Gwen's Big Speech to Her Dad | Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse (Hailee Steinfeld, Shea Whigham)

[@jackhanver1420]

I think Gwen's father quiting was the final proof that Gwen needed to understand that Canon Events aren't what they seem.

[@themasterofcommentsandrese4351]

Miguel was wrong.

[@charliefarmer4365]

If you ask me so-called canon events are just stuff that happens to reoccur often. OR Miguel has only seen those realities because the multiverse is infinite, therefore could he have really seen them all?

[@Adwaith-_A.]

I think the universes destroy because of spot 😯

[@licktin1091]

@@themasterofcommentsandrese4351I honestly hope so

[@micheld7994]

@@themasterofcommentsandrese4351 not actually, a cop captain would die eventually, just not his dad. Captain Stacy was never Peter's dad.

[@blackbankai0354]

“The guy who left it was a real piece of work.” Why do I get the feeling Hobie really chewed him out before he gave the watch.

[@Demaad]

Because Captain Stacy is a by the book cop and Hobbie is a rebel with Zero respect for authority. Plus for what Gwen was put through because of her dad, Hobbie wouldn’t let that slide

[@TruthSeeker23099]

“Hobbie wouldn’t let that slide” sure hope not

[@maxm2656]

Idk I think y’all are over thinking this shit lmao. I think it’s just the art style. It could be Punk’s personality too, but I honestly think it’s just him being all England Punk Rock art/vibe

[@theilluminatibenefactor]

@@TruthSeeker23099 knowing Hobbie, he didn't.

[@jamesmacleod867]

​@@maxm2656... no? piece of work just means irritating, a lot to deal with...that's the literal meaning of the word. he doesn't mean piece of work like art lol

[@timber007]

I really wanna know what was the conversation between Hobie and Gwen's dad. Just imagine the dad, who was totally depressed, hadn't seen his daughter in half a year, and then this magazine cutout guy pops out of nowhere and starts to talk with him about Gwen. He probably freaked the hell out.

[@Montesama314]

Poor George Stacy, confused how this guy knows his daughter, wondering where she is, wondering what the hell kind of English he's speaking, somehow also being offended because he's PRETTY sure the guy called him a fascist but he talks so damn fast...

[@mysterykiddo2167]

I think it'd defiantly be something he wouldn't forgetsomethig

[@gayexterminator3000]

@@Montesama314LOLL😂

[@hauntedshadowslegacy2826]

@@Montesama314 'pretty sure the guy called him a fascist' omg help

[@paladin400]

I don’t know. Gwen’s dad doesn’t live in our world. Spider-Man and meta humans are part of his everyday life, part of his universe. I don’t think he’d be that shocked. Confused at most I’d say

[@heatwave1789]

When it finally hits her dad. He almost killed the greatest thing in this world, and after that, he knew he couldn't be captain anymore.

[@joshuajones6460]

The greatest thing in HIS world as well

[@connormong4936]

This is just masterful writing. Gwen has a very natural, very spiderman conflict with her Dad to start off with. And it's left on such a gut wrenching spot, where we think her Dad has chosen his duty over his daughter. And by the time we're back here, we don't expect Gwen to even encounter her Dad. It's a suprise, but we're ready for Gwen to reconcile. Not only does this manage to be the emotional high of the movie, it also connects with the overaching story regarding canon and establishes it can change. Studios undervalue writers, this scene genuinely moves me and is the essence of what I love about movies.

[@Cometzone12]

Gwen and her Dad at first are the complete opposite of Miles and Uncle Aaron. Uncle Aaron didn't even *hesitate* to stop everything he was doing as the Prowler to protect Miles in that critical moment to accept the consequences, while Gwen's Dad made a big mistake by almost killing/arresting her.

[@hikari9433]

@@Cometzone12 That's because uncle Aaron's moral code was flexible and also he wasn't being a villain because he wanted to. Captain Stacy on the other hand strongly believe in the law and what he's doing. It's part of who he is and his moral code is inflexible (just rewatch the dinner scene in The Amazing Spider-Man with Andrew Garfield). That's why he was so conflicted and why he quit because he knew he couldn't keep being a cop and at the same time allowing her daughter to do what she does.

[@vedji1857]

@@connormong4936It’s so great how Gwen relied on Miguel to escape the harsh system her father lead, only for his system to be even worse and restrictive.

[@acemstudio]

My GOD that shot of Gwen's reflection being HER even though she has the mask on....GOD these movies are just ART.

[@somenerdyblonde]

+😊

[@sentry_down]

Earlier in the movie, there's the opposite shot where she's inside and sees herself with the mask in the window. This is such a smart detail to showcase how she's two different person inside & outside of her home

[@ironpulse3658]

Cap. Stacy is right on one thing parenting is a big ass mystery

[@Chad-bc9vi]

That's true, it's still a mystery to me how my parents raised my dumbass 😂

[@mikechansw748]

@@Chad-bc9vi😂😂

[@Takaichi666-]

As a father myself I’m still figuring it out

[@mr.boomguy]

That was also what MJ said, "there's no playbook on raising a kid like her"

[@okuyasuniijimura]

I read your comment wrong like four times. i thought this was two separate sentences

[@ajtheva6694]

Hobbie gave her dad that watch, knowing full well that these two will talk to each other and make up. Hobbie is too damn smart.

[@baronfonparo3876]

Nah, there are been rumors that he is the main antagonist of the series and will gonna do a lot , a lot of things in triquel

[@spooku5495]

​@baronfonparo3876 what motive does Hobbie have that would make him an antagonist?

[@baronfonparo3876]

@@spooku5495 He gave that thing to gwen, in fact pulling the strings. From his backgrounds we see that he is a revolutionary

[@lucky4d725]

​@@baronfonparo3876that doesn't make him an antagonist.

[@ginocanterino258]

​@@lucky4d725it depends on what the final results are going to be. Sometimes you end up being an antagonist by trying to do the good thing but causing too many casualties because of the way you wanted to achieve said good thing. Eren from attack on titan is an example of it. A man who wanted freedom, for itself and its friends but the way the guy used to achieve said freedom turned eren into an antagonist more than a hero.

[@YezDerpyCat]

fun fact at 1:00 you can see gwen's dad holding a gun in the windows reflection which means that gwen's spider sense thought he was still so dangerous after all this time.

[@bryguy1502]

He was holding the little penguin plush because he knew if he used his hand to flip the switch Gwen would web that.

[@silentsmile5098]

It’s his fingers on the other hand that make it look like a gun not an actual gun

[@Morfe02]

​@@bryguy1502 lmao clever he got tired of webs i didnt notice i thought he just use the Penguin as a metaphor of a "gun"

[@3L3M3NT4Lcolours]

Why does every frame in this scene look like it is a beautiful painting? Man THIS is the movie with the greatest animation team ever. Even way greater than Mappa’s. 2026. I’m rooting for your next sequel.

[@curtishiu]

ever heard about kyoto animation? the one is much better than mappa

[@GoThroughTheLookingGlass]

That's because there's no Motion Blur in this movie!

[@Divika-uq9hx]

this is on another level, and it shouldn't be compared with a normal anime studio because the amount of resources and budget this movie had is more comparable to a Hollywood film than any normal anime series

[@blueberry-jrpfx779]

Gwen’s story in this film absolutely wrecked me and I can’t wait to see how Miles fairs in his section of the universe

[@itzzzsss]

When you show your parent what skills and responsibilities you have, and they fully accept that

[@dylanpullock6972]

" you wanna go easy on the penguin" for me still has to be one of the greatest lines and the best proof that whoever wrote this actually cares about the source material because of the deeper meaning it has to those who know what it means. Its a beautiful, subtle allusion from a father to his daughter that she is treating herself too harshly.

[@TheLittleDudeMarcoPolo]

“Your a good cop dad. You know you put on that badge because you know if you don’t, someone who shouldn’t will.” That’s such and unrated line.

[@ApexGale]

it's basically the equivalent of the with great power line. "if you don't take on all the power that comes with being a police captain, someone irresponsible will."

[@BobaBoi2000]

1:05 small out of reach detail but the penguin plush Gwen webs to the wall is probably a reference to Spider-Guin, an alternate universe where Marvel super heroes are animals and Spider-Gwen is a Penguin. So in a way Gwen's Dad could be saying: "go easy on yourself?"

[@terriblej6107]

It’s sad that Gwen felt she needed to distance herself from her father when she found out he would die when he became captain, and yet amazing when she found out he chose not to be captain and wouldn’t die. That is some great writing about the pain of knowing your own “fate”

[@Peacemaker2024-A9T]

Gwen is the future. When i look at her, i see hope, and it's beautiful.

[@AD-oy8nm]

do you think miles and gwen end up together? i'm worried gwen dies saving miles' dad in the next movie.

[@kjd-s5b]

@@AD-oy8nm Nah. She's got her own spinoff after BTSV. Plus, it'd betray the whole message of breaking the canon.

[@Abner-gu3ve]

@@AD-oy8nmyeah I believe so

[@cursedcanine8414]

​@@AD-oy8nmyea plus her univers so far is called earth-65 like the one in the comics so ill say earth-65-B she has to go ti collage and get stuck in earth-616 first

[@AviationAirplaneTV]

@@AD-oy8nmshe won’t die

[@GwenStacy748]

Gwen has been through a lot of pain I could relate, because she lost a lot, including her best friend miles, this scene is so beautiful that it makes me cry every single day that I watch it. This is the most touching scene from Spider-Man across the spider verse and it does hit me at the heart strings. ❤

[@Carlton17277]

The pain by being away from her father and not being able to return home is heart breaking. But I think the worst pain is not being honest and suppressing her true feelings for miles based off Gwen Stacy and Spider-Man canon event. But at the end of the day. I’m glad that Gwen and her father reconciled. Because it proves that miles is right, that u can do both and that miles taught Gwen that it’s all possible that they can have a relationship.

[@kyleb7974]

@@Carlton17277I think her father was more detrimental because the reasons she suppressed those feelings was because she has always been hiding things from her father her entire life. She basically lost her entire motivation to become Spider-Woman. As she says in this scene that she always tried to wear it the way George would want. And here when she was trapped in this universe, she just gives up and goes to hand herself; probably her most vulnerable point in the series so far.

[@Carlton17277]

@@kyleb7974 I think we can look at in both ways like u said about her father being detrimental and Gwen hiding things from him because of her identity which she had to suppress her feelings of telling the truth and wanting to tell him the things she wanted to say after 4 years. And for Miles is her suppressing the possibility of a romantic relationship because of the canon event. Though she does want that relationship, she needs to limit herself from having it to protect herself and miles. Glad at the end that Gwen sees it’s all possible because of miles and that u can do both. With her dad quitting captain and choosing his daughter at the end.

[@kyleb7974]

@@Carlton17277 Yeah I feel had she made up with her dad earlier, she would have the confidence to open up to Miles and defy fate

[@joeytaylor1021]

2:15, her dad's sigh there is obviously when he decided to quit. I know it's not exactly halfway through the speech like he said, but keep in mind, this happened when she said "I can do all these things but I can't help the people I love the most". George being a cop while his daughter is the Spider Woman is the same thing here. He can do many things as a cop, but would be unable to help his daughter be Spider Woman AND be a cop

[@lucky6961]

you can also see how the paint starts flowing on their scenes as both become more emotional, that scene was chef's kiss

[@kidprime6863]

That's it. He couldn't balance being a cop and a father.

[@librawade8867]

Gotta admit, they really broke the mold with this one. Not just your standard "Stop the villain/baddie from succeeding" plot they could have thrown at us.

[@CrasherX2000]

It’s a somewhat small detail but I love how the background color reflects the emotional tension between the two and how it turns white once they hug Edit: ok it’s not small as it’s very noticeable, but I still love the amount of detail in this scene

[@timber007]

bro, I wouldn't say that it's a small detail. It's one of the main tools of storytelling in this movie!

[@jamesmacleod867]

Its not a small detail it's the whole concept of Gwen's world, the colours change with the emotions

[@AlanSosa-de7xc]

i actually think is not even a metaphorical detail, that's just part of her universe; people's thoughts and feelings have an optical effect on the environment around them.

[@mysterykiddo2167]

@@jamesmacleod867 I really like how they did that

[@Vesperitis]

It’s not just the background that changes, but Gwen and her dad’s love is only fully realized when they’re in their ‘real’ colors.

[@themasterofcommentsandrese4351]

2:51 whoa. Plot twist. Miguel o hara was wrong about the canon events.

[@StripesChaosGremlin]

Is that meant to he sarcasm? Because right from the word go, his logic about canon events felt way off to me.

[@lord_ozymandias]

@@StripesChaosGremlini honestly believed him up until this point, but i thought that universes that violated canon events could be saved in easier methods than what was being described. knowing that canon events aren’t even set in stone, i think that makes more sense over all, but i was with miguel for a bit lol

[@badgercdlyons]

Read the Spider universe comic arc this is all based off of. Miguel has thought he knew the real truth behind things but never had a clue to start with. Also makes the Madame Web character so much more important.

[@timeshipproductions907]

That doesn’t mean some other captain will come along Gwen will fail to save. Also the movie doesn’t HAVE to have the logic of comics, it can just use it for inspiration. (I haven’t read the comics don’t come at me I’m just going off the logic of the film)

[@StripesChaosGremlin]

But it does mean that Miguel's logic on cannon events is flawed. Remember that Gwen herself believed both her and Miles dads were doomed to die for the sake of Miguel's little theory. No outcome is going to prove Miguel right execpt for Gwen's world collapsing. If a different captain dies, then that means that Miles dad can also be saved if her dad still somehow dies due to just trying to help, then that could mean it doesn't have to he a police captain thst dies. And there are a bunch of other permutations that could be considered. Miguel seems convinced that Miles is the somehow the focal point for worlds collapse because the spider that bit him wasn't from his dimension. Miles had nothing to do with the spider appearing in his world. He just got bitten. He blames Miles for both the death of his Peter's death, which again spider powers or not, he was again just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Peter would have tried to save him regardless and would probably have ended up with them both dead. Miguel's is ignoring the massive spotted elephant in the room because it doesn't fit his theory, and I would argue his first experience with breaking cannon is also flawed.

[@Skyfish93]

The fact that Gwen's father didn't become the 'Captain Stacey' of her universe means the Canon Event won't happen, but her world also won't collapse. And all because he saw his daughter was Spider-Woman, and decided not to not only lose himself but his daughter as well. Imagine that, then. Gwen won't have to lose her father like she did Peter meaning that every Spiderverse Spider-Man can have different canon events, let alone change them! Sure the others like Peni (because her canon event happened the second she got back to her universe) wasn't able to stop it, but that just means that O'Hara is just manipulating their lives. Beyond the Spiderverse is gonna be insane.

[@westrim]

The whole canon event concept is wrong. Miguel is wrong.

[@Palpad100]

@@westrim Or maybe it will be Miles's father who will be Gwen's cannon event.

[@em.loves.dr.pepper]

@@Palpad100 That makes absolutely zero sense

[@namishjain9238]

@@Palpad100 a police captain 'close' to the spider-person why is miles' dad close to her 😭

[@Palpad100]

@@namishjain9238 Depends on what happens in the next movie.

[@bobwratchet3757]

This is my favorite moment in the movie. The way the whole ‘set’ turns white to reflect her emotions, gets me every time

[@ByrneBaby]

I don't see anyone talking about just how happy Peter B. Parker is. Meeting Miles really lit a fire in him and he turned his entire life around and now he's like the sweetest, kindest dad in the multiverse and I can't get enough of him and how he interacts with others.

[@badgercdlyons]

If I know Marvel at all her saying, "I'll be right back. Promise." is such a death flag.

[@kjj26k]

Ain't no way she dies, but, they may scare us with a very close call.

[@Cometzone12]

If Gwen OR Miles dies in the 3rd movie I'mma die how about that

[@hellnoodlerat4937]

​@@Cometzone12 I will be emotionally ruined

[@UpcycleShoesKai]

Yup....or shes lost in the mutiverse

[@indiesunflowers]

there's no way she's gonna die. gwen as spiderwoman isn't supposed to die, hence her nickname ghost spider. also spiderverse is more lighthearted than just any marvel movie. I think there's gonna be a happy ending

[@chrisgiles6050]

This scene right here is one of my second favorites in the movie and among my third favorite scenes in the Spider-Verse franchise thus far. As much as I got love for my man Miles, I also love how very complex and so raw Gwen is and the emotional journey she's going through. Any of us can relate

[@Nokard]

Which are your firsts?

[@lightningwolf1119]

I understand how much gwen cares about her dad and how much she loves him

[@Aware-qk5cx]

I love how gwens universe looks straight up like a water color painting. You can really feel there emotions because its all around them.

[@Abner-gu3ve]

I love this moments for many reasons, Gwen finally being able to speak her mind after bottling her emotions up for so long, Gwen learning that canon events can be prevented and reconciling with her dad were all icing on the cake for me

[@ladylizlaz9032]

I love how at the start the colours of the background and characters constantly change, as if they still can’t understand. Once Gwen’s dad reveals he quit as police captain, the colours change to what we usually see, except for the background which becomes white. Feels like nothing else in the room matters!

[@Daginni1]

Every dimension had its own comic art style and I totally loved it. They even had the live action versions of Spiderman and it made absolute sense.

[@Montesama314]

I loved the scenes in her universe. I would have watched a whole movie about her story if Sony wanted to make it.

[@hauntedshadowslegacy2826]

The watercolor nature of Gwen's universe helped convey that. The colors and patterns all throughout the scene help to establish the tone, the emotions, and the motives portrayed. As Gwen and her dad talk, the colors behind them start off way different. Toward the end, the colors and patterns start to match.

[@armaggon5920]

I think it was a bit much. It was creative and colorful, but a bit much

[@hom7640]

this is the one scene that made me break down in (silent as possible) tears in the theatre

[@Cometzone12]

Gwen's Universe is artistically painted beautifully, they really captured the "mood ring" feel.

[@mimilook4347]

I'm so glad that the writers didn't blame Gwen for running away from him and didn't make her look like she was overreacting because that's usually how parent vs child conflicts are written. A parent is abusive and a child is blamed for hating them. But he had to apologize. I hate him for what he did to her. I can't believe that so many people blame her for so much stuff in this movie when she was just used by three adults - Miguel, George and Jessica. Not a single one of those adults she depended on asked how she's feeling or what she wants. Edit: ok I get it y'all hate Gwen but you love cops, no need to remind me of it

[@zaddyfaye6880]

i just cant believe she catches all the flack meanwhile peter's normally given a free pass by the audience. gwen was under duress the majority of the film from adults she looked up to (jessica and miguel-specifically pushing that she couldnt go see or reveal the truth to miles), had every reason to believe that revealing the truth or going to see miles wouldve done nothing but hurt miles AND if she broke any of those oaths then she wouldve been forced back to her home dimension, where her father and her were on the outs (because he straight-up almost killed her) - which would have resulted in her having to bear witness to her father's death. in spite of all this, she still goes out of her way to protect miles and (in the finale) clearly is willing to put it all on the line to protect him. peter, meanwhile, whilst probably being pressured-similarly to gwen had a lot less on his plate and was actually in a very stable place in his life (for once), compounded by the fact that he's clearly a lot less intimidated by miguel than gwen is. gwen's on high-alert all throughout her interactions w miguel and is obviously-wary of him, meanwhile peter treats him like a joke most of the time and seems far more relaxed by comparison. not to shit on peter - i love peter - i just cannot fathom why gwen's the one catching the most heat for it. actually, it's obvious why she catches the most flack, but if anyone were to state the obvious reason theyd be immediately torn to shreds

[@mimilook4347]

@@zaddyfaye6880 And most people say that she should've helped Miles which would get her arrested by her father when Miguel kicks her out. She is a child who would be thrown in jail for first degree murder, she would be 30-40 when she gets out and everyone in her dimension would know she is Spider-Woman and think she's a murderer. Her whole life ruined. And what sucks is that she turned against Miles to avoid this and Miguel and Jessica kicked her out anyway. And the internet is acting like Gwen is the villain of the movie. These two were the worst.

[@EdwardHarley]

I don't quite see it as that black and white. He wasn't abusive, he was a cop doing his job as he saw it. She wasn't wrong, morally, she was using her abilities to help people the best way she could. Nuance is tough to see, especially in the heat of the moment, when the one that has technically been subverting the law turns out to be your daughter. He didn't know what to do, so he went to the "book" and his training. I wouldn't say it was the right call, but I can't say it was wrong either.

[@mimilook4347]

@@EdwardHarley I didn't say that he was abusive but not believing your own child and thinking that she would kill her own best friend and pointing a gun at her is insane.

[@ta.shaurma.0o0]

​@@mimilook4347 totally agree

[@phongngothai6143]

4:30 truer word had never been spoken before

[@rossohare4950]

I hope you've learned your lesson, Captain.

[@Scruffi]

Man, the art direction of this movie makes my head spin in a good way. Just incredible.

[@lightfractals]

pointing a gun at your own daughter with your finger on the trigger is crazy.

[@professorkyuu1775]

It's like she said. He does his duty as a cop, carrying that gun and wearing that badge because otherwise someone who shouldn't will.

[@sunstone_xd8977]

​@@professorkyuu1775didn't he already say he shouldn't? I mean if you're willing to put your "duty" over not pointing a f*cking gun at your child then you shouldn't have that job

[@TruthSeeker23099]

@@sunstone_xd8977and not even willing…to hear her side smh

[@jamesmacleod867]

It was an incredibly stressful situation. He probably couldn't think straight. He clearly regrets it in this scene, honestly he looked like he did. He realised he'd lose his daughter if he didn't accept who she really was

[@Everydayartist12]

​@@sunstone_xd8977 nope duty first. There have been real life moments when cops have had to arrest their own kids for breaking the law. No one is an exception. Captain Stacy did what he was supposed to even tho it was eating him up .Gwen is a vigilante and as much as I live spider man and all other heroes thats what they are at the end of the day if they kill someone it's murder. Cause they don't have a badge. They weren't ordained by anyone or given authority to do what they do

[@jimstoesz3878]

This scene handily proves just how bogus the entire "live action > animation" argument is. It would impossible to convey the emotions that the changing colours and line work of this scene convey in a medium that prioritizes "realism" over all else.

[@alexandergreene461]

What the hell are you saying? They could replicate this framing and coloration with a single rgb flood light, if you really need to have glitchy crap behind her for some reason then paintbrush it in. Nothing done in this scene couldn’t be done in live action. I’m not saying either is better necessarily but this scene is nothing groundbreaking.

[@alexf225]

​@@alexandergreene461Life action usually looks worse and has more limitations.

[@corbanbausch9049]

⁠@@alexandergreene461 do you really think it would look the same, or anywhere near as good? It would look stupid. Can you replicate the styling of paint strokes in live action too? Or the detail of a background that consistently changes detail level based on the mental state of the character? Animation is just straight up better at this sort of thing. Live action could certainly make a scene with this exact script look great, but it wouldn’t be the same. Its benefits lie in other areas, in minute facial expressions and stylish cinematography. But animation rocks expressionism in film, especially when it’s this well done.

[@hasankabir1299]

​@@alexandergreene461 can you give 1 example where they use something like the things you said you can do to replicate the color changing background? Just say the movie name and what scene and I will watch it

[@ColdFuse96]

Disney said the whole art style of Wish was supposed to be simulated watercolor to pay homage to the original Disney films, but THIS is how you do watercolor in film!!!!! 2:14 This frame alone could be a painting in it of itself!!!!!

[@BallisticWolfey]

the use of color in gwens universe is my favorite part about this movie.

[@fireglass_2039]

The thing is, they broke canon without bad consequences yes. But captain Stacy knew about Gwen only because of Vulture and he was an anomaly ! So I think canon events can’t be broken without outside influences intended or otherwise

[@idkkate354raf]

chewed him out before he it does hit me at the heart strings. is a big ass mystery and it's beautiful.

[@S0meb0dy728]

Are you high?

[@ALASTOR101.]

Technically the best thing he's ever done is her mom. Now, the best thing he's ever made is Gwen

[@madduxnagel6935]

I didn’t wanna say it but I’m glad someone else did😂

[@joaquindamian5542]

if her father say he quit being captain, does that mean it breaks the Canon

[@aaronmeadows8316]

😮

[@Demaad]

How does it break the canon? Another police captain will just take his place

[@frankie71510]

Here’s how I picture it, George quitting the police force partially changes events in Gwen’s dimension. However nothing crazy will happen at all, someone else will get sworn in to become captain. The important thing is the fact that he doesn’t have to die, some stranger on the police force will (whoever becomes captain) George gets to live, Gwen still has her father and one main plot point of Beyond The Spider-Verse could be getting Miles’ dad to quit the police force in his dimension.

[@editsxxq1]

@@Demaad Yes but Gwen isn’t related to another captain so it does break the canon.

[@twomz]

I think of it as there is 'interfering' with the canon (what Miles does earlier in the movie) that causes breaks in reality and there's 'changing' the canon, where the participants of that particular dimension make choices that lead to a different story. Capt. Stacy quitting instead of dying changes the story, but doesn't cause any breaks in reality. That also means that if Miles beats Spot, it changes the canon instead of breaking it. Miguel screwed up by traveling to a different dimension and interfering with it's story, the same thing he's now blaming Miles for trying to do.

[@alunjones6823]

Hailee Steinfeld's performance as Gwen in Into the Spider-Verse and this movie is just phenomenal.

[@arthurwright4970]

Spider, Gwen is beautiful and motivating

[@DelosWX]

I really love the change as soon as she realizes her dad won't be captain, for most of the movie you had the overarching plot with her dad hunting Gwen after Peter's death and finding out his daughter was the Spiderwoman, but also she has to wall herself off from feeling anything because presumably when she joined the Spider Society she found out her dad would die. And of course walling herself off and cutting off any emotion towards her dad is easier than facing her emotions over the fact that her dad is going to die when he becomes captain as we see in the beginning of the video where she's very cold but also that emotion creeps in that she should at least let her dad know what she thinks of him in case this is the last time they see each other. She's not just running from the Peter conflict with her dad, she's running from the inevitability of his death and once it hits her he won't die because he won't be captain, that defensive wall gets torn down and one of the first thing she does is hug him. You can even see this in the moments following where the entire world brightens up like it's emulating Gwen's emotion, her world lighting up realizing he won't die.

[@CarcoDev]

if you look closely at 1:00 at Gwen’s dad in the reflection it looks like her dad is holding a gun rather than the penguin. probably Gwen expecting her dad to try to arrest her again

[@GeneralxGrievousx]

Across the Spider-verse is animation at its finest. That everything about it; writing, dialogue, storytelling etc is so great that you forget at times that you're watching an animated movie at all. Thats true cinema at work.

[@Formula577]

Every parent: "You think I'll be any good at this?" Children: "Your asking that now?"

[@titan_redeemer7371]

Gwen’s dimension looks like such a headache to live with.

[@S0meb0dy728]

Hobie's:

[@herryx82]

"you the best thing i ever done!" miss u dad😢

[@kardulla]

I love the bleeding colors of this scene. It really conveys the emotions of the characters mental state.

[@AuroSya]

As someone who never felt accepted or close to their father (for things outside their control) the whole conversation and relationship with Gwen and her dad hit me to my core.

[@rebekadoczi2136]

I really think that instead of the canon events, it's the fact that the different universe spidermans all traveling around the dimensions is what's really causing the disturbances.

[@RayMcElroy50]

I would love to see Daniella Pineda as a live-action Spider-Gwen

[@awesomegirl5190]

I'm planning on directing a Spider-Gwen movie

[@RayMcElroy50]

@@awesomegirl5190 ok

[@JWheel5]

Dove Cameron voiced Gwen. Maybe she can portray a live Gwen.

[@cornbitz4401]

​@@JWheel5 is hailee steinfeld joke on you?

[@isaabushi9770]

Thank you Hobie 3:50

[@myellegreen7717]

“I always taught you to do it by the book.” Buddy, there is no real rule book for the job she's in..😂

[@hikari9433]

That was the point, being a vigilante is technically illegal. His dad meant he would've preferred her to help people in a legal way without hiding her identity to everyone around.

[@therivster]

But there are times when doing it by the book doesn’t work. Sometimes when you catch the guy that did it, they find the means to get away with it. All they have to do is bribe the right people and they walk free. Even some police officers are susceptible to being corrupt and occasionally break the law themselves. This is why there are vigilantes like Spider-Man and Spider-Gwen that are willing to go against the book and actually make a difference. It doesn’t always help sometimes, but at least they are willing to do what they believe is right.

[@kissgergo5202]

The moment when you realize Hobie wasn't just taking random components from the base to be a rebel but to actually build his own watches, I love it when movie do callbacks like this and make the viewer feel smart for making the connection

[@alieninvasion2950]

In my opinion if you look at Miguel’s explanation for canon events you notice that it makes sense until you actually start to think about it and realize inconsistencies, my theory is that what causes a universe to unravel is for someone from a different universe to disrupt an event from a universe that isn’t their own

[@geodimo]

Animation art and dialogues at its best

[@rogue5242]

Some of the best parts of this movie is how the color of the background changes to show the characters emotions.

[@ManjulaHerath-i9q]

This entire scene proves that Gwen never actually betrayed Miles on her own will. The pressure of the recent events lead her to act like this. First she couldn't stop being depressed because of the guilt for the death of Peter and sadness for not seeing Miles Then her dad tries to shoot her and arrest her. People need to remember even though she is a super hero she is still a human . Think about what must her head be going through. After being accepted by Miguel she was basically brain washed about the canon events and about Miles being an analomy, therefore being banned from seeing him. Now if she really doesnt care about Miles why did she visit him when she finally gets the green light to get to hus universe fully knowing the consequences if Miguel finds out And in Mumbattan scene you can see how worried gwen was about miles during the canon event And when nobody had the guts to auuestion miguel she did that for Miles because she no longer could tolerate migueks treatment toward miles, which resulted getting gwen thrown out from the society . And when she gets home the 1st thing she does is get Miles and her photograph instead of money or food from her home. And she literally says to her father "I know that i cant lose one more friend " Abd if dhe doesnt care about Miles how csn she sense him in danger from another universe and why did she assemble a whole team to save him Gwen made some mistakes yes but that was because of the manipulation of miguel and the spider society , not because she intended to. We can see how she stars redeeming herself when she questions Miguels judgement

[@alhirsosa]

Does anybody else notice that everything changed at 03:02? This means that they have changed the other universes in a way that will be explained later

[@marshallring9614]

As a father of a daughter this hits me in the feels every damn time. The you're the best thing I ever done is so damn relatable.

[@TheforeverPigeonKing]

I like to think its a cannon event that all spidermen are b students because they pass all the tests but just can’t get attendance down

[@moon_wolff]

I watched the first movie in theaters with my dad and my sibling. I watched this movie with them too in theaters. This scene and the other scene in the beginning between Gwen and Cap. Stacy hits close to home for me with my dad. Long story short: relationship has been rocky with my dad the last couple of years, but when Gwen hugged her dad, the way it was made and looked was how a hug from a father felt when you're having a tough time and I was silently crying next to my dad cause he was there for me during mine. I love this movie and the pervious one. I'm excited to see the third film too once it hits theaters with my dad and my sibling. Can't wait to see what's in store for the finale 🤩❤

[@mrfirestar9604]

I love the background, it so dull and chaotic before turning clear and focused, it matches their mental states

[@sirjess007]

One of the reasons of why this movie should’ve won an Oscar over the Boy and the Heron and it’s insane how it didn’t

[@jsmaster4779]

I mean, they’re both goated movies let’s be honest. If Spiderverse was gonna lose, at least it lost to Miyazaki. Dude is pretty damn good.

[@andrewvillatoro4605]

⁠@@jsmaster4779Honestly yeah, they did a fantastic effort but Miyazaki movies are such a powerhouse juggernaut that it’s not even upsetting that Spiderverse lost

[@sirjess007]

@@jsmaster4779 so you agree that Toy Story 4 also deserved to win?

[@mxg75]

If it hadn't been Miyazaki's final film, I think ATSV would have won. There's still part 3 for awards, we saw how well Return of the King was rewarded for wrapping up the trilogy.

[@sirjess007]

@@mxg75 yet why does every Toy Story movie for and only example has to win an Award?

[@alive4metal731]

Hailee Steinfeld knocks it out of the park. Top class acting.

[@calebepaixao8398]

Miles: I need a watch to be part of the team. Hobie: Make your own watch!

[@smufflebubble7886]

I love how the colours go from "arest me" its completly red and dark. And then he says that hes quit and the colours go straight to pastel colours cause she seeks hope

[@tevinhoward4419]

Gwen felt depressed in isolation again after the conversation with her father later resigned the NYC pd she tried so hard but can't but afraid of losing miles not losing another friend Hobie came to him with a package for his daughter he created the web watch while arriving to earth 1610 but miles wasn't there but disappeared in another reality

[@SwiftGundam]

Gwen's Dad quitting shows that you can prevent a Canon Event from ever happening if you nip it early. Of course, that's assuming reality doesn't come up with a fix. A work around.

[@gear5soul]

I love this scene for two reasons 1. Gwen finally faces her dad and mends things up with him. 2. Through this interaction and her dad quitting the force, Gwen learns that the Canon Events are not absolute.

[@kensou2828]

the art and visual style is amazing

[@itsaugbog]

This scene always sends shivers down my spine. When I first watched this movie I actually thought there was no way for her to get back to Miles. Such an incredible rollercoaster of ups and downs that really makes you believe there is always a way.

[@TheKidWithPr0blems]

That’s why they made the eyes Expression very noticeable and visible, and it really shows their emotions and expression under the mask 👍

[@MegaMGstudios]

Love how the portal is Hobie styled instead of the other more Miguel styled portals, really nice touch

[@davidsantiago7808]

gwen's dad has that light skin stare

[@frankzhou6697]

everytime i rewatch these scenes im amazed by the details they put into them: When Gwen's dad flips the light switch on while she's leaving you can see the switch makes it look like he's holding a gun in the window reflection, which is why Gwen instinctively tries to disarm him with a web. Really highlights the tension and lack of trust she has with him after he pointed a gun at her at the beginning of the movie.

[@boredhuman6512]

God I love this. Having read a bit of spidergwen comics they did this moment so right.

[@andromededp5316]

I think the pink, white and blue colors used in the background when Gwen was opening up about her feelings and who she is was a very deliberate choice

[@ItsMe200801]

It's almost criminal this movie didn't win an Oscar.

[@scruffd0g193]

Loved the mood ring feel to Gwen’s world. Her fully realizing how much Miles means to her, it’s time to form her team and go rescue him.

[@fumarc4501]

Everything changes. It’s the things that can be prevented which aren’t always clear early on, or how to make change for the better. That always requires courage to try something new.

[@ProfessorMike64]

I want a Spider-Gwen in the Insomniac universe so badly.

[@G1Grimlock94]

Emotional 😭😭😭😭

[@hartantoanggoro]

I don't think Gwen redemption will fulfil her character growth before she apologized to Miles for everything.

[@BuffPomsky]

I would love to see the last movie start off with Hobie dropping by to give the watch and having a talk with the dad on what Gwen's been doing.

[@bananaman5590]

gwens dimension is so cool. im assuming the people in it can see the changing colours which would probably make expressing emotions a lot easier.

[@CrimpyPlate]

The actress who voices Gwen fucking kills it here

[@enk335]

I feel a little bad for Gwen's father. He spent months not knowing if he would ever see his daughter again.

[@inesatt1313]

The name of the soundtrack is "Falling Out"

[@ladend99]

The colors changing during the argument. To show their emotions were just. *Chefs kiss*

[@Nighthawke70]

Hobie may be a piece of work, but his heart is in the right place. Along with his insight. Gods protect him in all the dark places he travels.

[@pranavghantasala6808]

First _Bumblebee_ then _Arcane_ and now this; I don't know how Hailee Steinfeld keeps landing these banger roles but I ain't complaining for a second

[@PhenomenalApex]

Hobie always thinking ahead

[@AncientBeast65]

Love the voice acting. The moment Gwen learns her father bypassed the Canon Event, her voice starts to break then panting as she realized she got worried for nothing.

[@Redwoodtheowl]

I love how they make the colors show emotion