of paper will protect them.

[@zammmerjammer]

mixflip Uh, no. We live in countries with sane weapons laws and a populace that isn't so paranoid and aggressive toward each other that the murder of a dozen of our fellow citizens by guns every day no longer even makes the news. But yeah, more guns. Because when you're drowning, the solution is more water.

[@shananagans5]

zammmerjammer And? Can you show me any country, city, or state that has reduced the overall murder rate with gun laws? Any? Anywhere? Sorry to burst your bubble but the criminology literature is full of studies with proper methodology & gun laws do shift violence patterns a bit (towards non-participatory victims) but they don't reduce overall murder rates. Have you ever spent an afternoon looking through the literature? You might want to if you truly care about effective public policy.

[@mixflip]

zammmerjammer Are you ok letting good citizens carry tazers to defend themselves against the next massacre?

[@armadilo8a]

maybe not every teacher can carry a gun but why shouldn't every teacher know how to disarm, that seems like a better skill to learn

[@Phannokyo]

***** better to know how to disarm them than to not know shit at all.

[@XtarShoter]

***** Teach them self defense and gun disarming. Result: Maniac gets his ass beat up.

[@topsnek4548]

You're not always gonna be close enough to disarm, the assailant could hit you before you're even close enough to disarm.

[@XtarShoter]

Zach Giannopoulos Yeah I agree. They should carry tasers instead of guns though.

[@SoapBoxPrepper]

Unfortunately the debate over guns and school safety isn't governed over rational perspectives. Best statement ever.

[@lucasromero9377]

"we will protect their children" said the teacher with the pistol lol yes sir thats how it should be nationwide

[@meowdalachow7932]

kids shouldn’t see a gun in a classroom that’s not right we gotta protect the kids but that’s not why

[@trevorlefiles8633]

@@meowdalachow7932 no. You wrong.

[@1Jmeza209]

I feel shes saying it just so parents can be oh il send my kid their $$$$

[@owenkaufman6793]

I want to go to that school

[@slyjokerg]

+Owen Kaufman You shouldn't. It is a cult school.

[@electronicdawg]

+slyjokerg What cult would that be?

[@slyjokerg]

+Electronicdawg Ordinarily, I would dismiss that as a facetious, rhetorical question, but there are so many clueless rubes these days, I will answer. The cult is the "Guns, guns, guns" cult. It's members masturbate to posters of Ted Nugent. They only think about being able to shoot people who irritate them. They don't care about what their beliefs mean in the big picture. They are childish, selfish twits who think it is reasonable for the law to be that, essentially, whoever feels like it should be able to arbitrarily prance around in public with guns. They think that more guns is always the answer. They are brainwashed zombies who think that anyone who says a word about ANY rational gun control is someone who simply wants to ban all guns. They are crazed, obsessed gun "walkers" who are (usually unknowingly) doing the bidding of gun manufacturers, via the NRA's directives. That is the cult about which you asked.

[@evilizedempire9500]

+slyjokerg I think prepare something is better than nothing, because that is why Japanese kids always are training about the earthquake. By the way, I have somewhat different idea, because I've never seen some logical gun control argument yet. Nobody think an argument about 30 magazine clip half second joking is rational. In many case school is gun free zone, and if the shooter coming, who would block that? Do not say that if gun control that idiot gun hater who cannot identified differences between semi auto and assault rifle and cosmetic ban could make a MAGIC of changing semi auto to full auto. I want to ask, very practical way. I think the people in the video do something best that they could do, because if the local LE does not have enough manpower, nobody can control the free of gun free zone, and if the budget of school is not quite enough, it is hard to hire an armed guard for protecting children.

[@evilizedempire9500]

+slyjokerg And I'm very sorry about that, even somebody's truly stupid Ar15 demonizing fetish would be turned to a real gun control, The mass shooting will conducting will be in same feature, and gun free zone is remaining a hunting free zone. The reason is simple because gun grabber's illusion is if some strong law hold the gun mass shooter will not get the gun. It is real fantasy, because they would get the gun in any way, any method, and with any price. Or slightly change their strategy, for instance torch the school and waiting for escaping people with some knives, axe or whatever they can hold. Do you think it is delusional? if you know, what happen in Seoul, 2008, you cannot say that. The change of killing tool can make a change of strategy, but it could not make stop the murders, because it is just time issue that how to build a new strategy with a new tools for killing people. There are nothing rational in the gun grabber's fantasy, and not good enough detail for making a logic. Their own stupidity is reason of failure.

[@skaf008]

Now explain to me why Muslim shouldn't hate America?

[@jordanalejandro1345]

Because not every American is responsible. Especially now, a lot of people who are now teens and in their 20's were either not born at the time, or too little to understand or even know about hat was going on.

[@aStealthyElfy]

zeg_d13 and where do you think the military's money comes from certainly doesn't grow on trees.

[@jordanalejandro1345]

VallenGdaddy It's not like youvhave much of a choice when it comes to paying taxes. It doesn't matter whether you agree with how your government is spending the money; it's either pay taxes or go to prison. And with that, even the people who don't agree with the war(s) and activly protest, still involuntarily contribute to footing the bill. And then we go back to KIDS. They don't pay taxes, and I highly doubt a 5 year old cares that much, or could even point out Iraq on a map.

[@Squishdabomb]

***** Dylan Chance Both of you shut up. Don't blame either race. It is the fault of your nation as a whole. You live in a shitty country and it is because of all of you. Not because of any one single man or his race.

[@landry665]

unga bunga

[@TehGoldenFX]

Don't worry Iraqi people, this uranium will bring you democracy !

[@ringmaster627]

what if one of the teachers lose there shit and went on a killing spree

[@ringmaster627]

well to be honest you never know what could really happen in this world theres alot of fucking crazy people on earth who just give any fucks about anything so simmer down dude

[@Patrick2345454]

Dr.GreenTheSmoking Machine It's called Google... it's free, and not that hard to use. I just want you to stop making up scenarios in your head and come up with some facts. True, you never know what could happen, but that isn't always a bad thing. You don't stay inside and hide under your bed everyday, do you?

[@ringmaster627]

who lit the fucking fuse on your tampon dude calm down. and no i dont hide under my fucking bed everyday

[@Patrick2345454]

Dr.GreenTheSmoking Machine You sound like someone who does. Are you a man or a mouse?

[@ringmaster627]

fuck you nigga, u take everything to the damm heart and im a man btw fuckboy Patrick2345454

[@dionjames103]

Wow everybody talking about teacher carrying but ignores the fact that kids are suffering from the after effects of the war in Iraq...wow

[@AoxPanda15]

That principle is awesome.

[@imsirious21]

they attempt in this video to suggest that cops undergo extensive training with their guns, and its simply not true in most cases.

[@MrSolLeks]

+jake gallagher yea... So, a few years ago (5? I don't remember exactly) I was at the range with my dad. We started talking to a guy in another lane (People at ranges tend to be the most friendly people you will meet) and started talking about the different guns we had. He had some 9mm pistol that was only available to police, and he was an off duty officer. He offered to let us fire it and I got better groupings on his target with his pistol and I have no professonal training. I don't say that to brag, I say that with a sad face. A cop, who's job includes carrying a firearm, should be a better shot than a guy who only goes to the range ever so often (because ammo is expensive) to pratice as a hobby.

[@imsirious21]

i remember reading a statistic showing a 30%-70% hit miss ratio for officers who fire their weapons on duty. in theory, 70% are potential stray bullets. asside from that, handguns require megatons of experience just to use safely in a tactical situation. most officers dont have that muscle memory.

[@MrSolLeks]

jake gallagher agree, I don't think I even have that kind of muscle memory, but I do think cops should get a lot more training, and mandatory range time with department given ammo that is the same as their duty ammo so they can develop that muscle memory.

[@showtime1235]

+jake gallagher oh boy u watch the news a lot don't u?!?😂😂 Lemme guess Fox News

[@bratz2]

+Showtime_Kick123 Why do you say that? The statistics that he mentioned are FBI stats dumb ass!

[@manuelrocha9762]

Nobody's gonna mess around at that school. I'm glad to see these teachers love their students enough to protect them. I'd feel good about sending my kids to this school.

[@MrVideoyoulike]

always think of this would you rather have a good guy with a gun a minute away or a good guy with a gun a mile away?

[@Redasurc]

Minute

[@daniwalker1268]

Vice you are the best. Bringing real information, objectively, and willing to go where others are afraid to go to bring the truth out, for free. You educate and to inform us all, the generations that will eventually take over this world. From all of your viewers, Sincerely, Thank you.

[@bugxmusic]

Very well spoken! I can only back you up on that one

[@Blockhead140]

"Training kids to be vigilantes." . . . is this lady serious? They're training kids on how to defend themselves. BIG difference.

[@michaelmckesson6997]

+Albert Wesker Why didn't you know if you defend yourself your a vigilante. HAHAHA It's a crazy world.

[@evilizedempire9500]

+Michael Mckesson What is differences between Japanese kids' earthquake training and this training? It is just different that what incident happens. And training something is better than nothing, even little more.

[@michaelmckesson6997]

I have no problem with them training.

[@rubinephiljames]

Michael Mckesson this is simply self defence ...and no offence to a potential offender which in essence is the true meaning of the word 'vigilante'

[@discountgamervids]

This brought tears to my eyes. I'm heartbroken by the pain these babies are having to endure😢

[@tobuscusfoop]

This is honestly tight af

[@ARCHIBALDHAX]

I think the whole thing with teaching kids to defend themselves and others are great. That old lady though. I wouldn't trust her weak shaking hands with a butter knife.

[@Suburbannite]

No matter what any Liberal tells you, your natural right to self defense trumps whatever "feelings" they may have about guns. REFUSE TO BE A VICTIM

[@paidtroll1782]

Suburbannite your my spirt animal

[@madfadedbaby782]

woah! black chick talking about shooting purse snatchers! thought we was talking about school staff being able to protect there students! not taking the life of a petty theif stealing your purse!

[@clininemills3059]

your a fucking waste of skin!! the point here is there people who are not waiting until something happens, they are being proactive teaching the kids what may same them one day. Meanwhile your making silly ass remarks in reference to blacks and crime.

[@madfadedbaby782]

clinine mills woah! slow your roll! for one I said black cause she is black and I didn't want to take the time to watch the film a second time just to learn her name. For two, I all for staff members with guns protecting the school, I am very pro gun. But even as a pro gun person, I don't think its right to be wanting to shoot someone for snatching your purse! do you think a petty thieve deserves to be shot to death. Not sure how ya got the notion that im making refrences to blacks and crime lol read a book and stay of youtube its making your brain turn to mush apparently.

[@hattricki8845]

clinine mills Lol get over yourself.

[@HanKSN101]

Jack Williams Fucked up ain't it... can't even say the world Black and have it not sound racist. Oh and it's hella funny to me that all this "safety and love" is given to children but, as soon as that child goes from elementary to intermediate, your on your own.. don't worry about the crazy man with a gun, focus on the bully that will make your child commit suicide.

[@willhughes5846]

clinine mills *You're

[@theironduke7653]

Teachers wear pistols on their hips because police show up after a crime has taken place, not before.

[@baronvonwolf1457]

We rather live with dangerous freedom than live helpless and vulnerable here in America, when seconds count the police are minutes away. Ultimately why pro gun Americans defend the Second Amendment is because the second Amendment is the ultimate fail safe against tyranny in this country.

[@calliphoridaediptera9516]

Good luck fighting tanks and stealth bombers with your petty handguns.

[@baronvonwolf1457]

Ever heard of guerrilla warfare? The Arabs and Vietnamese did it pretty well, the idea of the man owning guns is to have them semi competent with guns so they can form a resistance or fortify the state militia in time to fight a tyrannical force, then it is just a matter of waiting for the right moments.

[@calliphoridaediptera9516]

Yes, I've heard of guerilla warfare. Problem is that wont work very well when fighting an iron fist tyranny.

[@4chanpol862]

Calliphoridae Diptera You need to read up on some Sun Tzu IRA defeated the brits with a positive kill death ratio, seemed to work pretty well for them. The Viet Cong defeated the US with asymmetric warfare, both politically and conventionally. You have to remember, all those tanks, drones, and stealth bombers are useless against guerilla's in the US mainland as the political backlash of bombing a city block with a hellfire missile would cost you the war instantly. Thats implying the US military would even fight a war with the US citizens in the first place, service members aren't mindless automatons they can choose to say no to a order.

[@calliphoridaediptera9516]

RedArmy Bro You need to read my post again. You refer to modern history and there you fail. read some more history. The romans knew how to deal with rebels, they poisioned wells and burned crops. Point is, the American guerilla made out of the fat and obese wont do well agaist professional soldiers.

[@DrBurgerThechimping]

4:21 did my boy not listen

[@BriBellaROX]

This woman is amazing. Training and preparing our children for the REAL world, is of utmost importance.

[@kahunamcd1]

Damn and I'm watching this four years later. Crazy shit.

[@bananian]

I have to say every school should be prepared like this regardless of whether people are for or against gun laws. Nothing wrong with being prepared.

[@bananian]

The kids aren't carrying guns, lol.

[@bananian]

I'm pretty sure it's illegal for the kids to be armed at school.

[@kountershock777JS]

"Take my purse, take everything that's in it!" She screams as a volley of 40mm grenades bellows against the ground "Take it"

[@BhudhaLovesBudlight]

Dodgeball in this school: "If you can dodge a bullet, you can dodge a ball"

[@bryancloutier5665]

Its never too early to instill fear and paranoia in our youth.

[@chrismccloy5045]

Fear has kept our species alive since the beginning. So you can act all high and mighty and above fear, but when something happens and your pompous bs fueled poker face fails you its gunna be someone like me or those kids who save your ass.

[@louish2809]

You do realize that those kids stated that they were not afraid and actually felt safer, right?

[@chrismccloy5045]

Yea exactly, fearing that something might happed to them they prepared themselves for anything. Like I said fear, even the idea of something fearful, has kept us and most other intelligent life alive for the better part of forever.

[@Klogger]

Guns are like airbags. You can ask if most drivers need them. They say yea, and you ask why? Is it because you're a bad driver? They will most likely say no. And then you ask them again why do they need airbags? "well I'm not a bad driver but I want to be safe, but if somebody crashes into me, I'm happy I had airbags."

[@brickwallbirdhockey7292]

Great analogy

[@austenklein8004]

+Kerry Verish Airbags will not accidentally shoot you in the face.

[@Klogger]

Austen Klein but they have been known to go off and hurt people when nothing but a kick in the bumper activated it. But anyone looking down the muzzle of a loaded gun should probably not be handling one

[@notlookinforahug]

More children accidentally drowning in pools or being accidentally shot each year? I rest my case.

[@bratz2]

+Austen Klein Guns will not accidentally shoot you in the face either if you know how to handle them. Guns aren't living things, they require human interaction to operate. I learned gun safety from a young age and have shot for a long time (44) and guess what? Amazing! I'm still here!!

[@des_da_demon4483]

That principle a real street nigga

[@brianlangieri6723]

Know your rights or lose them. It's always nice to want to ban shit until they come to ban what you like.

[@slyjokerg]

+That one guy How typical. Who said anything about banning guns, kiddo?

[@brianlangieri6723]

slyjokerg Banning "assault weapons' professor dumbass

[@slyjokerg]

+That one guy I see. So you think there is a rational, intellectually honest basis for it to be legal for essentially whoever feels like it to own assault weapons, eh? Btw, knowing your rights is not what determines whether or not you have them, AND something being a right doesn't mean that it SHOULD be a right, Captain Moron. Oh, and ummmm, again... Who said anything about banning guns, including assault weapons? Who in this video mentioned it? At what time in the video was it said? Why did you bring it up, dumbass?

[@zach1709]

+slyjokerg buttmad liberal detected, this is america where citizens have a right to bear arms nobody gives a shit if you don't like it because it's a constitutional right.

[@slyjokerg]

+zach LOL. What a typically childish tactic to rely on calling someone a liberal, as if that wins you anything. What a pathetic cop out. It is especially stupid to do so WHEN THE PERSON YOU ARE TRYING TO LABEL WITH THAT IS NOT A LIBERAL. Moron. Also typically idiotic from a mindless gun nut... the "It's legal" drivel you just used as an argument. Something being legal doesn't mean it SHOULD be legal. Something being a Constitutional right doesn't mean it SHOULD be a Constitutional right, dipshit. Slavery used to be legal. That didn't mean that it should have been legal any more than it being legal to arbitrarily prance around in public with guns means that it should be legal to engage in that falsely macho activity. Saying that something is currently legal doesn't do anything to demonstrate that it should be legal, kiddo.

[@paulbc]

thanks for the good work.

[@EAS573182]

To be honest, I kind of agree with the administrators at this school. We teach our kids what to do when there is a fire or when there is a tornado, but we're afraid of teaching them how to respond to a more dire threat? No one is telling these kids to become vigilantes or anything like that, so that's a moot point made by Ms. Weingarten. All they are doing is teaching these kids how to respond, so the loss of life can be minimized or completely avoided.

[@JanusCamillus]

This is the Vice I wanna see !

[@jreed136]

Shootings don't happen enough for this to be necessary. Good grief.

[@jreed136]

nguyen danny Fires generally aren't a form of violence. Fires happen more often than school shootings. We shouldn't be teaching paranoia to our children.

[@jreed136]

nguyen danny The people who work at malls are adults. There's a difference. I'm sorry you went through that nonsense. If you can't see how fucked up it all is, then it's too late for you.

[@jamesenloe277]

Then why do you need a fire extinguisher in your house?

[@jreed136]

James Enloe That is also a moronic comparison. Sorry.

[@jreed136]

nguyen danny And the fear of another human being with a gun is there in their minds, and they pass that onto others. Violent crimes have been nothing but going down, but we still run around like chickens with out heads cut off, acting like the sky is falling. If you want to keep children, and the citizens of your country in a state of fear - and cannot see how fucked up it is that we NEED to have drills for school shootings, then you're a lost cause. And comparing it to needing a fire extinguisher... You people.

[@Runeless]

"They're dead meat. Ok??" Lol...that sweet old lady XD

[@mysuperblog]

It's so fucked up that kids even have to learn about a situation where they might be shot at, why are there so many guns in USA.

[@Beavereaver]

I'm the kind of person that when i see shit happening to someone i jump in the deep to help out. i am going to teach my kids to be the same way. if they die saving someone else's life then thats an honorable way to die. "There is no greater love than to lay down one's life for one's friends" John15:13. Thats Christianity.

[@xXPuNkRoCkRulesXx]

You're the kind of Christian we need more in life.

[@Beavereaver]

xXPuNkRoCkRulesXx thank you very much,

[@calliphoridaediptera9516]

You are going to teach your kids to die in honorable ways? People like you should never have children.

[@xXPuNkRoCkRulesXx]

Oh yeahhh sure. cause people like YOU who tell others don't deserve children should get kids right? How other people raise their kids, frankly, is none of your business. Just because you don't agree with something doesn't mean it's wrong.

[@Beavereaver]

Calliphoridae Diptera lol I'm going to teach my kids to be heroes, something u have know nothing about. this world needs heroes it doesn't need more stupid like u.

[@brianh2447]

If the pastor had loaded that .45 while I was interviewing him I would've shit my pants, ha ha

[@ricardograjeda4327]

what is the song at the end of the video?

[@XtarShoter]

Ok so some of us agree and disagree with giving guns to teachers. In my opinion, giving them tasers and teaching them to how to disarm guns would be a way better idea.

[@Tuton25]

Why not do it all and cover more grounds...

[@michael_fassbender]

bullet>tazer with 10ft range

[@XtarShoter]

ClaytonH339 Yeah because the teacher is going to be 50ft away from that door in a 100 x 100 ft classroom

[@michael_fassbender]

or maybe at the other end of a normal size room, or in a hallway. Why did you have to go to an extreme? Ten feet isn't very far.

[@XtarShoter]

Why would a teacher stay at the end of a normal sized room if they can be 10 feet away from the door and down anybody that comes it with a gun ? Why the fuck would a teacher stay in a hallway ? have you ever been to a school ? Teachers lock their students inside, they don't Rambo the hallways. P.S I was being sarcastic.

[@ilovetheusers]

I don't get the people against training students to fight an active shooter. The present day philosophy is to lock the classroom doors and hide, which helps no one. A person with a rifle or shotgun will take out the locks on a door in seconds and will then have a nice set of bundled targets to shoot at. Having armed response inside the schools, as much as that leaves a bad taste in some folks mouth, is the only answer to this sort of issue. Want to stop a shooter, send bullets back in their direction. You can't reason with people who try to kill dozens of other people for no decent reason.

[@razr190]

Exactly, the one defense these people has is that the doors can protect against bullets, which is bull. Once they get through that door, we have a tonne of dead kiddies. Just one fucking armed teacher could stop that. Nobody listens to reason mate.

[@494Ibrahim]

I couldn't even finish the second part, war really is hell.

[@Adamorevo]

Extreme situation require an extreme response.

[@thethreeamazingmen]

wish i got tactical training for pe :( although we did do martial arts...so that was awesome anyways

[@Squishdabomb]

High Schoolers? These kids look like they are barely ten years old!

[@thestig3163]

Probably a primary school ranging to a high school.

[@111axa1]

***** ...Others say the Stig is but an enigma. A figment of our imagination, meant to guide us through the relentless antics of Shane Smith and Fegelein. Others say it's just the paint I inhale during autoerotic asphyxiation but hey...

[@damienbouhours9752]

I think it is amazing that kids learn how to protect themselves, even outside of school it also helps ! It is great for them also to feel included as a team of students, proud to defend the most vulnerables ones. I think it must also be something that prevents bullying.

[@TheMagicalwispers]

Within the first few second I learned something about disarming an attacker. I want to say thank you for showing me. I am now equip with the knowledge to make a difference should I ever be in that type of situation of a mass shooter.

[@mark97213]

People seem to believe the premise; ONLY if you've been "weapon trained" (i.e. Police, Military, etc.) then and ONLY then, should you be allowed or even capable, to use a gun in real life. There IS NO real life 'weapon training,' it doesn't exist. Doesn't matter WHO you are, you're no more 'trained' than anyone else that hasn't been in a gun fight. The police and the military train in firing rounds at various targets and other gimmicky modalities but in reality, they are no more 'trained' than anyone else that hasn't been in a gun fight. There is no training for targets that are moving, human and firing a lethal dose of lead right back atcha'... !

[@tomdevine6639]

paintball

[@stevencorry5790]

Tom Devine Lol,good point.I know there's not the possibility of death but it does put one in a combat scenario.

[@mark97213]

Tom Devine uhhh... not even close. Even though it's fun and it builds' your skills... it's a dead comparison from the start. You know in your mind that after your done, you're going to get in your car and drive home. The closest you can get to real training is when that first chunk of lead whizzes by your ear. Then, you can say you've been trained. You just might not be alive to actually train anyone else.

[@stevencorry5790]

Okay G.I Joe

[@mark97213]

Steven Corry LOL... What, no argument? It's because... there is no argument... you have to attack the messenger. Doesn't that get old? lol

[@perrymoorej]

I would send my children to this school. i multi cultural students, a method of morality and reality... I'm empressed.

[@slyjokerg]

+john perry Moore ... POSTED: **I would send my children to this school. i multi cultural students, a method of morality and reality... I'm empressed.** The "morality" depicted here is deplorable, the antithesis of reality is being imagined and assumed, and... ummm... I for one am not *IM*PRESSED with whatever schools you attended.

[@bratz2]

+slyjokerg What??? You're an idiot!

[@slyjokerg]

+bratz2 ... POSTED: **+slyjokerg What??? You're an idiot!** As I already explained to you in another thread, you not liking what I say doesn't change the fact that my IQ is rather high.

[@legoman7041]

What's the song used during the shooting range scene?

[@kraftuber]

VICE, keep on creating and producing these kinds of eye-opening and mind blowing documentaries, I just hope that as you get bigger and better in the world of journalism, that the way you make your reports doesn't get affected by corrupt politicians, giant private companies, P.R. businesses or basically MONEY. Keep up the good work on presenting truthful documentaries and factual reporting... MORE POWER TO VICE! :)

[@CommanderFoxTV1992]

it's fine to see everybody hiding behind their guns that's the american dream

[@misterbig7398]

Ur dam right boy

[@Stewie111111111]

Any military power should be carefully controlled by the people and media, not just by the politicians.

[@JeTaimeIsrael]

The people might not know any better.

[@aramishkhanyan3266]

ILove Israel I agree with you my friend! From Russia with Love to Israel!

[@JeTaimeIsrael]

Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez Listen bro, before throwing the world 'retarded' around for no reason, try recognizing the fact that we really don't know the big picture yet, as much as we've been introduced to portions of it over the years, I think there's a huge fragile political infrastructure that the average people just can't handle. I'm not saying you're inferior in anyway, I just think we are underestimating what's really going on. On the other hand I might be wrong.

[@ptie6837]

That principal looked terrified shooting that gun. She absolutely SHOULD NOT be firing a gun in a school regardless of the scenario. That would only make things more dangerous

[@Caleyfan86]

this is the darkest thing I've ever seen in my life. I pray for the families of those affected by the fighting in Iraq. god give them strength.

[@olliephelan]

Just turning these kids into FEAR filled recruits !!!

[@ThisCandyLand]

I didnt know guys with nerf guns give PTSD

[@olliephelan]

RedstomeGamingVideos whats a nerf gun ?

[@ThisCandyLand]

Oliver Phelan a fake gun toy company for kids.

[@olliephelan]

RedstomeGamingVideos Thats interesting . Colour it purple or pink for kids , and they dont think of death , blood and smashed bone . Very thoughtful of them

[@fasiistyrer]

What America did in Fallujah.. If there is a God, he has a special kind of hell waiting for you.

[@mrdannyhbakks]

McDigger Kit he's not American bruh I'm sure he is one of the people who doesn't understand that America does more for the world than any other country out there period. He has no respect for our men and women who have died to protect not only my country and my children but also every other country that cannot protect themselves.

[@mrdannyhbakks]

Your a piece if shit

[@fasiistyrer]

Danny B I have respect for a lot of the things America does. But not the Iraq war. They had done nothing to you.

[@fasiistyrer]

Drew Pollinger And you go back to being "exceptional" at murdering people.

[@BigStrath]

You are a loser Frederik. The Iraqis had done nothing to whom? The kurdish people who were murdered and gassed by the thousands? The Kuwaitis who were invaded by the Iraqi army? Or maybe your are talking about Al Qaeda who we fought in Iraq who killed Sunnis and Shias to inflame sectarian violence. Who drove planes full of innocent civilians into buildings killing over 3,000 Americans. The world is not black and white, and no one gives a fuck what you think.

[@pinoy51289]

This principal sounds like she was belittled her whole life and now that she has a gun she feels powerful. These are exactly the people we don't need having guns

[@kingdavis890]

Heartbreaking

[@arnoldginting845]

the pastor has a point, they need to defend themselves when it happen

[@lordblazer]

This school is insane. I wish they understood that guns are for killing. Guns are for killing. This is not political ideology. a gun is a weapon and a weapon is designed to kill. I wish people understood this more. Once they do they will have much better respect for firearms. We live in a world ironically where people feel they can rely on a firearm.

[@dragoncustomcycles]

a rifle/gun is a tool. i shoot paper. my rifle has not killed a single thing.

[@FormalRevolutionary]

I'm a notoriously left wing person, feel free to check my comment history and if you want I'll give you my blog, I was liberal about guns like you for years. My position changed to making it the only thing I am conservative on when I began to consider new perspectives on self preservation and gun ownership ethics. I live in Alberta, Canada where guns are just as common as in most states in America and yet gun violence is half as common. Its true these are nonetheless weapons solely built for killing things. But as an objective person I realize the realities of society and can say that I no more blame gun ownership but rather gun sensationalizing. Its the affinity many Americans have with guns that causes so much fanaticism and violence. I'm not advocating an every day concealed carry for all citizens like some whack jobs but there is power to non denominational vigilantes, individuals that are prepared and willing but LOOKING for a fight. There is a power to having an armed force, like I said I'm hardly conservative but there is merit to he empowerment of a people and the self defense ethics that may serve to show the level of commitment people have to their communities. I don't think an armed patrol is going to help but if guns are treated like bloc parent programs where people are ready to utilize them in a castle situation. Used and safely stored in ballistic safes they can be adopted to serve people rather than mythicize them into fun little things that are shiny and go boom.

[@DangerousDan762]

They Do understand it, dumbass. They carry guns so that they can KILL a lunatic who gets into the school to attack children. Dead bad guys are better than dead children by a long shot. But maybe you'd prefer to explain to an armed attacker that guns are for killing and killing is bad. Maybe you would prefer to disarm the law-abiding and leave them defenseless to criminals with illegal guns, explosives, firebombs, blunt objects, etc, curled up in the fetal position and dying while waiting for the police to get their shit together, because in your sick fucking worldview, being prepared to defend yourself and those around you is insane, and indoctrinated helplessness in the face of deadly evil makes perfect sense.

[@oneplanetinreview]

Firearms are used for many things, and killing is one of them. This is true. However, we live in a day and age where there are bad people using many types of tools as weapons to bring harm to people. If we can balance the scale by teaching and training our educators in schools and our children then we are one step ahead of the bad guy. In a society where the bad guy does not know who is armed or not, is a society that WILL see less killings in schools and other public places. It is a fact, an unfortunate one, but nevertheless it is a fact. facebook.com/groups/responsiblegunowners/

[@FormalRevolutionary]

***** I think the problem is the confusion between paranoia and gun fanaticism and personal conviction, responsibility and the merit of being prepared rather than vulnerable. Yes there are gun nuts out there who are insane and patrolling their neighborhood and shooting black kids. That does not also mean that there are no practical reasons to own a firearm. I'm mostly left wing myself but too many liberals today do not seem to understand that there are perceived evils yes but there are also very real evils that may be unexpected. The condom philosophy is perfect logic, I would rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. May personal defense never suffer at the actions of sadists. You don't have to be an NRA member to realize that making all guns illegal would not end gun violence, psycho public shooters will stop at nothing to do what they want, a lack of license wont stop criminals from buying illegal guns.

[@georgejuarez996]

As a former LEO and having spent almost 50 years in the field, Officers do not get years of training in their field. Academies are anywhere from 12 weeks to 16 weeks and then they go on training in the field by a Field Training Officer for a few weeks and then you’re on your own. Every year you have to get some training to keep up your certification which includes qualifying at the pistol range any other training you want you have to do on your own time. Most Officers don’t have the time to get extra training as they have to work over time or extra security details in order to make enough money to support their families, Police Officers have a high rate of divorce because of the time they spent away from home working and because of the stress of their jobs

[@nateone6632]

That school superintendent took a beating when disarmed lol

[@jaimececena8928]

The principle is a savage.

[@chriswhite6882]

savage af... I'll put respekt on that

[@septicguns7017]

your profile is gonna give me a nightmare

[@SolidCuerno]

I would send my child to this school in a heart beat. Just like you send your money to the bank and expect your money to be protected.

[@jennifersalas3857]

"Im not paranoid, I'm ready" Beautiful.

[@dh7164]

Is it just me or do all Vice journalists look and sound like they're stoned and hungover?

[@tECZ000000rZ]

what a terrible school

[@razr190]

How so?

[@xcanini]

Antony Van Cleave Preparing kids for a murder encounter. Im just glad i dont live in murica. Im fine in my gun-free european country.

[@razr190]

Can Taskin No country is gun free. I could go to whatever communist shithole you live in and pick up some guns from the hood. Gun control can't stop ANYONE from getting guns. Just let people have em legally.

[@xcanini]

No you cant. The yearly gun crimes are below one here... It seriously seems bizarre to look at the US, and see how common guns are.

[@razr190]

Can Taskin Where do you live exactly?

[@TheTwylightWolf]

years of training lol as if. these kids are probably more trained then most police

[@slyjokerg]

+claron plays I hope they are more "trained" THAN you are in English. LMAO

[@TheTwylightWolf]

slyjokerg no im pretty sure training was right .... but im sure these kids are better at English the point is ?.

[@slyjokerg]

+claron plays LOL. The point was that your stupid ass said "...more trained then most police." THAN, dumbass, not THEN. Of course, this "training" is barely above "useless." None of what they are pretending will happen is actually going to happen, both in regard to it going down how they imagine, and in the sense that there is essentially no chance such an incident will occur at this school. It is a fantasy to think that this play acting crap is ever going to stop someone from shooting up a school. It is a joke.

[@TheTwylightWolf]

slyjokerg a grammar nazi classic always arrogant and getting off topic. i believe the training could be useful in a shooting situation as useful as anything to prevent a shooting i suppose. while it may be true a shooting is super rare and not that big of a deal people refuse to treat it as such anywhere so why not go over board here to.

[@slyjokerg]

+claron plays It isn't about being a grammar nazi, kiddo. It was a bit ironic that you tried to imply something being deficient about others when you don't even know the difference between then/than. I wasn't implying anything about the topic of the video, other than to expose that the people that are commonly stomping their feet about gun rights are uneducated jackasses. As far as the "training" goes, it is absurd to think that putting these children through bullshit drills in which there is ZERO chance of ANY type of harm to anyone would be useful in a situation in which someone comes into a school (UNANNOUNCED) with an assault weapon. That would be true even if there was some sort of basis to think it actually might happen, and of course, there isn't. This is nothing but a matter of gun nuts trying to instill gun nut mentality into children. It is the same type of brainwashing that occurs re: religion, and what do you know... this is also a religious school.

[@MeanToTheMug]

whats also stopping a kid from taking a teachers gun and using it? and if its locked up what happens if the teacher is unable to unlock the where the gun being held and the gunman comes to his/her classroom?

[@pashka509]

good job guys !

[@zedfury887]

You can't substitute for the years of training law enforcement officers get....wow. They aren't substituting anything, they are supplementing it. No matter how you spin it those kids are going to be on their own while the professionals mobilize. Teaching a class full of kids that is about to be gunned down how to give themselves a fighting chance is doing them a favor. How twisted we have become where teaching people how to defend themselves has become the wrong choice.

[@JohnBastardSnow]

It's a waste of time. Using the same logic, you would then have to waste time teaching people how to dodge a lightning. The probability of either thing happening is extremely low. If some of those people would want to learn self-defense, they can learn it individually. There is no reason to steal everybody's time to indulge in irrational phobias of some people. But, in any case, the school system itself is outdated and is an embodiment of inefficiency and irrationality.

[@lisakn27]

All schools should train for this. I don't see anything wrong with what they are doing.

[@slyjokerg]

+Kacey Then you aren't thinking clearly.

[@oregontrailrunner]

what's wrong with teaching kids not to be a victim ?

[@GramoChopin]

2:29 Aha! LOL! She was just waiting to show someone that!