This Is What Winning Looks Like (Full Length)

[@richc848]

Some of the last words in this documentary from 2012: "You get the impression these guys are not going to last either, I mean certainly when they're on their own they're not going to last. I spoke to a few Afghan friends who've come from here and said, what do you think's gonna happen to these guys after we really leave? You know, half of them will join the Taliban, the other half will just vanish." Seems to have been pretty accurate.

[@desmondd1984]

Bang on.

[@salmanmehdi8480]

So damn true

[@urekmazino6800]

Waste of time of lives going there from the start

[@himas6363]

Hhxxxhxxxc 🎉hh 🎉hh 🎉hhc 🎉c 🎉hcy

[@mindfullofhatred6730]

@@urekmazino6800 LOL OK idiot. You went there to defeat and destroy The Taliban after overthrowing the islamic government that the taliban had established... You overthrew the taliban government easily because the Taliban had only one the Afghan Civil War a few years before 911 and the American invasion so the Taliban government was already fairly decentralized add unstable to begin with however the Taliban has a fighting force military enemy was much more capable and serious than their newly established government so you talk as if America went into Afghanistan and established this new government out of some humanitarian or general a city when in reality the u.s. is only establishing this new Afghan government because they needed to replace the Taliban government which helped Osama bin Laden and protected him during and after 9/11 you seem to talk as if you weren't defeated in Afghanistan that it's easy to blame the Afghan soldiers and policemen and governments because they're a bunch of criminals and corrupt useless sexy s*** which they are but what exactly do you think his was a waste of time about it America invaded Afghanistan overthrew the Taliban government and then what were they supposed to do afterwards just leave because it was a waste of time in your opinion and what did you think was going to happen when America left the Taliban were not defeated America couldn't defeat the Taliban after 20 years of war and you think that after America left that the Taliban were going to just give up and put away their guns and not take over the country again they took over the country after fighting America for 20 years it's the reason I'm emphasizing this is because it's annoying hearing Americans talk about how useless the Afghan military and police and government are which they are by the way I agree with that but Americans talk about it as if the new Afghan government that America established was somehow a humanitarian generous things that America was doing just out of the goodness of their heart the only reason you talk like that is cuz you don't really want to admit that America couldn't defeat the Taliban after 20 years of fighting America spent trillions of dollars thousands of soldiers got killed and injured tens of thousands are traumatized for the rest of their lives still having nightmares and flashbacks about suicide bombers and roadside bombs America had the most powerful weapons the most advanced technology unlimited money and resources and the Taliban had old Soviet AK-47s RPGs suicide bombs and roadside bombs and willingness to fight forever and have all of their soldiers. And after 20 years the Taliban with their old AK-47s and RPGs and suicide bombers defeated America with trillions of dollars and the most advanced military the world has ever seen after 20 years the Taliban many of whom can't read a right you were not doing anyone a favor you're trying to establish a new government that's you had control over and was loyal and obedient to you and would survive after you left and you failed the Taliban defeated America and the reason that all of the Afghan police and soldiers and politicians were all scumbags and criminals and useless facts of s*** we're because anybody who had a shred of dignity or honor or any sense of morality supported the Taliban

[@rustyshackleford17]

This was always one of Vice's best documentaries. Here we are almost a decade later and everything shown in this documentary came true. "Half will join the Taliban, half will just vanish." Explains perfectly what happened just a few days ago.

[@clipped6963]

I just don't get why they didn't join the taliban to begin with it was always going to happen eventually, as for the others theyre probably dead right? BUT don't the Afghan Police smuggle drugs for Taliban to sell?

[@jesusjones1024]

What minute mark was that quote? Edit: 1:27:40

[@dailydoseofmma1512]

@@clipped6963 here is a mind bliwng fact taliban is agaisnt drug trafficing during their previous reign they destroyed every ompium farm they could get its strictly forbidden in islam

[@mathhew7352]

Kelly!? :0

[@fubarsmith7003]

Shut up Kelly

[@ruchpat1]

26:04 “he’s still a warrior and he deserves to be treated like one even in death” that’s really a class act thing to say and do this guy is really respectable.

[@slaughter3165]

@ThisIsMyRealName are you trolling or has your iq barely reach double digits?

[@speakerscorner8727]

@gulag master wrong sharia law is law thus it is not oppression

[@youbetternotplaythatnashee898]

@gulag master fuck you.

[@bigfatminer5590]

@@speakerscorner8727 by that logic take it the Jews weren't oppressed in Nazi Germany then

[@adammazeli]

@@abdullahshoaib8072 so what taliban is the beacon of freedom??

[@Ironman829]

This should've won an award or many awards. Out of all the Vice docs I've seen, this is the best story telling. The editors and Ben deserve to be recognized.

[@p.b.4885]

One of the best, but because Major Stauber was there and telling the truth!!!

[@Pub2k4]

It won 1 award. But the content of the film made it undesirable for the people that give out those awards.

[@CrackerBarrel55]

...And this came out 10 years ago!

[@1ehvideos271]

At least it was content that for once Vice put out... that was NOT about "Pegging"! As it seems after the original years of Vice putting out good content... such as this film... they then went to complete garbage 🗑... allowing their staff to put out content about anything they wanted... with no consequences or accountability of any sort. They went down the route of doing "Reddit" stories... by placing someone in a mask... and having them read off the Reiddit Whistle-blowers threads... as though the person in the mask on camera 📷 was the actual Whistle-blower. Then they ventured into the drugs, sex, & other such content. Once they crossed the line into sex & drugs... they got stuck into the sex category... and just continued to put out content that had something to do with sex. And then they got into Pegging content... and just stayed there. All they talked about was Pegging for years. It seemed every 2nd article or video 📹 was about Pegging. That's when it all went to shat. No one wanted to see anything from Vice anymore. People were sick & tired of seeing content about a subject they had no interest in... being pushed all the time. And well... Vice had just stayed in the SHITTY media company category ever since then.

[@RedTail1-1]

Well... It's not actually from Vice.. It's from Ben Anderson, an Independent British Journalist. Vice is just interviewing him and showing footage from his Documentary of the same title "This Is What Winning Looks Like" So yeah... All Vice is doing is piggybacking off his work. They are basically documenting his documentary...

[@StockyDude]

When people ask why we lost in Afghanistan, we can just refer them to this documentary.

[@archibaldthesimple]

I have been.

[@Collins1118]

I watched this when it came out and never forgot it. I wondered if Vice was being overly dramatic but no seems like they were pretty bang on

[@StockyDude]

@@Collins1118 There were some Afghan soldiers and police who genuinely wanted to stop the Taliban and ensure a brighter future for Afghanistan, but they were so few compared to the druggies and child rapists. There was no good side led by good guys. I watched this documentary every year, wondering if there was a way to offer the Afghan people an alternative to the Taliban that wasn’t corrupt or abusive. Unfortunately, after the past few days, I figured that maybe Taliban rule was the best that Afghanistan could hope for. It’s sad, but Afghan society does not see human rights, women’s rights, or democracy as anything worth fighting for. We Americans need to accept that much of the world does not think like we do.

[@jamesbroomfield7799]

@@Collins1118 this documentary was the first thing I thought of once the Taliban emerging and the USA government kept saying the Afghan army was ready to fight and they have the best modern equipment etc. Lol. I laughed but not because it's funny because I know it's sad situation, but I laughed because I already knew what the outcome would be

[@kukuletiru7725]

вы там не проиграли .вы там просто опозорились ,когда из Афганистана ушли мы в 1989,режим Наджибулы 3 года ,и продержался бы еще ,если бы СССР не распался ,после себя мы оставили школы, больницы ,дома ,а что оставили вы!? героин разруху ,и кучу оружия которое досталась талибам

[@benjaminnoble2244]

Major Steuber's professionalism and restraint is incredible. It's hard to imagine the toll that tour took on him.

[@chucknutly3290]

Yes I feel for that man. You can really see it all in his face. Sometimes it looks like he's about to break down into tears or snap and get pissed off but he just keeps his composure. I hope he manages to put this mess behind him. He definitely earned a vacation after this in my opinion. I just want to shake his hand and embrace him after watching this. I don't really see a uniform when he's talking I just see a young man struggling with a bunch of inner turmoil desperately trying to grapple with the problem. He's a true gentleman in my opinion.

[@joeyisrad178]

Yeah I really hope he's cool/sane and alive/well these days.

[@johnbrennan4759]

The man's restraint was a thing to behold but I would like to think he may have mad some things go bang in the night for child rapists as he left

[@asphalt-cowboy9479]

Yeah im comfortable in admitting I'm not half the man that dude is. I don't have the temperament to hold myself back in that situation. If im in a war zone and I find out 100% for sure that someone is fucking and killing little boys they're not making it through the night.

[@lt.lasereyez8891]

The poor guy, ehm maybe don't be there invading/occupying nations? Fu ck =off and go drive a truck for a living or something.

[@eXiLe824]

What I gather from this documentary is the US-supported Afghani Military and Government never had the support of the Afghani people. They don't believe in it. For the Afghani soldiers, this is just a gig. They don't care about the missions any more than a Walmart cashier would care about the latest corporate sales push or quarterly earnings.

[@michlblacksmith]

Same people who cry for help all the time don't believe in it - hard to get ones head around this.

[@guccigucci5002]

usa could have been there 20 years and result would be the same. that wasnt an "army" they didnt even try to fight despite having 3x their number. they just wanted to collect their salaries. they folded instantly which shows it would never have worked no matter the time spent

[@jamesbroomfield7799]

@@guccigucci5002 keep in mind most these guys haven't been paid in long time so they resort to taking from the ppl or milking or extorting the civilians with false arrests etc. Which makes the civilian population hate the Afghan army and police force and is no wonder why the ppl welcomed the Taliban

[@chilliewhk]

@@jamesbroomfield7799 the whole system is broken from the top of the government right down to the police/soldiers. It was doomed to fail unless these people are willing to fix it themselves.

[@j0kerclash289]

@@jamesbroomfield7799 the documentary was saying that not only do they get paid, they also steal ammunition and claim oil funding on vehicles that are inoperable, they're getting paid and then some.

[@Subfightr]

It breaks my heart that this version of Vice will likely never be seen again.

[@stoneylikebologna2380]

I was literally coming here to say the same thing. This was amazing journalism, and I wish they had kept this up.

[@kumabear5061]

what happened

[@Subfightr]

​@@kumabear5061I believe they got too big for their britches. Big companies got involved and they ended up having to churn out so much content that it became diluted and went from VICE, to every other version of media we see today. I suspect they are ultimately owned by those who run mainstream media now a days, that was their plan all along, vice was a threat to mainstream media, a black sheep that was a hit with the people, a rogue. It's been reigned in and will never be allowed to be the rouge boots on the ground non biased media it once was. Or it will go extinct.

[@pepinlebref7585]

@@kumabear5061 they went woke

[@hopdig]

59:14 does anyone know the name of the piano song that is playing????

[@Metallicuss]

If anyone is wondering where Major Steuber is now...He was in command of a training battalion for Infantry-west from 2015-2016. He is healthy and alive.

[@luiscortex1326]

Metallicuss nice

[@RangKlos]

good news

[@M3gekje]

Thanks for letting us know!

[@MarkLeo9506]

update? please

[@CellarDoorx06]

Good. Hope this is still true.

[@Kotchilla]

The documentary describes very well the situation why it is possible that the taliban are able to reconquer the country so fast: As he says in the end: "half will join the taliban and the other half will just vanish"

[@gewurzgurkende2744]

just came here looking for this comment :D

[@coulombicdistortion1814]

Unfortunately, the concept of training a domestic military that has any chance against the Taliban through American interventionism was doomed from the start. That area of the world has been tribal for thousands of years. Trying to explain to them human rights is like trying to teach a fish about land. And since America had learned from its mistakes of the past of leaving weapons behind, it was impossible to equip them properly. I feel saddened that we gave hope to so many of the locals that they might have a stable and peaceful life, but ultimately the cost required to achieve that would've been a permanent American presence which politically was never feasible due to the cost. America got what it ultimately wanted after 9/11 which was the victory lap of killing a couple bad guys and that was all. Too bad it cost so much to kill them, we'd probably have been better off with some periodic air stikes to keep them hiding in their cave. Either way we had to leave eventually as the cost was so high, it wasn't working, and eventually we'll probably get into another war elsewhere and need the troops. It's unfortunate, but that part of the world has proven over and over and over that it simply will not modernize no matter how much help you try to give it.

[@StockyDude]

@@coulombicdistortion1814 I somehow think that Afghanistan would have been in a different situation if we spent the last 20 years making sure everyone had access to internet and smartphones. They would’ve been hooked on their smartphones and willing to fight to keep them. Now the Taliban will try to ban TV once again. We should’ve gotten the entire country hooked on technology and modernity.

[@coulombicdistortion1814]

@@StockyDude I don't disagree but that's also not as simple as you think. They only have TV's in the city's where they have electricity and communications. The vast majority of that country is just a desert with no infrastructure to speak of.

[@salamander4173]

@@coulombicdistortion1814 "that part of the world has been proven over and over and over that it simply will not modernize no matter how much help you give it" EXACTLY and wanna know why? -> The evil cult whose prophet you cannot even draw or you will be beheaded

[@therealding221]

Watching this it’s easy to see how the taliban is just running thru Afghanistan right now. Those “police” are useless. Especially the guy just wildly shooting down the street then asking for more ammo. Ridiculous

[@emergcon]

That fucker probably was taliban all along.

[@Sputnikcosmonot]

@@emergcon the scarier reality is that he probably wasn't.

[@bocabill2490]

with Alla's will his bullets will find their target. lol.

[@CalicoJoeJoe]

@@Sputnikcosmonot the scariest reality is how could anyone know?

[@guccigucci5002]

usa could have been there 20 years and result would be the same. that wasnt an "army" they didnt even try to fight despite having 3x their number. they just wanted to collect their salaries. they folded instantly which shows it would never have worked no matter the time spent

[@homelessknight4651]

Ben is such an awesome journalist. I really appreciate the danger he put himself through throughout this documentary in order to provide us with firsthand information on front-line reality.

[@psyjax2]

This doc has always stuck with me. Re-watching it now that Afghanistan has fallen to the Taliban. Remember coming away from this video thinking today would be the ultimate outcome. And so it is.

[@Collins1118]

Yeah I watched it when it came out on HBO? No maybe before. Anyway it has really stayed with me. And when the news of the withdrawal hit I thought of this and hoped that Vice was almost trying to paint it in a certain light but seems like,no. It is all pretty accurate. And very devastating.

[@spaceopera87]

And so it is.

[@ghulammurtaza1310]

when Right come the wrong wanish like in 2 months

[@Prensn]

same here

[@hamburgerchef1203]

Soviet-Afghan War

[@frankiebaby725]

“You guys are professionals, that’s why you don’t shoot into a crowd of people” “What did he say?”

[@phuckyoutube5927]

another guy was talking about having a child molester And sticking up for it

[@Eudaletism]

@@phuckyoutube5927 They probably also give drugs to the kids, stunting brain development. That might go some ways toward explaining how some of the adults end up the way they are in this video. Add in the entrenched culture of corruption, lack of education, apathy, tribalism, warlord police, and complex systems failure, and they didn't have a chance. And honestly, from their perspective, the apathy kinda makes sense. Which is better? Protracted civil war, in which your kid gets raped by the local police and your wife gets blown up by a mine, or stable oppression, in which your kid still gets raped and your wife still gets killed, but by the taliban? At least with the latter option you can go home if you play nice. 20 fucking years; some of those young adults have never known peace, let alone victory. Not to mention the people coming to "save" them don't worship the same God, which probably gives them serious doubts, since it's the most important thing in their life.

[@phuckyoutube5927]

@@Eudaletism they definitely do. I can't believe that's accepted Thier surely their holy book says something about that. I can't even thinking about it tbh

[@ShakaCthulu]

@@Eudaletism I believe the Taliban outlawed the practice of “bacha bazi”/pedophilia when they took over in the 90’s, and severely punished it. In many ways Taliban are better than the US puppet gov.

[@motosana1]

@@Eudaletism Most have stunted growth and poor brain development anyway mainly due to MALNUTRITION - add that to religious brainwashing and this is what you get. Sad.

[@macbrown99]

Who else coming back in August 2021 to remind themselves of the inevitable end we knew was coming nearly a decade ago?

[@MegaNicolemarie]

Me

[@mcman420]

right here!!! have had this doc saved since 2013 and its more prevalent now then ever before smfh

[@Bxconnect]

You mean nearly two decades. It’s been 18 years.

[@macbrown99]

@@Bxconnect I'm referring more to the moment we had all realized that there was no hope. In the earliest days, only those with a clearer understanding of the area and it's history were sure it was doomed to failure. By 2010-2013, the very idea of hope was laughable.

[@backstabboi4559]

Just here to laugh

[@Pub2k4]

If anyone is interested, Major Bill Steuber completed a triathlon in July of 2022. Between biking, swimming, and running, he did 130 miles in just under 16 hours.

[@freshcoffee69]

Hes such a nice person the world needs more like him

[@Luke-Hike]

Hey mate, thanks for the update. When I last watched this in 2015 I was still serving in the British Army so this doc hit hard. I was walking home from work today and I randomly thought of Major Steuber and decided to watch this again and luckily saw your comment 🇬🇧👍

[@sarahcomerford4607]

Praise God! God Bless Major Steuber and his family! Thank you for sharing this.

[@Dang3rMouSe]

That man's a machine🤖

[@helpimstuck9410]

I’ve watched this documentary about 4 times over the course of three years and I still have undying respect for Major Steuber. I wish I could personally thank him for his work and dedication to his country and for the lives of the Afghan people.

[@fuckyshityfuckshit]

Same im on my third watch now and it just breaks my heart

[@scisslehannd22]

I also come back to this doc maybe once a year or so. It serves as an eye-opening reminder of how bad things really are in some parts of the world... Cannot commend many of these Marines enough! Trying to do what's right even in a complete hell-scape. Was this war worth it? We are currently negotiating with the Taliban.

[@juicyjuicy6514]

Moneyxl00 True but maybe focusing on one side doesn't mean they're neglecting the other. Since Steuber's a soldier of the US that's operating in Afghanistan, it's obvious enough how terrible the Taliban is to him. This doc is about the problems on their side and the Afghans, not the Taliban's, since it's something more unknown to us.

[@RyLo18D]

Moneyxl00 Tmw when you’re holding them by the standards of the Taliban. Just because there are atrocities committed by the other side doesn’t mean it’s justified if you do it as well.

[@Sirfoodcrumbs]

@Moneyxl00 In this doc, it was said that Major Steuber would report everything to higher ups but nothing would ever come from it.

[@loreleiletslivetogether3767]

Someone is attempting to teach a college ethics class to a drug addict with less than a third grade education

[@franklinvonfrankenstein1137]

Who in specific are you referring to? At least when the soviets were there the drug addicts had college education haha, at least in Kabul.

[@mr.avocadoman1949]

Same thing happening in Canada with Cannabis, we have people that study the medicine they need and people buying other drugs running the Cannabis market and shaking down people with guerrilla tactics. Hopefully our government won't tolerate this as the people who are given this level of power to harass fellow Canadian people, we need to clean up because our legalization has some serious down sides

[@spicecrop]

Yeah that's the problem but its a two way street. The Americans are fucking clueless of the history of Afghanistan. The culture, the people, the tribalism, their wants and needs. The Afghans know all they need to do is wait them out and they will leave.

[@robinhood6810]

@@spicecrop armed em to the teeth against Soviet Union

[@Adrastros]

@@mr.avocadoman1949 as long as you have that shite PM, canadians will suffer.

[@se7enupmustang]

Goddamn the look Major Steuber has on his face is heartbreaking.

[@comradeurod9805]

You really have to feel sorry for guys like him. They want to take pride in their military work and their uniform but can't because of all the corruption.

[@Steve_1999]

You can see the frustration and sympathy in him, those afghans were born & raised into that lifestyle.

[@JD-vn4sh]

@Moneyxl00 r u talking about the Taliban

[@berkaytug754]

Anyone can read his face. That face had seen lots of incidents that is horrifying even in a month.

[@Silverhazed]

@Moneyxl00 Still the man believes in his mission to bring democracy and does that on a very humane way. He deserves credit.

[@Holygiant]

How do you even begin to fix a society where it's impossible to find a police chief who isn't a child predator. Truly a doomed state

[@userafg7]

Says the ones with a pedophile president 😂

[@custardbuttocks2612]

Yea, doomed for someone who lives in the western hemisphere. To put it mildly, you never hat something to look for in afghanistan, why tf did yall, and my country too, go to enslave these people onto our way of life? We only made it much much worse

[@User_1dashzero]

@MajinBuu-oo3vnbanned what? Sexual abuse?! Are you fuckin high on that afghan opium? They rape their cousins in those mountain villages

[@EddC97]

@MajinBuu-oo3vn I mean it was banned back then too but it still persisted. The same thing is happening today. The Taliban might say that they've cracked down on it, but the evidence shows that the Taliban engage in this practice just as persistently. It's deep in the culture of the country sadly.

[@jakerutherford3380]

Kinda like the perversion being pushed today in America huh

[@georgeriley4818]

This documentary is more relevant today. It explains why the Afghanistan Army folded like a cheap suit. This should be shared to give people a better understanding that this was a long time in the making.

[@zugdarr]

It is a very relevant documentary. The locals are not really warriors, they're just stoners with AK's. If anything, this video will be taken down for being too relevant.

[@jamesbroomfield7799]

I bet Trump and Biden watched this long ago and knew we were just wasting billions upon billions of dollars on a lost cause

[@phillykid2157]

@@jamesbroomfield7799 no Biden thought this “army” would be able to defend themselves 😂😂

[@hamburgerchef1203]

Soviet-Afghan War

[@maire8481]

@@phillykid2157 Did he really though? Did Trump? I highly doubt it.

[@basedsouljah]

this is one of the best documentaries Vice has ever done.

[@viviansmith1976]

B A S E D SBG SOLDIER I agree!

[@organizedchaos7111]

B A S E D SBG SOLDIER king diamond?? Awesome! I agree and definitely one of the funniest watching those desert idiots fumble all over themselves but that’s what centuries of inbreeding gets you. And the suits in a war zone with the bullshit political answers. Classic

[@fordtwendy]

Exactly what i thought after watching this.. I can't believe all of this is happening (or happened) and i had no idea.. I hope vice returns to this kind of documentary, Africa is extremely interesting.

[@olliephelan]

Dont mind Vice ; Not a bad place to start , but search Chomsky (on any topic) , John Pilger , and Robert Fisk (all on KZbin)

[@olliephelan]

Yeah ? Who was it fought 4 wars to force China to keep producing CONSUMING and exporting OPIUM ? *BRITAIN* !!!! (Thats you , INNIT ? ) Whos maintaining the Opium crops in Afghanistan ? *USA* and UK !!!! Who created the conditions for opium crops in Afghanistan ? *Roosevelt by building dams* Against the Afghan kings protests. !!!! Who shipped Opium from Turkey to Marseilles and USA ? *The French Underground during and after WW2* .!!!! Who shipped massive amounts of Heroin from Thailand to the USA ? *Air America* !!!!! Who shipped tonnes of Coke from the Contras to US streets to pay for fascism there ? !!!!! *CIA and AIR AMERICA* . *Those "desert Idiots" have them pinned down in fighting hostile occupations* But turning mothers and sisters into whores ? Is that Islamic to even say that ? Even if it were vaguely true ? Stop pretending to be a Muslim

[@LibertyJefferson]

My buddies have told me that one of the first things they realized when they got over there was that Afghanistan is only a country on a map. Most locals barely have a concept of Afghanistan as a State.

[@jr8260]

Its true. Not only that but they also have like ten different cultures all sharing that space and there is little unity between them. Just imagine the European union as one nation and they send polish troops to occupy Portugal where they do not care about or understand the people they are there to help. Oh, and everyone has like a 3rd at best education lol. It's sad.

[@tonypollock9900]

That's crazy

[@asare240]

Thats what happens when imperial powers arbitrarily draw lines in the sand to serve their personal interests. Several countries in Africa are very similar.

[@leilaan9344]

Yeah. they've spent the last 200 years or so fighting whether it should be islamic or Western and whether the country should be divided into its own tribal areas

[@kostam.1113]

@@asare240 You cant draw national lines in a region like that Same with Africa Situation now is far from perfect but its the best we got

[@redfoure]

I did this mission in 08-09 in Jalalabad and i can tell you this doc is spot on. Its interesting to watch it again now in 2024.

[@sleepyjoe7518]

CIA created Alqeada.

[@RobExNihilo]

"We left all those weapons, we're not making that same mistake again."🤣🤣 Aged like fucking milk.

[@magiricod]

I am curious about the alleged afghan air force. It seems like it doesn't/didnt exist.

[@SomeLazyDr]

It was the right move. The Taliban has rifles, not tanks.

[@RPercheiro]

He was talking about good weapons, tanks and so on

[@georgehollingsworth2428]

I checked the equip.e t we left them they got no modern tanks or air force

[@s.linastaffords6744]

@@georgehollingsworth2428 we stripped all the weapons and gave them gutted tanks, planes, MRAPs, etc, old obsolete weapons

[@_braune_]

The entire ambassador visit was an embarrassment

[@TheKing60210]

PR stunt at d best and lies at worse

[@arian7339]

That video was edgy as hell. It was like the new battlefield trailer

[@darylfoster7944]

Ambassadors are like school vice principals, pretty useless.

[@BosworthMcG]

Yeah, super cringe

[@brennaneaton4734]

if only the whole US army was like Major Bill Steuber... This man deserves a Nobel Peace Prize.

[@epicscreenname989]

Agreed. I don't understand how he has stayed sane. God bless him.

[@henrids]

I hope he's ok now and that he came back safe.

[@samrexroat8473]

For real. The guy is a model man.

[@aaronduvall1075]

brennan eaton He is a Marine, big difference.

[@maxpainter33]

brennan eaton i completely agree. i feel bad that i shit talk about a lot of those guys now.

[@Urufu-san]

Major Steuber was selected for promotion to Colonel in the U.S. Marines Reserve in 2021. At least being candid didn’t end his career. I think he‘ll never forget his tours in AFG, what a sobering experience for someone who’s willing to give his life for the greater good.

[@BlankMind8]

Been diving in the comments to hear some good news on the man

[@giddy8942]

That's not him. That's his cousin Phil. Major Steuber was forced out of the Marines in 2018.

[@ganno24]

This interview could have have been a career ender. Happy to hear for the Major. Inshallah

[@cM-zm5kp]

@@giddy8942wym?

[@Subfightr]

THIS. ... :'(

[@bushlovesska]

"he's still a warrior even in death" -a marine speaking of a young Taliban fighter who was killed. Powerful statement and very true.

[@llllllllllllllll3139]

I use to piss on there body

[@dennisadams6607]

i think our military is big on honor, and respecting the dead and captured.

[@Scotland2306]

When fighting monsters it’s paramount not to become a monster yourself. We may nave killed many Taliban but they get Muslim burials cleaned and wrapped.

[@kamikazemelon787]

Not just a Marine - a Major in the Marine Corps. I have huge respect for Major Steuber and hope that the load he carries having been a part of all this is lightened somewhat by knowing he tried his very best and is truly an exemplar of the American soldier, even if policy and the circumstances let him down.

[@spaceyaliens]

what point in the documentary is this scene please?

[@exarkun8250]

Not much has changed since this documentary was shot. And now with full US troop withdrawal, the entire Afghan government has folded like a house of cards. It was never a legitimate government supported by the people.

[@gozinto87]

They could vote another

[@mua2]

@Linh Nguyen The Taliban at least have the respect of the people however harsh they are. They outlawed the raping of boys and instituted the death sentence for that, they outlaw drug taking, etc. As fanatical as they are they’re 100x better than these louts.

[@jw7073]

@@mua2 nothing wrong with doing drugs

[@911mastermind]

@@jw7073 unless drugs is the only thing u do.

[@michlblacksmith]

@@mua2 you really believe that? Same people who were at the police station are no with talibans and you think they've changed - well good luck with that. Nothing has changed, just know body knows.

[@JohnZiTAB]

The fact that the post commander was riding on a bike stoned honking a rubber ducky was fucking hilarious.

[@Marie-fx2qp]

Timestamp?

[@JohnZiTAB]

@@Marie-fx2qp Let me find the clip. I’ll edit this once I do. Edit: 22:18 that’s the clip. It’s a fucking gem.

[@JohnZiTAB]

@3.142 I mean, have you ever seen an Afghan officer ride around a bike while honking a rubber ducky not high?

[@GothamsHero_]

amatuers

[@spicysalsaking791]

Lmao I died.

[@nickyTheKnight]

No matter how little I thought of the US interventionism, the ordinary US soldiers never cease to amaze me. These boys are genuinely good people, and trying to do the right thing, for the right cause. It's a shame that their efforts are now pretty much in vain.

[@joesosa41]

Indeed but it was because the invasion/war at its root was all I'm vain. Those poor vets were just pawns in a game that was lost from the beginning

[@nasrallahalfarouq]

@@joesosa41yea this def gave me a different view on the regular US soldiers but i cant help but remember what theyve done alot of corruption goin on even the higher ups dont care bout the frontline soldiers they use them for their unnecessary conflicts like theyre disposable

[@udittlamba]

good kids, bad politicians

[@LOUIS-nx8jd]

@@joesosa41 everything is by design.

[@ryhk3293]

@@udittlamba bad politicians, bad politics, unchecked capitalism and greed

[@ronniemata5724]

Thinking a lot about Major Steuber today.

[@chriswhite8584]

I heard he was blackballed out of the military and now works as a regular security guard at a building in New York

[@IyanAhmath12]

@@chriswhite8584 😬

[@MrQwertyman111]

It's a sad sight to see... the look on his face was one of defeat, because the task at hand was impossible from the start and it was clear for him. That whatever his targets are, all his effort will be a failiure in the end. And looking at the last few days, he was damr right. Seriously, ff this pathology of "local police" was really "the best" what we as the west were capable of managing in Afghanistan in over two decades of our presence there? Well, no wonder the country went down in just two weeks.

[@TheKing60210]

Oh my god. He did get blackballed. He reported little boys being raped by the Afghan tribesman. But he got his career cut short

[@Anon_E_Muss]

@@TheKing60210 the military supported the boy fuckers. The taliban executed them. Hope Steuben is OK today.

[@Rafiayaz]

As an Afghan, I feel ashamed to see our police force in a such condition having no discipline, respect, decency and morality. (Of course not all, but the ones that are similar to shown in video) I heard from family back home in Afghanistan that the Afghan police are mostly drug addicts but I thought they were exaggerating. Now I can see the proof for it and feel heartbroken. Respect for Major Steuber for being a great symbol of hope and care for the Afghans, but he can barely do any benefit if the Afghans themselves don’t want to be helped.

[@alysellin686]

What do you expect after decades of war? Afghanistan is not the place it use to be.

[@neelemjean5288]

As Salam alaikum wa rahmatullah wa barakatu Dear Brother, if u have be traumatized that badly well than i dont wonder... What These eyes and ears have Benn seeing and Heard of May Allah Azza Wa Jal protect us from it Amin Ya Rabil Alamin. These people have endured so much.. The suffered so much and they got addicted because of their pain and Trauma... The werent brought up like us they certainly dont even know what a normal warfree life means... May Allah Azza Wa Jal help them and heal them and forgive them and accept their repentance and make them successful in both Worlds Amin Ya Rabil Alamin wa alaikum salam Wa rahmatullah Wa barakatu

[@alextwin8748]

im surprised u know how to use a keyboard i guess you have learned a lot from the Whiteman

[@neelemjean5288]

@@alextwin8748 hallo to whom are u firing at specifically?

[@agceh]

My neighbour is Afghan and we chat now an then a little, but he is the most friendly and always working guy from the neighbourhood. and he lost his parents back in Afghanistan so he has also a big sad story.. but I can think why he left Afghanistan searching for a better place. God bless you

[@Spright91]

For those who wonder what came of Hamid Khan (the good commando) he was injured when his car hit an IED in 2020 and has been out of the fight for a while, He even made a video just after being injured calmly explaining what had just happened . The latest update as of August 18 he has made a full recovery and has made his way to Panshjir to join the resistance. He's still out there commanding troops and killing terrorists.He emerged as a real leader and his soldiers look up to him, he has become a popular figure among the afghan population for his leadership abilities. Hes a general now working with the top brass of the resistance. His heart is really in this and hes willingly laying down his life for the freedom of his people.

[@rfsalad4118]

Lol at resistance. Americans were the resistance too, with their might couldn't stop the Taliban. It's absurd to even think of some people opposing the Taliban in a valley as a resistance.

[@rubricatusseneca5770]

@@rfsalad4118 That's what the taliban were I don't know what you mean. The power and politics of Afghanistan is split primarily by clan and ethnic lines. The Northern Alliance did fine for themselves. Afghanistan was just another Vietnam for America, it was never about the amount of expendable resources, it was about the fact america could never not be seen as a foreign occupier just like the British in the colonies or the Germans in Poland or the Serbs in Austria hungry.

[@kblo7473]

@@rubricatusseneca5770 this double negation is enigmatic? Plus I dont see comparison between aspects of deploying US in Vietnam, British empire worldwide with - Serbs? Serbia never had slaves,colonies, neither it invaded any other country?! Excluding Serbia, Serbs are living all over former Yugoslavia - least number lived in Slovenia(10%). With separating Yugoslavia on consetutive republics - Serbs somehow ended up living in 6 different states. Hence they were against sesecion, they proclaimed autonomous counties in order to stay in Yugoslavia union but Germany and Vatican had other plans.Serbs were never invaders, although propaganda painted different picture - especially in Croatia where 40%population were ethnic Serbs(before genocide & exodus in 1995),now there is less then 10%. In Bosnia they present 50% of population, Kosovo " republic" is Serbian land for 1000 years until NATO "intervention" in 1999 after which last 20% of population, mass exodus to Serbia. Thats the reason I dont see conection with US in Afghanistan. i ve been in Iraq - 2006 7 Camp Freedom - all I understood that mil.ind.complex outsourced money spending in order for loose control of expenditures - so there s no freedom in sight - just commission s. See Dick Cheney etc - how to rip taxpayers without danger of being caught.

[@jibriilelmi8492]

is he still fucking the children, the chai boys.

[@social3ngin33rin]

aw, I always thought he really cared about his job, work, and the people he works with :) I hope he is successful and makes it back home, victorious.

[@lhallora1]

"They don't seem to think this way". That line summed up the situation perfectly.

[@georgehollingsworth2428]

36 percent literacy rate in Afghanistan, and much lower, down to as much as 90 percent illiteracy, in the provinces.

[@jaymod9111]

but only woman, man can read xd

[@georgehollingsworth2428]

@@jaymod9111 No. Most men in the rural areas cannot read.In this documentary it says that most of their officers cannot read.

[@maire8481]

@@jaymod9111 I'm sure women are probably a majority of the population after generations of war, but they're not 90%.

[@maire8481]

And I mean realistically, what could we do about that? How long would it take to teach basic literacy? And in which language? Or languages?

[@bobsmith-nb1vo]

I know it seems counterintuitive, but maybe teaching the whole population to read Arabic, and giving out a free Q'ran to every home might have been more useful than a million other ideas.

[@bucephalus1257]

Steuber seems like a fantastic leader. Hats off to that guy.

[@pixelghostclyde8717]

"You get the impression these guys are not gonna last". And last, they did not.

[@jacobmck4312]

All dead now

[@cubankid1959]

There's no Afghan national police or Afghan national army just taliban

[@backstabboi4559]

Or talibans

[@thegodofthegods1084]

@@jacobmck4312 They never existed, numbers on a paper.

[@ONLYSOG]

The worse thing was our generals lying to Congress about how well things are going… Zero accountability.

[@arashrezaee1464]

I wish I could personally thank Steuber for the work and sacrifice that he has done. You can really tell from the tone of his voice and the look on his face that he truly is concerned. Bless that man's heart

[@Troublesome2008]

There is a Facebook page dedicated to him: facebook.com/MajorBillSteuber But I don't know if he visits it. It looks more like an imposter is using his name...

[@Thephotondust]

really feel bad for Major Steuber. he tried so hard, yet nothing gets done. hope he gets to go home back to his family and have a peaceful life.

[@Julia-xi8mf]

I hope that Major Steuber is ok. I have no idea how he kept himself sane. This documentary should have far more views than just 7 million it's such an accurate representation of what really went down in Afghanistan. A follow up interview with Major Steuber would be really interesting but personally I just hope he's ok. He should write a book.

[@bekahe4433]

This should win awards...just heartbreaking.

[@needmoreramsay]

Major Bill Steuber actually cares about the people and the mission. If there were more commanders like him, progress and missions would be far more successful with far less death and corruption. You should never be given a gun and a uniform if you don't understand and care about the mission. Just following orders is not good enough. I suspect enough years of frustration and little progress will sadly cause the military to lose good people like him as it grinds away at you.

[@richpanini5295]

What mission? Protecting poppy fields? Some hillbilly farmers in the hindukush built up a drug empire up to the point where they cover 90% of the worlds heroine market during a 40 year lasting war? And a highly technologized army is unable to find open poppy fields the size of several football fields? They flew the country up and down several times with their drones and have high-resolution satellite imagery of every fucking place. I eat my own fucking dick if the CIA is not running or at least protecting this business.

[@MikeBenko]

There's no mission. There's no objective. There's no strategy. You could have a 100000 Major Steuber's there they wouldn't be able put a dent in this, simply because there's no plan.

[@oldoddjobs]

Hopefully one day the brown man will be able to go to Walmart. We must civilize these Backward peoples p. S colonialism is bad

[@alexschenewerk7436]

Rich Panini the poppies come from Mexico, dumbass. Sure they have them in the Middle East, but that’s a stupid myth that “we guard poppy field “

[@MaoMoney]

@@alexschenewerk7436 are you remedial? Wow in al my years never read such a stupid comment

[@guayaquilindependiente8763]

It’s crazy to have watched this so long ago, and hear and see the foreshadowing of what’s happening right NOW. What a sad country, especially for its people.

[@SwissMarksman]

I feel really bad & sorry for the weaker part of the society. Especially the Female.

[@modshroom]

at least now they can rebuild and there will be peace

[@aizenplay]

it's sad for sure

[@michlblacksmith]

I'm not sure about its people anymore, maybe for the women and girls - but for all those men I really don't feel sad at all anymore.

[@katarishigusimokirochepona6611]

@@michlblacksmith Boys and men are also human, feel pain and fear death.

[@Cole.Varial]

This is still up there as one of the best documentaries ever made, It's no surprise that the Taliban push the ANA back every day Edit: two days after I made this comment, the Taliban seized control of Kabul and the presidential palace, in turn gaining control over all of Afghanistan

[@hamzaferoz6162]

ANA*

[@Cole.Varial]

@@hamzaferoz6162 Yea, realized that after but I thought Afghan Armed Forces worked as well

[@erossinema8797]

But , really a lot could have been edited out. We don't need to see his opium buzzed head nose drippin' nastiness for that long.

[@xao92k]

10 years later and this is still one of, if not THE best documentary I ever watched.

[@Chris-ls7fd]

"Don't teach me about hygiene. I'm offended!" "OK well when I tell you to only shoot at things you can see, conserve ammo, stop dismantling the outposts for scrap metal, don't smoking opium on missions and please don't rob from the locals or kidnap, rape and murder their children you really don't seem to get it so I thought I'd go back to basics."

[@NewEarthAwakening]

If the U.S. had armed the women, I think they would’ve had no lack of resolve in sorting out the “bad guys” (whichever side they were on) who kidnapped their children, raped whoever, and pillaged the people. A justice tribunal of mothers wouldn’t have been so easily bribed to let hoards of pedophiles go right back to prowling the villages. The lessons of micro-lending in impoverished countries have shown when you try to give money to the men, they very often squander it on alcohol, drugs, and sometimes prostitutes, but if you give the same resources to the women they use it to lift up their families, create businesses, and give their children a better future. Maybe it’s unrealistic to think this would be possible in an Islamic country, but at the same time there’s no way in hell an army of Afghan women would’ve just handed over the country to the Taliban.

[@chibimonster_tv5827]

Yea if they would’ve trained the woman maybe the whole situation would’ve been different.

[@charananekibalijaun8837]

@@chibimonster_tv5827 Islamists are scared of being killed by a woman as this denies them paradise

[@chibimonster_tv5827]

@@charananekibalijaun8837 even more of a reason. You train the oppressed and give them a chance.

[@charananekibalijaun8837]

@@chibimonster_tv5827 yes

[@serggla924]

It's really hard to find people like Major Steuber.Someone who has both a high level of morals,ethics and general human empathy,and is intelligent.This is the kind of person that i would want as a president or politician.

[@blakkmetal-wizkokk]

***** that can't possibly be true

[@blakkmetal-wizkokk]

what makes you say this, mr. brown?

[@blakkmetal-wizkokk]

lol

[@from_space]

I respect him for his values, but in my opinion he is pretty foolish in many situations. Like when he really wants to believe that those higher ups he is talking to will do a damn s*** about this child abuse stuff. For me it was pretty obvious, that their "oh yes, sir, we really have to do something against this injustice" isn't anything more than "yeah boy, go play with your barbies and leave me alone with your childish ideals". Judging from this video pretty much their whole country, government and culture are a bad joke and he has a really really hard time accepting this despite it being so obvious.

[@Bayomeer]

​@@from_space I think you are too harsh and missing the obvious fact here: he is a military officer, he has a rulebook on what to do in X, Y or Z situations and he follows it, that's what he is trained to do and that's the only thing he is able to do, realistically speaking. Also he's a grown man with some years in the military (he wouldn't be a Major otherwise), he is certainly NOT naive or foolish, it's just that you can't call out or question publicly your superiors or their strategy, it's not your place to do it. This is how military functions and it is pretty effective when it comes to war, but what they are doing here is obviously not war but nation building, military isn't flexible enough to do this kind of thing nor is it designed for it.

[@Aterhallsam]

”Thousands of people have died here. Americans, British, German (and more). How can they expect us to be able to stand up against th Taliban alone, once they’ve left” That is pretty much what that old man said and it was so correct.

[@arminiuszmazowszanin2670]

Only person with chicken heart would said that, not lion heart.

[@cM-zm5kp]

@@arminiuszmazowszanin2670 you must be mentally challenged

[@buttholemcgee6493]

chickens are bold too@@arminiuszmazowszanin2670

[@irvvalenzuen3135]

@@arminiuszmazowszanin2670 the space between courage and idiocy is thin . You need to learn this . Stating the truth takes more balls than pretending everything is okay .

[@ilovejesusalways]

Whole wstrn coalition combined failed. What a sad fact.

[@kevthegoat8774]

Major Steuber was one of the only people in this documentary that actually seemed to care for the civilians who have been affected by this. Whatever he's doing now I hope he's in a much happier place than having to work with people who harm children or people who act like they couldn't care less about what happens to their country.

[@MrReymoclif714]

Those adults you’re looking at were once tea boys themselves.

[@BCJDM]

Major Steuber is really the standout character here. A man of integrity and respect. Thank you for your service and i hope you're doing well.

[@0MoTheG]

Maj Steuber is an interesting char. indeed. He aids, supports and works with pedophiles, highwayman, abductors, slave owners thinking he is doing humanity a service. I think he is a great man, just spectacularly childish.

[@ksasidhar2980]

@@0MoTheG regardless of what happened. He did his service, why don’t you put your body on the fucking line

[@skippythealien9627]

@@ksasidhar2980 this is a lame take. whatever you want to say about Major Steuber's service, the fact is that he and the rest of the U.S. military trusted some horrible people in afghanistan who were as bad as the Taliban and look what ended up happening. the taliban took power anyways. it was all a goddamn waste

[@wolfslullaby]

@@0MoTheG he obviously doesn't support them, he was one of the people there who was trying to do something about the abuse of young boys everyone else just kept quiet.

[@0MoTheG]

@@ksasidhar2980 What for? 20 years later we know what it would have been worth. Why should I risk my life for the power of terrible people?

[@machinegon99]

This doc aged like fine wine.

[@sloshed-rat]

Too bad the batch that comprised it, was swill from the bottom of the barrel.

[@TrueNargin]

There's a lot of praise for Major Steuber in the comments and it is certainly deserved but I was also impressed by Hamid Khan. He really seemed like a good man and I think he had the right attitude when talking to his men. Certainly compared to other commanders we got to see, Hamid was really setting an example for his men and I really think if the Afghan army had more people like him who don't abuse their power, who treat others right and who really believe what they're fighting for, this war could've possibly been under control or maybe, just maybe even over by now.

[@haaxeu6501]

Totally agree, I feel very bad for the few Afghans like him, they tried and did what they could but it was lost from the start.

[@tradzz5313]

I know, I really felt for him. He seemed intelligent and professional. I hope he got the hell out of that country.

[@meegz149]

Wojtek Madej An exemplary human being. They should make a fucking statue of the guy and write a song about him. Dealing with those men and still having fire in his eyes. I feel terrible for hoping he didn't live long enough to see the disappointment his government became. Both him and Steuber make me proud of what humans are capable of and show us all that we can be better people. Damn, I am crying.

[@AlexA-sz9yj]

Hamid’s KZbin he also has a twitter account kzbin.info/door/325-WM4N2wNA1JICsMgItw

[@benlewis5312]

​@PLEASE DO NOT BAN If the Afghan military more commanders like him, they would have won. They outnumbered the Taliban 4 to 1 and had better equipment. The reason the Afghan military failed was a lack of competent leadership and corruption throughout the ranks

[@mizzaros]

We'll look back in history, as we always do. This will remain as one of the pinnacles of what a documentary should look like.

[@giovannibuscaglia1891]

In the same moment i'm writing this comment Talibans are reaching Kabul and taking full control of the country. If someone is asking why they should see this documentary.

[@RuLeZ1988]

The thing is... to watch this documentation now, which was released 2013... is too late!!! It is to late to discuss this past from 2013 now. Its funny and sad at the same time that only when something bad happens, we look back in the past and have discussion about difficult topics, but when the situation is not current like it was in 2013, this documentation didn't seem to bring lots of discussions in our society or did it ? I have not heard anything of it though.

[@ph1thym1es92]

Discussions dont do anything anyways. That's all social media and the internet is...millions of ridiculous discussions that mean nothing and have no impact on anything that actually matters in the world. We could have talked about this for the past decade and nothing would have been different.

[@guccigucci5002]

usa could have been there 20 years and result would be the same. that wasnt an "army" they didnt even try to fight despite having 3x their number. they just wanted to collect their salaries. they folded instantly which shows it would never have worked no matter the time spent

[@RuLeZ1988]

@@ph1thym1es92 I wouldn't say that discussions or videos with relevant topics in open-media do nothing. With enough reach and a huge platform of viewers you definitely can change things, because it reaches many people who potentially have good intent and decision-maker capabilities in relevant and or critical sections even if its just a small capability. I mean Major Steuber is just one example of many other people who have good intent.

[@YokozunaNumber1]

I'd love to read a book written by Major Steuber.

[@mimihawaiikrpr4420]

I agree with 1000%

[@Mishik77]

I almost thought that he was related to the Von Steuben - (Anerican revolution) but he is not. It just look alike - Steuben - Steuber. But that would be great, isn't it?

[@Mishik77]

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Wilhelm_von_Steuben

[@nicknoss5341]

@Moneyxl00 the major knows how military politics work..his complaints would fall on deaf ears. No point in fighting a hopeless battle.

[@grifyn882]

he is died :( IED

[@cryptolinksinvesting2058]

300,000 drunks and drug addicts were defeated by a small group of well trained, sober Taliban fighters...what a surprise.

[@fruiteetx3531]

Don’t get me wrong your correct but I think the Taliban were just as stoned

[@amy109]

They did not have 300k soldiers. Most of them were “ghost soldiers”, only on paper so that the corrupt Afghan government could get more money from America 🙃

[@dailydoseofmma1512]

@@amy109 so america is so fucking stupid that they get played by afghanistan goverment ???

[@amy109]

@@dailydoseofmma1512 you obviously weren’t paying attention to what was going on 🥴

[@OmarHashmi-qz1td]

@@dailydoseofmma1512 seeing it now, yes

[@loserface5000]

I come from a military background completely separated from myself. My father was a Sargeant Major in Vietnam and has told me stories that still haunt me. He became friends with kids in villages, when he went to buy a can of Coca Cola the kids ran up to him and told him not to drink it because there were glass pellets in them and they would kill you slowly. He was immensely thankful to the kind people over there. This was one of the more tame stories he’s told me. Ive also lived with two relatives who has served in Afghanistan and Iraq and after a couple deployments they weren’t the same amazing people I once knew. I was shown some very troubling footage once from a realtives tour and I can empathize so much for these troops. The military is such a noble career, I stand by this, but it wasn’t for me. This was so honest and true, I can’t thank vice enough for showing actual testimonies to the result of an open conflict. I really hope that Afghanistan fight their way back to glory. This isnt a life for all the innocent civilians.

[@masaokakihara9316]

It's a noble career in theory. If you are doing service in troops, that defend your homeland from enemy attackers. However, US militaristic ambitions went far beyond that, for decades now. There is a commercial military complex, with huge corps and de facto warmongering, neocon, generational oligarch families, raking in fortunes, by participating, furthering and even starting worldwide conflicts. The general soldier knows nothing about this, is being sold on this nobility, but becomes a useful idiot, ending up as cannon fodder. The deaths of so many, were useless, unneeded and avoidable. But it has been going on for over 70 years now. Not only did we lose too many lives, by becoming occupiers, aggressors, sometimes even terrorists. We wrecked hundreds of thousands of otherwise healthy, strong and decent men. Many of whom are now mentally and morally broken. Carrying a burden of guilt. Heinous acts of violence, destruction and deception have been committed throughout the world, by the power of de jure non-partisan agencies, while using the military as strong arm. All to filling pockets of crooked and corrupt nepotism men. Who use tame words like intervention, military aid, operation, to scam the masses of citizens into obedience. All while the hundreds of billion tax dollars wasted were withheld from the Homeland in desperate need, who these fine men in uniform swore to protect. Breaking the very words of the Constitution they vowed to uphold. The nobility on which we were sold to support the causes, has been prostituted by domestic terrorists in suits, trained in the art of narrative story telling and rhetoric dishonesty. It's a shame.

[@CCGarland]

@@masaokakihara9316 ​Bruh, you're making me fall asleep over here. Army strong! Deployed to Kandahar from 2012 - 2013. One of the hardest years of my life, but I grew as a man. Rest in peace to all my comrades who didn't make it home.

[@masaokakihara9316]

@@CCGarland Thank you for your service and indeed, may they rest in peace. I'm saying this without sarcasm. But I'd rather have these fine American men with their families, parents, wives and children. Without the need to visit a graveyard to be close to them. But we all have different opinions as to how the world should be, eh... Afghanistan was just another financial, logistic, militaristic and humanitarian desaster. If facts let you fall asleep, you were perfect for that job. Not gonna lie. It's better not to think too much about it. You might end up like the many veterans who despise those, who lied to them.

[@Elrond_Hubbard_1]

@@CCGarland Your friends might be dead, but Exxon's stock price went up because of a new pipeline. Worth it?

[@Cedawood]

​@@CCGarlandperhaps you don't understand the guts of all this, that's fine, but even I as a Sgt majors daughter & granddaughter of a Kernel knows that there's more to all this than 'oorah oorah'. You showed the cut of your jib by the disrespectful comment coming out of nowhere

[@KyleBurnsMusic]

Major Steuber looks like he just wants to put his head in hands and cry during every interview. incredibly heartbreaking to watch someone or anyone for that matter go through this.

[@NiceRage2009]

And sadly when he gets back home there are minimal resources to help him to cope with all the bullshit he’s seen and been through. When they get home it’s by no means over. A shithole place like that, and the things they e seen will never leave you sadly. I feel for all of them! It seems like many of the Afghan have no desire to do or learn anything. They just want everything done for them. No wonder 20+ years into the war, it’s no better than when it started and how many thousands of soldiers have lost their lives over it. I fully believe if it wasn’t for the oil over there, the US would have just called it a day and went home right after bin laden and Sadam were killed.

[@KyleBurnsMusic]

@@NiceRage2009 oh my big brother has told me horror stories. I spend a lot of time talking to veterans. I wont ever pretend to get it but damn do i try to understand. My whole family served with the exception being me and my dad. Im glad we were talked out of it.

[@lordshitpost31]

And/or just murder everyone.

[@Beckelbay]

@@naeembacha4534 Thank you for this take on the situation. Very thought provoking.

[@qphn]

“we don’t have support from America” *waste 300 rounds of high caliber ammo* 😂

[@TheDaeroner]

"Training" an Afghan "army" of junkies high off the poppy, what you expect?

[@bingbongentertainment6737]

omgggggggggggggg i was raging when I saw that. Literally goes and blasts nothing with a machine gun and then they come back and have the audacity to ask for more ammo. Those U.S. Marines have the patience of saints lol

[@josephlemm7059]

Major steuber is such a caring realistic person and the fact that he still puts so much effort into his work knowing it’s hopeless and is risking his life everyday you can tell that he’s staying because Evan tho he knows his leaders will fail these broken people he’s doing whatever he can and fighting for the smallest signs of hope for himself. so hopefully he went home knowing he did everything in his power and isn’t completely ripped apart by guilt that he couldn’t do enough truly a hero hope all is well for you, especially now that everything you knew was coming is here and as bad as it can get

[@kamikazemelon787]

Almost a decade later - this documentary was and IS still important. The frustration and the translation issues, the pure essence of defeat. "I'd be nice to whichever strong man is in my garden". I watched it when it first released, I am a fan of Ben Anderson, and seeing "9 years ago" in my recommended feed... man. Prescient is too weak a word. It is a total disaster. History will, and already does, look back on the US invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq as a disgusting useless loss of life. World Police indeed.

[@mou8762]

@@cowmath77Are you forgetting the genocide, terrible atrocities and human rights abuses of your own, far younger, nation? Tens of millions gone in a lifetime, centuries of slavery, and yet you feel entitled to preach to those you massacre without pause?

[@rrai1999]

@@mou8762 one's a globe-spanning empire with a technological achievement list that made the soviets blush, the other, one that was, in recent history, invaded by both previously mentioned nations, and has failed to, in its lengthy history, produce a stable, prosperous nation without mass poverty and death.

[@mortenfrosthansen84]

​@@rrai1999what does that have to do, with a bloodlusting pack of lunatics? It has nothing to do with conditions or timeline

[@rrai1999]

@@mortenfrosthansen84 silence, your nonsense means nothing

[@mortenfrosthansen84]

@@rrai1999 is that what you tell yourself, now that the jig is up?

[@MrThehackers]

as a muslim and an afghan i would like to salute individuals such as major steuber for being such a genuine individual.....

[@johnjameson4901]

@@googleaccount93 Probably showing he's one of the few that doesn't have a thirst for infidel blood

[@GoldenCenturyMotionPictures]

Major Steeuber should have shot that bloody commander,

[@summersdiary7]

John Jameson So you’re saying that out of 1.8 billions Muslims “a few are not blood thirst”? If your statement was true none of us would exist, and you’d not be alive to write such a stupid statement. We’d be dead by some “blood thirst Muslim”. Incredible how ignorance remains a thing in 2020.

[@Hdawg600]

@@johnjameson4901 thirst for infidels lol go outiside in the world people with your mindset are inside feeding thier Racist agenda on the internet if you actually was involved with the real world you’d know how people work you sound like a pathetic kid about thirst for infidels

[@hakimdiwan5101]

My dear Afghan brother may God save you from the coming doom.

[@TheAlhambralions]

Major Steuber got that thousand yard stare. Poor guy has probably seen some crazy shit.

[@the1redcaptain]

Jake Luca The U.S. and her allies will prevail in the war against scum who threaten our people and our ways of life. You are completely correct.

[@tgreaux5027]

I really feel for that guy, he genuinely seems like he wants to help them, and cant. Every time he gets a moment to think to himself he looks like hes rethinking all his lifes choices that got him here. lol

[@Shteven]

Tom Greaux wtf is that funny? Fuck your "lol"

[@Yooneek696969]

@@the1redcaptain wrong. Again

[@anisaayann]

@@the1redcaptain this aged like milk

[@Snadaaahhh]

dafuq happened to these type of documentaries vice

[@villaininblack6674]

Sean Adams blame hbo

[@nathanbruce1992]

Alexander Sjögren: stop being a whiny bitch

[@qus.9617]

tell me this, would people rather watch a popular netflix series, or a tv channel, putting our documentaries (boring to most people I know, low on priority list) that puts their reporters in harm's way?

[@spunkyspaz]

Quinn Smith Well I certainly don't want to watch what Vice has become in the last couple of years, doing just what the mainstream media does, trying to pit left vs. right. What happened to you Vice? You used to be cool.

[@discutiibiblice]

it's not a vice documentary; it's an English soldier documentary that had been highjacked and popularized by vice.

[@therandomegirl]

its been almost 10 years, do we know what happened with Major Steuber? he was just a sweet soul stuck in a place he dint deserves to be in. he always makes me cry in this documentary.

[@1IrishAirsoft1]

Jesus fucking christ. I thought the thousands of soldiers we've lost was bad. what Major Steuber has to deal with on a daily basis is fucking disgusting and heart crushing. Stay strong.

[@cohall46]

I have watched this video several times and it is still disturbing each time. What I would really like to see is an updated 2019 version.

[@thesnake2620]

I agree, the situation was so fucked then I dread to think what it's like now.

[@fallgaf4688]

Of course i wonder what is like now

[@jr8260]

Just replay the video but imagine fewer foreign forces and you'll know what its like now

[@hakimdiwan5101]

@@jr8260 I came here to say exactly this, also add extra territories under Taliban.

[@thadcastle80864]

@Muslim Politician funny is not the way I’d describe this situation

[@LynnIronLightning]

man... you know... this poor, poor major steuber guy, he has gone so mad he can't even react properly i mean, he reached the point where nothing is unexpected, no facial expressions at all, even though he has seen things i can't even imagine but the part when he looked at the radio tower and described how he felt about it being bent, barely standing but still working reminded me of myself and how psychologically damaged i got from the harsh life i'm living. it felt really sad when he was describing the situation in the fuel tank and the machinery and how no one knows how to maintain those things and hes in the middle of it and helpless not to mention the pedophiles situation, good god man, he really wants those people to be educated and actually be happy and help themselves and save the kids. this man deserve a 5 minute salute from every soldier from all ranks in the world and i really hope this dude is doing great he really deserves the best and i can't even dare to tell em to stay strong, because i've never seen stronger than this. he's a true hero the mainstream media never talks or even know about.

[@yomamaisaniceperson2707]

Asu Razu he's a fucking baller man. I'd probably lose my shit just working with the lower ranks of ANA, let alone higher ups.

[@realsellingbyjevon4707]

@asu razu Well said.

[@mrcrock2095]

Well said Sir! Much respect!

[@benkealey1096]

I was here under major, dude he's being a big baby, he's just a pog that I barley saw and slept perfect in his comfy heated room, he went out of the wire like once lol, I was with 2/7 golf guns and was deployed with him

[@williamdarcy3683]

ben kealey I think the word you are looking for is “Pogue” not POG. Also you are full of crap. You barely saw him, because you were not under the Major. The advisor team in this film was called PAT-D 3 and they were in Sangin long before your BN did it’s RIP. PAT-D 3 did not belong to 2/7 they belonged to the Provincial Police Advisor Team or P-PAT out of Lashkargah. I know exactly what PAT-D 3 did and there wasn’t a single Marine in that team that was a “POG”.

[@vailraymer]

As the second in command on this tour (the Marine that finds the prisoners), I can honestly say that from a leadership role Major Steuber would rather have everyone concerned about the other 16 young Marines and Sailors who lived the exact same experience as him as part of our advisor team. #POPO

[@KurtMCox]

Feel sorry for Steuber. He's utterly dejected, almost a broken man. These people cannot be reasoned with.

[@Rox_204]

he will have a pretty bad PTSD i think, we need more good people like this guy !

[@rhinorex47]

Major Steuber for President?

[@mistyrious8112]

Afghans: We don't have any weapons, give us more ammunition to fight the Taliban. Also them: *Shoots randomly without aiming and unloads entire mags most of the time*

[@professorzoom7800]

😅😅😅

[@professorzoom7800]

thank god nobody is giving them grenades or missiles. who knows where they would be dropping them

[@mistyrious8112]

@@professorzoom7800 They have choppers and some missiles and rn most of it is probly taken by Taliban its Taliban on steroids now

[@professorzoom7800]

@@mistyrious8112 yeah, actually you are right unfortunately. this is a disaster

[@professorzoom7800]

@Ruben Friedetzky 😅😅 i don’t want that to be funny cuz it’s so fucking sad. what is our country thinking. i’m all for leaving, but jesus christ can we maybe make sure all our people and equipment make it back safe also?

[@zits56able]

this is by far the best thing vice has produced.

[@notknown6605]

Nah, the Liberian was pretty good too.

[@tSp289]

The world needs more BIll Steubers.

[@sashagrey2984]

And John Waynes. And Supermans. It's not capitalism that doesn't work, we just need moar superhumans, rockstars and classy billionaires who will definitely, no doubt, fix it all up. P.S. Capitalism does work far capitalists, need to admit. It really does.

[@grifyn882]

and Major Steubers needs the world to fulfill his vision...

[@chauna5413]

This is hands down one of the best documentaries.. I first watched this 6 years ago and still nothing has come to compare

[@justinc4924]

For sure. Can't fall back asleep so I'm watching it again before work. Haven't seen it in like 6 years also

[@TooColdS4]

looks like a waste of US time and resources.

[@TooColdS4]

***** oh i know, we put them in power

[@brettaskeen]

+John Petersen This goes further back than that. If the British had never invaded Southeast Asia and screwed with tribal and country borders, there probably wouldn't be nearly as many problems.

[@jakatom]

+Stevo2o6 It's good business for the war industry and good profit for politicians.

[@TooColdS4]

catnipcraze2 you will nerd when some someone tries to invade your piece of shit broke country

[@spacemonkey6695]

+John Petersen Not really, we dont creat every fucking problem on this planet.

[@gilzavala9739]

I was in FOB Price (Gereshk) back in 2008, my team was supposed to be put in Sangin but there was already an ODA there, so JSOC sent us to Gereshk down south and it was about 80% the same problem they faced. Sangin was the wild west in 08, firefights every day and a tough place to be as we supported some missions from down south. This is a common practice in Afghanistan where young boys are for run and it was appalling to have to let this stuff happen when had several classes prior to deployment, and previous deployments to help root out/stop child sex trafficking.

[@jibletjibletstein8040]

Gah dude what a damn life you’ve lived. Hope you’re doing well

[@timovangalen1589]

Eight years later and the Afghan government is folding like a cheap suit.

[@DavidRamos-no4lh]

8 provincial capitals have fallen in the past 72 hours

[@timovangalen1589]

@@DavidRamos-no4lh Herat and Ghazni fell today, and Kandahar is under siege. Nothing stands between the Taliban and Kabul now.

[@erickrasniewski567]

@@timovangalen1589 as off today a new government rules Afghanistan and the Taliban now controls Kabul

[@timovangalen1589]

@@erickrasniewski567 It is stunning how quickly everything fell apart. Twenty years of intervention all for nothing.

[@erickrasniewski567]

@@timovangalen1589 yeah

[@ibrav3598]

This documentary was literally the first thing that popped into my mind when they announced the Taliban took over

[@jordanlittle380]

The soldier that said “we tried to bring him a sheet; he was a warrior, he deserved a warriors death.” I believe it was Steuber Is the OG. If we had more men like this in the army we would be good. Honesty, Honor, Knowledge. God Bless Soldier who ever you are.

[@joem3999]

He is a Marine. Little bit different than a Soldier. Marines were originally the riflemen aboard Navy ships. In fact, they still are. The Marines are a department of the Navy to this day.

[@N3ur0m4nc3r]

If we had more men like him in the world*

[@joem3999]

@wyomarine Gave you a whole spiel about calling Marines Soldiers. Then maybe the whole history of the Corps.. Then I saw your name and photo. Nice troll bro. Right on

[@niklassororitas]

​@@joem3999 wtf is going on in your mind? XD Marines are soilders. If a marine say he isnt a soldier he lie. He wears an uniform, works for a souverein state, getting orders and use weapons. Thats what soilders do. Stupid or what?...

[@secondarytrollaccount]

I feel so bad for major steuber having to work with absolute menaces of human beings and get threatened when he tried to get these people to understand self accountability

[@6236003]

"We gotta teach them... that if you got a detainee you still gotta give them water." Can't believe the Afghan government collapsed in under a week. Blows the mind.

[@sloshed-rat]

They lasted a week? I'm amazed they managed to hold out that long.

[@josephharrison1625]

Seriously, just acting like animals. I would’ve snapped on those mfs and told em get with it or do it yourself. They acted like it’s Americas job to fix their problems

[@ZeeBri]

watching this 8 years ago was like a glimpse into the future of when we left

[@tanveechoudhary1838]

I just wanna say that this documentary means a lot to me, it is what made me fall in love with documentaries. And after watching like a gazillion of them, I always come back to this. Ben Anderson is just like the perfect mix of involved but unbiased at the same time, I have watched a lot of his work and love all of it. And, at the risk of sounding preposterous it's sort of like a first love that one never forgets. Okay, bye. :)

[@neggawattt]

“he still a warrior, and deserves to be treated like one. even in death” great quote

[@notknown6605]

Great sentiment

[@MikeBenko]

I just don't see how can we turn that place into anything resembling a functional country. Afghanistan is literally fucked beyond all recognition.

[@jeanfatale]

Mihalis Benko Only an idiot would trust the US to make anything better. Land of the free, land of the retards.

[@MikeBenko]

Jean Fatal​ it wasn't the US alone that waded into the mire that is Afghanistan, but the whole of NATO. Tho most other NATO members realized it was a lost cause and left already. Post 9/11 hunting down Al Qaeda in Afghanistan was a just cause. But believing that we can bring about structural changes was foolish at best. Frankly we should have simply stuck to bombings and using special operations strikes to kill as many Al Qaeda members as possible, but we shouldn't have focused our efforts on the Taliban. The Taliban are the Pashtuns across much of Afghanistan and Pakistan. Trying to beat that is an exercise in futility. Instead we should have focused on the Saudi ideologues funding the madrases that are churning out the fundamentalist Wahabbis across the Muslim world.

[@jeanfatale]

Mihalis Benko I'm not so sure why one should have focused on anyone or any country at all, except for the talibans (that seems sensible, at least). Sadly, it seems that the US won't act now, when there is an actual war going on with IS and all, that even I think should be stopped. I see you are interested in the subject, that's great.

[@IconicCypher]

Jean Fatal Hey! It's land of the free, *home* of the retards! Get it right!

[@jeanfatale]

Iconic Cypher Darn, sorry, and thanks.

[@nooner1228]

I felt demoralized by the time I finished watching this I couldn’t imagine being there for months having to deal with this. All the marines there past and present have my upmost respect not that that really means anything. God bless you all.

[@odinsplaygrounds]

Relevant to this day. "This is what winning looks like".

[@Willrobert92]

The guys drugged out while filling the sandbags is comedy gold

[@hyperplayer22]

For me, its was more quite depressing..

[@Sycraw]

1:27:48 This is exactly what happened now in 2021. Foretold by the guy in 2013...

[@noneya9035]

Lo and behold, it's 2019, and WAPO publishes an article stating our government knew all along that this was an unwinnable fight.

[@thesnake2620]

"Mission accomplished"

[@ayushacharya972]

@@thesnake2620 That "Mission Accomplished" sham (or "shit", your choice) was in Iraq, in 2003, on the ship, while Bush Jr. announced the "victory" 😑

[@timovangalen1589]

Vietnam all over again.

[@amy109]

@Brendan Pratt only to evacuate people. Hopefully evacuate the afghans who helped us too. This entire government, every single administration since it started, needs to be thrown into the garbage head first.

[@vincentadultman6226]

@@amy109 it's makes me so angry seeing them goofing off in the worst way possible Being high during class is bad, but in such a high risk situation? The self-plundering is disgusting And the worst part? They fools won't suffer at all under the Taliban, it's the women and the intellectuals who'll be stoned and killed, while these assholes will probably be the other kind of stoned

[@z3ki]

it's such an eery scary feeling watching this knowing the inevitable future of this country. its so scary to know how horrible it is in other places of the world it really humbles you and makes you grateful, never will I complain about such little things knowing some people are born in a country like that, 150 years in the past, a living hell. It's so sad it sucks even more knowing there's nothing you can do about it. Just praying these poor children and women make it out alive somehow or that one day this country is restored

[@saidmaz7876]

Do not talk about our kids and women with ur dirty mouth! Go help ur women and kids getting gangbanged in the west every day, everywhere!

[@kcck7588]

Afghanistan is a dead country.

[@Jennifer-fr1tm]

I am dating an Egyptian. There is no legal way for most to leave their Arab countries they're born and trapped in. Visa officers will not let people go if they don't think they will return. If you do anything they don't like jail. You gay or trans or bi or a weird or mentally ill or whatever? Might get stoned. The military and police might come and investigate and arrest nobody. They have random check points where they might arrest you for any dumb thing or no reason at all. If you do something culturally wrong you could lose you job and not be able to get one or see a doctor and become homeless and starve to death.

[@westernmonk1210]

They didn’t live in hell before usa showed up but you always will

[@Boomy0]

@@westernmonk1210 Bro theyve lived in hell since the 90's

[@sonjake21]

"They're not making that mistake again." Aged like milk.

[@aaronmorrow2]

Major Steuber is a legend

[@trumanhw]

The intelligent Major certainly warrants a salute. Such candor and articulation. What a disheartening use of resources and lives.

[@frankiejaimes1]

1:25:20 almost broke me down. I HOPE YOU ARE STILL ALIVE MAJOR STEUBER. AND I HOPE YOU ARE DONE SERVING THIS COUNTRY AND HOPE YOU ARE HOME ENJOYING YOUR FAMILY. YOU DID AN AMAZING JOB IN AFH. I am extremely proud of you

[@ssud11]

He was fired for telling the truth. He is a security guard now.

[@jeremygovender]

@@ssud11 wow america

[@tarksahin]

14:50 "one afghan soldier said to me ,oh it will be great when the americans leave because all the money they had for weapons and equipment we will get that money, and i was saying no it doesnt work like that" and than that guy mentioned about usa supporting mujahideens against the russians and leaving all the weapons even millions of dollars then that dude said "we are not gonna make the same mistake" THEY MADE THE SAME MISTAKE