They are far to bland to illicit any strong emotion. Just another pop band.
@DevilBreaker13 Жыл бұрын
green day is one of the best 👍💯
@texanbill6032 Жыл бұрын
They are garbage
@afreakaboucher1316 Жыл бұрын
Don't know anything about them nor none of their songs don't have any negative feelings towards them .
@zekeyfreaky101 Жыл бұрын
Imagine that.. Noel Gallagher doesn’t like another band/artist.
@allistergraham6704 Жыл бұрын
Always was a jealous snob
@jan_vyhnak Жыл бұрын
Don't understand his point. Isn't he already dead?
@larrydanadavid2435 Жыл бұрын
@@jan_vyhnaktf? What is your point…
@jan_vyhnak Жыл бұрын
@@larrydanadavid2435 My point is he is complaining that they didn't wait for him to be dead - which for some people he already is.
@larrydanadavid2435 Жыл бұрын
@@jan_vyhnak Doubling down on stupid …
@Ian_L1994 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Blink-182 doesn't "hate" Green Day. There's even a picture of Mark Hoppus wearing a *Kerplunk* shirt in the early 90's. And Mike Dirnt gave him one of his basses when he had cancer. Johnny Rotten just dislikes *everything.*
@seed8325 Жыл бұрын
yeah im sure its all just competition between bands and stuff,.. thing is whether or not greenday are better live, they will never be as bigg as blink. over the years tom has gotten way more creative and his song writing is way better than billi joe's. and rotten is always negative haha,,.. but never mind the bollocks is probably a top 5 album of all time,.. ever.
@S1N15A Жыл бұрын
@@seed8325 Greenday is the biggest band my dude.
@seed8325 Жыл бұрын
@Dobis yeah your probably right tbf.. but blink basically split up for years. Was never same band without Tom where greenday continued on strong. I wouldn't say theres much in it.. I think at both bands biggest peaks blink were bigger.. like enema of the state and pants and jacket era they were huge and greendays peak was probably american idiot era.
@Andrew-cq7uz Жыл бұрын
Blink‐182 doesn't hate. Green day they even said so on old school MTV but you rock also Greenday is awsome
@Andrew-cq7uz Жыл бұрын
Greenday is Awsome Blink-182 is AWSOME
@BananaWaffle99 Жыл бұрын
Mark Hoppus was saying how him and Green Day are cool with each other and that they still talk every once in a while. That’s old beef they had.
@BananaWaffle99 Жыл бұрын
He said that not to long ago on his discord
@travzimmerman1340 Жыл бұрын
Let's all pretend Blink 182 was a thing
@codycast Жыл бұрын
@@travzimmerman1340uh they’re on a massively popular world tour (I went to the San Diego show last night. It was awesome)
@dkiceman10 Жыл бұрын
@@travzimmerman1340lets all pretend that green day drummer know how to play drums. Oh yeah, billy's guitar skill. LuL
@itsonlysound Жыл бұрын
Green Day were never not cool with Mark. Tom was always the problem. They liked Mark and Travis. Read the Kerrang interview from the Pop Disaster Tour.
@t_rent247 Жыл бұрын
The Wonderwall vs Boulevard of Broken Dreams thing tho... Ed Sheeran just won in court for this kind of thing.. You can't copywriter/own a chord progression.
@oncorhynco371 Жыл бұрын
Wonderwall is the most fucking mid song I've ever heard ever even if you could i wouldn't give a fuck anyway
@mace9930 Жыл бұрын
Damn right.
@TheInfamousLegend27 Жыл бұрын
i find it hilarious that noel gallagher of all people claims someone stole his music when pretty much all oasis songs are stolen instrumentals
@itsonlysound Жыл бұрын
Oasis made a living ripping off the Beatles
@VEV-cu6no10 ай бұрын
@@itsonlysoundoasis made a living being better than the beatles
@israel45069 ай бұрын
@@itsonlysound the beatles were in the 60s bro. they were the fundemental basis on alot of rock music in general.
@AnonYmous-nj7mh7 ай бұрын
@@VEV-cu6no 🤣
@sweetbunnybun4 ай бұрын
noel himself said he stole from a lot of artists, he doesnt shy away from it
@Brian-qt6su Жыл бұрын
Imagine loving Third Eye Blind so much you’d bottle someone to defend them lol
@the406seadonkey6 Жыл бұрын
"I'll never let you go, I'll never let you go..."
@MonsterMeatMac Жыл бұрын
“Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo” was his war chant
@flowerchild89 Жыл бұрын
I liked Green Day! 💚💚 Wonderwall by Oasis does NOT sound like Boulevard of Broken Dreams whatsoever.
@Mister_W.T.F Жыл бұрын
I agree. I literally don't know what he's talking about. Do you think he's getting mixed up with another song?
@TowellSnake Жыл бұрын
@@Mister_W.T.F He must’ve been mixed up with Girls Aloud’s Life Got Cold which rips off Wonderwall’s Vocal Melody
@jimjambananaslam3596 Жыл бұрын
Both songs have the same chord progression, that's why he said they ripped off his "arrangement". You have to have a pretty big ego to think you're the first musician to put 4 chords together in a certain order, if you ask me.
@Mister_W.T.F Жыл бұрын
@@jimjambananaslam3596 its not evident to the ear at all, though is it? It's not got the same "feel". The drums don't come in with the same signature or anything like that.
@roxannestorm2616 Жыл бұрын
I love Green Day but Green Day doesn't sound absolutely nothing like Oasis at all, not by a longshot. Let's face it. Noel Gallagher and His brother Liam are nothing but a couple of crying dysfunction drama soap opera Kings have been spending too much time drinking in pubs thinking that they can beat The Beatles which they can't. Blur sounds way better than Oasis. I don't care what Oasis said and neither what Johnny Rotten and The Sex Pistols said. I love Green Day and Blur.
@iancrowley420 Жыл бұрын
funny how the pistols called out GD for bring too pop punky and a few years later GD called out blink for being too pop punky
@ChrisEck13 Жыл бұрын
I saw 2 shows on the Pop Disaster tour with Green Day and Blink. At the time I really liked Blink a lot but Green Day really did blow them away live. I don't think I've ever seen a band where I felt like they were just going through the motions as much as Blink. The only thing memorable about their performance was how unmemorable it was. Green Day really interacted with the fans and put much more into the show.
@thebeingbecoming3596 Жыл бұрын
green day always was and always will be derivative shit
@billclinton3010 Жыл бұрын
Love both but Blink was awesome a month ago in Boston.
@prisonmike4971 Жыл бұрын
I was at the same show and green day played 1000000% better than blink did. But at least for me at the time, it being my first show, I have fond memories of blinks set.
@JoeTheBlacksmith13 Жыл бұрын
I saw the show I Chicago. A couple of my friends and I walked out halfway through Blink’s set. I was so pissed that Green Day opened for Blink and their boring show…
@madmartigan1634 Жыл бұрын
There were a lot of pop punk bands around that time that were visibly bored by their own music while playing live.
@Tater2018 Жыл бұрын
Modern Green Day has the same ideologue as Rage for the Machine. They were anti-establishment until their views became the establishment.
@johnthemachine Жыл бұрын
That's a really good way of describing it.
@bangslamwham88 Жыл бұрын
AFAIK many were already criticizing Green Day when they started for being too commercial for a punk band.
@WinterInTheForest Жыл бұрын
Real punk always saw Green Day for the posers they are
@cchavezjr7 Жыл бұрын
@@WinterInTheForest calling something "real" already is not what punk is about. That's what is dumb about the whole Green Day is not punk crowd.
@TheWonderer7 Жыл бұрын
They were ALWAYS the establishment. Always
@MonsieurExist10 ай бұрын
I love how Noel Gallagher believes he owns one of the most basic chord progressions of all time
@sweetbunnybun4 ай бұрын
dude wrote one of the most popular songs ever, he can be as arrogant as he wants to be
@MrHonkler3 ай бұрын
@@sweetbunnybun One song? One, if that. He's not good enough to have that much ego
@shredtildeath777 Жыл бұрын
Rotten was right about one thing, sucking up to one half of the potical system doesnt mean you beat it. You're now apart of it.
@firefly44220 Жыл бұрын
Yeah when billy joe did that I was done with them. Once you get some clout….don’t be divisive or pick sides. It’s just a bad look and makes you look “paid for”
@peterjonas4971 Жыл бұрын
a part? apart means the opposite.
@OTZI_BOI Жыл бұрын
yeah... Thats punk rock for ya... Theyre leftists
@peterjonas4971 Жыл бұрын
@@OTZI_BOI Good. What do you think punk was for? Raw capitalism? Ever hear of a band called The Clash?
@OTZI_BOI Жыл бұрын
@@peterjonas4971 just bc green day is huge doesn't mean theyre capitalist pigs if thats what you mean. Also im not well educated enough to speak on the clash, as i haven't listened to them much.
@seanmckelvey6618 Жыл бұрын
I find it funny that John Lydon talks about how Green Day is some big, corporate sell-out band when the Pistols were about as manufactured as you can get in "punk". They've been given the sole credit for a genre that already existed before them, and that others have done better. I wouldn't say I'm a huge Green Day fan either, but it's a bit hypocritical for the singer of group of major label circus clowns that was the Sex Pistols to be speaking as if he was in Black Flag or something.
@cooperminion8257 ай бұрын
Plus, he's very anti-lgbtq+. Also, the Pistols and Green Day came from completely different times and places. The punk scene in England during the 70s was much more abrasive than the one taking place across the pond. Both scenes wanted change but they wanted it in different ways. England was aimed at the 18+ crowd and focused on anarchy. America, however, was more youth oriented and focused on playing fast and loud while telling authority figures to fuck off When Green Day got started, it was a whole new era with the birth of MTV. You could see concerts from your home, bands now put out music videos to promote their singles, and you learn how to own the stage from watching your idols. It also gave kids exposure to new music genres that weren't as popular at the record stores. Plus, Green Day came from the East Bay area of California which had a much friendlier environment with the famous 924 Gilman Street, an ALL AGES punk club
@Mikko2225 ай бұрын
punk grown in popularity through commercial success, let's face it.
@D00M3R-SK8 Жыл бұрын
I had the first 2 albums as a kid, this was way before I had internet access and had to find music for myself. I was only one of two people in my whole year at school that liked alternative music like metal, punk etc. The only Punk bands I knew back then were offspring (probably my favourite from this group of bands) NOFX, Greenday and Rancid. I discovered Black Flag and Cromags though, and this completely changed my outlook on Punk bands going forward.
@the406seadonkey6 Жыл бұрын
Hello fellow 'The Offspring' fan. Very underrated band and one of my all-time favorites.
@ZombieDowneyJr Жыл бұрын
@awoken8infinite We would have been such good friends as kids! Except swap out Offspring for my deep seeded childhood love for Joan mofaukin' Jett!! Woo!!🤟🤟
@D00M3R-SK8 Жыл бұрын
@@ZombieDowneyJr Love Joan Jett. Do you like Cromags? The Main guy from the Cromags was friends with Joan Jett when he moved to NYC, he has some stories. Well she came to one of the first Cromags shows as well.
@Mister_W.T.F Жыл бұрын
If you ask John Lydon's opinion you would be disappointed with anything less than a Johnny Rotten response
@dsxa918 Жыл бұрын
Sure, but Noel Gallagher's comment at the end wasn't funny.
@DrMario_666 Жыл бұрын
Was the exact asshole poser response I expected from him. Imagine being in the Sex Pistols and thinking you’re real punk 😂😂
@Mister_W.T.F Жыл бұрын
@@dsxa918 i don't understand why you've added that beneath my comment
@mrdeatheli Жыл бұрын
@@dsxa918 don't be mad because Noel was right.
@jimjambananaslam3596 Жыл бұрын
@@mrdeatheli Wonderwall is hacky radio music and so is Greenday, so they used the same chord progression once.
@KnaveMurdok Жыл бұрын
Being hated by Johnny Rotten is basically a compliment.
@GOATLABDISCORDIA Жыл бұрын
Only NPCs hate Johnny
@KnaveMurdok Жыл бұрын
@@GOATLABDISCORDIA I hear the King has a new advisor!
@Ukraineaissance2014 Жыл бұрын
Sex pistols, the original manufactured boy band
@NotAnAstronaut2k Жыл бұрын
@@Ukraineaissance2014Atleast they did it right lol
@Itelkner Жыл бұрын
@@Ukraineaissance2014 Nope. Steve Jones and Paul Cook formed the original core of what became the Pistols in 1972 with Wally Nightingale. Glen Matlock joined in '73 and Lydon in '75. Nothing to do with being manufactured or a boy band.
@CommodoreFloopjack78 Жыл бұрын
Dookie and Insomniac were MASSIVE at my high school. Both are fantastic albums.
@Scrinwaipwr Жыл бұрын
Nimrod too.
@TheWonderer7 Жыл бұрын
Puke
@Astech31 Жыл бұрын
Im sorry for you.......
@barto2jz Жыл бұрын
@@Astech31 why?
@KaiDecadence Жыл бұрын
Man I wish I was in high school during that time when Dookie was out and fresh. When I was in high school, it was the aftermath of American Idiot and I actually do like that album but not as much as Dookie lol.
@bjmarchives Жыл бұрын
I personally never liked Green Day’s music.. even in my more punk phases, however I never hated them or thought they sucked. Dookie was huge so I did enjoy a few songs as a kid, from that and nimrod.. I just tire of their sound after about five seconds.
@Ukraineaissance2014 Жыл бұрын
Yeah its all pretty much the same song after about 3 songs
@michaelfivas9256 Жыл бұрын
If you had a punk phase you weren’t punk, lol.
@RonaldReaganRocks1 Жыл бұрын
YES!
@AxleTrade10 ай бұрын
As a punk band they are essentially high-fructose corn syrup inserted into the scene. Sellouts trying to maintain the illusion of being rebels. They're not terrible but the fact that Billy tries so hard is laughable.
@doofwop7 ай бұрын
@@AxleTrade cannot stand BJA, I just keep hoping he fails to look both ways when crossing the street one day and the metro transit guy claims to have not even seen him
@Banksharper7 Жыл бұрын
Noel Ghallagher thinks he’s better than everyone at this point.😂
@eh2396 Жыл бұрын
That dude is in serious need of a punch to the face lol
@blondejon5538 Жыл бұрын
He is though. His List of hits is bigger, his writing ability is greater, and his guitar ability is second to None. Each song is a masterpiece. Oasis' music is timeless to the point the rest are beneath them.
@brandonwenzel2844 Жыл бұрын
@@blondejon5538If this isn't irony, I've got a bridge I'd like to sell you...
@blondejon5538 Жыл бұрын
@@brandonwenzel2844 You certainly don't have an orginal line to sell me. Nor did you put forth a reasonable counter argument. Go back to your bouncy castle
@deaddoll1361 Жыл бұрын
@@brandonwenzel2844 Noel is masterful at taking the piss for a laugh. Unfortunately, the intellectual level of the average punter is so low, they can't understand when it's a piss take.
@TheJoyrunners Жыл бұрын
You can call Green Day pop, punk, alternative, whatever you like, but they write damn good songs. Dookie and American Idiot are brilliant records jam packed with catchy tracks.
@erikberry6408 Жыл бұрын
Poser
@X9523-z3v Жыл бұрын
American idiot might as well be written by American Idol
@deaconblooze1 Жыл бұрын
I was going to respond that greenday is the most trash band that has ever existed, but then I noticed that you were a band, so I had a listen. Greenday is the second most trash band that has ever existed.
@songcramp66 Жыл бұрын
@@X9523-z3v Since when do they write anything on American Idol
@d34dj3d1 Жыл бұрын
Catchy doesn't mean good.
@silvercrow2925 Жыл бұрын
3:39 were they trying to re-create the damned's debut album cover or is it just a coincidence
@grasspatchkid6751 Жыл бұрын
They were!
@TheCondorjc Жыл бұрын
An album better than anything Green Day has done.
@theoo.2019 Жыл бұрын
@TheCondorjc why the hell do all you take a bash at Green Day every chance you get? What the fuck did they do to you? They changed the music landscape greatly and influenced many artists/bands. They did more than you or any other wannabe punk band in the 90s. Stop hating and learn to appreciate what they did to music landscape of today.
@matthewwinthrop3278 Жыл бұрын
Ok so based on this video it sounds like guys from Green Day have problems with Blink 182. I don’t think Blink has ever really cared. Mark mentioned in an interview a couple years ago how they asked to do another tour with Green Day and Green Day said no. So, sounds like they’re the problem. But that doesn’t surprise me.
@thh4584 Жыл бұрын
Green day come off as elitist punks.
@matthewwinthrop3278 Жыл бұрын
@@thh4584 they really do. Especially now. Blink seems so laid back and I think that’s why they’ve arguably had a bigger influence on other artists. They seem like the band that wants to help younger bands and still have fun.
@shizeldolphin36 Жыл бұрын
That’s pretty ignorant to think Blink has influenced more bands than Green Day lol also, GD consistently brings unknown younger bands to open for their tours
@matthewwinthrop3278 Жыл бұрын
@@shizeldolphin36 it’s not ignorant, but ok. I said “arguably” because we don’t know for sure. I’m going based on what I’ve seen other bands say about them. Blink has also taken younger bands on tour with them, the same way Pennywise did it to Blink in the 90s.
@thh4584 Жыл бұрын
@@shizeldolphin36GD elitist fan mentality much.
@joesmith6972 Жыл бұрын
It's funny how all the anti-war bands/artists during the Bush years haven't said much since.
@firefly44220 Жыл бұрын
Exactly 👍💯
@icemanire5467 Жыл бұрын
Depends on if their political party is conducting the war or not.
@jonbourgoin182 Жыл бұрын
4:37 the "R" word? So Tom called Tre retarded? Genuinely asking lol
@lamipalma Жыл бұрын
Left me wondering, too. Can't say anything on the internet anymore, these days... people get offended over everything.
@MattGDreal Жыл бұрын
yeah, it was for fun back then though, it doesn't hold integrity it does todat, blink and green day are friends
@Mr_Ashley Жыл бұрын
I mean….I can see how Tom came to that conclusion 😂.
@AMERICA-RUNS-ON-BLOOD Жыл бұрын
Green Day are like the Monkees of punk
@firefly44220 Жыл бұрын
That is a VERY good analogy, actually 🤔
@doofwop Жыл бұрын
totally
@BigPapaSam96 Жыл бұрын
You forgot about Wattie from The Exploited. The dude can't stand Green Day
@eh2396 Жыл бұрын
Unpopular kid hates popular kid. That's all I read.
@Whytedebil Жыл бұрын
Actual punk hates entitled California boy masquerading as a punk. Its cool if you didn’t read like that. We can’t force you to be correct or factual.
@eh2396 Жыл бұрын
@@Whytedebil lol gatekeepers love crying about everything
@Whytedebil Жыл бұрын
@@eh2396 most of everyone does. Sign of the times. It’s 2023. Peoples feelings are important I guess.
@joannaksyta12156 ай бұрын
Worrying wether something is „actual punk” is such a juvenile thing and a first world problem. All those people caring so much about the „real stuff” are actually very shallow dedicating their life to entertainment (because that’s what music and concerts are actually about).
@brockfuller2074 Жыл бұрын
Blink 182 doesn’t hate Green Day. That’s false. Mark Hoppus said himself that Blink asked Green Day if they wanted to do a Pop Disaster Tour 2 in 2018. Green Day said no though
@mr.yeeter3537 Жыл бұрын
That would have been so coool
@brockfuller2074 Жыл бұрын
@@mr.yeeter3537 first pop disaster tour was before untitled album by blink & American Idiot. Pop disaster 2 would go incredibly hard
@VolvoImpala Жыл бұрын
Noel's mad about someone ripping off his song? That's his career! I know you're paying people, Noel, but that doesn't mean you're not doing it! And yeah, the Green Day song has the same "around the world" chord progression that "Wonderwall" has but "Wonderwall" has the same "around the world" chord progression every other song has. Check out "Alive" by Pearl Jam- the chorus. Check out "Man In a Box" by Alice in Chains. Again, the chorus. The melodies to both songs are completely different so Green Day's song is not the same as yours, Noel. And to be fair I think "Wonderwall" is a much better song but don't tell me Billy Joe's melody is the same as your duotone based melody. That's you in a nutshell- duotone melodies and duotone solos. It's monotonous.
@mattl6425 Жыл бұрын
If a Gallagher brother says you're whining too much. It is officially, too much
@groowanderer Жыл бұрын
Majority of green day hate came simply due to their success. Like you're not allowed to get mainstream success as a punk band... so what if they changed their music later on? Freak at the time everyone was talking shit saying all their songs sounded alike. They change it a bit, find even more success, then in comes more hate. Fk the haters, green day is badass
@doofwop7 ай бұрын
green day sucks and so does your taste in music, friend
@thisprofilepicisakittyboi98316 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t say that they changed their music. It just matured. If they really changed it then it would be appealing to everyone. That’s basically what selling out is.
@WinterInTheForest6 ай бұрын
Punk is about hate. Making cute little songs that appeal to mass audiences defies the whole point of the genre. They are a mockery of punk.
@thisprofilepicisakittyboi98316 ай бұрын
@@WinterInTheForestPunk rock is not about hate, it’s a diverse subculture with various ideologies.
@thisprofilepicisakittyboi98316 ай бұрын
@@WinterInTheForestalso the album that put them back on top was them expressing their outrage towards Bush’s presidential campaign and yet you’re calling their music “cute little songs.” Clearly you’ve never listened to any of their songs.
@kevinroulette Жыл бұрын
My band opened for Green Day in a basement show . Was right before they broke big. So they did the DIY punk stuff . So I’ve always had respect for them . The year after they played Indy at smaller place the Emerson . Tried to go and sold out.
@zacatkinson3926 Жыл бұрын
sold out? C'mon man
@byVariations Жыл бұрын
@@zacatkinson3926 he means the place sold out
@travzimmerman1340 Жыл бұрын
"a basement ahow" isn't a show. It is bothersome noise @ a house party.
@kevinroulette Жыл бұрын
@@zacatkinson3926 the Emerson sold out the place they played .
@Decimator-jh4gu Жыл бұрын
@travzimmerman1340 Basement shows are some of the best shows, man.
@craig2196 Жыл бұрын
I love that blink was just minding their own business making the music that they wanted to make, which is the entirety of punk doing what you want no matter what anyone else thinks. That's the definition of punk, making your own way. Then Green Day became what thet fought against for years, the same over zealous critics gate keeping punk away from the rising star that adds more pop elements to the genre. It's cannon that Green Day is the Anakin Skywalker of punk/pop punk lol. They were supposed to destroy the shitty elitist, yet they became them.
@alauer2008 Жыл бұрын
true and real
@catsupempire3920 Жыл бұрын
Pop disaster tour green day got cheered and blink was boring and short
@craig2196 Жыл бұрын
@@catsupempire3920 if they were that bad, they wouldn't be as popular as they are.
@catsupempire3920 Жыл бұрын
@@craig2196 but it was true of the time
@groowanderer Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you, along with a lot of others, simply hate them for being so extremely successful.
@PhantomFilmAustralia Жыл бұрын
"Boulevard of Broken Dreams" ripped off from "Wonderwall"? No way that would stand up in court.
@eri4t4rk4 Жыл бұрын
I want to watch an interview with Noel Gallagher talking shit about Noel Gallagher.
@giorgiokwiatkowski5481 Жыл бұрын
Johnny Rotten complaining about Green Day being sellouts must be the funniest thing ever, considering Sex Pistols were unable to play properly and they were a marketing move from 2 wannabe stylists to sell their “fashion” to the masses. That have to be the reason why Billy Joe says GD are inspired by The Clash.
@DarkSkies72 Жыл бұрын
What’s the “R word?” Being PC blows. Grow up.
@user-vi3bm2mx2h Жыл бұрын
It's a literal slur
@drippinglass Жыл бұрын
Gary. The R word. 😁
@alderoth01 Жыл бұрын
Its funny to hiw Greenday has basically made millions off being hated lol. They were hated and called sellouts when they did their first record. I believe they were even banned from playing at the local club they frequented as kids lol. Its just how they roll I guess.
@Jakejackson1980 Жыл бұрын
You can’t knock green day for changing as time went on or selling out. The sex pistols released 1 banger album. If they released more you never know what could have happened
@pollosantamaria Жыл бұрын
Yeah "banger" album, sex pistols where the first punk boy band
@Itelkner Жыл бұрын
@@pollosantamaria No such thing as a punk boy band - that's a dancepop concept. The Pistols were originally formed in 1972 by Steve Jones and Paul Cook - band members - and their mate Wally Nightingale. Bassist and songwriter Glen Matlock joined in '73 and John Lydon in '75. They were a rock n roll band that later in '76 got tagged punk in the British press. The term "boy band" didn't even exist until the nineties. Nothing to do with the Pistols.
@TheJoyrunners Жыл бұрын
@@Itelkner Thank you for correcting that. People always bring up this narrative about the Pistols, but it’s just not true. Malcolm McLaren tried really hard to make this narrative stick, and he was pretty successful.
@Itelkner Жыл бұрын
@@TheJoyrunners Yes, you're welcome. Malcolm's re-telling of the story stuck in a lot of people's heads. Thing is, the music developed before the image and the chaos came. That album was highly influential on many. All the biggest rock acts that came later - U2, Guns N' Roses, Nirvana, Metallica, Oasis, Foo Fighters, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Green Day, Pearl Jam plus a ton of underground bands - ALL cite "Never Mind the Bollocks" as a HUGE musical influence on them. And it's down to the power of the music and the excitement they generated in 1976 BEFORE the craziness and chaos came. Glen's Small Faces-influenced songs were amazingly well-written and anthemic. Lydon's lyrics, presence, and attitude - amazing, Steve's monstrous slashing guitar sound that only he can quite get. And the sheer power and tightness they had as a unit live. Those are the things that established them and drove their success - before the press craziness of 1977, starting with the Bill Grundy show.
@WaveMurray Жыл бұрын
Imagine being hurt by a member of Third Eye Blind. So soft.
@xx-qv9tp Жыл бұрын
Imagine being a lefty whose hurt by everything. P ussy
@punkrockstormchaser Жыл бұрын
No the third eye blinds bassist tackled mike and they got into a fight that’s why
@a.williams1945 Жыл бұрын
3eb was a different entity in the 90s then the soft, lazy thing it's become in the 21st century.
@zacatkinson3926 Жыл бұрын
3eb are very good dude
@zacatkinson3926 Жыл бұрын
@@punkrockstormchaser Why did he tackle him?
@chanchaniceman Жыл бұрын
I don’t think Green Day and blink had any sort of animosity between them. Mark had himself pictured wearing a Kerplunk t-shirt back in the day. Mark wished Billie Joe well after he got into rehab. Mike Dirnt gave the drummer Travis Barker a bass as a gift then late gifted Mark hoppus one of his signature basses in a Mark Hoppus themed color
@Borax15 Жыл бұрын
They did have some slight little beef towards the end of the tour but all is good now
@chrisheathcote3697 Жыл бұрын
I'd rather listen to The Offspring more than Green Day or Blink. Their albums after "Smash" wipe anything Green Day has released after "Dookie" (or Blink has released after "Dude Ranch" or "Enema of the State") off the floor.
@metalgod6998 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. Not to mention, The Ramones wipe Green Day, Blink-182 and even The Sex Pistols off the face of the Earth.
@kevinmatheson-fi7jt Жыл бұрын
Offspring jam
@trixonic6934 Жыл бұрын
I like the offspring but every song in their discography sounds exactly the same just like everyone of drakes songs. Green Day kept experimenting with their sound through the years and put on some of the best live shows I’ve ever seen whereas most live offspring shows never lived up to my expectations. I’m seeing them again with less than Jake pretty soon and still hyped on them since that was the first CD I ever got
@michaeliniga7958 Жыл бұрын
Offsprings songs "Pretty Fly" and "The Kids Arent All Right" were smart in there day, but in retrospect it shows they were prophetic genius's. Offspring called it how they saw it, with no filter and a realistic sense of foreboding.
@jiveassturkey8849 Жыл бұрын
The Offspring was good in their prime. They are trying to be too political now. Noodles wearing the BLM shirts ruined them for me. And honestly, while they had great songs, some were just stupid.
@ryplay08 Жыл бұрын
Even if they are “corporate rock” they are still one of my favourite bands
@jooson2826 Жыл бұрын
Poor tastes
@JasonPyne Жыл бұрын
Blink-182 is better. What I find funny is they kind of embrace the whole corporate rock thing while Green Day denies it even though it's painfully obvious.
@thh4584 Жыл бұрын
I can't stand there political hypocrisy.
@jooson2826 Жыл бұрын
@@thh4584 *their
@thh4584 Жыл бұрын
@@jooson2826 Grammar cop upset.
@ratgodmetalsupertvshow9718 Жыл бұрын
People hate Green Day because they're a fake punk band. And Billy comes off as a diva as well.
@WoodsboroPunk11 ай бұрын
If you’re gonna cry & talk shit, at least spell his name right.
@threwanade Жыл бұрын
I remember the third eye blind thing: Green Day was supposed to play quad twisted Christmas but the venue people came up and said Green Day had to postpone due to third eye blind guy hurting dirnt with beer bottle. One cool thing happened: greenday themselves refunded everyone’s ticket AMD promised to play the next year. The dueche move they did was they didn’t show for no reason just didn’t feel like playing that’s all I went to see and they flaked
@lukekilloughery4510 Жыл бұрын
Jealousy never spoke a kind word.
@PaulSmoker420 Жыл бұрын
🤣
@flowerchild89 Жыл бұрын
So true!
@eddietat95 Жыл бұрын
#1: Green Day did sell themselves out to the establishment and that's why Johnny hated them, but that's the most rock n' roll move ever. #2: Third Eye Blind was always intoxicated and saying/doing stupid sh*t, but that's also the most rock n' roll move ever.
@MrJC1 Жыл бұрын
Can't get more generic pop punk than green day. Its safe punk.
@morrismorrisson6161 Жыл бұрын
Pop punk has always been safe. Nothing wrong with that. Just having the word punk in your genre doesn't mean you have to be fighting the system every fucking song
@MrJC1 Жыл бұрын
@@morrismorrisson6161 green day tickle the system. Haha.
@robertwells6454 Жыл бұрын
I don't even think Punk should be used in a description of Green Day . IMO that's not Punk. Maybe heavy pop is a better term for the 💩 song's Green Day plays. They suck bag's of D!CK's on loop. 🤣👌
@LetsGoMetsGo33 Жыл бұрын
@@morrismorrisson6161 there’s definitely edgier pop punk bands tho. Try the Dwarves, the Queers, even NOFX for example.
@davidroberts7282 Жыл бұрын
That kind of goes against everything the great proto-punk bands like the MC5, Dolls, The Stooges sort of stood for and represented. There wasn't anything safe and family-friendly about traveling down through downtown Detroit in the mid-late 1960's in a very edgy, violent part of one of America's most deadliest, crime-ridden cities and a city that in the summer of 1967, experienced one of the worst race riots in U.S. history that killed 43 people(33 of them African-Americans), caused hundreds of millions of dollars in damage, exerserbated and accelerated the exodus of upper/middle-class whites and blacks from the city to suburbs like Pontiac, Smithfield, and Eight Mile, precipitated a long and painful social, economic and population decline of a city that used to be one of America's wealthiest, progressive and most diverse demographics in the nation. If one visited the old, demolished Grande Theater and saw the MC5, the house band, it was like watching controlled, musical chaos erupting on-stage every night. It felt to many like a musical Revolution was occuring alongside a political one.
@Decimator-jh4gu Жыл бұрын
G.D. is just a phenomenal band.
@doofwop7 ай бұрын
phenomenally sh*tty
@EhFookinShark Жыл бұрын
Blink 182 doesn’t hide another guitarist behind the bass amps and drum kit
@doofwop Жыл бұрын
oh snap
@J0stAn0therJ0hn Жыл бұрын
Probably politics or just that they are all personably insufferable.
@theoo.2019 Жыл бұрын
to each their own, but you dont need to be that rude
@johnthemachine Жыл бұрын
they seem down to earth and humble when compared to someone like dave grohl imo.
@ZombieDowneyJr Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call it a resurgence persay, it's just that the band swiftly evolved to match the rising change in how the sound of music in general was changing. Green Day changed with the times and evolved, as where the Sex Pistols were terrible people in their interviews, treated their fans like sh**, and never evolved their sound just for the sake of their own egos. Third Eye Blind was never even a band worth listening to. My guess was Salazar just wanted to throw that beer bottle at the nearest person available, knowing they were replacing his 1 hit wonder garage band on the charts. P.S. @4:03 NOFX waddup!! Facts are facts, Dirnt speaks the holy word! I just sat and listened to Wonderwall and Boulevard back to back to see where the idea the song was ripped off comes from. I hear the guitars are tuned the same buuuuuttt... to call Boulevard a rip off of Wonderwall is like saying Apples stole all their flavor from oranges.. That's just some bullsh*t right there..No big surprise though I guess.. He also got all pissed off about Dave Grohl just... existing?
@FreshhSqweezed Жыл бұрын
Blink hating Green Day? I’ve never heard that and I grew up being obsessed with both bands. They went on your together
@mattdrummond9087 Жыл бұрын
Look at all these "pureists" acting like green day isnt good enough for them. Oh, my favorite punk band is a pure punk band....and sold a grand total of 568 albums....thats real punk." Gtfoh with that shit. Fact is that green day is more successful than any other punk band in history. Most of them combined actually.. if you wanna be a purest, thats fine.... you are missing some great music.
@middleman9183 Жыл бұрын
er, punk rock ended in 1978
@chrisescarcega3106 Жыл бұрын
Funny that on the warning tour Green Day slammed Blink at a show I went to in AZ then a couple years later toured with them.
@probablylarsulrich5654 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't be the only time that GD bit the hand that fed them...
@chrisescarcega3106 Жыл бұрын
@@probablylarsulrich5654 no surprise
@georgehoward9306 Жыл бұрын
Keep on Rocking
@andrewp1075 Жыл бұрын
Green Day? Not my tempo.
@thenewzealandgringo9296 Жыл бұрын
Probably due to the fact they support mainstream liberal views of the world, but pose as anti-establishment. Johnny Rotten is spot on with these posers!
@anthonysclafani3963 Жыл бұрын
Criticizing Bush during 04 was anti-establishment. Dixie Chicks got blacklisted for doing it. You just want to hate GD cuz they got popular. If you think GD's the only band to sell out and sign to a major label, you should really google what labels a lot of famous punk bands are signed to lol.
@wildcardartsent Жыл бұрын
@@anthonysclafani3963That is a good point. Dave Grohl said MTV should stand for "Mafia Television" in the early 90's then goes onto do tons of Apple promos. That is selling out lmao
@gummiewormproduction Жыл бұрын
0:50 I'm pretty sure he said the other meaning of "content", not "in a state of peaceful happiness" but "the material dealt with in a speech, literary work, etc., as distinct from its form or style." Just saying the word was pronounced wrong
@barnigranero5882 Жыл бұрын
The problem a lot of people have with Green Day is that punk is political and anti establishment. Green Day weren't but still claimed to be punk. In an era when we really needed bands like Green Day to be political, they were promoting apathy and stoner culture. This was really frustrating to have to listen to when you could see what was coming and yet we had Green Day hogging the airwaves. They only became political when it was profitable for them to do so and that was when it was too late.
@manuelmendez6022 Жыл бұрын
Damn I never saw it that way, that's spot on.
@pmaster1173 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s also because Punk is stupid. “Let’s make songs that we make sure doesn’t reach out to as many people as it can, and if it does, it’s counter productive.oh and let’s get back to working at McDonald’s once we are 40 and realise playing for 10 people in an abandoned garage won’t sustain us”
@madmartigan1634 Жыл бұрын
Green Day has always been a very queer band which is the essence of punk: inversion
@barnigranero5882 Жыл бұрын
@@madmartigan1634 Not really. They were promoting stoner culture. That's niot punk.
@barnigranero5882 Жыл бұрын
@@pmaster1173 The members of the Clash aren't doing that. Nor are the Sex Pistols!
@jonathanfriedman7430 Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t Wonderwall have the same chord progression/structure as every other basic pop song?
@aquarius5264 Жыл бұрын
most of these are pretty valid points
@veenoir1991 Жыл бұрын
Not really, it's essentially a bunch of other industry goons acting like they're more punk than other industry bands.
@anthonysclafani3963 Жыл бұрын
Nah not at all. J Rotten sold out to butter commercials and the Pistols were on a major label. PIL was on a major label. 3EB was dumb drunk fighting that got out of hand. Blink famously sucked live for a while, and GD was responding to an interviewer that was trying to start drama. I like Blink but GD's always been far better live. Noel can't copyright a basic chord progression, and he can't criticize copying after Oasis basically copied the Beatles.
@Meela9088 Жыл бұрын
Just here to say the sex pistols hated green day. They called them posers
@jg7102 Жыл бұрын
Man i love Green day from 1989-1995. So many incredible albums great memories. Everyone has their own opinions I get that.
@beng2440 Жыл бұрын
@redlightflash ?
@lordhighwind6230 Жыл бұрын
Green Day is the definition of selling out. I couldn’t think of a less “punk” rock group.
@thh4584 Жыл бұрын
@@lordhighwind6230 Political punk hypocrites.
@travzimmerman1340 Жыл бұрын
@@lordhighwind6230 Blink 182
@mantra510 Жыл бұрын
That era was literally the only good era of Green Day
@allanvanuga9196 Жыл бұрын
Great video.
@bjmarchives Жыл бұрын
Noel should have never said that to the press haha, he openly admits to taking form other songs.
@Ervinabrahamian Жыл бұрын
He's an honest man, you gotta respect that, it's a very rare personality trait
@Jackswan87 Жыл бұрын
Plagiarism isn’t okay because you’re honest about it.
@Ervinabrahamian Жыл бұрын
@markjackson4176 He didn't plagiarize, he paid writers
@Jackswan87 Жыл бұрын
@@Ervinabrahamian pre or post lawsuits?
@Ervinabrahamian Жыл бұрын
@markjackson4176 Honestly I'm not sure, I'm not even that big of a fan of his
@KenLieck Жыл бұрын
You say that in an undated interview conducted by a fan, Blink-182's Tom DeLonge used "the R-word" in describing Green Day's Trey Cool. That's a pretty serious accusation to be tossing about -- has any evidence come to light since then indicating that the latter might indeed be guilty of s*xual misconduct with fans or some other form of non-consensual or predatory behavior? Or was "r*pist" perhaps not the "R-word" you meant? Okay, I'm sure it *wasn't* the word you meant, to be honest, but I thought it best to call your attention to the possibility of a misunderstanding and danger of resultant repercussion before you make another, potentially more serious error of this type. You see, I feel it is my responsibility to make such pronouncements because, unlike yourself, I have accumulated enough knowledge and general life experience over my six decades on this planet to guarantee that there is zero risk of my clear and cautiously worded statements being misinterpreted, and thus no chance I might find myself falsely labelled as a "grammar N-word". (There's no charge, and you're welcome!) Whoa, wait! That's not what I meant by the "N-word"! I meant the *other* "N- word"! *You* know the one! Damn it, what's wrong with this fcuking edit button? Why won't ths piece o shithe phone delete!?! *DELETE!!!* GodDMNiT youu mOTTErfeCKEr whatsSSh the big dele... ¢¥ *✓]^€€ RHG4&* "";$33 --&%@^^-- ^ ™>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>......................,..............................................................................................................................
@BezoomyKoshka-ip4dz7 ай бұрын
Yeah, all this "R word" "G word" nonsense is destroying our language
@Ctworld15 Жыл бұрын
Has Johnny rotten ever actually liked anything?
@SteveDorrans Жыл бұрын
Himself mostly
@brocklanders6172 Жыл бұрын
Van Halen.
@Mmmleftovers Жыл бұрын
Beans on toast, mate.
@cooperminion8257 ай бұрын
Money 💰💰💰
@mcgavin098 Жыл бұрын
Rock stars having problems with other rock stars. I'm shocked! 😂
@michaelpacinus242 Жыл бұрын
0:49 it’s not called “content” as in a state of contentment, it’s “content” as in the thing you make
@data0126 Жыл бұрын
just came here to say my only hate towards the band is hearing the same couple of songs by them on the radio every single day. every time i hear that opening line " do you have the time, to listen to me wine" i immediately yell NO and i have to punch my stereo off
@cooperminion8257 ай бұрын
Lol
@SlashManEXE Жыл бұрын
It’s funny that half the Misfits love Green Day, and half hate them
@thomasnickel1278 Жыл бұрын
Billy has his own brand of eyeliner. Green gay
@justinharvey1355 Жыл бұрын
I'll take Discharge, Agnostic Front, Cro-Mags, Black-Flag, Minor Threat, Bad Brains, The Varukers, Chaos UK, Anti Cimex, Asocial, Nausea, hell I'll even take the Sex Pistols any given time of the day over Green Day -whatever that even is supposed to mean. That and Billie Jo Armstrong is a very strange guy anyway. Just one of those characters that I never really cared for.
@nixilaas807111 ай бұрын
Johnny Lydon is also hard right wing, which is kinda ironic
@vi0letcr1me Жыл бұрын
I always thought Blin 182 and Green Day liked each other.
@avalanchecannon7911 Жыл бұрын
When is tackling someone a joke? Mike had every right to be pissed off.
@cooperminion8257 ай бұрын
Probably gave him a flashback of Mudstock where he got tackled by a security guard and ended up with some teeth getting knocked out and a cracked elbow
@mikesmith1778 Жыл бұрын
Billie is definitely a DBAG!!
@thelordofdarkness141 Жыл бұрын
I used to love green day and still like the albums before American idiot, I font mind some of the tunes on American idiot but for me it was that album where I went off them Billie seem to have grown rather arrogant as well
@spanky9676 Жыл бұрын
Green Day is the textbook example of being in the right place at the right time.
@theoo.2019 Жыл бұрын
true, but we are very fortunate they were there, as they provided many timeless classics in the 90s and 2000s
@godwarrior3403 Жыл бұрын
@@theoo.2019 Ikr. They wrote some of the catchiest rock songs of those decades that any local band wishes they came up with but they were in the "right place at the right time" haha
@thh4584 Жыл бұрын
They just jumped on the political band wagon at the time.
@theoo.2019 Жыл бұрын
@@godwarrior3403 yeah they had pure talent, plain and simple. One of the most impressive parts of Green Day's music is the bass in their 90s albums. Those bass fills/lines are much harder to play than they sound. Never heard another band or artist that has had that many impressive bass fills/lines, one of the things that made them so special
@rancidnut Жыл бұрын
@@theoo.2019 M8, have you even heard of Rancid??? Matt is the best bass player the world has ever seen. My 12yr old daughter can play greenday bass.....
@billiecobain Жыл бұрын
what is blink 182 or johnny lydon? never heard of them.. sorry
@jimmymeridian517411 ай бұрын
Jonny Greenwood from Radiohead hates Green Day too. When his fav guitar was stolen back in the mid-90s, he said his biggest fear was someone playing something like Green Day on it lol
@dopleksi173610 ай бұрын
It's actually funny cause they are both my favorite bands😂
@jonnuanez7183 Жыл бұрын
4:39 What's the R word?
@Jezballz Жыл бұрын
r...e...t...a...r...d.
@valmarsiglia Жыл бұрын
If punk rock were Italian cuisine, Green Day would be Pizza Hut.
@nemanjamirkovic6536 Жыл бұрын
Pizza Hut is Italian cuisine.
@valmarsiglia Жыл бұрын
@@nemanjamirkovic6536 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@devonpoland5597 Жыл бұрын
Of all the things were said, I’m most blown away by Noel Gallagher saying Boulevard of Broken Dreams ripped off Wonderwall. The verses have the same chord progression but they sound nothing alike at all. Millions of songs share chord progressions 😂
@ThePhobos100 Жыл бұрын
There is 12 possible notes, they are bound to sound similar to something
@elarr8733 Жыл бұрын
The "R-word"?! Christ, social media is ruining communication. Sorry...the S-word M-word is ruining communication.
@wolfliege Жыл бұрын
Just say you can't communicate without slurs bc you're an idiot and move on.
@a.williams1945 Жыл бұрын
I'm know. Censorship is retarded
@zacatkinson3926 Жыл бұрын
Tre was the "R" word? meaning what Racist? what's the "R" word?
@elarr8733 Жыл бұрын
@@zacatkinson3926 I assumed it was the word "retard".
@kevinburnett5475 Жыл бұрын
@@zacatkinson3926 "ret***d"
@BudgetGuitarShow Жыл бұрын
Hahaha, the Pistols would have reformed without Green Day existing. GD should remember, they owe more of a debt to The Ramones than any UK punk.
@dontgetmarried Жыл бұрын
Wasnt The Sex Pistols a literal corporate band? If memory serves a corporate guy formed the band
@icemanire5467 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call a small boutique clothing brand a corporation. Vivian Westwood definitely went on to make a name for herself in the aftermath.
@knkaitlog Жыл бұрын
idk man, always knew billy joe was an asshole but I love their music lol
@apocalypsepow Жыл бұрын
That's why I love johnny rotten
@the406seadonkey6 Жыл бұрын
Why? Because he's a professional miserable contrarian? Good luck in life pal.
@icemanire5467 Жыл бұрын
I love him too. He speaks his mind. Don't always agree with him, but what you see is what you get. The guy also has a big heart underneath it all.
@felixmalotka6680 Жыл бұрын
6:00 Mr Gallegher..what a luck you never heard the T.Rex song "Get it on" before you did "Cigarettes and Alcohol" on the guitar!
@yigitbozok2508 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, albums like Dookie, Nimrod and Insomniac make Blink's entire career look puny in comparison
@theoo.2019 Жыл бұрын
Blink 182 is not anything special anyway, just a group of the most average pop punk band with awful vocals
@MistKittMan Жыл бұрын
Idk man. EOTS, TOYPAJ, and Self Titled all did really well back to back
@lamipalma Жыл бұрын
Yeah, when I saw the list with bands like Blink 182 or Third Eye Blind, I was like... "so what?" lol
@TheWonderer7 Жыл бұрын
You should never drink the bong water
@godwarrior3403 Жыл бұрын
I'm totally guessing and may be wrong, but I'd guess Blink is actually bigger than green day. As far as sales and number of fans. Me and my ex are the only two legit green day fans I've ever known in my 30 years. But I could throw a stone and hit a blink fan anywhere I go it seems
@mordaciousfilms Жыл бұрын
Not my favorite band in the world, but early GREEN DAY is on heavy rotation for me, whereas I've never liked Blink or Third Eye Blind and John Lydon's output with PIL, thought inconsistent, is miles better than the Pistols. Speaking of the Pistols, they WERE an advertisement, a band assembled by fashion designers in the scene. None of these people are in a higher position as far as integrity goes. They're all out there trying to make money and be popular, why hate on another band for doing the same thing?
@1977WasPeak Жыл бұрын
How can you not like "Dude Ranch" & "Enema of the state" or "Take off your pants & Jacket" blink tho? Those albums are JUST as good as early green day
@miguelorozco4445 Жыл бұрын
Joey Ramone loved Green day and the Offspring so his opinion > Poser Rotten
@anthonysclafani3963 Жыл бұрын
Joey Ramone was always way cooler than JR. Love the Pistols but JR's always been desperately attention-seeking and unpleasant to be around. Dude's just pissed GD got popular and the Pistols didn't, which is hilarious cuz GD's at least been on an indie label and Rotten never has- Pistols were on a major label and so was PIL. JR's been corporate his entire career lmao what a hypocrite.
@ackerjawaka19667 ай бұрын
It's not just rock bands that can't stand them ⚡
@Petequinn741 Жыл бұрын
Other then Billie stealing an English accent in his singing they're not punk, they're pop with distortion
@seanmckelvey6618 Жыл бұрын
so basically most rock music since the 70s?
@1977WasPeak Жыл бұрын
No
@protomike5694 Жыл бұрын
A quote from Green Day I Don't Care.
@richardwillson101 Жыл бұрын
I was one of those screaming English kids on the DVD back in 2005, me and my best mate flew down from Scotland to attend. Greenday had been a band for the same length of time that I had been on this Earth. American Idiot soon became the reason I went off Greenday. Too mich politics and not enough fun IMO. Songs about drugs, poo and being a teenager have plenty of fun in them! And they are still gaining new fans evedy day. Quite an achievement.
@healthiswealth1452 Жыл бұрын
I have watched bullet in a bible 100 times, it's epic haven't seen it in a few years now though, seems strange all the audience must have grown up by now
@Unlucky_Vampire Жыл бұрын
The interview part is muted
@tomkingston1468 Жыл бұрын
Green Day is about as punk as the Osmonds. Government Issue, Black Flag, Agression, MIA, Wasted Youth, Minor Threat, Adolescents DRI, Shattered Faith, Attitude Adjustment, TSOL, Descendants, Circle Jerks, Agent Orange, Dead Kennedys, Channel 3, Suicidal Tendencies, MDC, Reagan Youth, and another couple dozen core bands are actual punk. Green Day is bubble gum.
@anthonysclafani3963 Жыл бұрын
Punk isn't just hardcore lmao. Ramones and Buzzcocks were super poppy too and I don't see anyone saying they're not punk, those bands are 2 of the most influential punk bands ever. The entire point of punk was back to basics garage rock ie pop songwriting that cut guitar solos and rejected stadium rock. Christ you gatekeepers are insufferable and also very uninformed lmao.
@rancidnut Жыл бұрын
Correct, although I do like some Rancid, Bad Religion, Pennywise, NOFX etc.....