Rockstars & Celebrities Who Can't Stand BILLY CORGAN of The Smashing Pumpkins

Rockstars and celebrities who can't stand Billy Corgan
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Soundgarden, Courtney love, pavement,
The smashing pumpkins frontman and leader billy corgan has feuded with many bands and musicians over the years. Today let’s take a look at some of his more notable feuds that don’t involve ex-bandmates and if i’ve missed any put them in the comments section below.
Collective Soul
Collective Soul ascended to prominence in the mid 90’s with their 1994 hit single Shine from their debut album. The song was a huge hit topping the US Mainstream rock charts and it was also a crossover hit peaking at number 11 on the US billboard hot 100.
It was during that the time that Shine took off, The Smashing Pumpkins frontman Billy Corgan slammed Collective Soul in the press referring to Frontman Roland as a "shameless rip off artist" According to Cleveland.com Corgan was upset over how similar the song sounded to the smashing pumpkins track, Drown. Corgan was so upset that he sued Collective Soul in the mid 90’s but Roland was able to produce a demo of the song that dated back to 1989, which predated the formation of the Smashing Pumpkins. It was rumored that Collective Soul for their second album, which was self titled and came out in 1995 wrote a diss track about corgan in 1995 called Smashing Young Man. While Corgan isn’t named in the track there are lyrics like "synthetic-like," and saying he lives in a "self-lit spotlight
And as recently as 2020 Ed Roland gave an interview to Cleavland.com where he clarified what the song was about saying
everyone thought that because he was busy smack-talking about us all the time -- which didn't bother me at all. It's just a fun song, and the next thing you know Billy starts coming at me again and I'm like, "Dude! No, no no..." And finally, there was one point where I just said, "Yeah, it was written about him, sure. Whatever he wants to think, I don't care." But I love Smashing Pumpkins. If I ever met Billy, I'd tell him what a great musician, great songwriter he is. I've got nothing negative to say. I've got other things to do in my life than to bitch about people
The Smashing Pumpkins would surprisingly cover “Shine” at a show in 2010 briefly and heres what happened..” Whoa, heaven let your light shine down. I hate that song. What a rip off of my band. Fast forward to
2019 and Billy Corgan was answering fan questions on Instagram when one fan asked the frontman if he ever made peace with collective soul to which he responded ‘F*** Collective soul, now and always.’
Soundgarden
Billy Corgan gave an interview in 2012 with Philstar just before playing a show in the Philippines where he singled out the band Soundgarden who he labeled as a nostalgia act for making money off playing their old tunes. Soundgarden would reunite in 2010 after a 13 year break. Corgan would say there are bands that are essentially coming back to only make money playing their old albums &maybe somewhere in the back of their minds they are thinking that their might be a future. I'm not in that business obviously. .I condemn anybody whose in that business, but doesn't admit he's in that business. When Soundgarden came back and they just played their old songs. Great! Iwas a fan of Soundgarden. But call it for what it is. They are just out to have one more round at the till he'd say.
The same month Corgan appeared on a a radio station and seemed to indicate that it was Soundgarden frontman Chris Cornell who started the feud the frontman told an interviewer in 2007 that he didn't consider the Smashing Pumpkins reunion at that point in timeas he put it to be legitimate. In 2007 Corgan had reunited with original drummer Jimmy Chamberlin but not the rest of the original band, leading many in the press and in their fanbase to criticize Corgan. Corgan would claim in that same interview
An Cornell would retaliate a few months later in 2012 telling ABC Radio
"When Billy Corgan was completely broke, I got him a movie deal with [director] Cameron Crowe where he made $40,000. He was very happy about that, and he was specifically happy about the $40,000. So

[@rnrtruestories]

Fan of The Smashing Pumpkins? Also, tomorrow is truly going to b a WTF kind of video...

[@josifyyy]

Yessir one of my favorite bands

[@bigmike5785]

Yup

[@nataliep501]

No

[@wesleyalan9179]

I'm a fan, back in my teenage years and my 20s, I was a very big fan. I hardly listen to the Pumpkins much these days, but I still like them,yes

[@AutismRocksOfficial]

Siamese Dream probably my favorite album of all time.

[@gasaddict]

I sat next to Billy at a Sonics game years ago and he was so friendly even to my weird uncle who kept singing his songs. I had to apologize for my uncle and he just said never apologize for idiots in a laughing manner. Then he bought me a drink.

[@nikomahal]

I can see him being nice to fans but really competitive and unkind with other musicians

[@darrenthetuber743]

@@nikomahal he's a shark, he does not play friendly with bands, he has pop ego in a rock and roll world, but I think him being an intelligent observer makes it hard for other musicians or bands to trust him because his intentions aren't always clear (is he sizing me up, is he judging me, etc)

[@BurningEmerald]

Yeah I met him once in 2019 and he was as pleasant as could be.

[@DragonZombie2000]

... that's not very nice

[@sdm1568]

I bet if you were a trans woman, he probably would have threatened to bash your head in.

[@georgehenry76]

I gotta stop learning about the private life of the musicians I like.

[@Dark_Harmony]

I gotta stop wanting to be friends with all the local musicians I like. It just gets weird. Not like, in a good way.

[@drewskkiiii]

Right!!!

[@johngeiger3770]

How about meeting them personally and learning it yourself first hand if that's possible. Stop having so much faith in second hand information. It's rarely what people make it out to be because it's subjective impression. Create your own. My personal experience with artists that I like have been really great.

[@devinschwartz7596]

Maybe use your brain and make your own decision idk

[@Void-Knull]

you probably shouldn't trust everything you hear

[@pfg_pedals]

Billy’s a genius. Ask him and he’ll tell you.

[@Revoltmetal420]

😂😂

[@brandonharris9160]

Better than Cobain that's for sure

[@artpassos]

Cobain's vocals are infinitely better than Billy. Songwriting too.@@brandonharris9160

[@jr2904]

​@@brandonharris9160 sure buddy, Cobain didn't need to be a "genius" to become huge

[@goobergoon6177]

LMAO

[@YodatheHobbit]

Billy is TOTALLY in that business. I saw them a month ago and they played half hard metal type stuff, half their pop hits. TONS of nostalgia.

[@Calenrandir]

Saw them in SLC in August and it was incredible

[@gNome_5]

Maybe just not enough anyway? Lol! 😅

[@farrah9748]

🌸 hearing them live will make you young 🌸 🎶 🎃

[@matthewgabbard6415]

If a band that’s been around that long didn’t play any of their hits nobody would ever come see them. They aren’t relevant anymore, and that’s ok. They came out of a very niche scene to begin with and now they just returned to it

[@katiewatts1659]

@@farrah9748hearing them live will make you su!icdial, his voice is phuqqin terrible.

[@robcharette1915]

Very few artists can keep it together when they become super famous. Billy seems to have good qualities and bad, same as most of us.

[@AxleTrade]

At best, Billy is a musical genius with a fire in his heart that just kept roaring throughout the years. At worst, he was a control freak isolated in a bubble he refused to leave even at the cost of his bandmates.

[@biopsiesbeanieboos55]

It proves that the spotlight is a magnifying glass. Every single trait is magnified.

[@brenetssss]

Bullshit

[@biopsiesbeanieboos55]

@@brenetssss use your words…more than one at a to me is best.

[@fabioguarda6199]

exactly what I thought.

[@Yankeefan2807]

I’m surprised this video isn’t an hour long.

[@floydsemlow8253]

Or has it's own series.

[@bobthebear1246]

Beat me to it. 😂

[@kevintd9900]

They cut it short

[@srt4b]

because most of the beefs are fake.

[@extendedplay8830]

😂😂😂 I’m from Chicago- I have grew up around Billy Coragan Billy is just a Midwest guy I’ve seen ppl hating on BC I really don’t know why 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

[@MrHubb1]

All that matters to me is that The Smashing Pumpkins wrote some great music that helped me when I needed it.

[@onionheadguy7094]

One of the best bands ever no doubt.

[@LastBastian]

@@onionheadguy7094 No Doubt is fine too, but I prefer Smashing Pumpkins. 😋

[@whenfatkillsfat803]

Just like Morrissey. They helped me out but they turned into wankers. Cogran is more Lou Reed ish in that he'll go either way. Moz is just a crashing bore.

[@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777]

yeah they made it specially for you - did you try nirvana flavor ?

[@GrantValdes]

*write. ATUM is miraculously good, from a 55-year-old, and is one of my personal favorite SP albums already.

[@gabrielestanga]

If you have anything bad to say about Chris Cornell, then it speaks volume about you. He was one of the kindest souls in rock n roll's history.

[@Sam9wilson9]

❤

[@TheHippieLounge]

Facts

[@_Listen_to_Solar_Kama_Sutra]

Aside from just being a kind soul, he was also one of the top 5 best rock singers of all time, no dispute. Billy Corgan isn't even in the top 100.

[@shannonharrel1388]

Even beyond that, what billy accused them of doing is exactly what he has done multiple times

[@sparkyguitar0058]

And probably the ONLY person that Corgan regrets messing with. But honestly doesn't sound like he was raised right. Needed a switch on that ass at the proper time.

[@ZioG]

I and other 70ish people met him in Milan back in 2005, he actually organized the meeting. He played a few songs and answered all of our questions, shook hands and signed autographs, allowed videos. He only strictly asked not to pose with him for pics. Chillest dude ever.

[@nomadscorpio]

I grew up in Chicago, and in the 90's I owned a valet parking company. I had several accounts at night clubs and billy showed up one night, I believe he had a Ferrari, we talked outside for about 10-15 minutes, he was genuinely very nice to me, I play synthesizers and I asked him about his gear, what he likes, etc... He was super chill about all of it and it was something I will always remember.

[@19822andy]

Apparently the Ferrari dealer sarcastically asked him how he planned to pay for his car. Billy responded "Cash" and opened a bag full of money he had with him. 😂

[@ogopogo1397]

yeah he liked to be worshipped and you supplied that

[@McHale72]

He was nice to you because he needed something from you. Had you bumped into him out on the street that conversation wouldn't have happened. Instead he'd have said something douchey and told you to F off.

[@SmokeMeth-us7qs]

Congratulations Billy Corgan treated you like a human being

[@Domn879]

@@McHale72uh-huh. Everyone talks to the valet for 15 minutes or they don’t get their car back. Everyone knows that.

[@jeremyt2212]

Billy Corgan vs Anderson Cooper, now there's a celebrity beef that I didn't see coming.

[@LordSlongo]

Corgan loves his kitties 🐈‍⬛ 🐱

[@jaredmitts5203]

The funny part about the furniture commercial one is I bet that had as much to do about Billy promoting his wrestling as it did about selling furniture.

[@dougodyssey50]

Cooper is a genuine establishment hack of the highest order. Any smart person would call him out.

[@Dark_Harmony]

Anderson Cooper gives off creep vibes without saying a word.

[@watchmanschannelofdespair]

@@Dark_Harmony That because he is.

[@AintNobodyAtAll]

I'd like to see a fued between 1996 Corgan and 2023 Corgan.

[@florptytoo]

Oh, me too!

[@1TightMinute]

@@AintNobodyAtAll I think “Zwan” corgan vs modern corgan would produce the most fireworks.

[@MandaMalice]

There are tons of reasons to give Corgan crap. Him supporting hometown/local businesses and organizations isn’t one of there. That’s probably one of the few redeeming stories I’ve heard about him. One of my favorite Love quotes is when she said that the song was about a guy she hexed and his hair fell out then kicked into Violet.

[@educateme8455]

Anderson Cooper

[@kaylons]

Yeah Corgan is an egotistical ass but supporting local business is actually cool. Cooper is really just too posh

[@moonlily1]

It's a bit goofy and uncool but there's no law against being goofy and uncool. He's right wing conspiracy theory nut Infowars nutjob now, that's reason enough to laugh at him, that and his insufferable arrogance.

[@dookiejohnson81]

Douche bag cooper ripping him for helping a charity .wow.

[@murk4552]

​@Jeffery Tornado the 3rd a crackhead, hate crime loving conspiracy theorist being your shining example of character doesn't surprise me of your ilk. Corgan is in no way like Jones lmao

[@timoraymo]

He’s honest. And mostly right with his points. I’m not even that much of a fan. But he doesn’t filter his thoughts. Hence why people think he’s arrogant. I find it liberating.

[@martymccoy5178]

I love that he was on the cover of Paws Chicago

[@adrianlee3497]

I was born in Chicago, one of the best things I remember about it was the Vienna Chicago Hot Dog take outs. I would've loved to see him do a commercial for them.

[@Trentstone121]

His ego is more famous than his band. He's a hell of a songwriter, but his ego makes it feel gross to say so.

[@tiediegymnasts920]

He's definitely big in that area

[@davidaaronartist]

to think that the artist has to be the ideal of moral and goodness is naivew art and artist are different things but in this post modern age we live i know is hard for you to grasp it

[@residentpotato6023]

Well he called out CNN as fake news way back when so he was right about that.

[@SlaughteredDecay]

One of the reasons I have never cared about them.

[@Trentstone121]

@@residentpotato6023 is politics your whole personality? Grow up.

[@irenicus9]

Not sure if it's a feud but in a NOFX song the lyrics go "egos get as big as Billy Corgan's"

[@simonjones3863]

Billy is slowly morphing into Uncle Fester.

[@Maldoror200]

@ simonjones3863--💀..Hmmm.., actually, not so "slowly"..(!!)

[@Mollikar]

He reminds me of a few friends of mine from way back, conceited yet usually friendly that is until they have either a professional dispute or someone eats their ice cream they wrote their name on in the fridge.

[@ashleybrown4754]

I'm not the biggest Corgan fan but wtf is wrong with posing with cats? It humanizes him more.

[@thepedalreview]

Now you need to make a video about what happened between him and D’Arcy.

[@Dj.MODÆO]

long story short she had some demons and while she was talented, it gets irritating as fuk watching an opiate addict co worker nod off and fade out while your supposed to be working/performing.

[@KuLaydMahn]

They did release a video about D'Arcy recently. I don't know if that's in it but I would think so?

[@wangson]

From what I understand, she lives somewhere in seclusion in Michigan and is beyond help due to addiction issues.

[@SyphusBatterus]

There's plenty of videos about what happened with her.

[@ashemarsh699]

unfortunatly he wrote the songs he wrote the music they dont get royalties i think billy is a selfish dick but truth is he wrote the music to the smashing pumpkins nothing proves a band members talent like where they go after they break up. the beatles had three song writters all three had hits after the break up. the pumpkins have one somg writter the rest are just backing members

[@ScottMasson]

You should do a video about how the music industry has been bullying him since Day 1. If I was Billy Corgan, I’d be sticking up for myself a lot too.

[@Daves_not_here_man_]

Thank you! Dude was pigeon-holed as just another grunge artist. BC has given us some incredible music, and did it despite everyone always talking sht.

[@KingSlimjeezy]

He’s a Chicago boy. Don’t gotta worry about Billy not standing up for himself

[@aidan673]

I wouldn't call what he's done in terms of calling out artists as "standing up for yourself". Dissing a band because they choose to play some more popular, older, maybe even more "radio friendly" songs? get a grip. has this dude never been to a concert??

[@aidan673]

going on record and bashing another artist is fucked up. especially when they've done nothing wrong to you or anyone else in the first place.

[@threeleggedman]

@@aidan673 Especially when the other artists are way better. Corgan sucks on vocals and guitar. Never understood what people like about that crappy band.

[@Geolaw1]

It's probably easier to list the rockstars who don't hate Billy Corgan!

[@TheSamdroidOnline]

Billy Corgan is his own worst enemy.

[@reprintranch]

"I wish I hadn't contributed in even the most miniscule way to (Chris Cornell's) unhappiness. But hey -- I've still got my forty thousand bucks."

[@peterrhines1516]

He also made it about himself, interesting.

[@mikec5400]

it was Cornells 40k to begin with

[@tball5677]

Dont blame Cornells weakness and mental illness on Billy.

[@leosuniverse]

Totally. ppl dont get what a socio he is. I covered it.

[@isoufo]

From what I've heard everyone loved Cornell. Haven't seen another musician talk shit about him... granted I haven't looked. Corgan seems pretty egotistical.

[@warbound91]

Wow thanks for reminding me about Collective Soul. Never knew the name of their band but knew their songs, really well. So much nostalgia from the 90s. Really good band they were one of the few rock radio bands I could tololerate

[@adamdavidsoddities8573]

Their 2nd and 3rd albums are great! Granted Shine is on the first album

[@mphillips4324]

Collective Soul is fk'ing amazing.

[@michaelm.2842]

Shine from Collective Soul was created as an influence from the sound of Kings X, as much as Billy wants to claim it as his own. And I'm an SP fan through and through

[@MFgabesylar3030]

One of the latest funniest Billy Corganisms that happened was when Corgan was being interviewed by Rick Beato on KZbin and somehow STILL was able to be pissed at Cobain after he's been dead for 30 years. hahahaha.

[@lluewhyn]

I've watched some of Beato's interviews, and he usually gets a good conversation out of some normally prickly people, probably because he's such a good musician himself. For example, the Maynard (who can sometimes be really difficult) interview was really good because they'd talk about things like the distinctive sound of the Fairlight keyboard, something you *know* would never get discussed by an interviewer from Rolling Stone or wherever. I still couldn't bring myself to watch the Billy Corgan interview since he can easily become a douche for no reason.

[@kamest]

@@lluewhyn You dodged a bullet, in that particular interview he was suuuuper extra douchey. I was cringing the whole time. "He stole my guitar sound!" How old is he to still bitch about petty stuff like that.

[@MrAgmoore]

I've only seen the Sting interview. I'll have to search for the Billy Corgan / Maynard interviews.

[@rickstalentedtongue910]

@@kamest Especially when thing like that aren't true.

[@andyblue415]

I was quite enjoying that interview initially, and it seemed Billy was on his best behavior for awhile. Then at some point he flips the ego switch and everything changed. And I'm like, "oh right! This is the obnoxious cringe Billy Corgan I remember."

[@Static-ash]

No fued but fun fact: Corgan was in a band with Wayne Static called Deep Blue Dream prior to Static-x. Corgan quit because he was splitting time also fronting the Pumpkins and decided to focus on that. Crazy how the world works. I like to talk about Wayne anytime I can lol

[@lightfeather9953]

Interesting, I had no idea. I assumed Wayne's first and only band was static x

[@dust-dog]

Static-X were my secret 'guilty pleasure' band, back in the day (secret because I had to protect my 'extreme' music cred, which I thought I had)

[@Static-ash]

I loved Static-x, I still love them, I will ALWAYS love them. They've been my favorite since I was 14 when I 1st heard them in '99. Excited for the album coming out late this year!! No shame in my evil disco game lol. I guess I was a nu metal kid.

[@licklik666]

Curious where you heard this story. I was friends with both Wayne & Billy in this time. I recall them only jamming together and that was that.

[@leosuniverse]

Once billy left stardom hit for wayne.

[@drewbeedoobeedooooooo4821]

It’s tough to figure the man out. He’s constantly ruffling feathers, but his responses are so damn poetic and beautifully thought out. He’s at the least, clearly, an ego maniac

[@VolvoImpala]

Billy: Soundgarden are just back together to play their old songs. Call it for what it is. *In 2012 when Soundgarden released King Animal*

[@lluewhyn]

And had a new song on the Avengers Soundtrack.

[@VolvoImpala]

@@lluewhyn Right, was that released the year before? I remember "Live to Rise" was a hit and it was absolutely not a secret the band were working on a new album. They were even thinking of putting the song on the album but they didn't and surprise surprise the album was actually great UNLIKE THE LATE SMASHING PUMPKINS MATERIAL. I know they're releasing 33 songs this year and Billy is doing a podcast about it but the band have been a bit squiffy since Machina.

[@GrantValdes]

Well to be fair Corgan has released 10x the new material since any given reformation

[@VolvoImpala]

@@GrantValdes Billy Corgan was and probably still is the most prolific songwriter on the planet and I'm including Rivers Cuomo in that estimation.

[@parabolee]

@@GrantValdes Yep and it all runs the gamut of garbage to mediocre! I tried so hard to enjoy anything after Zeitgeist (which was average) and it's just crap. Thankfully Billy being an awful person has made it easy to move on.

[@mad_cat_1st]

I met Billy Corgan at the Club Soda in Kalamazoo MI after they played the State Theater with Pearl Jam and RHCP. Amazing show, and the whole gaggle of people went to the Soda to party after the show. He was standing next to the bar with his arms crossed (dude is TALL, if you haven't ever met him). I wanted to tell him how much I loved Gish and what I thought of him as a performer and he just yelled at me "Yeah, Man - whatever." I understand that he gets a lot of "fan-boy" shit from people like me, but if you don't like it, then why go out looking for it?" He's an a*^%ole. I'd much rather hang out with James Iha and/or Butch Vig.

[@stefanavic6630]

Yep, standing at the bar but not socializing and just being moody is a dick move.

[@RuiLuz]

I bet he was secretly wishing for people to interact with him so he can be a dick..

[@jasonjason7823]

I loved club soda. Best times there

[@mirellalastar]

I do not understand why you think that all celebrities should always be ON. Nobody is. Gish is old asf. My god, I hope this anecdote is not recent.

[@moonlily1]

I'm glad people still remember Club Soda. I saw L7 there.

[@joe_davola1085]

I don't know Billy Corgan personally, so I cannot state what he's like personally other than what I've seen since I was a teenager in high school (44 now....) Many great artists are eccentric and can come off as rude, but fact is there is always another side of the story and context which quotes from people that have had negative run ins with him doesn't really tell the whole story. I'm just thankful for the music he's made over the years.

[@rach6346]

Nah he's a wank

[@aidangreen419]

I think he had a pretty messed up childhood

[@rush1er]

Same age as u. Have you heard their recent release " Beguiled"? 🤘🤘

[@cjaquilino]

Low key, this post is a cope. You can't have this many negative accounts from regular people, bandmates, and fellow rockstars, including outright feuds with people and just chalk it up to "there are two sides of the story". Corgan probably *isn't* the bad guy in every dispute, but especially *given the history of his own freakin' band* at the minimum, he's conflict-prone.

[@doofwop]

@@cjaquilino Personally I just care about the music. I don't waste much on the drama or psychoanalysis. Also coping is something everyone does every day. Gonna have to pick another buzzword. If one spends more time criticizing the artist than the work there is something amiss. Like get outside & touch some grass. Low key, you're someone with very little life experience.

[@notchback93]

What saddens me the most is that Billy will never rise to the level that he lives in within his own mind

[@bangslamwham88]

Billy Corgan seems to have a feud with everyone in the music industry. However I've read multiple anecdotes that he's genuinely nice to fans.

[@Louis-ef4eb]

Like Candice Owens, he stirs up controversy in order to stay relevant...pathetic!

[@bri7757]

It probably kills him to be nice to fans

[@raqueledwards6061]

@@bri7757 us Pisces are only mean when we have to be when we feel people put us in that position otherwise were very nice and loving and caring people 💯 and we're genuine as f*** can speak for every Pisces but I know definitely I am👍

[@1985cactus]

@@raqueledwards6061 Attention: This person believes in horoscope. Avoid this person! I repeat, avoid this person!

[@morbidtoaster8615]

@@raqueledwards6061 exactly! And as a Pisces we never wipe our own ass, never wash our hands, and refuse to shower. Cause that’s how genuine we our.

[@kryptonitespider-bitedynam7305]

you'll never run out of videos to make about billy corgan

[@brandonavery133]

A ton of my friends grew up in the late 80s and early 90s Chicago music scene. One of them actually lived with D'Arcy at one point. I personally never met Corgan, but to this day, not a single person I know who knew him back then has anything good to say. My favorite gem, said to my friend after she rejected Billy by mentioning she was at the show with her boyfriend: "Do you want to go home with him, or do you want to go home with a rockstar?" Keep in mind, this was when they were playing 100 seat venues.

[@VuotoPneumaNN]

Yuck!

[@lluewhyn]

I just remember a quote from about 15 years ago or so when a fan was trying to flirt with him or something after a Cleveland show and he made a response in disgust like "I've never fucked a girl in a bandana before". He would have been around 40 or so at the time, still trying to live that rockstar life.

[@jonesy3553]

Well at least he was confident

[@leosuniverse]

his blog is horrific an he was predator . He stayed at a minors home hung with predators rhcp depp an mm did mega drugs. he bugged women on the street. used anyone to live with. Tried to rape a transgender then threatened them. He writes it openly an does not see he was the rapist. He preyed on the transg. to live with so he did not want to live in this roach place. He then tries to force his hands down on them for sex. They refuse. billy gets mad then threats them. crazy!

[@leosuniverse]

@@lluewhyn who th would flirt with him?

[@6j6666]

Can't help it, I love it when billy starts talking smack.

[@frankreads8618]

25 years later and Billy Corrgan is still pissed about Collective Soul, even after they proved in court that the song was older than The Smashing Pumpkins itself. No wonder so many people hate them.

[@Outlawgirl63]

And Nirvana

[@1TightMinute]

@@frankreads8618 you know it would be one thing if they didn’t achieve superstardom. If collective soul had taken their sound and became famous and they didn’t then I would understand. Collective Soul doesn’t sound anything like them other than all the music from that time period somewhat sounds the same, like any time period does for that matter. I never once listen to Collective Soul and pulled smashing pumpkins from it. What’s funny is he openly admits to borrowing and ripping off things from other bands like rush. I don’t get it.

[@MarkRoss-er4yq]

I have heard he’s a much nicer guy these days. Maybe part of it is because he became a Dad? 🤷🏻‍♂️🤔 Plus, he’s answered some of my questions on Instagram and I felt they were cordial responses.

[@Crodmog83]

Dont care what anybody says,Corgan is hands down my most favorite musician of all time. You cant deny his talent.

[@RetroSoulGirl]

Wow! I was watching this video to learn more about the Collective Soul feud he had and was very very happy to see my picture of Ed Roland used for the video, and with credit (I'm Brianna Hojnacki). Thank you SO much for that, and this great video!! Made my day :)

[@danielcluley870]

That's pretty cool.

[@ponchoedderds9598]

I remember back in the 90's when grunge and other alt. bands were all the rage, I was giving my teen brother and his friend a ride to some restaurant they wanted to be dropped off at. We were listening to the radio, and my brothers friend asked me. "You like Smashing Pumpkins?" I said, only on Halloween.

[@TwoBs]

Oh geez, are you related to my dad? I remember back in the 90s, we were outside listening to the radio and my older sister saying something like “I like Smashing Pumpkins” and our dad saying something like “well, they _are_ just cheap Halloween decorations.” My sister tried going on this long explanation about them being a band and him being old … but he cut it short and made it known that he definitely knew and didn’t care for them lol.

[@ponchoedderds9598]

@@TwoBs Ha, I like it. I remember thinking, never have I been so witty. Enough so that I always remembered that little quip. But truly, it was a very dad joke thing for a teen to say.

[@Ryan-gw1ob]

He got along good with Eddie Van Halen.... Even recorded a couple albums at the 5150 studio ... But Ed's one of the hardest guys in music to get along with when he was here ... So thats probably why! Lol

[@JuiceboxDesmond]

Eddie probably liked Billy because Billy is lo-key an insane guitarist. Eddie probably got stunned by some Corgan shredding behind the scenes and decided this guys alright. I am not a Pumpkins fanatic, but I did once meet Corgan in a vintage guitar store in Las Vegas and got to talk to him a little bit. He was awesome to me in that moment, but I could see that ego-twinkle in his eye.

[@adrianlee3497]

I wouldn't be surprised if Ed decided to randomly Billy for someone to talk to like he did with a few other people.

[@ZeroChannelZero]

Paws Chicago isn’t just a ‘cat magazine’. Anyone who’s involved in animal rescue knows how much work they do saving abandoned & abused dogs, cats & domestic pets. Anderson Cooper was trying to puff himself up with some contrived macho attitude, essentially saying rockstars should be throwing tv sets out windows, not showing compassion or sensitivity. I don’t know what century Cooper thinks he’s in, but the whole point of being a ‘rockstar’ is doing your own thing without conforming to expectations. I’d love to hear Cooper pick a fight with Type O Negative frontman Peter Steele for rescuing cats, or Ronnie James Dio for rescuing dogs.

[@Moonchacho007]

I saw them in the mid nineties and remember Billy saying something along the lines of “Better than Ezra will always suck!” Not sure what that was about but I cheered along with the crowd 😂

[@mqtty72]

Without Jimmy Chamberlain, there would have never been a Smashing Pumpkins.

[@JP-zi9mr]

Jimmy is great but Billy use to have major talent back when he was Influenced by Jimmy Hendrix, Led zeppelin and Thin Lizzy now he tries to hard to be like Depeche mode or black sabbath and it just comes out sounding really lame with no sense of melody or talent in any way he wont even let Jimmy play to his strengths on records any more.

[@mqtty72]

@@JP-zi9mr I agree Billy was a talented songwriter and guitarist, a perfectionist at that but without the kick ass drumming to distract from his grating, monotone singing, the band most likely would've never gotten off the ground.

[@misteress3840]

Chamberlain’s terrific!

[@kristopherguilbault5428]

Jimmy Chamberlin is .. was.. and will be one of the very best drummers of all time living OR dead...

[@haley-ss7nn]

​@@kristopherguilbault5428 always runner-up to Danny Carey tho ;)

[@pastorofmuppets1968]

Billy Corgans voice is as if you can hear sandpaper.

[@WinterInTheForest]

He literally can't sing. In some weird way it fits his music and adds an awkward uniqueness to it.

[@garysanders8000]

He is one of the shittiest singers ever. He has one of those voices that immediately has you changing stations

[@ledzep9943]

@@WinterInTheForest great guitar player

[@bubuzew]

@@WinterInTheForest nowdays he cant. back in the day billy had the best voice/chorus

[@robertdemmon9442]

I like Billy Corgan even more after this video and Anderson "mockingbird" Cooper even less. I didn't think either was possible.

[@MacDougalPuppy]

I don't see how you could cover the Soundgarden/Corgan feud without mentioning Spin magazine's April 1994 cover story on Soundgarden, in which Kim Thayil and Billy Corgan get pretty pissy with each other. Choice quote: "You hurt me deeply in my heart."

[@cris_261]

Smashing Pumpkins may have well been called The Billy Corgan Experience.

[@Gene_o]

That’s hilarious

[@djcrane65]

Billy is the real deal. F the haters and talentless backstabbers. Next subject.

[@venessalee2426]

I love him. He’s well spoken, intelligent, and not afraid to speak the truth.

[@kikib8434]

Back in high school - we were about sixteen I think so 1996/1997 - I had a friend whose brother saw Billy Corgan here in Ottawa at the Rideau Centre. Smashing Pumpkins were playing Edgefest or some music festival we had going on, and my buddy's brother went over very nicely and said "hey Billy, I'm a huge fan - would you mind if I got your autograph?" and apparently Billy just gave him an exasperated laugh, brushed him aside and walked off. An hour or so later, still at the mall, he sees Billy with a group of young girls signing all these autographs and being flirty and is justifiably hurt. This guy never got pissed about anything, but he walks by and as he's walking he shouts "HEY, FUCK YOU BILLY CORGAN!" and embarrasses Billy in front of the girls. Simple story but it just cracked us all up hearing our friend's sweet brother put Billy in his place so loudly and succinctly 😂 . I saw Smashing Pumpkins a few years later and they were fantastic, but yeah...fuck you, Billy Corgan 😋.

[@hemingwaysbeards]

My god I hope this is true

[@kikib8434]

@@hemingwaysbeards I assure you, it's true 😁. I've told this story to other friends over the years and any time a bunch of us get together now, if anyone jokingly teases one of us or does something dumb or gets pissy, someone inevitably shouts out "HEY, FUCK YOU BILLY CORGAN" and everyone just starts cracking up 😂.

[@hemingwaysbeards]

@@kikib8434 hahaha thank you for sharing this. I just love how that kid called out the great Billy Corgan and there was nothing Billy could do about it. This is coming from me, a fan of early SP but not a fan of Billy as a person. kudos to your friend's brother

[@kikib8434]

@@hemingwaysbeards oh my pleasure! Honestly, I'm glad you got a kick out of it 😁😂. And I feel the same - a fan of Smashing Pumpkins...not a fan of Billy and I love that my buddy's brother publicly shamed him 😋.

[@hemingwaysbeards]

@@kikib8434 Billy must have felt like a real rat in a cage 🙂

[@rustykrieger7181]

Anderson Cooper the music critic. That’s a laugh.

[@mrw1208]

Sounds like Corgan is not politic and just too honest for his own good. But he doesn't sound like a hateful guy. Doesn't sound like the kind of guy who'd say sweet things to the press to make himself look better, then passive aggressively try to destroy those he doesn't like.

[@timmo-x]

Saw Smashing Pumpkins in 97 in Memphis, TN. Their performance was subpar, like they weren't even trying. Mid-show, Corgan said "I detect a lack of enthusiasm in the crowd. Either we suck or you suck but we're the ones up here playing so you obviously suck"

[@Maldoror200]

@timothyblalock..💀..Mmmmmm,Classy..🥀🪱

[@MENFUSSMIKE]

Yea I saw them in Oxford MS in 94. He was antagonizing the crowd. Darcy was too to a lesser extent

[@the503creepout7]

Best part of the video - 1:50 Pumpkins start playing Shine & the whole crowd cheers & starts singing along. Then the band abruptly stops. Billy says "i hate that song" & all the fans start cheering for that sentiment as if they weren't just excited to hear Pumpkins cover a 90's classic. i guess you can get people to cheer for anything with a big enough speaker system.

[@TheMarquistador]

This was quite interesting. I've liked Billy since I was a kid, but with the caveat of "Billy's an asshole" Honestly, seeing all of these beefs explained only gives me more respect for him. He can be biting with his words, but he seems to choose them carefully. A real dude

[@SparkleNeely]

It’s funny because I think Kurt would have been like this if he lived, he was already dissing bands like Pearl Jam and even AIC at one point and of coarse GNR and Axl etc. Billy and Kurt are both Pisces and they had a lot in common especially talking shit lol. Gotta love em.

[@danielhall-wl4ql]

I hate that you compared the two but is true

[@bigol9223]

He was like that. I guess the difference is if you live then everyone calls you an asshole and if you bean your brains out everyone lights a candle to how complicated and tortured you were. Living guys can have struggles too!

[@jareddavidmanifold313]

I wasn't aware of an artist or musician that ever liked Billy Corgan

[@jonrobbin170]

Nobody looks at Smashing Pumpkins as a current ongoing group, making new relevant music. For most of us that listen to them it’s the era from the basement jam sessions to Adore that we really reminisce on and want to hear songs from and to be honest it’s really the Siamese Dream/Mellon Collie era songs that people really want to hear and there’s nothing wrong with that. Billy’s self-importance has always been the curse of this band and Jimmy ‘s always been the musical backbone. Billy is one of my favorite songwriters of all time and I’ve always loved his distinct voice, but the man should just let the music speak for itself and stop alienating people and try considering his bandmates as equals for once.

[@bradr3541]

Funny their new album says otherwise!!

[@jacksmith4460]

Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie are masterpieces, Gish is a bit meh and the the rest is turd

[@onyx2626]

@@jacksmith4460 I'm 58, and I support this message.

[@toddinthemiddle]

​@@jacksmith4460gish is arguably as great as siamese dream. melancholie is MEH

[@bigol9223]

I cant think of any band from the early 90s that are considered an ongoing group making new relevant music

[@baileyw6782]

You missed spat with Kim Deal (Breeders, Pixies) During 1994’s Lollapalooza she was quoted as saying of Billy, "I want that pill he has--the one that makes him think he's so fucking important." In a 2010 interview he said, "I played here in 1994 with the Breeders." He goes on to say, "Look at a picture of Kim Deal from 1995. She was a beautiful woman. Look at me now....the same. [ie “I aged better”] I was a prince then, and I'm a king now. I'm also a Queen."

[@Jackson-ng5ui]

Saw the pumpkins last September with the original lineup (minus Darcy, lol) and they sounded great. Billy had friendly banter with the crowd. it’s good that the old feuds within the band were resolved, mostly

[@TypeZeta2]

The only reason I don’t like Billy is he’s pretty big anti-vaxxer. Other than that I hold nothing against him

[@Bucketbrain82]

@@TypeZeta2 you got boosted? 🐑

[@laszlozoltan5021]

@@Bucketbrain82 you play russian roulette ?

[@Bucketbrain82]

@@laszlozoltan5021 ?

[@Void-Knull]

@@laszlozoltan5021 you responded to the wrong person

[@ErosGalaxia]

Billy really projects a lot and often does the things he speak outs against lmfao

[@SX1995able]

Like how he went on to do full tours playing the old albums back to back because he knows no one cares about the new stuff

[@matthewjones9237]

You forgot one feud: Between him vs. The Man.

[@ozarkoracle7389]

I've had the pleasure of meeting Billy a few times through the years and he is a really nice guy.

[@tw9535]

Why do people think that randomly meeting a guy on the street or in line at McDonalds is the same experience as working with him professionally?

[@redness1824]

Eddie Vedder's Prune Jam😅😂🤣😭

[@travisw.5116]

A few years back Corgan was in Pittsburgh I assume for a show. At the same time I attended our local VegFest and he was also there. There was a few pics of him chowing down on some avocado pudding I believe. I found it incredibly hilarious as he seems to take himself so seriously all the time like he’s some kind of mythical creature or something.

[@jeansbaggy2194]

LMFAO

[@jjdillon1207]

Vegfest sounds awful

[@travisw.5116]

@@jjdillon1207 vegfest is great. Billy Corgan is not.

[@toddinthemiddle]

Avacado pudding 🤮

[@travisw.5116]

@@toddinthemiddle it’s better than cow pus pudding.

[@yodaandjules29]

Billy Corgan calling Soundgarden a 90s tribute band is the pot calling the kettle black.

[@haley-ss7nn]

Dude..it's probably all about jealousy due to vocal talent lol....Chris had a range and power like few others and just conventionally unbelievably talented ...I love Billy's voice but it's always up for debate- either love it or hate it, it's not conventionally "good" lol. Billy's songwriting is where it's at though..

[@vicconn1050]

I love him. I can understand how someone as tremendously smart and talented as Billy might behave the way he does

[@cjaquilino]

…and it's not an excuse for any of the bad things he may have done. There, I finished that sentence for you. Hate this idea that having so called "genius" is something that should let people get away with treating people badly. He’s likely done good and bad, like any of the rest of us.

[@delilahsimmons1842]

​@@cjaquilinoRight? Im so confused why this viewpoint is so widely accepted

[@cjaquilino]

@@delilahsimmons1842 Right? And I didn’t even touch on how “genius” itself is a mythology and it’s usually a label disproportionately applied to only certain men.

[@JamesBond-pu6qf]

People who are unapologetic for their skills and disinterest in other people's bullsht are seen this way. I always like the saying- if you have a problem with someone, you have a problem within yourself

[@dg3513]

He was a really sweet guy when I met him

[@gilbertspader7974]

I can’t believe Mellon Head and the Infinite Baldness isn’t universally LOVED by all ???????

[@wauriel]

my dad and some of his old friends met him at a concert backstage back in the 90's and my dad always told me he was one of the nicest singers he met. also i love smashing pumpkins music, its my childhood really

[@toddinthemiddle]

He was of the nicest singers that your father ever met? That's a pretty odd fucking statement...

[@wauriel]

wdym@@toddinthemiddle

[@sirdetabbycat]

​@toddinthemiddle Funnily enough, alot of people have either had amazing person experiences with him or found him to be a huge jerk

[@themadmattster9647]

If she makes Sharon Osbourne mad, then he’s doing something good for the world

[@BigBandelero]

Some of this behind-the-scenes drama is exhausting. Wow. From a total non-fan, it’s clear SP made a massive impact on the 90s and rock music in general. I wasn’t a fan back then, but years later I find myself actually ‘studying’ their work. That should say it all right there.

[@myrden965]

I was lucky enough to meet the Pumpkins after their Glasgow gig back in the 90's. Great bunch. Apart from Billy who was an absolute bell end.

[@thatdudepulledupmaddogin]

All those haters didn't stop him from smashing Jessica Simpson back when she was sooo fuking sexy. Probably one of his biggest accomplishments in my opinion and that's no slight of his song writing.

[@ashuosake2323]

I love that cover of Paws with him. I want a poster of that shit. Such a beautiful smile.

[@TheMan750]

“I don’t want R.E.M’s everybody hurts being used for an Excredrin’s commercial.” Yeah, I’d rather listen to it as background music for Jimmy Kimmels Mean Tweets

[@Bat_Boy]

The creators of South Park said, they make fun of anyone who takes themselves too seriously. So, it’s great that Billy tries to deflate that whole “rock star” image, by doing the “cat” and “furniture” thing. His problem is he gives more oxygen to his critics than they deserve, by clapping back.

[@gregcowen930]

Well said, very well said

[@stuffedanimalparade6240]

He loves pro wrestling. I am sure he did it for that reason alone.

[@mirellalastar]

Very true. His clapbacks are lame.

[@IIISWILIII]

Corgan is my only childhood hero whom I'm sure I would hate if I ever met him in person

[@CasaDeJoker]

I felt the same when I met Stephen Jenkins from one of my favorite bands “Third Eye Blind”. So sad. So unnecessarily sarcastic and completely full of himself. I literally just stopped listening to anything past Dopamine. I just cant. Anymore. Lol The guys in XEB (ex members of 3EB) Kevin Carogan, Tony Fredinelli , and Arion Salazar were SUPER GRACIOUS when I met then in 2017 in Columbus Ohio during their version of the 20th Anniversary of the self titled album. They all signed my Telecaster guitar and Its one of my prized possessions. Sorry I made this more about Third Eye Blind than Billy. Better topic IMHO. Lol

[@SerpentStar_]

Wise men once said - never meet your heroes and familiarity breeds contempt. It's so true

[@midasiscariot]

No, he's clearly very nice to his fans.

[@quoththeraven3985]

Billy stopped a concert to tell at me once, no joke He called me 'Angry 90s Guy" good times!

[@twenty3electronics]

I think he has matured the last 2 or 3 years

[@seekthetruth824]

It would be cool if he did a concert with Ricky scaggs and Julio Iglesias where they sang each others songs

[@codexnecrogeddon]

I saw SP for the first time in 2017. For the entire show, Billy had stylized pictures of himself being projected on a giant screen behind him for 3 hours while they played. In some of them, he appeared like some kind of messiah. I finally understood why people don't like the guy.

[@WetPaintChi]

I think it’s more like an autobiography photo album style… if the pics weren’t huge then no one in the back could see them. But I get how you got the impression you did

[@seanbs]

Billy also feuded with The Used's frontman Bert McCracken or whatever his name is

[@TheSpecsShow]

Oh really?! I'd love to know more, where did you learn this? I love both Billy and the Used's music, so this really interests me

[@seanbs]

@@TheSpecsShow It was around the early 2000's. Bert was dating Kelly Osborne and Billy was beefing with Sharon at the time. Billy and Bert ran into each other at some festival or something, and got into a fight. I can't remember exactly.

[@anotherpeasant]

Corgan and Love are meant for each other and deserve each other on so, so many levels.

[@geraldfriend256]

Aww. I meant to say Ew, but I stumble over words.

[@kristopherguilbault5428]

@@geraldfriend256 😂😆🤣

[@haley-ss7nn]

Hahaha yes

[@lovedeathdisco]

amen 💯✔️

[@somersetcace1]

The only musicians that don't make at least some enemies in the industry are pushovers. It is VERY difficult to navigate that industry with integrity and commitment to ones art and not ruffle feathers. There are exceptions, but they're few and far between.

[@deepeemac]

I'm pretty sure there was some beef with the Breeders back in the 90s - I remember one of the Deals saying something like "I need the pill - the pill that makes him so f**king important." Don't know why that stuck with me.

[@gordonwolf9336]

I watched Billy Corgan in an interview he was cordial but it was still obvious he was difficult at best.

[@Fireguy65]

He is a good dude overall. Everyone is flawed and can be scrutinized especially when they are in the spotlight

[@ryanmccullion4492]

There are plenty of people in the music industry that are not well liked. Doesn’t mean they’re not talented. Which he is.

[@yummico]

He's a really mean guy. My friend was a big fan rang up to talk to them on some radio show. And they teased him for his name. He then went to the gig and got yelled at by Billy saying all you people suck, f you all. He was so confused he paid $ and loved them. And they were just jerks. Especially Billy

[@bubuzew]

if you were not there. youre not allowed to comment

[@boogaethje]

Billy is very talented and intelligent. He also has a tendency to come off as arrogant , snarky. Not sure if that’s always deserved. Seems like he’s just very focused and gets irritated by others not on the same page.

[@ShamoaKrasieski-xm4ze]

The fact that Billy Corgan has controversy around him proves he is a legitimate rock legend.

[@melodioushaste]

I've loved the Smashing Pumpkins since the early 90's, and I overlook a lot about Billy Corgan in order to still enjoy his music.

[@p0479]

Vid of the day. Great work!