Gw2: Vote Evon Gnashblade!!!!! ....Maybe

[@otakuribo]

Anyone else rewatching this in 2017 for a refresher on Abbadon lore before going back to the Crystal Desert in Path of Fire?

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Guys the full title is vote for Evon MAYBE. Watch the video and you will see my concerns for this fractal as much as my excitement :P

[@WoodenPotatoes]

It's a good point for sure. I didnt mention his sunken temple at all, and I should have.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

I'm just sharing stuff about the story. I was very focused the whole time.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Hey thanks! I can totally appreciate that people who don't know me or my channel will just think ''fuuuuuuuck that'' with a long video. But I put them out anyway :P

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Hey thanks! Completely revamped my armour too. I just need a fractal dagger to complete the look. Then a meteorlogicus is next on the list!

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Those are the names of the pistols. There is also another reference in Orr that she was named Lys and Issa.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

It's a small shard remaining from when the main pieces were shattered. The interesting thing is that the human you play with ascends and goes to meet the gods themselves at the end...

[@WoodenPotatoes]

I think they could. They stated a bazillion times before this that they were done with the abaddon story. I think it's very cool they are dropping that now to give us something very cool!

[@WoodenPotatoes]

It's a mix of all my favorite stuff! Or the most interesting pieces I could find, except shoes. (Which I think I'll get profane for). Acolytes headpiece, dredge shoulders, orrian chest, radiant gloves, inquest pants.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Those crystals were soul batteries, made by the mursaat that relied on the power of the bloodstone. At least that's what I think you're talking about. In Arah very tiny shards that were left behind where the gods broke it in five are present, and they are indeed red crystals. But not really the main stones themselves.

[@Shiina42]

I've barely started to watch this, but have to say glad to see you getting back into making things for GW2 WP. You just bring a spark of excitements and knowledge to it all I don't get anywhere else, and honestly it's fantastic to see as a fellow lore nerd.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

As I explained the bloodstones are HUGE. And there are only five of them. Those things you buy are just tiny fragments.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Yep I think you have a solid argument.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

What thing about palawa joko?

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Thats a compelling idea for sure! Except, as others have mentioned, it probably WAS grenth there since malchor had made the statues already.

[@Pekskeh]

I always wanted to know more about the Seers and the bloodstones and ofcourse about Abbadon, you explained it all! Thanks and keep the good work up!

[@WoodenPotatoes]

I agree completely, It's not much of a loose end. Just a cool moment. But that doesn't mean it's not worthwile. You have to ask yourself whether Fractals are there to tie up lose ends, or give us cool content. Everyone has a different answer to that.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

You are correct!

[@inkthedink]

Awesome video as always, I know these are longer for you to put together but it really is my favorite of the content you produce.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

I wasn't untill they announced the ''scavenger hunt'' was basically going to be time gated 400+ crafting.

[@draskang]

Another thing, the armor & sword hilt of Abaddon that is around the Mount of Torment, is actually scaled to fit the GW1 Abaddon. You can see the chunks floating over the portal.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Where are the peacekeepers in Gw2? Am I missing something massive?

[@ThePaddleBattle]

I love that you do these videos, I am so passionate about the Lore in Guild Wars, in part due to your coverage of it! I wish Anet could focus more on delivering story with the same personal involvement as the books and the same grandios scale of the lore that already exists! There's no reason why they couldn't totally achieve this!

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Well because I don't know what it is and it could only come out at christmas! Plus meteorlogicus is just a cool weapon for lore, imo.

[@schotsy]

Thanks for making such detailed and long videos! Loving the content mate

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Nah it's sort of different but I may make a video on it!

[@WoodenPotatoes]

There IS a dhuum temple! It's next to Lyssas.

[@NoobkinWolfy]

As much as I would like to vote for Ellen, I would actually vote for Gnashblade. Not only does his fractal sounds far more interesting than the other, but I can see Gnashblade doing things in future that may create some really interesting LS scenarios, like him voting on things that would turn him a bigger profit, or even taking over Lions Arch and making it a corporate driven nightmare.

[@AngelavengerL]

i love video's like this. i didn't play gw1 nor do i want to but i do love hearing about the background lore. i had no idea that the crystal desert was the crystal sea or tied to Abbadon in any way. Would definitely like to see one about the other candidates side as well.

[@neokoga]

We don't know that it is a blind vote per say...there could be more info about the paths each wants to take beyond the pre-patch notes mini list of things. This could be revealed to us as we are progressing through the 'campaign' so to speak. Also, they have stated if we chose Abaddon then we will get the lore on Therma via a blog post, video, possibly in a later book etc. and vice versa.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

It changes on context.

[@possum6381]

Regarding the length of the video and your comments at the end about people making it all the way through... I'll be honest, when I initially pulled it up and saw the time, I was almost put off by the length. But, as I became engrossed in the topic and the information you were giving, I lost track of the time. At the end, it didn't feel like it had been 45 minutes. Yes, it was long. But you provided a lot of good information and it was time well spent. Thanks.

[@Binidj]

I think that the Inquest may well be somehow tapping into magic before it was compartmentalised by the gods, thus creating a link between the two stories. There are ALL sorts of places they could go with this and, to me, that's more interesting than a story that we already largely know; sure it would be nice to see the details of the fall of Abaddon fleshed-out a bit, but essentially it's old news. Thaumanova offers some intriguing insights into the way in which the GW2 universe works.

[@CronckTV]

WP great lore vid, once again you have gotten me more interested in the GW lore then Anet has. Thanks for posting up the vid!

[@Brimstarr]

Really enjoyed this video Potatoes, I love lore and this was filled with tons of goodies I didn't know. Also, maybe we will be fighting against the 5 gods and fight along side of abaddon? I think that would be a great pull at the feelings for other gods.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

I just left another comment about it, but basically their information about the scavenger hunt news the other day is what made me bored of waiting.

[@kazmaka]

I was referring to that story mission when I said "steam creatures are alluded to be an Asuran invention from an alternate universe". The fact at least one steam creature is in TR and that they are originally from an alternate universe, implying TR is pulling creatures from alternate universes, is what is interesting.

[@PMArianef]

I'd like to add that in the thaumanova reactor, there seems to be a huge thing about the steam creatures (a whole achievement event on it with the steam ogre). WP mentions there is little lore on them, but that's not true. If you choose the infinity ball as your first invention in the asura storyline, you encounter your 'future you' who lobs mobs at you, these mobs are steam creatures. Steam creatures are from the future. I find that's pretty interesting.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

I do think I downed played the thaumanova a bit much! Could be very interesting.

[@Hall0ikama]

Just a question, does anyone know a place where I can find up to date builds for guild wars 2? because I havn't played guild wars for some months and I don't know if my old build is still viable.

[@possum6381]

I'll admit I don't watch everything you post. But I watch most of it, usually the GW2 stuff and ESPECIALLY the lore videos! I've been enjoying them since before the beta weekends started. In an odd sort of way, I miss the countdown videos and the excitement that was building as we got closer. I appreciate the info you share.

[@Dbenji29]

Brilliant video, congratz! Maybe you could have shown more pictures and places from Guild Wars. So that new players can have some visual experience on the lore.

[@hachnslay]

so, there are a few questions open for speculation. And what better place is there to discuss them than WP's video! Who is Mr. E - is it Evon ? Who is Scarlet? Why was Lady Kasmere in that bar? Will whoever we choose turn out to be evil - white mantle style?

[@XanderTheDweeb]

There's a giant statue in Abaddon's sunken temple in the Straits that shows how he looked, or how the people saw him, at least. I forgot that he was like a normal human until I saw it. x)

[@Rleiterh]

Good Video! Your videos are the reason im playing more and more GW2, i love pve and i didt play gw1 soo this is very very good to keep me in the game. (sry for my english im from South America)

[@francoisquesnay]

One of the cool things about WoW was the affection and nostalgia that it's community had for it. I could see Ellen Kiel filling the role of Thrall, as a two-dimensional but likeable character that becomes essential to the story. I could see myself, five years from now, fondly recalling how Ellen Kiel was once a quest giver in South Sun...those were the days. I can't see the leader of a ruthless corporations inspiring that all important affection/nostalgia.

[@josephwinn791]

Just as a heads up for WP: The latest GuildMag issue has an interview with the story peeps of ArenaNet where they reveal: "ArenaNet (Scott McGough) : That’s a technical hurdle we’re trying to overcome at the moment and we are working hard on it. I know I have a meeting later today to discuss that very issue, but yes we are working towards a better story tracking system for the living world" So they're working on a better tracking system, but it doesn't sound close to being in game yet.

[@sebastianrosenberger1473]

Hey WP can you post the link on the livestram about the devs talking about the upcoming update? Thx a lot ^^

[@DespadaPlaysGames]

Steam creatures are created by the the asura playercharacter from an alternate future where they have gone evil. They decide to return to the past with the steam creatures in order. It's actually part of the Infinity Ball Personal Storyline if I recall correctly.

[@nashramen]

WP: We do know that Grenth was the fifth god involved as his statue was created by Malchor along with Abbadon's and the other fours'. So Grenth had to be around before the fall of Abbadon and would therefore have been involved in it. Furthermore Dhuum was never given any recognizable temples that would could find in GW1 or GW2 so he probably was replaced a long time before the events of the Fall of Abbadon.

[@jumbodavejimbo]

Since the Fall of Abbadon is pretty much old lore and will entice most veteran players to vote for it I think it has a good chance of winning cause as you said, you can vote as many times as you want and I think anyone who played GW1 will be cool with farming the tokens just to see some cool lore

[@KalSpiro]

Fractals were a successful test of a way to present content. As such the only appropriate answer is a way to give us cool content, whatever that content may be. Exactly what loose ends have been tied up so far in any of the current fractals? Each is just a unique and potentially interesting instance without regard to time, space, or content.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

No airships for sure! Regular ships.

[@regendo]

Menzies is Balthazar's half-brother and apparently wages war against him in the Fissure of Woe. He also has some sort of connection with Abaddon, since his shadow army, which usually is only in the Fissure of Woe, appeared in an area corrupted by Abaddon. However, I think that is all we know about him.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Podcasts with myself. I don't know whether thats awesome or sad? xD

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Except that half of it was positive and half was negative?

[@SykoLiu]

Methinks my vote goes to Kiel. Based on the fact that I want to know more about the Thaumanova Reactor. I like the idea that we might get the rebel factions (e.g., Flame Legion, Inquest) fleshed out a little more. There's a lot that could be added to these factions' backstory that could help flesh out the world.

[@Kanthir]

When the reactor blew, the world's fabric turned inside out. Some things will never be the same... Stuck in my head ever since I heard it the first time. I'd really like to know more about it. And it seems like we already kinda know a lot about Abaddon.

[@xander41]

The amount of lore within the Guild Wars universe is incredible. Arenanet definitely needs to pick you up!

[@BalancedMasterEl]

Interesting points, I want Kiel to win simply because I think we won't see anything new with the Fall of Abbadon. And your videos never fall off. I love listening to your voice, its so relaxing!

[@06kellyjac]

Its the radiant gloves from the achievement chest and I assume its a Hylek potion that is making him yellow which then makes the gloves glow bright yellow

[@PMArianef]

About the bloodstones, I've always wondered whether it's actually bloodstones we put together in arah path 4...

[@Xantos3412]

First time I've seen your legendary. Congratz!

[@WoodenPotatoes]

I think using the avatars would be a cop out. It's a serious battle, not something they can do by proxy.

[@sebastianlovenhjelm]

what bright yellow gloves is he using? or is that a particle effect?

[@Altaranalt]

Someone mentioned the Abaddon, might be underwater.... oh man now I don't know what to pick! This was a really fun video btw, makes me wanna play GW1 again.

[@Neekadeek]

Why are his radiant gloves glowing yellow at the beginning????

[@BlackShardStudio]

I *LOVE* the idea of community choice affecting the world. I've been arguing for it since before launch as an extension of the event system. I would love to see it eventually go that direction and fill in the gap between the repetitive but largely player-driven event system, and the highly scripted dev-driven living story. Having a stake in the world will drive player passion and involvement.

[@Manyminutemat]

I may be wrong, but no one seems to have mentioned the coincidence that these two fractal options are about the Inquest and pirates, the two factions that WP noted might be involved in the Glint and the Zephyrites story line. Perhaps the Inquest pulled some Margonites through time in the reactor, where they broke time. Perhaps the Sky Pirates are actually the decedents of the Margonites who had to take to the sky because the Crystal Sea dried up, and now they want to take back their home land.

[@Rautia]

I thought the steam creatures were supposedly created by the future version of the Asuran playable character in one of their living story paths (Infinity Ball)?

[@neokoga]

He's also stated the theory on the relationship between the gods departure and the awakening of the dragons which is just as, if not more, relevant to the events of gw2.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Yeah so? And now this fractal has possibly become another dungeon on top of their regular one they do.

[@MrGunman84]

dowt u go to the 6 gods temple in your story in orr were u ferst see the eye and moth of zhaitan

[@neokoga]

Also, Steam creatures ARE explained... in the personal story. They tell you exactly where they come from, why they were created and what their purpose was. Asura . Infinity Ball . Synergetics. That will give you your answers.

[@BusyWaiting]

Aren't the steam creatures explained in one of the Asura personal story paths?

[@WoodenPotatoes]

I have 100% completion I just lost it when they added the new waypoints and didn't bother picking some up.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Hey I could have been wearing CoF armour too? :P

[@DarthAndrew520]

did you just make that thing up about palawa joko?? also when did you get your legendary?

[@TyranosExHelvetia]

I agree. I'm also a GW1 veteran and was going to vote for Gnashblade before I realised that we already know how Abbadon fell. It would be interesting how things looked back then but Thaumanova seems much more interesting right know because we don't know anything about it. And it is dirrectly connected with the ED rising!

[@assassin0125]

What if with the thaumonova reactor makes waypoints free? 0.0

[@regendo]

I guess I simply didn't remember them being emissaries of Dhuum specifically. I do remember the mission with the emissaries.

[@akeron1an]

There was a mission with the priory where you "fought as" Balthazar in order to defend Lions Arch from the undead, maybe that hints that we will be playing as the different gods with special skills corresponding to that god.

[@tousdreb]

I'm gonna b e voting for Kiel, not for the cheaper way-points but I feel the reactor is tied much more with the Guild Wars 2 future and I feel it will reveal a lot more about the asuras and where they may have originated from and also i'm intrigued by what the inquest represent. Either way I think both sides of the vote will be awesome.

[@MrX5570]

Aren't the steam monsters explained in the Asuran personal story if you choose the Infinity Ball?

[@whyisthisathingnow...]

I never noticed this before but gratz on your incinerator! :P Join the firey dagger club. Looking forward to when they allow us to change stat combos out of combat for legendaries.

[@joshinana]

The story with abbadon is that his body was destroyed when he was struck down, thats possibly why we only fight his head/ bound hands

[@R0r7va5tor]

Congrats on Incinerator I'm only a little jealous, but I am definitely going for Evon. The Fall of Abaddon is just too good to pass up. I love the lore of the gods so that just has me entirely captured.

[@BlackShardStudio]

I'm curious about the reactor, mostly because a secret research group tampering with spacetime/reality, a reactor explosion, and the oddly specific appearance of polar bears there strikes me as a veiled LOST reference.

[@jakwaw3]

nobody said that we'll get into role of 5 gods defeating abaddon - even woody was speculating about this. what i was trying to say; fall of abaddon fractal is a big chunk of lore for guildwars universe, gods are somehow connected with the dragons and both fractals give us chance to dig into that more. Looking at fall of abaddon with gods or trying to understand their aspects with inquest blown reactor. Though both sides of coin are interesting, we don't really know what to expect from Thaumanova

[@TheActualVimple]

Have you heard about wildstar? if so, are you going to make any content of it once the game releases?

[@ThisAlbino]

Exactly, they have dungeons coming out the wazoo. They would be able to fit Thaumanova in there somewhere, if not for this.

[@austinl8074]

I'm torn because I want to find out more about the fall, but since fractals are such small things, I don't know that we would get to see or learn anything amazing. I also think I would prefer to vote for Kiel just because I kind of like the possibilities of where the story can go with her in the council. I know Gnashblade can become interesting, but I don't want to wait another 2 months to get to know him. Kiel at least has been present, so we can move on to other stories sooner.

[@draconious2013]

You should go into how the fractal from ellen will include primordus and the asurans. Maybe it will tie into that one floating asura city fractal that what's her face won't talk about.

[@gw2rockz]

Gz for finally getting the Incinerator! How'd you get your precursor?

[@MegaFearfox]

hey if I start play in the next 3-4 months because im getting a gaming laptop in that time and getting gw2 when I get it will it be boring and not fun in that time

[@Iszcky]

why not wait for the new legendary scepter?

[@Mystrasun]

About the God's never really being seen... what about the Dervish Avatar Elite skills?

[@Direksone]

Molten Facility and Aetherblade Retreat will come back as fractals by the way.

[@Bobilliann]

I feel like Anet know how cool Abaddon is and how many players want to see more of that stuff, and therefore there must be something really cool going on with Thaumanova in order for it to even be a contest between the two. Or maybe this is a convoluted way of asking us if we're still interested in the old lore or want to hear new things about the new areas in GW2. So torn!