Gundam F91 Brutality

Gundam F91 is so brutal.

[@alexs5814]

It's the casual, almost offhand, brutality that makes it so real. You just know that the mechs and civilians are so far apart from each other that they are simply incapable of interacting with one another in conscious ways.

[@TannyWanny]

well put.

[@harisatryo3760]

​@@TannyWanny 0:12 Ouch...😮

[@Rexini_Kobalt]

it forces you to ask yourself, to what capacity are they actually protecting the citizens, in comparison to how much harm they do. you know, aside from they fact they are all facists lol

[@MinscFromBaldursGate92]

''War Is bad and you (the audience) should feel bad.'' -Tomino, probably.

[@McCheese-xc9ig]

"Wow, cool robot!" -The audience

[@ihavethehighground8697]

''Damn bro..'' -also the audience

[@Fuji086]

War... Is hell, but hey giant robots. -Yoshiyuki Tomino

[@kassmalz2069]

"kill em all" -depressed Tomino

[@SammEater]

Just like Kojima with Metal Gear, he made the robots way too cool, hard to pass a "war is bad" message when its so cool.

[@atlasprime6193]

Not only are the bullet shells dangerous, but also the noises. At the distance they were at, their ears should’ve start bleeding by now. The size of those weapons would definitely have made a loud noise.

[@wheelman1324]

“What???”

[@walterHonwana]

"WHAT??"

[@Lyzokiel]

YOU GOTTA SPEAK LOUDER BOI, THESE GUNS AREN'T EXACTLY THE SILENT TYPE!

[@guts-141]

Tinnitus goes EEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[@Mickey2099]

That's not true at all! I've felt an automatic 25mm cannon firing a lot of rounds near me for a lot of years and I have no hearing problems at all

[@jacktaylor0465]

Man I really wish this gets remade into a show.

[@crustypaladin]

☝️

[@the_cosmic_cowboy12]

Yeah that would be awesome. It was supposed to be one, and that would fox some of the awkward gaps from the movie

[@papersparrow899]

It was originally going to be a series.

[@casvalcat3546]

If they will, the series will be titled "F91 The Origin" lol

[@averagefilipino742]

They should remake it and include mars zeon, I wanna see banagher and phenex taking out both the crossbone vanguard and mars zeon.

[@kullenschulte4481]

If it wasn't for the fact a woman carrying her baby got her skull fractured just before I would be laughing at the guy in the guntank with the heavy guns looking in confusion

[@WolfeSaber9933]

The A-10 is safer than that. It doesn't eject its casings.

[@aickavon]

@@WolfeSaber9933the A-10 is a blue on blue war crime machine LOL. It's not the casing's you gotta worry about, it's it hitting the right target you gotta fear.

[@WolfeSaber9933]

@@aickavon You do know, it is the job of the troops on the ground that have to give it its targets. The Warthog doesn't have the advanced systems like other planes for finding targets, not like the F-35, which doesn't have that much field experience and has engine problems. The pilots need binoculars to spot the targets the boots on the ground have found.

[@aickavon]

@@WolfeSaber9933 Which... only proves my point that the room for error is way larger than it needs to be? And thus this thing is a war crime machine. Like... even the government realized this is a massive issue and has modernized a lot of A-10's to make them quasi-less useless and less prone to murdering people it doesn't need to.

[@WolfeSaber9933]

@@aickavon As an engineer, I've got an idea to have a more proper CAS aircraft that has the spirit of the A-10 and have modern technology. Don't worry, a large rotary cannon is still in there, just also equipped with means for more accurate shooting, though it can still work without the computers.

[@Nameless-ln5mr]

Did you see that? THIS people is why giant robots need laser weaponry! If this clip, as well as Patlabor and Evangelion have anything to go by, it’s that if your giant robot has a gun that uses bullets, THE SHELLS HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE!

[@_spooT]

laser weaponry isn't always your best bet. this has been debated in star wars vs halo. laser weaponry can only do so much. sure it's effective, but energy shields designed to counter it will just absorb the heat and energy. plus in space lasers have limited rage. if you launch a bullet in space, it will travel the same speed for countless of light years until it hits something, not to mention it's more effective against shields designed to counter lasers. Didn't you ever wonder why in the gundam universe there will always be bullets and even gatling guns on the gundams?

[@defenestrationismyfavoriteword]

Caseless ammo.

[@lamia197]

In real life many aircraft such as the A-10 warthog has a system to return spent cases to the drum. Just put that in problem solved.

[@stitches1110]

@The Ols • v • lol you’ve seen the hotel escape scene from Hathaway haven’t you?

[@nolongerusing7430]

@@defenestrationismyfavoriteword That's what I'm saying. If the G-11 could do it in the 60s, then a giant futuristic robot should be able to do it too.

[@Despotic_Waffle]

This show does a good job of showing collateral damage. Of course giant ass metal shells will give a concussion and brain injury if it fell on your head.

[@gamester512]

That was no concussion, a shell of that size falling on your head would flat-out kill you on the spot. Those shells were the size of a human head. Something that large made out of solid metal would kill anyone struck by it. If medical assistance were readily and immediately available it might be possible to survive, but I expect that it would be very unlikely and the person's death would only be delayed for a relatively short time, and if it struck someone in the head like it did here, it would be instantly fatal.

[@Optimaloptimus]

@@gamester512 The funny thing is, that casing just did the impossible. It traveled a further distance than every other casing just to hit her on the head. The chances of even one of those casings even traveling that far away are astronomically low, since casings when ejected out of guns of that size will simply fall straight down rather than being yeeted a distance. Not a single system in the real world does what can be seen here, in which they eject over 10ft in distance.

[@bombomos]

​@@Optimaloptimus We are talking about a space faring human race with 18ft tall Mecha. Pretty sure their weapons would have a shell ejection system so A: the mechs don't slip on the shells(if there are enough of them). B: to eject them away from the mech during space combat so they don't get in the mechs way or damage it while it's moving around

[@bombomos]

​@@Optimaloptimusalso it bounced off the ground

[@Optimaloptimus]

@@bombomos Fyi ejecting anything would affect the direction of travel in space. Ejecting shells would be foregone before going to space is even thought of. Second, if Gundam was actually basing itself accurately on physics, they would only use beam weapons in space as firing anything that uses gas or energy to propel a bullet/ shell into space would be a no go-no brainer.

[@hardgay7537]

God, this was a missed opportunity to make Trowa a warcriminal. The Heavyarms ran out of ammo faster than a bad Armored Core player.

[@Kira22558]

He is technically war criminal.

[@Servellion]

Didn't ever recall Heavy Arms ejecting shells. So I checked and the weapons on the arms were "beam gatlings". Whatever the hell that is.

[@jadeimusprime2158]

​@@Servellionyou know your standard beam rifle? Imagine that, but its a gatling gun

[@shiftfire4511]

Yeah, from what I recall the only weapons that the Wing gundams have that would spend ammo or casings like that are the head vulcans, which even if they did rain down on unprotected heads wouldn't really pose a risk. They're just too small. The scene here is closer to a fairly large brick being fastballed at her.

[@midgetydeath]

Yeah, but his enemy was wiped out aside from a handful unfortunate enough to survive for him to knife them. And some of the scenes in the late episodes and OVA convinced me they gave him some nuclear missiles.

[@fencer0Z]

I like how they introduce so many characters here for only Seabook, his sister and Cecily to be important

[@quantizedanson]

It was supposed to be a full season anime, but Bandai wants it to be a film instead, so they got no time to develop characters

[@ultrayoshi100]

Of the characters I think they were going to do things with, red head in glasses gave me Kai vibes even though he doesn't pilot anything, and the guy in the black suit mightve been a Bright analog since they mention his dad being a member of the federation army

[@AZNXXXful14]

Skull fracture...that's how Krilin was killed by Tambourine in Dragon Ball. And how real world NASCAR driver Dale Earnhardt died.

[@adlibbed2138]

and Marco Simoncelli in MotoGP back in 2011 Malaysian GP

[@D3sertGh0st]

For those who may be worried about this irl, gatling autocannons actually dont eject their casings, instead they are stored internally within the weapon and collected whenever the weapon is returned to base

[@megumin4047]

The cases are also collected to help maintain the balance of the (typically) plane they’re attached to. I feel like this would be something Mobile Suits would benefit from.

[@decrobyron]

Also, non-gatling 40mm auto-cannon will toss the shell just like that. Such as 40 mm Bofors L/70 autocannon on CV90.

[@nt249-hoa-ong9]

@@megumin4047but most of gundam machine gun that is not vulcan gun in the head is 90mm and it only going to be higher caliber

[@watch.v-dQw4w9WgXcQ]

@@megumin4047 I don't see how it would benefit a Mobile Suit much, if anything holding the shells would be more detrimental. More weight means more energy to move it, making it more sluggish so it would be easier to hit.

[@LamborghiniDiabloSVPursuit]

@@watch.v-dQw4w9WgXcQ I'm not sure you realize this, but empty shell casings are much lighter than the loaded ones they deployed with.

[@onderon]

This scene really hits differently after I've had a kid.

[@FredMaverik]

Before it was "FREAKIN AWESOME DUDE" right? Haha

[@Mondoness]

@@FredMaverik it still is 😎

[@gantz22ify]

I didn’t even notice the woman was dead up until I saw the very thin trail of blood and the wide open eyes.

[@Feasco]

An idea comes to mind: Cloverfield but with giant mechs

[@Evil0tto]

It was called "Pacific Rim."

[@nickm5419]

@@Evil0tto not even close, it has to be a Found footage/Shaky VHS camcorder movie in first person view but set in the Gundam universe

[@Spudtron98]

@@nickm5419 Hathaway did something like that in one scene.

[@heavyarms55]

Honestly never much liked F91. Most of the story is way too rushed. But this is an area they did well in. It shows that when wars happen, it's always regular folks who get the worst. I wish the war mongers in the real world understood. But just like here, it's never their loved ones dead.

[@austinreed7343]

And when someone deliberately kills the loved ones of the warmongers, do the warmongers deserve it?

[@giornogiovannatheultimateb8553]

​@@austinreed7343probably.

[@zealotscout]

The only brutality I see is how they didn't follow through with F91 being a full on series instead of a OVA.

[@ikagura]

Sometimes I prefer a smaller OVA series with better animation and less padding.

[@ChainsawManDude97]

This was a theatrical movie, not an OVA. I do wish they had made this into a series however, the idea of a theatrically reanimated movie with theatrical quality animation instead of another compilation movie with footage that you’ve already seen on television with pure tv animation could have been a pretty cool idea while still along side with a fleshed out tv series. But they went the wrong direction just simply making it a movie for what ever reason we can’t fathom.

[@X-J-Z]

Even empty bullet shells can inflict deadly blow's when its size matches of an infant.

[@Kira22558]

Yep Blame the designers.

[@Optimaloptimus]

It's also possible the creators of the show just pulled god out their ass because that shell casing traveled farther than every other casing in this scene just to kill that woman for no reason.

[@WolfeSaber9933]

The A-10 was better built, and it is a gun that flies.

[@Archdornan9001]

That's one reason why Laser and Plasma weapons are better. No casings.

[@dooggo-1402]

Your missing the scene where the Black Kid (Whatever his name was) was thrown off my an explosion so hard, he crashed against it, and Seabook tried to get him up only to realize he was dead.

[@Clone_TrooperX]

0:59 I just noticed that this is Tank Loto. after watching unicorn series and i remember that when it was used in the Laplace box conflict 27 years before f91.

[@kanto20]

Kind of not really. That's the Guntank R-44, it's a distant descendant of the Loto we saw in Unicorn.

[@Opteisen]

This is an R44 Guntank, it's Anaheim's bersion of SNRI's Loto

[@GalaxyStandard77]

Cool they had a war museum. Wish someone used those ancient Mobile Suits would be cool to see Zaku II on the field

[@gelgoorx]

When they do a Gundam live action they should keep this in mind I bet it would make for some tense scenes a pov from the ground with these suits duking it out in the city

[@pancholopez8829]

I say be careful on who does it. .. Mainly since Netflix tease they will be doing it...

[@BrettMattHarris]

It does however have the director of Kong: Skull Island on the project however. Plus legendary is attached coming off of godzilla monsterverse. Out of all the live action anime adaptations going on at Netflix, I think gundam is the one with the highest chance of working.

[@nickm5419]

@@BrettMattHarris ill be the Gundam pilot

[@Anon26535]

There's a good chance they will. This exact same scene happens in V Gundam and the fifth Origin movie.

[@Optimaloptimus]

How about they don't do that? The casing here just traveled a further distance to kill that woman without any reason given. Every other casing fell well short.

[@EvilDoresh]

They should invest in caseless ammo. Does Gundam even have gyrojets (basically self-propelled miniature rockets; never catched on because they're too expensive and finicky, but they keep popping up in sci-fi nontheless)?

[@_spooT]

i agree, same goes with modern tanks today. their shells casings are made with flammable material that when fired, it burns up and only the small metal case below is left

[@SaulGMV]

No, they don’t. Minovsky particles disrupt most communications in the gundam universe, they are introduced in like the second episode of the 1979 show, they even say they have to use cables for some missiles

[@EvilDoresh]

@@SaulGMV I'm aware of that. They even use cable launchers for close-distance communication. Doesn't _quite_ work as a reply here because _rockets_ are dumb fire unlike _missiles_

[@cl4p7rapdnb85]

Well if u know u know but the reason Abrams 1 tank has a smooth bore gun the tank round has the rifling and smooth bore allows for shooting rockets and athor ammo. Also alot of Gundam have smooth bore guns. If you build Gunpla u sometime can see on the decals ...

[@shiftfire4511]

Most gundam series use a significant number of beam weapons, or physical *melee* range weapons. Including this one. Unfortunately, beam weapons on mobile suits have limitations and can be expensive and countered by shielding. As such, physical guns are still very prevelant in Universal Century Gundam series, even by the time of F91 (which takes place over 40 years after the first Gundam series, where beam weaponry first became prevalent on mobile suits).

[@zackman9230]

And they said Evangelion was brutal..

[@amuroray9115]

Evangelion was influenced by Gundam. Many series were.

[@indonesiareborn4068]

planetary genocide is more brutal than this

[@amuroray9115]

@@indonesiareborn4068 Char starts doing that in CCA

[@windbell8641]

I heard that evangelion creator inspired by ideon

[@AllyMonsters]

@@windbell8641 Same creator.

[@classified68059]

"Children as shields" GENIUS! 😂📰

[@deltoid77-nick]

Yeah this is why energy weapons are preferred no hazardous spent casings.

[@Archdornan9001]

Facts

[@nt249-hoa-ong9]

Dude where will the heat that the beam produce go ? Out in the air or the vent and in gundam hathaway it show that even beam weapon is not safe from accidently cause civilian death

[@bombomos]

This is what I need in my Mech shows

[@MayumiC-chan9377]

my husband who served for the SANDF from 2005-15 told me the most chaotic warfare was armored warfare.

[@Feasco]

0:11 btw

[@OscarLopez-et7qf]

This should at least have been an OVA

[@TheEmperorHyperion]

Blame the execs on that move.

[@Apoollo_11]

Tomino was going to make it tv series,but Sunrise is a fucking jerk

[@officialFredDurstfanclub]

There are two types of people. Those who think this is horrifying and disturbing and those who think it’s the funniest thing ever

[@ZeonicZaku1-Zeon_Grunt_Suit]

The first time I watched it I started laughing. I still think it's horrible though.

[@VidGamer123]

Why not both?

[@minicle426]

Black humour then? 🤔

[@themachoechidnaugandarandy7583]

This is why Gundam was awesome. Then the silliness happened

[@dirkleon2223]

WOW that was sad. thx for the upload.

[@crustypaladin]

223,000 views but only 5 comments, wtf

[@jacktaylor0465]

The Teetans had something to do with it

[@ericvash9960]

Remember KZbin Kids? Yeah, this vid got hit by it.

[@flaminginferno6641]

​@@ericvash9960 Ironic

[@youngkappakhan]

I think Sunrise truly robbed us of a great series with F91. Should have let Tomino cook. The first and final acts of the movie are phenomenal and everything in between is just whatever.

[@noahboat580]

That mom really got headsmashed by a shell casing 😢

[@peaaanuuutz]

I can't. I genuinely can't watch shows like these. The world is cruel enough as it is. I watch anime to escape it, not to live it.

[@VidGamer123]

And that's valid. Gundam can be pretty heavy at times.

[@meteorknight999]

How are you going to be ready for wars the govt are plotting then, iran taiwan Russia

[@Duomaxwell02M]

He shouldn't watch War in the Pocket then @@VidGamer123

[@slyapbg]

Maybe just skip the first 15 minutes of this movie, the rest isn't at all like this. In fact, it's kind of silly.

[@boltsy1395]

taking a giant empty shell casing to the back of the head is super brutal.

[@josephdonnieconjurado]

Gundam F91 and Victory Gundam, highly recommended.

[@tunasand_357]

ガンタンクR-44、最後のガンタンクみたいですね

[@user-ln8gy1db6j]

UCで出たロトの子孫だから

[@DDwaizen]

@@user-ln8gy1db6j ロトの子孫って言葉の響きが なぜかカッコイイ

[@Kira22558]

And then...G-cannon becomes most hated MS.

[@atlantiswolf]

Beam Weapons in a Colony? You're going to blow a big hole in the side of it. Machine Guns in a Colony? Those cartridges gotta go somewhere. It's like the point is that you shouldn't be fighting in these things.

[@CarlosdCover]

Rework style Hathaway flash, when??

[@Bread-nx9fo]

I dont know how in the hell the Federation wouldnt just melt down all the Zeon suits after the war, I mean it took 1 year they couldn't have made that many fucking mobile suits.

[@crimsoncrusader4829]

it's a military museum.

[@g--stef4756]

Numbers and combat in Gundam are quite skewed owing to the fact that the One Year War was, well, one year long, but more to the point even current military conflicts don't quite end with enemy materiel just getting scrapped.

[@pandaman2234]

You realize Zeon was making mobile suites for nearly a decade before the war started right?

[@samthemodelbuilder7797]

Same reason why there are German tanks still around from ww2

[@Ozraptor4]

1) Zeon suits were adopted into Federation service in the 0080s. 2) The Republic of Zeon was given nominal autonomy postwar and continued producing MS for its own defence force up until it merged with Axis. 3) There was a thriving civilian market for Zeon suits.

[@frogfinance4605]

Every time I see the shell hit her head, every time I watch F91, I get a flashback to a story a Bush War veteran told me. I have the recording somewhere but, I think this is paraphrased correctly. 'They got there about half an hour after the terrs and most of the huts were burning. One of the ones that wasn't had a black villager laying in the doorway, with the back of her head missing and most of her brain outside. A child that couldn't have been much older than a year was pulling at her clothing. He closed his eyes and they kept following the spoor, while the BSAP with them dealt with the village and cleanup.-'The way he tells it is fucking haunting

[@jedireach]

This was hard to sit through, honestly.

[@steven7936]

Generally the Casings would stay in an auto cannon otherwise it would cause issues with the stabilizers

[@rifatrizaldi]

Anyone know the ost name?

[@jagerzaku9160]

Kino

[@MatthewTheWolf2029]

The weight and tension to this scene makes it believable. Its a reminder that war is hell.

[@cristsan4171]

That peepoles is why guns go brrrrrrrrrrrrt on these obstacles

[@user-dq7be6lz6d]

0:40 ここにもアムロ銀行あったんだな

[@srichael2713]

That's how you put your politics in a media. It should be secondary to the story you're telling not the other way around.

[@Peasham]

Politics are the plot of Gundam tf are you talking about

[@srichael2713]

@@Peasham Yeah, but you don't browbeat it into people. Make it entertaining not lecturing. Heck look at the ancient fables. There's lessons there plus being entertaining.

[@Peasham]

@@srichael2713 Gundam goes out of its way to stop everything so that characters can state specifically the exact thesis of the work in as many words as humanly possible, going so far as to straight-up derail plots of series in order to achieve this. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

[@Peasham]

@@srichael2713 Also absolutely hysterical to cite ancient fables as NOT being lecturing, that's a nice opinion, did a KZbinr give it to you?

[@amuroray9115]

@@Peasham true

[@DeadMeat991]

Wow, I had no idea war is brutal. Up till now I thought of it as a day in the amusement park.

[@slyapbg]

Various kill cam videos of the Ukraine war would have you believe just that. POV drone attacks, set on some stupid arse music, edited like a pmv, made to elicit responses of excitement.

[@DeadMeat991]

@@slyapbg Thankfully, I don't give credibility to memes.

[@DwayneHicks426]

I'm surprised nobody has copied or made a reference to this in modern films.

[@nobodycares6633]

This is war, noting fancy like the laser weapons whant us make belive.

[@joshuakorynta3385]

How did Bat from Hokuto No Ken get into the Gundam world?

[@pkemr4]

didnt even show the birthday party getting interrupted

[@josephzielinski8817]

War of 0123.

[@afrikasmith1049]

Can you imagine playing a Gundam game where there are civilians and you could easily kill them by accident?

[@bluebird1054]

薬莢で母親死んだの『うわっ』って当時思った

[@BIacklce]

War is bad Wow cool robots

[@memedealer2018]

God shelled weaponry of that size seems like a massive waste of money per bullet

[@MaximilianoAedo]

1:06 Zaku II and Zaku I

[@Kira22558]

Scary....sad...

[@edwardgreene6248]

No need to check for a pulse.

[@OnePlusOneEqualsOnePlusOne]

Only if they shoot a lot faster, then there won't be any miss on the civilians. -Laws of War

[@striker7469]

Damn! 😔😔

[@duskwolf4232]

they should make a hg of both the heavygun and g cannon and maybe all the crossbone vangaurd but in modern high grade size and not small tiny one like the high grade f91 or victory gundams

[@corygene2965]

I mean the f91 and x series are smaller, the mobile suit technology advanced becoming more compact

[@duskwolf4232]

@@corygene2965 i know that but that shouldn't eff the size of the actual models kits

[@TheLVJ]

You don't seem to understand how scaling works. HG is the grade. 1/144 is the scale. The HGUC F91 and Victory units aren't even true 1/144 scale. They are actually a little bigger than they should be.

[@alfonszitterbacke318]

* *bonk* *

[@user-eh4wk7jm2b]

0:10 〜 This is why non-beam weapons should not be used in urban combat with mobile suits. I don't know of any scene that so expresses the cruelty of war.

[@imjustatool9247]

Lady got kill from big ass shell case....😮

[@ikagura]

Red Dawn?

[@fatahillahakhmad413]

Bayangkan kamu warga sipil biasa di Medan perang kau hanya bisa pergi dari tempat itu

[@blahblahpocalyspe8323]

Brutality or reality?

[@papersparrow899]

Both.

[@guyofminimalimportance7]

Technically this is unrealistic since the real-life equivalents of a big, vehicle mounted autocannon like that don't eject shell casings, but the scene does highlight the very real issue of civilian casualties coming not only from malice, but the sheer fact that war is messy and no matter how much care either side puts into it, innocent people will always be killed so long as there is fighting.

[@neoharmoniagropius1426]

Somehow old Anime like this is very Masterpiece than a new Anime

[@dannytacos689]

Too bad the rest of the movie isnt nearly as enjoyable as this scene is.

[@giornogiovannatheultimateb8553]

It was supposed to be a series.

[@maddestmike5791]

How is this different than general Gundam brutality?

[@RulerX.]

It isn’t, but people only care about brutality when it affects civilians/their lives. When it happens to soldiers they see it as a “not my problem”.

[@Kira22558]

Because it's expected from the combatants.​@@RulerX.

[@Nyaonyx]

Is this under the UC timeline?

[@clover8502]

Yes

[@user-nq3uu4hm2g]

guntank

[@gearshiv]

Tank loto a gun tank would be way bigger

[@lirneim8013]

@@gearshiv that's an R-44 Guntank, a descendant of the Loto

[@dbzlover666]

Bonk

[@giornogiovannatheultimateb8553]

G cannon...

[@AlejandroHernandez-og8gp]

Cómo se llama el anime

[@stranger3435]

Mobile suit gundam f91

[@AlejandroHernandez-og8gp]

@@stranger3435 gracias amigo gringo

[@sadmel2705]

Someone give her a senzu bean 😢

[@goldengriffiny3694]

0:12

[@hikakin_mania440]

0:20頭痛い

[@yusumnn2007]

The head should have been knocked off like what in ideon

[@usagitsukino608]

Bad Feddies

[@RetroOtaku64]

Yes hahaha

[@jacktaylor0465]

Char Aznable did nothing wrong

[@Dougie-Jones]

Earth Feds are a bunch of corrupt, elite pushovers. That’s the worst type of evil in all honesty.

[@Brian-rx9sp]

I've never really liked how the Feddies are portrayed as incompetent and cowardly, especially in stuff like 0083, ZZ, CCA and Late UC. I get that they're not really supposed to be portrayed as straight up good guys and that they're meant to be corrupt, but most Gundam shows don't really do anything with it besides use it as a cheap excuse as to why they're not more involved in the conflict and why lone ship/Motley crew Resistance group of the week has to handle everything themselves. There's not really any indepth commentary or look into the Federation's inner workings and structure or impact on the Gundam society as a whole. Plus, in F91 and Victory, they're said to have "grown weaker", which is why orgs like Cosmo Babylonia and Zanscare can just steamroll them with ease. At this point in the timeline with so many colonial regimes popping up and attacking them, why have no nations or Sides just tried to leave? How is this weak and incompetent Federation not just fracturing apart Austria-Hungary style?

[@kevinkinne7119]

To be honest, the feddies brass were"t so much evil as politically-ambitious incompetents who viewed military service as a stepping stone leading to elected office.

[@captaincosmopolitan5163]

The story was pretty shit tbh but atlesat the brutality and in depth chaos of fighting in a colony was so intense

[@giornogiovannatheultimateb8553]

The story was good

[@neohubris]

@@giornogiovannatheultimateb8553 yeah I liked it

[@minicle426]

A lot of the story felt like Star Wars. 🤔

[@slyapbg]

@@minicle426 Actually, yes, but without the competency. It's kind of a bad version of Episode 4 and 5 mixed together.

[@DemoNinja79]

Disney would never show this in their animations but would gladly show you gay and lesbian sex if they could get away with it.

[@Peasham]

Actually, Disney cancelled one of their most profitable shows ever because it portrayed a gay kiss in a way that couldn't be censored for foreign markets. Further, Gundam invented the Yaoi genre.

[@joshuahensley9395]

one scene does not a good anime make

[@dark7element]

What are those shell casings made of that a hollow casing of that size would be heavy enough to instantly kill you just by falling on you? Remember, that's an EMPTY casing, without the actual projectile in it anymore.

[@RaptorPegasus]

my brother in christ, that's a bigass empty shell

[@ultimateblade4127]

From a big height, too, not to mention it's getting very quickly ejected out given how they practically bounce around.

[@WolfeSaber9933]

The A-10 doesn't eject its casings.

[@GugureSux]

If you can, try to get your hands on a 22mm anti-air cannon's casing. I can tell ya, even those things are HUGE, HEAVY, and HARD. Some of them are made out of coated steel, but even thick brass is still metal.

[@WolfeSaber9933]

@@GugureSux You mean 23mm?

[@yakima11hakim4]

This may be brutal...but Gundam seed is more than just a brutality

[@martinrizal4259]

all gundam series are brutal except gundam builder

[@soldier1stclass987]

this is when a time japan makes most violent anime and goriest games, i dunno why they don't do this anymore

[@NerdXZ-pn4nt]

Not brutal enough

[@Yusei255]

Nothing brutal at all.

[@Gangsta88777]

Where's the brutality?

[@johnnywantyoudead5113]

Tomino was depression

[@SnausageVonBrathearst]

a woman getting knocked unconscious from a casing, is brutal?

[@JnEricsonx]

Oh no, she's dead.

[@RomHunterBlueSilver]

0:12 Bonk I just realize something...Tomino really hates women with a baby

[@papersparrow899]

Nah, some things have to happen since it's war there.

[@RomHunterBlueSilver]

@@papersparrow899 that or he had to deal with that bs at the way to work or restaurant or etc in his life.

[@papersparrow899]

@@RomHunterBlueSilver what

[@RomHunterBlueSilver]

@@papersparrow899 in othet words, hear the baby cry during a transportation to work .

[@papersparrow899]

@@RomHunterBlueSilver Maybe, or maybe not.