How do MOTOGP riders find the Limit?? Gypsy Tales Explains the insanity of Motogp Riders!

Have you ever wondered how Motogp riders find the limit? how they can so consistently drag a knee with no issues of crashing?? Well there is only one way to find out!
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Jeremiah Burton, the charismatic face behind the wildly popular Donut Media KZbin channel. Donut Media is one of the most well-known car oriented internet groups on the internet. Conducting a wide variety of Mythbuster style theories, Challenges, test and racing. If you havent heard of Donut Media go look them up.
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Enjoy this Segment as Jeremiah & I go deep into motogp talk!

[@Knoxvillemoto]

I completely concur. My first time ever even sitting on a bike was to do a two up ride with a former pro rider at VIR. I have jumped out of planes for a living and I was never even close to that scared. I've been hooked ever since. I do my second bike track day next month.

[@TheInfantry98]

Oh so you shot grown men in the face then ?

[@Knoxvillemoto]

@@TheInfantry98 lol, on occasion.

[@cfvgd]

riding two up is not compareable imo. you have zero control.

[@Knoxvillemoto]

@@cfvgd agreed. You are quite literally just along for the ride.

[@Bsteazy]

I did this with Troy Bayliss at Lakeside on a Panigale. I have never been so scared in my life. That falling feeling is something I’ll never forget. Also, the only thing I learned was that I’m a bloody pussy and cannot ride a bike hahaha.

[@controversyV4S]

holy crap thats freakin awesome! Bayliss is the man!

[@kkkjkk641]

Riding as a passenger is much worse than riding a bike yourself.

[@gideonsikk8733]

I'd be scared having a piggyback by troy lol

[@bobriley000444]

Its so weird going from dirt bikes where the trust in the front tire is like 30% to sports bikes where you need to trust the front 100% or else you'll just be slow af

[@DamienWright27]

Bro so true

[@PahaLukki]

Go supermoto?

[@victoralley708]

@@PahaLukki too slow

[@zachc334]

So fast you don't crash when you crash is such a crazy way to describe MotoGP that's entirely the truth

[@kirthooper4625]

Needed a ride to work once. Buddy who raced nationally back in the day picked me up on his gsxr 1k. Never again bro. Almost fell off the back like 3 times. Dude carried a wheely up on the on ramp to like 115. FML

[@CunningStuntsGoFast]

' it was not a fast bike ' yeah only a panigale v4r 🤏🤣

[@seneormoneybags]

cant be that fast w two people on it lmao i like how he also calls it a motogp bike a few times which in a way you could say given the piloting 😂

[@BrewsAndBraaps]

Not that it really matters, but it’s not a V4R

[@VState60]

@@BrewsAndBraapswhere’s the video??!

[@BrewsAndBraaps]

@@VState60 sorry what do you mean? What video?

[@VState60]

@@BrewsAndBraaps the video of him doing the 2-up ride!

[@AgisPetikides]

Where can we find the video of you riding two up with Jack?

[@jaymcnaughton8368]

One of the things they say about Gilles Villeneuve was that when the other drivers would move up to the limit is stages he would go over the limit and come back to it. That was what made him so exciting to watch.

[@mmpr335]

Man you gotta convince Jack to do a national in the US. I'm sure KTM could organise it

[@TheImtoomuch]

Where can I see this video of you riding with Jack?

[@advancedsettings9699]

Really laughing at this, pretty good

[@tammyforbes2101]

I always could tell when the bike is started to move Around little to much that’s far as I’m going! And usually I bring it down just a little after it moves some! I’m a big heavy rider so never had the front go out just the back. Now some bikes you can drift around a curve some you can’t! Some are faster just going as straight as possible and just getting back on the throttle!

[@andrewthag]

Ive never laughed so hard in one video literally the whole time i was crying 😂😂

[@1sttimegunowner]

I really wanna see jack miller podium moto gp

[@johnthompson9896]

He has already.

[@1sttimegunowner]

@@johnthompson9896 i should of clarified i meant this season

[@TheDarkhorse82]

@@1sttimegunowner not gonna happen

[@Romoto131]

@@1sttimegunownershould *have

[@radleykutek2969]

As for finding that limit of a bike, obviously pushing the limit tryna be the fastest on track all the time your gonna have a stack every now and then, that’s a given. But learning how to crash gives a confidence boost for lack of better words. But from someone who grew up racing mainly flat track and did a couple seasons in local supermotard and road bike racing. After finding the limit on dirt, tryna find the limit on asphalt to me it felt like the front tyre was screaming at me through the bars as I reached that limit. I’d either stand the bike up a bit while hanging off it further or slightly drag the front brake mid corner and I’d be able to hold my line even tho I’d missed judged and entered that corner slightly too quick… Does anyone else feel that or even that weird smooth feeling through the bars when you hit the white paint? Cheers

[@VState60]

Absolutely I get that feeling! I just hear the screaming at 12 degrees of lean angle while someone is passing me on the outside at 45*

[@TheInfantry98]

Lmfaoooo nice bullshit statement

[@JR-jw2du]

Turn 1 at the bend is an interesting one as you need to wipe a lot of speed off fast, but turn 17 is the one that has done me in the most.

[@MrSky084]

That's because most new riders think that it is 90 deg. It's actually 135 deg. Really late apex is required.

[@adamthepatsfan5963]

Imagine doing a 2 up ride with taka. You wouldn’t make it one lap

[@DroneStrike1776]

Or any GP Honda.

[@throttlehungry4821]

Oh 😂

[@phillysslydogsly4186]

I find it hilarious that only people who don’t ride are willing to ride 2 up. Bro i know how i ride, i’d never get on the back of someone elses bike 😂

[@js290]

no doubt... motorcycling is a solitary pursuit...

[@deevizm8035]

I wouldn’t get in the back of any of my friends bikes. But Jack miller around a track, I would jump at that opportunity. Maybe I’m bias because I’m Aussie and I hold Jack in high regards

[@loadtoad714]

lol @trackdaz is Busch league 😂 priceless

[@kirthooper4625]

Feel. It's what separates the good from the great. The greatest can just feel the edge of adhesion better than the mortals.

[@hast42]

Jack is a LEGIT GLADIATOR... Even the other MotoGP riders say he is crazy

[@osicogames1194]

The only and real insanity on this planet are the motorcycle riders on the Isle of Man race. I would love to see Cameron Donald, the fastest plumber on Earth on the podcast! Cheers! ☺️

[@chaseeason6789]

They aren't that fast, they're fearless. When those guys enter actual superbike circuit races, they get left behind.

[@TheInfantry98]

They are actually a complete joke when they compete on closed racetracks.

[@osicogames1194]

@chaseeason6789 Peter Hickman speed trap 200 mphs ≈ 321.87 kmh average speed around 218kmh! That's on a country road , yeah that's not fast at all! 🤡

[@osicogames1194]

@TheInfantry98 Yes, because it's called street racing and its quite different!. But what the hell i know about racing right!? BTW Peter Hickman was no joke at the Macau Grand Prix in 2023! 😂🤣😂🤣

[@future62]

Getting your head over and down is such a mindfuck. I just did a TD weekend and literally worked on nothing but that, and am still nowhere close lmao.

[@VState60]

No, dude…you were, just like me, doing it PERFECTLY…all weekend. And then you, like me, saw the photos…🤦🎉🎉

[@js290]

didn't Keith Code write that new bikes get faster and faster, but new riders are always the same speed 😅

[@Knoxvillemoto]

That's interesting. I watched a bunch of champ u videos before I even bought my first bike and they mention this. I started experimenting with this like the second week I owned a bike. It felt a little weird at first but then became pretty second nature. I found that it's pretty essential on a track because it helps me look farther the corner.

[@TexRobNC]

The interesting thing is, finding the limit in MotoGP changed, curious to see if this addresses it. Marc changed the game when he created the crash recovery maneuver, now it's practiced and done by others. It was always just accepted that if you lost the front at a lean, that was it.

[@rider65]

Crash recovery?😂 you mean Almost 100% luck? You mean a chassis and tire that were specifically developed for his riding style?😂 Honda developed a bike completely around Marquez as well as the Michelin tire for that particular bike and Marquez style as well. If you thought that he was anything special then how come he's not still doing it?😂 it's because other chassis have caught up and the Tire chassis combination were better than Hondas. You'll never see him do what he did before and it's not because of the accident that's just an excuse... stop being a fanboy put down the video games and pull your thumbs out son

[@RRFriction]

Nothing has changed about the limit!! The limit will always be the tyre. That's not crash recovery that's rider reaction There comes a point at lean where Marquez and a few!!! others use there elbow and need pads to stay in that lean angle I small few can feel when it's going to give and that's there reaction Marquez Acosta Pecco Marini most recently

[@cranky1812]

Lol, learn about the sport first. Everything changed because of electronic aids.

[@axelfoley142]

Were you born yesterday? Have you missed the impact of tech in motogp?

[@VState60]

@@rider65so much salt, kid. I bet you were pretty annoyed watching MM93 pole & podium this weekend, his third weekend on a bike that was developed entirely around NOT him. 🎉🎉

[@deangilbert8201]

hahahhah That would be a wild ride a trailer/go cart behind a gp bike.

[@williamfischer3990]

That’s a 100 percent right, guys who race in MotoGP almost have to crash in order to find the limit.

[@cfvgd]

not really. they slide with both tires all the time. they can feel the limit most of the time

[@danielservin2450]

Brother please launch your store. I want that Gypsy Customs Shirt

[@marcot3013]

Miller sounds like the Gilles Villeneuve of Motogp.

[@appoddigare5828]

Is this the guy from donut media?

[@JohnJohn-cu7nk]

My mate who was older than me used to push the limit of every car or bike he ever drove/rode every single time we were out.He used to clip curbs and sometimes sent cars through hedges.I discovered were the limit was and learned how to feal the revs and feal the grip and where it was going to let go.Riding 2stroke bikes with power bands in the late 90s RG 250 allso was another big learning curve.

[@bigsmokeyy6415]

I assume they’re talking about jack miller for red bull ktm?

[@Kiky001]

Yap!

[@JoshuaReidBackpacking]

Hell ya!

[@Realistic-American-Reformer]

We always called it, 'nuts to butts', regardless would never, no matter what circumstances, go 2 up on a moto GP

[@jag2039]

Ride in a Rally Car Next !

[@405bikelifeallin5]

The only 🍩 media guy I actually like

[@cfvgd]

riding two up is waaaay more scary because you have no control on your own. cant compare it to riding yourself

[@headwinded1948]

I can't imagine being on the back of a bike around a track, noooooooooooo thx.

[@pyrusmasterdan1]

i do a 2UP with dustin every track day lol

[@matthewmccain]

Of all Moto GP riders to get on the Back with. Jack Miller gives zero fucks and I love it. I’m sure he cut zero slack, and knew you were scared shitless so he gave it a bit more just for shits and giggles. By far one of the best to ever do it.

[@johnbrown4568]

A life fact -> MOTO GP RULES 💪👊

[@MrSky084]

At the 3 min mark you talk of doing 240 through turn 3. Um Nah! That was turn 5.

[@KSwapTheWorld69]

Is Jeremiah A Guest Or Is This His Podcast?

[@Falcon-ug5sk]

😂👏👏👏🤣💯✊

[@julskenttorralba6634]

bro looks like connor McGregor

[@budxkai]

Nah bro, you were on one of the fastest bikes in the world. Thats a v4

[@D3Syph3R]

Ded leader.. is that you?

[@louismartin4446]

Jack’s “psycho” part is the reason he rarely wins and will be out of Motogp soon. Sad, when testosterone overwhelms the brain

[@late828]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Bad-decisions-and-good-times]

He's a psycho. hahaha

[@stoempert]

Riding on the back of a moto going full clip on a track is the dumbest thing ever.

[@justinlee2642]

I rode two up with a guy....... Thats all i need to hear 😂😂 im out

[@TronVila]

Seriously

[@VState60]

^-Have never piloted a motorcycle in their adult lives -^

[@patmays7344]

Easily. You have a few laps until you feel comfortable, then you just need to do a few maybe 10 laps, every lap, increase your speed by 25mph, until you fall off? There! That’s your limit. So go between that speed @nd your previous good lap, ( before you fell off) and you’ll be fine! Hahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahahaha hahahaha hahahahaha hahahaha hahahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahahaha hahahahahaha hahahahaha hahahaha hahahahaha hahahahahaha hahahaha hahahahaha hahahahahaha hahahaha hahahaha

[@justin3131ify]

Wow this dude likes to talk.... alot! Or he just loves listening to his own voice

[@GYPSYTALES]

Wow, the guy who has a successful podcast likes to talk 🤯

[@bambo00]

Justin, go watch impaulsive, It seems more your thing

[@JacobiKenobi]

Here in the real world we call that a conversation.

[@VState60]

@@GYPSYTALESseriously…it’s like he’s paid to talk and engage the guests in conversation. Bizarre.

[@andremichau2455]

Ag, really? You guys can not communicate without profanity. So limited.

[@VState60]

You’re a 🐱🐈

[@LUCKIPUP]

wahhhhh

[@nrnsclark94]

"I'm sorry, but is anyone else gonna deal with the fact that Cap just said: language?"

[@brandongardner9829]

How the fuck can you talk to mates without swearing like a a Cunt??? I'm fucked if i can do it.