Gurren Lagann vs. Kill la Kill: A Thematic Rundown

[@willwallz]

-Watched both of these shows in 2014 *-Still piercing the heavens*

[@naoseipraquevlog]

You sir, said everything

[@peynnep6483]

Drilling trough the heavens and won't lose my way :D

[@dantecrottogini529]

watched both in 2019

[@starrja]

Are you still piercing the heavens to this day?

[@willwallz]

@@starrja Yeah absolutely. What the fuck is this comment?? When did I write this????

[@gizzylaserfoot2604]

Gurren Laggan and Kill la Kill have SO many amazing characters like *SATSUKI* , Ryuko, Mako, Kamina, Yoko, and Simon. I’m just happy to spend time with all these amazing characters.

[@passalapasa]

SATSUKI TOP WAIFU

[@megankasa5203]

Congrats on 100 likes

[@ivanvenne]

@@passalapasa In my OPINION, Satsuki is ugly. Now though, Ryuko is a different story. Seriously, I feel the reason that these characters are top waifu in my opinion is that the characters are really well written. It isn't like other where they just have a girl for the sake of being pretty which also have no personality.

[@moobattle]

@@ivanvenne unfortunately, your opinion on Ryoko is wrong. Kamina is objectively best girl.

[@davidsplooge14]

@@moobattle wait...

[@Maze-]

Gurren Lagann is anime that you watch with your friends. Kill la Kill you watch it alone

[@MaxonerousX]

Then I guess it says something about me because I watch gurren lagabb alone

[@MaxonerousX]

*lagann

[@frydfish4934]

YFKRZ for......reasons

[@ESPmrBrough]

i watched both alone then again with a friend

[@mrvaldemar66]

i watched kill la kill with my mum...

[@NeverwascooL]

Kamina's death joined the my very short list of anime deaths that actually made me cry R.I.P Kamina and Maes Hughes

[@chaosundividedreborn]

God damn it, dont make me remember that................-starts crying-

[@scotishjoe]

and rip usio and nagisa

[@RJ-ot1bb]

KZbin Subscriber Clearly you have seen very few anime deaths

[@NeverwascooL]

__RjAzrl I think you underestimate the goodness of my dark soul

[@greghmn]

What about L? Granted, his death (or Light's) was necessary for the plot to continue, but that almost made it worse.

[@ohnoherecomescommonsense3853]

I love both shows

[@innerpeaceatrest3193]

And like neither. Your move smart guy!

[@Ouchthathurt843]

Yas I am bronze Did you forget the "I"?

[@SurprisinglyDynamicAnimeSideC]

What happened to all the comments? Did the flame war on this video get so intense that it turned into an ACTUAL war and only a handful survived to tell the tale?!

[@manuelalbertoromero9528]

...Maybe.

[@fatguyfrommy8421]

yeah, the war lasted for a month now...lost all 5 limbs and thanks to text-to-speech device, all is well and both sides decided to agree to disagree.

[@JesusHankChrist]

I still hear the missiles

[@LeocobraRM]

Keyboard Warriors has lost the war to Anti-Criticism back then, hence why they hid away from this vast wasteland back into their basements. But it seems like they already came out of their holes and took this comment section back.

[@excitedcat9517]

OG veteran: (Smokes pipe) Damn...at times I...I can still hear the screams...the ripping and tear of...bones and flesh...the images still show up in my dreams...all because of which bust is better...yoko or ryuko....

[@crimsonherald3890]

Finished Kill La Kill today. I feel empty. I got the same feel after i finished Gurren Lagann years ago. Both of them are amazing with over the top action scenes, really good OSTs, VA and overall style. Both of them were good and re-watchable. Both of them gave me goosebumps. Kill La Kill did ecchi right. It grows on you after a while because of the plot and the reason why the characters are sexualised. Every characters in both anime are memorable too. Can't do Vs between them man. It's real hard lol.

[@zerothehero123]

Kill la kill isn't ecchi.

[@max1133gg]

Did the same thing today. I want to come gere 5 years later and see if there's more comments about this.

[@hoppersfox]

Kill La Kill and Gurren Lagann both made me cry, so by my common sense, they're both amazing shows for me. Trigger just makes really good shows.

[@sakshyamghimire6435]

Gurren lagann is by gainax

[@hoppersfox]

@@sakshyamghimire6435 I mean Studio Trigger was founded by someone who worked at Gainax, so in a sense you can still consider it a Studio Trigger animation

[@e-male896]

@@hoppersfox also many of the staff for gurren Laggan worked at gainax and moved to trigger

[@iamgame_ing]

I don’t know too much about Japanese history, but I did notice a few parallels between KLK and WWII: - What are the students always learning about when we’re inside classroom? Right. The perpetual World War II lesson. - Ragyo’s theme (Blumenkranz) is full of symbols pointing towards eugenics, such as the symbolism of picking out the “best” flowers and turning them into a wreath. Plus, the song is (supposed to be) in German - This one is looser, but I was thinking that the mass-produced clothes are somewhat similar to the “non-Aryan indicators,” such as the yellow Star of David and pink triangle for Jews and gays respectively. - The Tri-City Invasion (I think that’s what it was called), as well as the rest of the schools taken by Satsuki, represents the expansion of Germany. I had more, but I can’t recall them at this ungodly hour.

[@GigaflareInNeutral]

Welll.......Good Job.

[@Netherdawg]

I would like your comment but it's currently at 69 and I'd rather not ruin it :D

[@Wortwort-Spooderbat]

Funny I never compared these two. Seen both and love both but personally I like Kill la kill more. It's one of my top favorite animes of all time

[@peynnep6483]

same, both are on my top 10 list :D

[@crohnicgamer5089]

TTGL FTW. KLK still good tho.

[@blancka4200]

Me 2

[@lollmao3247]

I love kill la kill.

[@pandagamer-hg5be]

Same, but the other way around

[@Atlink]

Fun fact: You're allowed to like or dislike what you want for any reason you want. Just don't be a douche about it. I'm talking about you, comments section. If you're going to say you dislike something, at least give a reasonable argument as to why, and then others can give reasonable rebuttals. Just because someone likes something that you don't, that shouldn't diminish your love for something that they don't.

[@Go-pi6pg]

Atlink Why the hell is this not the top comment

[@javierlim7952]

I agree. I mean just because you like something that others don't doesn't make them stupid or someone to be hated on. Everyone has different tastes

[@insulinus5787]

No u

[@dalecal1129]

And while we're at it, there's a big difference between disliking something, and saying that thing is bad. You're free to dislike whatever you want, but if you're going to chat shit about it, you need to back it up with reasonable arguments.

[@Burryto_boy]

I thougth you were gonna talk shit about gurren lagann bc of your profile pic but im glad that i read your comment

[@chillmydudes]

I believe that Gurren Lagann and Kill La Kill pose the same question, only reversed, as the anti-spirals ask if it is worth destroying by creating, whereas the life-fibres pose the threat of creation through destruction.

[@reimu3627]

That bit on duality being a major theme in Kill la Kill split my mind open, even the name of the show depicts duality pretty effectively.

[@T800BR]

i like how there's a two year gap between the first comment and the second

[@technic1285]

T8_00 Fuck

[@Fouxjin]

T8_00 Digi probably deleted a ton of comments

[@senateop9680]

There was a PURGE if i remember correctly

[@ryanstone9224]

With Gurren Lagenn I have a lot more memorable lines, even though I think there are a lot of amazing action and one-liners in kill la kill as well. My favorite scene is in Gurren Lagenn where Yoko, Simon, and Viral are all talking in the cell and Viral says "Ok and what are you gonna do to stop them?" and Simon replies "Easy, we destroy the moon"

[@Ilovevidgames123]

For me, it's the phrase "the lights in the sky are stars". That phrase is so powerful to me. It conveys so much hope, wonder, and aspiration. I get fucking chills when I watch that scene again.

[@Geassguy360]

IDK man, Ask not the sparrow how the eagle soars....

[@mousysaint9143]

I was too busy cringing at how dumb 90% of those *EpIc OnE lInErS* were in Gurren Lagann. Most of them didn't make any reasonable sense and was just garbage to sound cool.

[@Geassguy360]

'kay bro.

[@jonsnor4313]

And the soundtrack raw raw fight the power itself

[@kellharris2491]

"Ask not the sparrow how the eagle sours"

[@awesomesausome1557]

I just saved the sparrow from being eaten by an eagle IT BETTER TELL ME HOW EAGLE PHYSICS WORKS!

[@pandagamer-hg5be]

@@awesomesausome1557 *_like a drill!!_*

[@MADGuy248]

14:57 Oda Nobunaga is not a Shinto God. He was a shogun who started the unification of Japan, thus a very famous and significant historical military figure in Japan. He is often referenced in pop culture as a “demon” who is motivated with strong political ambition. The use of Honnoji in KLK is to emphasis Satsuki’s political ambition to overthrow her mother’s authority by echoing Oda Nobunaga’s ambition. So it’s not a Shinto reference, it’s a historical reference.

[@ryze2620]

both left a hole in my heart which can never be filled again rip

[@Amin-fj1lx]

>Uploaded 12 Jan, 2015 >Comments: 35 k.

[@Amin-fj1lx]

Malform Beats Chibi Reviews? NOT A REVIEWER.

[@Amunny]

WHAT

[@Amin-fj1lx]

AminLuffy What?

[@Amunny]

What?

[@Alienrun]

The comments on this video used to be disabled I think, so naturally I think due to youtube being youtube a lot of those were deleted (but some weren't?) :/

[@eike7131]

I actually enjoyed both shows. But kill la kill is my absolute favorite.

[@dragonpulse9977]

Same

[@kuzonai8436]

SAME

[@jamesmatthewg.santos3589]

"Also squidward" I died😂😂😂

[@geekmythologynerdic]

Squidward is in Gurren Lagann. Does that mean the animators enjoy Spongebob Squarepants?

[@dawidscheffler7152]

I loved both of them. They should not be a versus.

[@amj.composer]

Gurren Lagann was amazing..... But Kill la Kill was just a Masterpiece

[@cytorakk6378]

Aryaman Manish Joshi it's the other way around for me

[@ecosdesangue3605]

Masterpeece

[@MorgannaMGone]

Well it's not against the law to be wrong, you do you.

[@VTuberRuby]

Same situation man

[@chemicalbrother5743]

Yes, it is a Masterpiss.

[@thencsmaster4343]

Fun thing is I'm on an anime binge watch right now and I completely unintentionally watched these shows back to back

[@gabedamien]

2:50 Just FYI, "penultimate" means "almost-ultimate," i.e. "second-greatest" or "second-from-the-end". For example, Y is the penultimate letter of the alphabet.

[@damonenfurst6662]

I went into this video having only read the KLK manga and not seen the show. I was not aware how incomplete it is.

[@browntaxi7158]

I personally think Gurren Lagann was better. Not knocking Kill La Kill, it was great but I personally found Gurren Lagann to be better. Definitely liked Simon as the main character a lot more, seeing him grow up and mature was amazing. Also loved the connection between Kamina and Simon, they honestly where like blood brothers and the anime showed it multiple times throughout its run time from the limited 8 episodes and in future episodes after. Especially during that flashback Yoko had with Kamina saying Simon gave him strength to move forward and made all his big talk real brought a tear to my eye, because that showed us that they do rely on one another for support more than we realized. It showed us their “brotherly” love so to say, it felt a lot more passionate. Even though Kill la Kill had its fair share of passion and epic moments I felt Gurren Lagann’s had a lot more better handled epic moments and that’s probably because of the main characters of their each respective shows, Simon and Ryuoko. In Kill la Kill we are immediately shown how badass Ryuoko is, sure she fell from grace a few times throughout the show and had great character development but with Simon’s character development it was better, because when Simon is shown to us we immediately see that he’s weak and lacks confidence so seeing him grow into having those qualities and the show keeping on showing us that he can do it if he only believes in himself, it felt a lot more heart warming and meaningful. But, with Ryuoko she is shown automatically to be a badass and completely confident in herself till later on but seeing Simon grow up compared Ryuoko growing up definitely didn’t have that same impact. In the end I do believe Gurren Lagann to be better but Kill la Kill definitely isn’t meant to be looked down upon, it’s still a damn good show and there’s a reason why it’s compared to Gurren Lagann, that means it’s that good.

[@alifkembaraalam2487]

If someone ask me classic anime from 2010 s first thing i will say was kill la kill, not aot or trash sao. Kill la kill is original and fun, its hard to sit down and having fun when watching anime.

[@thatjrpganimefanplayerjusi8003]

Yes I totally agree with the build up of the hero’s journey definitely goes way more to gurren lagann I felt it right at the first episode and stuck to the end of the emotional epic growth journey and I didn’t regret it from a development grown character stand point gurren lagann has it all and even has the morale that teached me no matter how bad things get in life and what you lose you have to develop and move on for the better gurren lagann help me with my depression after I lost my father 4 years ago😢. I love Simon and how he develops as a character who went on as a weakling of just digging holes looking up to kamina and idolizing him then thrust into the hero’s journey of adventure and it changed simon forever he lost his best Bro he then Had to deal with his depression of loss as other did then in which Nia snap him out of then lost others on the way and in the end He even lost nia the girl of his life yet he still went on we all can relate to Simon as a character gurren lagann had a moral of life is F up but you still go on I found gurren lagann to be the anti optimistic counter to Evangeline when you look at the parallel context I can never stop making that comparison Now don’t get me wrong I love kill la kill satsuki is my badass waifu let me just get that clear ok LOL 😂 but to be honest kill la kill just didn’t have that same feeling growth impact on me that gurren lagann did. Ps boota is my favorite mascot of all time and of all anime who literally saved the characters on multiple times that adorable little pig mole.

[@rullocompressore1550]

@@alifkembaraalam2487 well AoT is still great, but Gurren Lagann will always stay on top

[@Plazmadragon18]

I watched these two back to back without even knowing there was a debate between them😂😂

[@GoodwinGhost]

Its funny cuz Gurren Lagann was my first ever anime and Kill la Kill was my second

[@timothymcqueen3408]

I think Kill la Kill beats it out for me because of character economy. Kill la Kill makes every character memorable and worth being on screen. They are all fun in their own way and evolve with the narrative, while also not taking too much screentime away from the main characters. On the other hand, Gurren Lagann has a supposedly main character, Yoko, who can be taken out of the story without much alteration, quirky but unimportant side characters that I feel nothing for when they all die in the end, and bland side characters that are technically important, but aren't that memorable. So, while I love both of these series, Kill la Kill has the edge for me.

[@Joseph_S_Clark]

Personally (when watching them back to back so no bias on when I watched it) and I preferred Kill la kill just saying. Give me points for or against if you can.

[@globnob]

based

[@philj9594]

Sometimes I get the feeling that people try to analyze a show to the point that they come up with conclusions that the writers didn't even consider when they were making it...

[@u.chimmagodsfavour2391]

I just finished watching guren lagan yesterday and I felt like watching it again. I also felt the same way after watching kill la kill. There is something in these shows that just makes me feel like watching it over and over again. They are really interesting and satisfying shows.

[@ДокторЯдо]

At last someone points out that these are two DIFFERENT shows.

[@foxking2349]

Dude I want to say I appreciate you making this video because I watched this vid 7 years ago and this is what sparked my love of anime. Bc I went to watched kill la kill and Gurren Lagann to see what u were talking about and love them so thx again man

[@Trixiethegoldenwitch]

Just doing my job :) thanks for watching!

[@Chronophasia]

I think both shows are equal. But I do like Kill la kill a little better because it got me into the show by the first episode while Gurren Lagann didn't really pull me in.

[@AngelofEresos]

Same.

[@marcopierini6405]

same

[@kozhikkaalan]

totally. the first few episodes of gurren lagann were really boring and unremarkable. But boy oh boy, did it really take off in the second half of the show. It was insane, the improvement!! On the other hand, my favourite episode of kill la kill is episode 1

[@dalecal1129]

Yeah, I had to fight my way through the first few episodes of Gurren Lagann. If I hadn't heard such praise about the show, I probably would've dropped it after the dogshit animation quality of episode 4.

[@moobattle]

to be honest, I liked Gurren Lagann more because I could watch it without getting yelled at for watching porn

[@louisduarte8763]

Very smart analysis of both shows. I don't even remember seeing any deeper references of themes after watching these shows, because everything happened so fast and crazy.

[@philj9594]

Tbh, I don't think there really even were themes that ran this deep but people will always pull these things out of their ass if they are big enough fanboys/girls of a piece of fiction. He sure did make himself sound smart when he talked though!

[@lardshank]

i don't think you know what "penultimate" means

[@thankyoubabyjesus1]

landbased yeah he doesn't. It means second to last

[@kozhikkaalan]

lol yeah, i was confused when he said penultimate too. I was like "did I miss something?". But it doesn't make sense. He sounds too smart to not know

[@dalecal1129]

He probably thought it meant "quintessential," or something.

[@rawfermews4186]

why does this thread have a bunch of assholes on it

[@SlurpeeTheUnholy]

I was about to comment the same thing but I figured someone else must've done so already and sure enough.

[@LittleAl016]

It probably helps that both of these shows have their own similarities to Xenoblade Chronicles (specifically the 1st game) as well. No matter how small said similarities are.

[@Zucchinna]

I love both, I cannot say one is better, but I did fall in love with KLK first. both are so incredibly inspiring

[@thomaspunt2646]

MY SCISSOR IS THE SCISSOR THAT WILL PIERCE THE HEAVENS!

[@stevethebuilderu4673]

*cut

[@edlo8548]

2 years later, this is still the best breakdown I’ve seen for either of the shows. Really good stuff! Personally though, I would’ve been okay with a full-length analysis.

[@hookedonafeeling9232]

this is a great analysis! :D you did a great job!

[@Thiccerito]

Gurren is about masculinity and Kill is femininity. It’s about how the human race can be amazing if we work together and how it can be terrible at the same time

[@scrubs9285]

I was feeling like a Trigger show so I watched the first episode of Gurren Laggan, and it didn't grab me at all. I ended up watching Kill La Kill for the first time instead, and I loved it. Maybe it's time to give Gurren Laggan another chance.

[@Netherdawg]

I haven't watched Gurren Lagann yet, but Kill la Kill has blown me away in every possible way. Also I must add, those two iconic songs - "Blumenkranz" and "Don't Lose Your Way" are beyond epic in their own means.

[@liquidjester8619]

12:27 what the hell? Why's Squidward doing there?

[@ilyjupiter]

this was my first digibro video and still one of my favourites all these years later

[@TheEndiPL]

I thought this whole time that Viral's name was just there to match the theme of Lord GENOME with his 4 generals named after DNA bits. Holy shit

[@skullsquad900]

I loved both, but since Simon pretty much mirrors my younger self looking up to my best friend, it's always going to be held above All others.

[@peynnep6483]

it's the 1 of the true "most relateble main characters" of all time

[@therisingtithes]

This is maybe the fourth or fifth time I've watched this video, and I only *just* decided to pause at 14:18 to realize that Nakashima is also referencing my all-time favourite Kamen Rider series, which led to me only just learning that he was Fourze's lead writer, and now I want to watch Fourze all over again. I wonder if Digi has watched any Kamen Rider or other tokusatsu, and what he thinks of it...

[@accidentaltoast9928]

Jesus fuck this studio is genius, how many anime are chock full of thematic references like these two?

[@basicallyedward]

Kill La kill is one of the most unique animes what I have watched, that made me feel like I was watching anime for the first time again. The work is action packed, has enough nudity that you don't need to watch anything nudity related for couple of years. In today's anime world. There are a ton of isekais, or something related to high school where main characters are in love put don't do about it for 2 seasons until they say I love you, and the series ends. The Kill La Kill brought back to me the thing why I watched anime. What it brought? Uniqueness, fun and going beyond all expectations. It was fun to watch. It will be remembered, by many.

[@negromancer.2685]

My mind is still blown that there was a George Carlin reference in the first episode of Kill la Kill.

[@gavinvales8928]

that thumbnail broke my brain

[@CFlandre]

I rewatched Kill la Kill for the second time recently. I'll say it here: I don't think Ryuko is a particularly strong or compelling protagonist. Her aim essentially amounts to "I want revenge for my father, and screw everyone who gets in my way, except my closest friends". She recklessly plunges headfirst into every fight someone picks with her, and the show actively rewards her (for the most part) for taking part in these aimless fights. She gets ludicrously strong very quickly, at no real cost to her. In the series, she has the least to lose if she fails, and is often swept up into the events around her outside of her own volition. Think about it: Senketsu forces himself on to Ryuko, forcing her to get stronger without an real understanding as to why. Ryuko's "losses" result from something Ryuko could not prevent or foresee. Ryuko didn't understand her familial situation at all, but it doesn't matter, and it doesn't change any kind of relationship dynamics. For the most part, Ryuko plays along with Honnouji Academy (go figure, when her best episode has her having some agency and CHOOSING to take part in Honnouji Academy's power structure, enriching the lives of Mako & Family). Satsuki, by contrast, is a MUCH more compelling character, driven by a set of deeply-rooted ideals, who doesn't always end up on the winning side of her fights. By the end of the series, Satsuki is a largely changed character from the beginning of the story, due to her experiencing failure on a fairly massive scale, something that she had dedicated a large portion of her life to. Ryuko just beat the main bad guy. That's it, really.

[@peynnep6483]

Ryuko is a merry sue? :D

[@CFlandre]

@@peynnep6483 It can be argued, yes. At least, I think so.

[@kilato9649]

@@CFlandre I don't think so

[@brookboi_6992]

I came off of kill la kill with it in my top 5 and im really trying to watch gurren lagann but I think I need to settle down from KLK bc it's too slow for me rn but I can tell it's really good

[@soloflare9696]

I like the very clear symmetry you use in some of the images in the video, encapsulated by the background image being a symmetrical image of the earth with orange and blue on opposite sides.

[@Thiccerito]

Both shows are great in their own way and I love both of them

[@dhanendrra]

Hands down best analysis

[@jadiv]

It's unfair when you monologue over don't lose your way, it just makes it more epic and powerful

[@cliffordcanaday7010]

Gurren Lagan is by far one of my favorites, I watched it when it first came out and finally just watched Kill la Kill fairly recently and it was also amazing. Both were way more philosophical than I thought they would be and resonated with me in a big way. Both are a must watch in my opinion.

[@kekoa0z]

yall remember when Ryuko was fighting the Elite 4 and she synced with Senketsu and it made the glowing spiral drill sound?

[@seirramoon388]

yknow what woulda been amazing, if someone out there made a crossover between gurren lagan and kill la kill (tho I'm sure there's a fanfiction of it somewhere on the internet)

[@n00bfishie]

Seirra Moon -- There actually is a crossover of Kill la Kill and Gurren Lagann already -- it's called Space Patrol Luluco. It's by Hiroyuki Imaishi, the same director as both KLK and GL. It's on Crunchyroll. (The crossover just isn't obvious until several episodes in.).

[@DTBluesreviews]

Both are some of my favorite anime of all time

[@heehomgee4671]

I love both of these shows so much, in fact Kill la Kill was the first anime I actively set out to watch and I adored it to death. Then, when I heard they also made Gurren Lagann I set out to watch that and cried like a baby. God I love these anime.

[@MrOmegaFree]

YES my brain was bow out for a while while I get some of the idea from kill al kill

[@JoeSakana]

Kill La Kill has better pacing and is my personal favorite of the two. It has a really weird lighting-in-a-bottle feel to it, the way it seems so loose, messy, and all over the place, yet comes together to create something more than the sum of its parts. Gurren Lagann feels so stiff storytelling wise (by comparison), even though in my logical brain, I feel like it is technically "better". It's an excellently told hero's journey that escalates beyond imagination, but in the end it's just a hero's journey. Kill la Kill, on the other hand, is just something that feels completely unique. It melds all types of anime stories together to create something that feels fresh. And I think its antagonists (Satsuki, Ragyo, and Nui) are what really give it the edge over Gurren Lagann. I love everything about those 3 characters. Satsuki in particular being one of the greatest, most badass anime characters of all time, in my opinion.

[@Drafonni]

I like the characters and animation in Kill la Kill more and the story and pacing of Gurren Laggan more. That is all

[@eathotdog]

The themes displayed in each series are so different the only comparisons I made were baseline story beats, Like the 4 generals trope and both having a big twist reveal about halfway through.

[@benjaminhancock4114]

Hey DigiBro, Just wanted to say, Great job on this video. I think that Both Series are amazing and similar but also very different.

[@Chrissmth]

Dang this my understanding for these shows is much deeper than before

[@philj9594]

Did it make your understanding deeper, or did you just adopt someone else's half-baked ideas about the show because he conveyed them in a really official sounding manner via a KZbin video with tons of views and likes?

[@seawed3414]

Just realized this was uploaded in 2015

[@RoddyRodbb]

Wow, and I just watched both of these for the first time in the last week! Lol

[@KaptainKommissar]

7:12 RIP annotations and my dreams

[@spider13593]

Watched klk first and gurren second, I def preferred gurren, it stuck out to me so much and honestly changed my life.

[@felixm.geerken8433]

During the final showdown in Kill la Kill Ryuko kinda literally pierces the heavens, making the statement of this video kinda invalid. Kappa

[@AntoniyoGreenwood]

Totally got a sub outta me, this helps me tell my story using 2 anime I respect for a multitude of reasons

[@azendance]

This was perfect, thank you.

[@tab1965]

If kill la kill and grurren lagenn had a crossover I'd flip and this argument would end on which is better

[@youngsterjoey6209]

I...don't think you're using "penultimate" correctly there.

[@_V0RT3X]

Lmao he tried to be smart

[@Sheikxlove123]

Granted I'm mad late to the show but Gurren Lagann couldn't keep my attention pass the first episode, Kill la Kill is amazing!

[@Jokervision744]

I cant think, so I watch your videos.

[@takosalvix428]

Simone is pronounced "see-mone" just an fyi

[@somedragonbastard]

TakoSalvix Or sai-mon. Both work.

[@TeoTH80]

If you wanna do it the Japanese way, It's Shimon. シモン literally reads Shi-mon. The problem is how he pronounce it, as most people who doesn't speak Japanese do. Kiryūin Ragyō will be pronounce as Ki-RYU-in RA-gyo if you don't follow the Japanese way. Japanese pronounce their R as a light tap, whereas others make it a hard tongue-rolling R. The problem is the same in Gurren Lagann. it becomes Gu-REN Lagann.

[@takosalvix428]

TeoTH80 ohhohoho! how i do know about that! thank you ass class

[@TeoTH80]

TakoSalvix you're welcomed, clown-face

[@NeverwascooL]

Gurren Lagaan and Kill last Kill are some of my favorites because they gave me that same feeling as the first time I watch FLCL just something so different than want most people I know are watching it feels like I'm the only one watching such a great anime and that's what defines good anime to me. if it makes you feel like it is amazing then dammit it's amazing

[@dashman8499]

Personal opinion, I think there are points in which Gurren Lagann surpasses Kill La Kill, but Kill La Kill is better as an narrative. Lagann s first half is great but suffers technical problems, while the second half suffers pacing and narrative issues. Kill La Kill felt completely in tone and fluid the entire time and really broadened my scope of what animation can be. Both of these shows really inspire me though

[@foop145]

I know this video is pretty old, but I watched it recently, and my initial reaction was "there's a debate on this? Gurren Lagann is clearly superior." However, with your video in mind, I went back and re-watched Kill la Kill, and I just wanted to say thank you. Maybe it's because I'm older now, but I liked it 10x more than I did when I originally saw it. It really does a fantastic job of working contradictions in all over the place and blending it all together. I don't know how I didn't pick up on this theme in my initial viewing, Satsuki's opening line something like a minute in is "Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!" Again, thank you. This anime went from maybe a 7.5 to a 9-9.5 in my book because of the points you make here.

[@boofiman6082]

Kill la Kill wins hand down. I felt like I was the only one bothered by Gurren Lagann’s reliance on “BELIEVING IN YOURSELF”

[@dragonpulse9977]

Yeah people often say Gurren Lagann is better just because they watched it first, and they call Kill la Kill shallow without even digging into it's depth

[@blulu8620]

kill la kill was personally more enjoyable to me, but gerren laggen is also really good

[@luckynumberseven1774]

I never knew that both shows had the same people. I watched Kill la Kill first then was somehow drawn Gurren Lagan. Watched both back to back and completely fell in love with both, but when it comes to impact. Gurren Lagann has made an impact on how I think. Yet I think that both are equally amazing.

[@sewerat2947]

Might be a bit late to comment but i think that matoi's goku costume is really a jojo reference because both have the hat blend in with the hair

[@dragonpulse9977]

(Ryuko) Matoi doesn't have a hat. I think you mean mako

[@danbark4603]

DIGIBRO i need to understand something real important about Gurren Laggan, the question is: what should i take from Simons story in general due to the fact that even though the story suggests that Simon is an individual of his own ideals after his growth, and yet he still feels like nothing more than a Kamina clone??? im not even joking seriously, the problem is that after Kaminas death everything Simon does is done in the way that it feels Kamina could have done later, so please hear me out. my main problem is that i honestly loved all the characters from the beginning, Yoko, Simon and Kamina especially, and once i got to episode 8 i was hoocked, yet once Kamina dies and i get completly shocked by shuch events i thought i was going to see an even more amazing show than i could possibly imagine, and the truth is, after that, there is literally not ONE episode that i enjoy or feel like it works good for the shows itself. I DO feel like i get the show but once it ends i cant help but feel dissapointed, i dont feel like i saw Simon grow, i felt only that i saw a clone of Kamina show up that never quite became as good. Now heres the thing, i do believe this could have been more amazing if instead of Kamina dying the group would get split apart, this way Simon would have had to learn to handle himself while protecting Nina, and now Yoko and Kamina would have to learn how to handle things while searching for Simon while at the same time feeling like Simon could be dead and it could all be their fault. This way, not only would we see some growth from SImon but as well Kamina, who i was really hoping would have been the one leading the whole thing through with someone that would later be amazing as well like Simon, and even Yoko (im really sorry if im not explaining myself properly) so the thing is, how do i deal with this? how do i deal with a show that in order to show me a coming of age story gave me a character that by the end of the series didnt feel as rewarding like it indicates that it is suposed to be and that i feel like the story even though feels incredibly epic it doesnt feel AS epic because of this? p.s: yokos part on becoming a teacher felt incredibly obsurd in the way it was delivered or am i the only one that feels like this?

[@GigaDonk99]

Simone didn't really grow into a new version of Kamina, though. Kamina was a headstrong manly man who never ran away from a fight, even when his life depended on it, and it got him killed. Simone's relationship with Nia is what made him into a more well-rounded leader than Kamina. She taught him that while there is a place for assertiveness and manliness, it's still important to take a step back and think things through when the situation calls for it. Don't always charge in blindly, and don't always go with whatever crap your mentor fed you. Challenge other peoples' ideals, and assess whether they're worth anything on your own. Simone's not the same as Kamina by the end. He's better. Kamina never had anyone like Nia in his life. Simone took the best ideas that Kamina and Nia had and was molded by both of them. He's a smart dude that knows when to let things take their course, but he's also brave and never gives up the fight. I also see no issue with Yoko being a teacher. I don't fully understand what led her to doing that, but I found it charming and didn't really question it.

[@danbark4603]

see this right here what you just wrote is EXACTLY my problem, because i feel like i understand that, i really really do, BUT, by killing of Kamina and having Simon make so many of his gestures and yells as part of him kind of felt like ripping of someone elses cool sense, and i GET that it makes sense, BUT AGAIN it doesnt FEEL right, never through the series did it feel right, i wanted Simon to grow up by having Nia be his main motif for development and i also wanted to see Kamina develop into a better character, but once they kill Kamina there is no more place to develop him, only the people around him who were affect by him during the time he was alive, and i thought that was brilliant, BUUUT in the end we get a Simone that i honestly did not like to see, i mean yes he matured into a badass, yes he became the savior of the galaxy, but its a Simone that never left Kaminas shadow no matter how much better of a person he actually turned out to be, because of course he would turn out better than Kamina he stayed alive and the possibilities were endless, even Kamina had a lot to learn that he never got the chance to because he died, and that for me is what i feel like the problem is. It doesnt have to do with "oh are these characters good?" no no, it has to do with "what happens when a character that was really amazing dies and then is replaced by someone who has its mannerisms? will you find this character enjoyable to watch even if the story makes sense to its character?" i never found Simone interesting to watch ever since Kamina dies, I never found Yoko to be interesting after Kamina dies, i never found any other character to be interesting to watch after he died, and its not because the story doesnt make sense its because the story became unappealing to me once i figured out what they were gonna do with Simone and i was shit scared that it was gonna be really uninteresting and it turned out to be no matter how amazingly epic that series animation and OST is, without Kamina developing with the rest of the crew the show just felt empty I dont like the fact that Kamina becomes a symbol, i wanted Kamina the character to keep living and learning to become a better person because YES his logic was flawed and by the end of the series i realized i wanted to see that far more than whatever else i had seen (and we did see that but through SImon) because i believe not killing him would have given more characters place to grow by using other methods of story telling, heck they could have just have him out of the picture for a while or be serious injured and Simone would have to grow up as a leader because Kamina would be off for a while and then he could get a chance to see Simon grow into a possible badass and he himself would change thanks to that i just thought that would be so cool to see each other influencing one another through the series and possibly yoko having some of her character develop into an even more enjoyable person to watch to make it simple, imagine if in One Piece Luffy died and in order to finish the series youd have to have another member of the straw hat be the captain or simply have the crew split apart and later regroup to finish the journey luffy started, do we think that would be fun? who knows, but best guess is no, because one piece is written to be the story of how awesome this pirate group is and you'll get to see them be badasses through a long epic series and for such an epic looking show i was incredibly sad to find out they decided to not do that because im pretty sure i would have enjoyed a lot more the last scene if it was not only simone but also kamina and yoko beating the crap out of the anti spiral boss ( and yes i know the scene is somewhat like that but im pretty sure if kamina was alive youd see both of them standing there being all bro love to one another and bare fist fighting the guy, and im sure that would have been epic as fuck ) edit: also i forgot to say it, but i do appreciate your answer because ive been living in a gurren laggan dilema ever since i watched it and i really wanna love it but the Simone problem doesn't allow me to, again, i appreciate your input

[@sonicsucks20]

dan bark I completely agree, it's based on kaminas molding of the ideal human race from his own style is why anything happens to Simon and the dai brigade.

[@proffesserfuzzybunz3157]

For some reason satsuki and ryukos relationship reminds me of inuyasha and his brother (seshomaru? I think?)

[@valdapierre6650]

Oh yes Fr... I love this comment

[@swiggityswo9558]

Theres not as much war since this is reuploaded when kill la kill calmed down. But I still like both as it is now

[@globnob]

I like Gurren Lagann, but KLK's characters grabbed me more. The animation was more appealing to me, and the plot connected with me more. I do have bias, as KLK was the first anime I watched, but looking back, I really do feel that KLK has a more impactful plot, with more memorable characters.

[@mantic5423]

these are my 2 favorite anime of all time but I still can't figure out which one is better in my opinion

[@joe1233212]

What's the source for the video at 6:58? Dang youtube got rid of the link.

[@johnwilbur3050]

I prefer kill la kill but gurren Laggan is probably better

[@gabrielaugustus]

what?

[@BirdUpFR]

Exactly

[@lollmao3247]

Don't knock down kill la kill sweaty. Guerren Lagann isn't better.

[@platinummad4701]

@メンマ Menma Arts it's really not, Kill la Kill has a deeper meaning.

[@platinummad4701]

@メンマ Menma Arts kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5XIe2R8gMmch6c watch this lol

[@UrwanMichelangelo]

what the f.......why does a 2 year old video with 1/3 mil. views less than 200 comments?

[@TheBoneman15]

Bruh these are my two favorite shows ever. I cant say which one is better but they are both 10/10