Ethan's Righteous Crusade Against The Wicked Lolipops - After Dark

[@gerrrb]

ethan hitting hila's boba in the last ep saying he didn't care if he got sick --> ethan getting sick

[@evaw.8580]

i was just thinking this lmao

[@supereero9]

Just like Ethan would clearly like to hit women against their will, if you know what I mean

[@Pickle_OG]

I didn’t order one bc calories. I don’t even like them. 😂

[@supereero9]

I bet he'd rather hit something else, and forcibly so

[@darwinray7394]

​@@halodeerwait, hasn't it been about a week since then? That's funny 😁

[@ripi-si3102]

Ethan saying he felt like he was being gaslight by a bunch of pedos, is in my opinion the most accurate statement. I don't think he realizes how true that was. Pedo adjacent still got pedo in it. If your defending drawn CP... You should look a little harder at yourself.

[@PlyrMava.]

They're rather look at kids than themselves

[@kenm8801]

hila saying “are we seriously going to sit and stare at this” w/ the most annoyed look on her face to the keffals chair made me bust out laughing

[@moyaxoxo5923]

Hila was heaven sent to keep Ethan grounded in reality 😂

[@chillarypuff]

The laugh that I let out was so ugly when she said that LOL

[@spaceykc]

She was appalled hahahaha

[@aleksandraszejnoga]

ts 😢

[@lyndsay369]

omg that killed me

[@rnazyyav]

Hearing Dan or Zach absolutely CACKLE in the background always makes it ten times funnier

[@jasminethompson9022]

Their laughs are my fav 😂

[@zyprexza]

agreed and it never gets old

[@klau666]

That’s the only live audience I need 😂

[@klau666]

Also Love’s giggle 🤭

[@conmanb5334]

Hila sucks period! She is boring and adds nothing to the show.

[@Slayqueenatron]

I would like an arc where Ethan and Oliver team up against the worst of villains facing our generation: Jay Shetty.

[@crystalrose8394]

I think Ethan keeps trying to dunk on Dan with his perfect hairline because he's actually jealous that he can't grow a full beard like Dan can. Ethan might be "The Hairline King" but Dan IS "The Beard King"

[@25Jake]

Sooo true

[@MacGuffinExMachina]

With peace and love, Ethan's hairline is too low.

[@charlieh3510]

@@mmmeaganDan is the show. Dan is the moment.

[@firmanang9132]

Beard Queen*

[@siggyfresh4467]

You clearly haven't seen homeless Ian 🔥🔥🔥

[@riggytoni]

" love the concept of tearing down lollies! " great moves, keep it up!

[@tayenbezaire]

" I love the Failure podcast!

[@KierstenReadsALot]

" wow " epic video " dan is the queen

[@danarenee2931]

" 100% bro

[@juke2523]

Honestly just bet Ethan lost his voice because he was singing every lyrics to Oliver’s songs at the top of his lungs.

[@PinkDesertEagle]

No 😡😡😡😡 Why would you say that?!

[@Eveoriginalsinner]

ONANDONANDONANDON

[@DFK24]

If Vaush wants to avoid being saddled with accusations it behooves him to act more stable and rein in his ego.

[@baabaq9126]

Perfect 😂

[@Ssavory417]

Reigning in his attraction to children and animals would be helpful as well

[@SunburnCity]

@@Ssavory417 yeah nah not really funny. Also he has grown away from his edgy behaviour

[@SunburnCity]

​@@Th3oSK you don't know if he is watching loli anymore than anyone else. Like or hate him, you can't see into a persons mind or watch everything he does. He has presumption of innocence, and it is merely witch-hunting to want to tar and feather him in the way you and many others want to because of emotional bias.

[@angeldream1]

@@SunburnCityu mean neigh

[@darbywalters12]

I am a Canadian teacher and I attended a professional development session on child internet safety on Friday. The presentation explicitly mentioned drawn (Lolly) and AI generated explicit content of children are being prosecuted criminally the same as other cp!

[@haraheartless4717]

As they should be amen

[@thoughtfulgrandpa]

That's right! It's even illegal in Washington where V lives. It's almost like instead of sitting around laughing about all of this horrific cp they claim to have 'proof' of and dressing like horses etc they could just call the police instead- you know like any sane person would. But they don't. I wonder why.

[@mother7219]

@@thoughtfulgrandpa It's extremely difficult to actually prosecute someone for lolicon since a lot of the characters are "technically" of age. Hell, getting the government to prosecute CP of any kind is difficult.

[@lovebugea]

That’s ridiculous lmao

[@JassZoigel]

Fun fact canada is not usa. We don't have freedom of speech like they do

[@Reya66]

Ayo not the timestamps suggesting to skip the Oliver Tree call in 💀😭😂

[@chillarypuff]

Love is doing COMEDY !!!!

[@cicic5340]

So mean😂 love their humor

[@Mollyarty]

fr gabe's date idea is solid. Sit and chat, get to know each other, go to a movie, then ice cream. That's awesome

[@briteboy7536]

Gabe’s this season’s wildcard

[@KierstenReadsALot]

BACH3LOR FOR GABE

[@nunya5057]

ice-cream is the movie debrief bonding opportunity :) he’s thought about this

[@whatintheworld7624]

Doolittle about to audit Ethans current sickness

[@MegJuniper]

Omg💀

[@tree4318]

jakeypoo

[@alyssapierce4401]

this had me cackling

[@sarahrocks4eva]

Seriously tho I’m waiting for the video 😂

[@dd4271]

He’s going to open up the spreadsheet

[@zinniasegura7508]

Dan breaking the fourth wall and saying "If you're watching right now, youre the only one" was so trippy

[@jamielee3182]

I felt so alone 😢

[@jnoot9044]

I was so high during this bit

[@coldplay3488]

lowkey scared me 💀

[@josipat4039]

Timestamp?

[@thevaultofwisdom1242]

This show doesn’t have a fourth wall lol it’s not a fictional show. Dan is real, not a character

[@Deathman125]

Dan volunteering for every trip always makes me laugh

[@kennapenguins]

And never going on them too 😂

[@chicken]

I think Ethan keeps trying to dunk on Dan with his perfect hairline because he's actually jealous that he can't grow a full beard like Dan can. Ethan might be "The Hairline King" but Dan IS "The Beard King"

[@NeedleInTheHay1990]

I think you mean Beard Queen 👑

[@leor.1475]

@@NeedleInTheHay1990Dan is the queen!!

[@Cleeboos]

Keen is the beard king, gnome out

[@hkandm4s23]

Wow. I don't understand why people don't get it. Ethan is a parent. He looked at the Vaush shit because it was funny horse stuff. Then found the things he said about cp and was horrified. Looked for more context- still horrified. If you are a parent it's quite simple. Hearing someone compare cp to any other commodity is gross. Even thinking about children in porn is nauseating. That is why he's doing this- not really any other reason.

[@rekkwaffle7668]

Finding 3 sec out of context clips is doing the research. Buddy, no it isn't.

[@johannaweigelt9163]

@@rekkwaffle7668the context adds nothing bruh

[@guadium5910]

Appreciate the defense of Ethan but being/not being a parent is not relevant to this.

[@rekkwaffle7668]

@@johannaweigelt9163 if you choose to ignore it, sure. I guess not. If you know what the context is, how about you tell me what it is? Go for it.

[@rekkwaffle7668]

@@melissataylor7349 it's not horrifying. Ethan is using the same clips nazis have tried to use before.

[@cdizzy42069]

Zach playing that slide whistle when Ethan said he felt goofy on stage was low key hilarious

[@Thatdentalgurl]

Tickled me

[@MethSloth]

keffals using a cartoon infant avatar to make that video is wild lmao

[@GG-jiggles]

"31:25 Oliver Tree calls in (you can skip this part)" took me out in the description 😂😂😂❤

[@LavenderSun-xw1rx]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 hadn't looked at the chapters yet today that's fucking hilarious 🤣

[@Ganador1853]

As a european fan of the show: Thank you so much for starting 1h earlier from monday on. Its so hard to stay up every time but i love the show too much! :)

[@christianmorales8996]

Gabe as a host during rose ceremonies announcing shit in real time would be iconic

[@jgon321]

I second this!!

[@luke6457]

Fuck baby fuck, Jeff’s gettin it on fuck baby yeah

[@dontbesuchaflopbae6093]

It's honestly insane how vaush defenders continuously state that ethan and the crew never show the additional context of the vaush clips yet cut out the parts where they show the additional context 💀 Edit: With peace and love, the lollipops are NOT worth arguing with in the replies ‼️‼️

[@bostontowny4life744]

Because they’re pedos themselves. It’s that simple. There’s no reason why any sane and normal man would defend an adult that looks at CP. because that’s what lolli is, cp.

[@miisa_]

ikr💀 like did YOU actually watch the context where they showed the context?? cp defending dumbasses

[@rekkwaffle7668]

Maybe that's because the problems ethan is whining about are answered with the full context?? What's your point. Ethan won't do the research? Great point.

[@Iminsideyourwall_]

@@rekkwaffle7668found the pedo🤢🤡

[@freshjunkie4392]

@@rekkwaffle7668bruh just because sweat shops and cobalt mines are unethical doesn’t make loli okay argument makes 0 sense

[@NoreastaProductions]

Okay, I had to comment when Ethan was talking about how great the battle scenes in Korra are. I have a great friend who was the martial arts coordinator on that show and will say that every combat scene was filmed live action with actual martial artists to be used as reference for the animators. So much care was put into the details of that show and I'm sure he'd be happy to hear you enjoyed it. Also can confirm, there was a LOT of stuff they wanted to do that Nickelodeon wouldn't let them get away with.

[@booferooo]

I would love to hear some other examples of things they couldn't include on the show because of Nickelodeon! It's very interesting(:

[@carmandirda]

I love Ethan getting jumpscared by the drink cam 😂

[@Racheldelg]

I rewatched it like 3 times i was so weak 😭

[@InsaneclownPolicy2]

I would just like to point out that keffals left the part where vaush said "if anything owning a T-shirt is actually worse than owning cp" out of the dead cells clip. Thats why the clip resumes right when vaush is saying "you like that? You're all worse than cp owners." She is leaving out context that makes vaush look bad while accusing people of taking him out of context. Genuinely evil behavior.

[@DinggisKhaaniMagtaal]

This needs to be boosted

[@KierstenReadsALot]

Boost this

[@shadowdragon3521]

It's all projection with these people. They do whatever they accuse others of doing.

[@FringeSpectre]

Y'all are acting like this is some kind of revelation. People knew how unironically evil Keffals was well before Ethan ever had him on the H3 Podcast. It's just that you guys are lefties, and lefties typically treat troons with kids gloves, and therefore y'all didnt bother digging in to see why people were after Keffals to begin with. Just an example of the evil I'm talking about, Keffals was apart of a covert discord op where they sent bathtub hormone kits to children, encouraging them to keep it secret from their parents. Keffals was literally going after children to induct them into his degenerate discord tranny server.

[@grey6703]

it’s so clear; there’s also no context that would make it right

[@alexanderorr2528]

I feel like Keffals and other loli defenders are purposely obfuscating the issue by referring to them as minors instead of children. Anime characters are very sexualized so I could easily see someone seeing a lewd picture of a character that is supposed to be 16 in the source material but looks like an adult without realizing it. I've seen the loli tab on porn sites and that is absolutely not the case. Absolutely disgusting content depicting VERY young children who have not even begun to enter puberty, it honestly made me feel nauseous even seeing the thumbnails. This is not a case of mistaken age or identity it's a grotesque sexual attraction to the bodies of children who look no older than 9. There is something fundamentally wrong with your brain if you see stuff like that and illicits sexual arousal.

[@LuKing2]

Did you just admit to having looked at animated CP?

[@alexanderorr2528]

@@LuKing2 No obviously not dude as I pretty clearly said in the comment I've seen thumbnails of it on regular porn sites I have negative interest in watching something like that. Maybe actually read the comment before insinuating/accusing people of weirdo shit, if you struggle with reading so much take the time to read it twice. Legitimately uncool and clownish behavior.

[@LuKing2]

@@alexanderorr2528 genuinely, i can't ever remember even seeing thumbnails of loli shit or anything related when searching for shit on porn sites, things like that don't just pop up unless you're searching for it, especially considering so many sites just outright ban loli videos and related stuff

[@faith8090]

@@LuKing2bruh as if you give af considering the fact that you’re defending it all up & down this thread. you can preface every comment with “i’m no vaush fan” but that’s not really the problem here is it? sick. all of you.

[@LuKing2]

@@faith8090 what am i defending? Vaush is a hypocrite with a degenerate sexual fetish, i just don't like how Ethan is implicating people like Keffals, calling them pedos and weirdos etc. For adding context to the clips ethan showed.

[@robinduffee6447]

57:53 I’m cackling at the drink cam, I love Ian so much

[@jennhansonxlove]

Ethan’s reaction to it was amazing 😂😂😂

[@gracesgoodvibes]

ethan and hila talking about meeting oliver's parents was so cute 🥹

[@miseriabelle6843]

I got to this part as I read this ❤😂

[@Flurgburglr]

As a fellow scandinavian I find it really surprising and weird Love hasn't heard about artichoke. It's pretty common here.

[@srenhjlund1873]

Well the man doesn’t eat vegetables to be fair 😂

[@AEIOU_Y]

He's an odd one

[@vesper7750]

"Kronärtskocka" is a Swedish classic!! We eat it natural (boiled tho) and dip the "leaves" in butter and maybe sprinkle on some lemon juice /a Swede

[@vesper7750]

@@nunpho I think that might be it, because I just remembered that here in Sweden it's a very common pizza topping, so surely he must at least know it from there. They put just the tiniest bit (probably because it's rather expensive) in the middle of (some styles of) pizza's here. It doesn't really taste or look like a veggie so he might have eaten it without knowing what it is, haha. Ethan showed him a picture in the episode (off screen for us), but that was probably the whole vegetable, which is very different from how it looks when it comes from a can which is more common because they're only in season for a brief period. When they're in season we boil and eat them as is with butter.

[@vesper7750]

@@nunpho it's great, you should try it!

[@Squishyisabelle]

my brother has epilepsy. it was very nice to hear Mia’s shoutout to donate

[@KierstenReadsALot]

Thank you Mia!

[@kamillaazim4862]

Yeah, took me off guard cause I’m also epileptic. Family❤

[@lucasmcclure2757]

Shout out to the family, Gf is also epileptic!

[@AEIOU_Y]

Husband's epilepsy was actually a brain tumor

[@acct6687]

Even I am offended at keffals alleging that you didn’t include the context she provided WHEN I HAD TO WATCH IT WITH YOU

[@idrathernot4012]

@@LuKing2I agree, but they will always claim that it’s out of context as long as they don’t watch the full streams the clips are from.

[@tunnelsloth5948]

​@@LuKing2Did you watch this podcast or the first podcast? They still showed Vaush's explanations for all of them, even if the initial clips ended early

[@LuKing2]

@@asuka-ryo yeah vaush is a degenerate weirdo, no doubt about that,i'm not defending his weird fetish

[@notCynicalReally]

​@@LuKing2 fam, I'm gonna be real, but like even with the full context, even after watching the hours of livestreams from everyone, it's still weird AF. I'm a bit of a debate pervert myself, I even enjoy playing devil's advocate on occasion, but I have never in my life tried to say anything remotely like what Vaush said. Like, what shit is he smoking to compare csam to exploitation of capitalism. Both are bad, but like, buying chocolate or diamonds doesn't mean you will go out yourself and physically participate in slavery. *Buying* csam is soo much worse

[@tuxedomask697]

@@LuKing2right but vaush said himself I can see why people would confuse this for loli and had the artwork done by a loli artist. that’s the most important and honestly only thing that matters in all of this. Doesn’t matter where he defended for or against CP he still had artwork of a girl who may be a loli but most certainly is being confused for one

[@JennaAnnLoves]

I truly feel like I’m losing my mind reading all these comments defending vaush, there are so many creators to watch, why this man 😭

[@Iminsideyourwall_]

Go report those!!!!!

[@Ahrecks0]

Because he doesn’t grift. He organizes political action and he doesn’t sell merch or take sponsors. He doesn’t serve slop like this channel. I was an h3 fan for years but this was a realization moment for me. Ethan only cares about his business and that’s about it. Not truth or anything. Just making money. He saw the left as an opportunity to make money and now that the well is dry, hes making a move for the right

[@miisa_]

Yeah and why are they here🤮

[@Ahrecks0]

You’re just wrong?

[@cassandra811]

@@Ahrecks0 Oh look I found one🐴 Just go, bud. You’re miserable. So just go🤷🏻‍♀️

[@alexwalker1097]

“Today seems like a good day to burn a bridge or two” 311 lyrics work so well with Ethan.

[@LydiAtheistLady]

Ethan, orange is a GREAT color for you to wear. You look so good! Also Cam is killing thumbnail game. I love y’all

[@johnparker8376]

I've recommended this podcast to all my family and friends.

[@sarahschouveller1993]

You forgot the html 😆

[@kaitlyns9972]

Shoutout to your family

[@Rexmoona]

Vaush is basically saying "we can't penalise all abuse against children so therefore lets not penalise or morally stand against CP". Solid argument dude, not sussy at all. Then on Keffals video multiple comments saying "he was kidding about jerking to loli" or "he wasn't be serious about that." how many times does someone have to make comments about it before someones like ehhhhh

[@DubhghlasMacDubhghlas]

It is all tribalism for them go back to the first pod Ethan did on this. They were all offended because Ethan dare to be critical of Vaush.

[@ZepTheGamer]

Literally the opposite of what you said, he wants it all penalized

[@DubhghlasMacDubhghlas]

@@ZepTheGamer he as loli porn on his pc and said we all have jerked it to loli porn... then said loli porn is cp. Dude Vaush has issues.

[@WhatEver-bx2hu]

​@@ZepTheGamerThe fact that he consumes CP implies otherwise, that's the issue.

[@milas8766]

​@@ZepTheGamer how exactly does "there is no legal or moral argument against cp" say cp should be illegal? or how about "people shouldn't be penalized for owning cp"? i would understand it if he said all produce is as bad as cp and therefore should all be considered bad, but he seems to say it the other way around: since chocolate is immoral but is legal then cp should be as well... insane

[@Cat-vl2ch]

Everyone comparing buying csam to buying products of child labor/slavery and vaush saying “there is no moral or legal argument against possessing cp based on our current legal frameworks” is the most frustrating blatantly false comparison because it completely ignores intent, which we absolutely care about in both our societal and individual moral judgments and our legal system. The reason you are buying illicit goods impacts your legal consequences. the reason you killed someone impacts your legal consequences. your awareness of participating in illegal activity impacts your legal consequences.. the fact that so many people are pretending that intent doesnt matter and that theyre just critiquing systems and individuals shouldn’t be held accountable is so gross and i hate that i share a society with these people. individuals should be judged for seeking out and getting sexual gratification from csam more harshly then seeking out and buying a computer with the intent of using a computer. if everyone who bought a computer masturbated to the idea of child slaves making it then maybe i could see a comparison but otherwise its an absolutely useless argument. There is a spectrum of things you have control over. vaush and all of his defenders continually imply that “well we all buy fast fashion so how can we denounce cp” … you dont have to buy fast fashion? if that’s something you believe is wrong you should avoid it. things like technology are really basically impossible to acquire without unethical production somewhere along the supply chain, but there are alternatives to most other things. if not completely ethical alternatives, there are still ways to reduce the harm your consumption is causing and people should do that to the extent they can. with csam there is ZERO barrier to not consuming it. you don’t even have to watch porn . avoiding participating in the harmful impact of csam is as easy as not looking it up. if these people can’t understand this im scared for what else they justify to themselves. theyre saying “oh you think this objectively evil thing that nobody has any good reason for doing ever and can easily opt out of is bad? then why dont you denounce this other complexly evil thing that most people have a good reason for doing and is difficult or impossible to avoid? checkmate”

[@odakruger858]

Yeeeeees!!!!!!!!

[@bunklypeppz]

He never said we shouldn't denounce cp and none of his followers believe that. He is saying that the structures of consumer capitalism should be dismantled because they are as ethically harmful as cp. You're not wrong about the importance of intent with regard to morality and legality, but the point is that he was arguing against the notion that we should accept a degree of child exploitation if it is for the greater good of economic prosperity (a pro-capitalist point) and he was making the point that there is no acceptable degree of exploitation that we should willingly support. He also was never defending the act of purchasing cp, he was saying that it should be unobtainable because it should be completely illegal to create or distribute it, just as it should be to create or distribute anything that relies on other severe forms of exploitation.

[@Cat-vl2ch]

you can argue that we should dismantle systems of exploitation without saying its the exact same as possessing csam and arguing that individuals have no responsibility in either case. its a bad argument that, intentionally or not, ignores the differences between the two and doesn’t provide anything of value except justification to creeps and a reason people shouldn’t try to be better. you can think hes innocent but its a bad argument. he has also said he believes csam should be “legal and more ethically consistent” and that individuals shouldn’t be expected to try to reduce their consumption of harmful products because the systems are messed up. these are bad and harmful arguments that are not improved by the fact that he was trying to criticize capitalism. in his debate with vegan gains he stated that he thinks consumption of cp and exploitative products are both morally neutral. he said that it is hypocritical for people to criticize csam when they buy computers. vegan gains said “dont you think people should try to reduce their consumption?” and vaush said that while he thinks its good to, he doesnt think people should be expected to. he is not JUST saying that the systems should be dismantled, he is using that to then ALSO say that individuals shouldn’t be held responsible for participating in harmful systems across the board. that is what im arguing against. he has also said “i have made the argument that it is not unethical to consume cp, im never going to come down on someone for what kind of porn they get off to, what kind they PAY FOR, that you could have some arguments for”. a separate time he said “if you are not paying for cp then there is NO ARGUMENT in favor of morally condemning people who get it”. he explicitly does not think possession of cp is wrong, just like he doesnt think owning a computer is wrong. but no one has to watch cp, though computers are pretty important for a huge amount of reasons. it is a stupid comparison. im not responding anymore so argue with yourself.

[@bunklypeppz]

@@Cat-vl2ch I'm not saying his arguments are completely sound; I am saying that I think he was hyperfixated on the placing the emphasis on dismantling capitalistic structures and overlooking various distinctions and implications within the analogy for the purpose of making his point. The comparison isn't 1 to 1, but you are committing a similar fallacy by acting like there is no value to his argument beyond normalizing the acquisition of cp. There is absolutely some validity to his point, but the takeaway from the points he brings up can easily be offset in either direction, depending on which aspect of the argument one chooses to place emphasis. Someone could argue that "your emphasis on the cp component of his argument serves only to further justify the use of child slavery by perpetuating the acceptance of consumer capitalist ideals". Neither position is 100% accurate, because it depends entirely on how one is inclined to interpret the points being made, which is why Vaush's argument was misguided to begin with.

[@Froggele]

@@bunklypeppzHe has repeatedly said that there is nothing wrong with consuming CP and that people who do it shouldn’t get in trouble for it. If he hadn’t outright and firmly said that numerous times there would be at least some plausible deniability and people who ride so hard for him could say that he was just condemning all forms of exploitation but because of that you have no room left to wiggle. He has said it with his chest that he doesn’t think that consuming and even buying CP is immoral (that’s the opposite of condemning exploitation of children but rather excusing it under the guise of „moral consistency“) and then on top of that the leak happened and revealed that he has lolicon saved on his computer. The writing is on the wall but some people will never open their eyes.

[@Olivjade]

To say that an adult and CHILD can mutually benefit from a sexual relationship is the most disgusting disgusting disgusting thing he has said. Like I’m actually angry.

[@Ruby-gz7gh]

Yes!!! And then the idiots defending it like “ you didn’t get the whole context” like who gives a fuck about the context! It’s disgusting period!

[@apriljk6557]

I agree, if that was actually said. Correct me if I'm wrong but iirc he said "positive outcomes." Which some are charitably interpreting to mean that a csas could have babies that they love or grow up to be an advocate that makes stricter laws as a result of the abuse they endured...I think it's only natural to be defensive when Ethan called everyone trying to make the case for the context they've witnessed "pedo apologists." I haven't seen many actually argue that cp is fine but Ethan and his fans saying they're all "lollipops defending cp."

[@apriljk6557]

To be clear, I didn't see the full context of the quote you're referring to and I agree when I saw that clip I was disturbed. I just see a bunch of people, maybe parasocials, believing the streamer they trusts explanations, knowing this kind of thing has happened in the past and that publicly, at least, he's been vocally antiloli. If the folder that Ethan's holding this "cp" in was leaked, you'd have a similar reaction because you "know" him.

[@PartanBree]

The amount of hairsplitting going on trying to defend what he said is crazy. There is no justification for saying that. It doesn't matter what "point" you were trying to make. That statement is an apologia for crimes, even if the speaker didn't mean it to be. Vaush and people supporting him seem to want to discuss ethics, while excluding the actual words they speak from ethical analysis. But speech is an action, and saying something like that is an action with *demonstrably harmful consequences*. Context be damned, the very fact he ever said it was wrong and should be apologised for. Not "I wish I never said it because it was dumb and had bad consequences for me" - "I'm sorry for saying it because it was wrong and harmful to say".

[@Olivjade]

@@Ruby-gz7gh right!! It doesn’t matter if u say “but usually it’s bad” ITS ALWAYS BAD BC IT IS SICK FOR AN ADULT TO WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH A CHILD

[@Pomshka]

🦔🦔 HELLO ETHAN & HILA! From me and the hedgehogs at the rescue! Listening to you to keep the hedgehogs company during the night shift! You keep us entertained!! With peace and love from the 🇬🇧🦔🦔

[@mrcody5707]

Aw that’s cute.

[@ChromicLights]

My hedgie just started showing symptoms of WHS, but she's had a good run luckily. She's almost 3 and I love her with my whole heart :) Thank you for doing what you do for these beautiful creatures

[@Pomshka]

Can I ask, have the symptoms come on suddenly? Or gradually? WHS is a very slow and progressive illness that usually shows up from birth and slowly the hedgehog looses mobility over a period of months! Has your vet tested for a Calcium deficiency? (Called Metabolic bone disease.) Ear infections and spinal injuries can also cause a loss of balance or mobility! I truly hope your little one can keep on going and live a happy life yet! I genuinely think hedgehogs are too precious 🥺 We don't deserve them ❤​@@ChromicLights

[@wheresthelambsauce1587]

awn my sister had a hedgehog ,and gave him away to a recuse ,his name was chunky lemon milk 😭

[@Pomshka]

@@wheresthelambsauce1587 That's an amazing hedgehog name ;_:

[@kevinmccarthy2841]

Sam saying "it's a southern thing" at 2:55:48 needs to be a soundbite.

[@momochipuff]

1:11:07 I hope uncle stays forever. We love having him each Friday!!🎉❤ next bachelor for sureeee

[@LydiAtheistLady]

Yesss oh my gosh yes!

[@shadowA91]

Never thought in my 32 years on this planet that we would be doing "whataboutism" to defend CP. I'm so glad that Ethan and the crew are standing on business ruthlessly calling out these people(if you can call them that)

[@shelbyellsworth6310]

Same. Like WHY are these people defending it like it’s a normal whoopsie?!?

[@anniewalkama]

I said that on a different KZbinrs post, how I can’t believe this is even a topic of debate when we as a society know it’s wrong and disturbing. No shit the replies I got were “oh what society your society” “You’re only looking in your own bubble” “What about child brides?” It was chilling, these people are just blatantly out here arguing it. But when you have huge creators “debating” why it’s not morally wrong, deviants and evil run with it.

[@FabiolaRVela]

@@shelbyellsworth6310yeah even on here there’s weirdos defending that argument and asking about “context” that doesn’t exist 😂

[@Ianprodu]

House of Gord putting someone into a hole in the floor of their living room is a top 3 moment of the show

[@worldprincess5531]

that was terrifying

[@Ianprodu]

@@worldprincess5531 I won’t deny that. That’s also why I think it was so memorable because how does anyone go about finding out they are into that stuff 😭😭

[@elaine9276]

Ian going "don't go to that website btw, it's fucking CRAZY" and it immidiately crashing was hella funny

[@TheCasualYouTuber]

Time stamp please? I must have been distracted when that came up

[@pandemmonium]

Gabe needs his bachelor episode, look at him holding his rose! He’s waiting to give it to a special lady. ❤

[@Perra__]

Submit him to love on the spectrum

[@laurenmosolf6336]

Yes! Gabe for season 4 bach3lor!

[@bbbildhuu]

Nah that would be not a good show

[@laurenmosolf6336]

@@bbbildhuu ok...I hear where you are coming from. Maybe Gabe is too pure. You think too many people would try to take advantage?

[@HollyWatson99]

@@laurenmosolf6336absolutely unfortunately, Gabe would be great but I don’t know if there will be many authentic people. Hopefully I’m just being too pessimistic though

[@leopardgeckotalk]

Rip Ethan’s basement. Must admit I do watch that channel for members content.

[@a65gful]

Rip 😢

[@gabbybumpus]

Simple solution = become a member it’s literally $5 a month??

[@nars1288]

So happy a content court is coming 😩😭

[@PhoenixDesigns0420]

(@55:01) As a web designer (back and front end) I can confirm it is extremely unlikely for an ordinary person (no coding knowledge) to use the " as quotation marks, since it's a backend coding syntax used to generate quotation marks in the html code. That is definitely a coding bug where the developer made the syntax a string type which will see the " syntax as a word and therefore print/display it as a word. IMO it might be an autogenerated comment which is compromised of two parts. The first part (with a " bug) seems to be for the video title, and the second part would be the standard comment sentences (possible that they pull comments form other videos) and store in an array that cycles through the comments and inject the video title (using SQL/mySQL) with his current video.

[@Kentama]

As a LAMP and Java Enterprise developer for 20 years, your opinion sounds more like something an enthusiast who's only vaguely familiar with software engineering would cobble together. While I agree that "s showing in the comments are suggestive of a buggy script, your speculation as to how it was done is jarringly nonsensical.

[@keenban]

​@@KentamaI agree with you but I feel so bad for how hard you ripped into them it was so concise and brutal ...😮

[@FarkOSRS]

"KEEP MY WIFES NAME OUT YA FUCKIN' MOUTH" - me when Keffals mentions runescape

[@imaDUCKIE11]

Its so frustrating all of the people responding on behalf of vaush, and vaush himself, seem to all have not watched the entire context all while using the "they didnt watch the entire context" as a defense, the god dam irony man.

[@supereero9]

The full context is that Ethan Klein is a misogynistic biggot, g*nocide supporter and a borderline s*x offender, yet he's still better than Vaush, what a world we live in...

[@supereero9]

Except Ethan has said things that make him not really much better than Vaush

[@idrathernot4012]

@@supereero9like what?

[@bunklypeppz]

I'd say what's frustrating is h3h3's refusal to show any context that contradicts the narrative they are trying to present. I'm sorry, but Ethan/Dan are literally 100% lying in this reaction to Keffals; the way Dan pauses the video at the same part of the clip they had already shown and says "let's move on to the next time stamp"... that was literally right before the "context" that people keep telling them they are missing; the clip goes on for another minute or so and Vaush makes it very clear he is not in support of cp being legal or obtainable. Also she showed a clip from a few years ago of Ethan saying an underaged character was "hot" and that it's not wrong because "she's just a cartoon". They literally curated the Keffals video to make sure they only showed enough to make it seem incoherent; I watched her vid before I clicked on this podcast and their coverage is scarily dishonest.

[@imaDUCKIE11]

@bunklypeppz I have yet to watch this specific episode in full, this was more of a thought to some comments and the last two episodes that they spoke on this, however when I do fully watch through that segment I'll keep your comment in mind and also give her video a chance if I feel they didn't watch in full context in order to be disingenuous.

[@reagang5238]

Currently watching this broken down on the side of the highway to keep me comforted

[@RainbowScoobs]

Legend. Hope you get fixed up soon

[@30for30Freestyle]

u make it out ?

[@blvdgz]

we’re rooting for you

[@wiggly_worm]

holy shit i hope you came out of that safely !! I had that happen to me on the CRAZIEST loop on a highway. I was driving my family back from thanksgiving. Take your time when you get back home to ground yourself cause that shit causes you to go into shock. Seriously hope you got outta there as safe as possible. Peace & love homie. ♡

[@strikeiksp6629]

any updates?

[@alicetoyou448]

Keffals: “Ethan is unfairly attacking me because I’m trans!!!” Also Keffals: “Why won’t Ethan attack Chris from Mr. Beast without knowing anything about the situation??!” 😂

[@AllTheArtsy]

Keffals legit just wants to go after other transwomen? Why? So she is going to ruin her reputation for Vaush. And she wants to attack Natalie and Chris? Who is anti-trans now???

[@Ragnaraq1]

you're so good at not comprehending anything

[@alicetoyou448]

@@Ragnaraq1 you’re prob right. Cheers, my horse! Love ya, no p3do!

[@wanderoutdoors6094]

I do think it is pretty messed up that they're not calling out Chris when the same behavior is brought to attention. They should take this more seriously, and it does show a bias

[@alicetoyou448]

@@wanderoutdoors6094 I think they just didn’t do the research on it, and I think that’s valid. Ethan is the lawsuit king and knows when he feels confident on a topic and when he doesn’t. That’s why he feels fine with the vaush stuff - he knows enough. I’ve heard this chris thing on keffals video and side mentioned a few places but i don’t really understand it without more info either

[@AnnaVictrix]

I think my favorite thing about Keffals and Vaush’s brand of intellectualism is that their arguments wouldn’t even pass a HS debate class.

[@oceaniidol]

@technotomboy do your arms hurt from how much your reaching ?

[@TaylerJones]

VAUSH LITERALLY SAID, "consuming child porn is not morally wrong" so im not really sure what person in their right mind, who is not attracted to children, would say that...​@@oceaniidol

[@oceaniidol]

@@TaylerJones watch his explanation ffs..

[@Hannah_Egg]

Keffals going in to detail about teddy fresh is giving Dolittle overanalyzing Ethan's blood test.

[@GloomyboyVid]

1:43:04 as a trans man this really upsets me, because keffals was THE ONLY PERSON to bring up trans issues to the table when it came to vaush situation,im sorry but you do not speak for all of us. leave the trans community out of you defending vaush

[@teamcharlie393]

Need a sound bite of Hila saying, “Here comes the baby!” 😂😂

[@bensanders5681]

I cannot wait for Vaushs response video. Im also eagerly awaiting for Ethan’s response to the response. And then vaushs response to Ethan’s response to vaushs response. It’ll be great.

[@LuKing2]

I think vaush stated he won't engage with the drama further

[@supereero9]

Ethan Klein is a misogynistic biggot, g*nocide supporter and a borderline s*x offender, yet he's still better than Vaush, what a world we live in

[@supereero9]

@@nunpho Ethan doesn't because he only does content for money

[@0ut.the.0x]

@@supereero9it's almost like making content is his job and source of income😵😵😵😵😵

[@LuKing2]

@AshiwiZuni no, I'm referring to Ethan's beef with Keffals

[@Kieranisplaying]

The “no more members content” isn’t even Ethan keeping stuff behind a paywall - members were complaining and unsubbing so, kinda no choice imo.

[@vicv7075]

Never thought there would be so many CP enjoyers out there but it seems like 80~90% of vaushs audience agrees with him and I’m not sure how to feel about that. 😐

[@kaitlyns9972]

You’re not sure how you feel about that? Really?

[@RainbowScoobs]

The bouncy baby is killing me 💀

[@Swampycooter]

Dude same….like what..the fucccc!!!!

[@cadetlimbo]

from a european viewer thank you(!!!!) honestly so much that extra hour is a lifesaver for me on some nights big love to everyone

[@Daraka.]

"I'm not pro-lolicon and if I thought Vaush was, I wouldnt defend him". Clearly thought isn't one of her strong suits.

[@supereero9]

What's wrong with refusing to defend lolicon?

[@Daraka.]

@@supereero9 It's a quote of Keffals' tweet. Her defending Vaush implies she doesn't think he's pro-lolicon. If he's not pro-lolicon, I'm an alien fucking dragon.

[@princesstuesday5287]

@@supereero9pick a side lol all your other comments are pro-vaush so it’s clear you’re not anti-loli

[@supereero9]

@@DexterChacko I cannot watch a person as problematic as Ethan being praised by the online left just because there's a guy who's worse

[@supereero9]

@@Daraka. I agree, he's guilty as he has not sufficiently proven he's innocent, it's a really basic concept called the presumption of guilt

[@gje3]

Ethan- *being sentimental to Gabe* Gabe- *starts weekly staring contest*

[@SadieRayy88]

Is Vaush living in an alternate universe? In what world does a minor having a sexual relationship with an adult benefit the minor? You don’t have to have a degree in psychology to know how damaging it is for a child to suffer from sexual assault. Which is what a relationship between an adult and a minor is. He needs to be on a watch list. I’d love for him to stand in a room full of adults and spew his beliefs on this matter. He wouldn’t make it out of said room. CP cartoon or otherwise is disgusting, and I can’t believe people are standing up for him.

[@matthewdekker6064]

Guys, those "quot;" things aren't colons, they're quotation marks. They appear around quotations that people are quoting from the show. And yes, I would bet they're coming from a foreigner running a bot program in html and they're getting messed up after Ryan sends them the comments and they're put into the program, and the person running it is either too lazy to change anything and/or hasn't bothered to check if it's actually working right.

[@cassandra811]

Yeah he must’ve copied n pasted the quotations w the ridiculous monotone “best podcast ever! 5 stars recommend to everyone I know” and the ppl doing the bots are just lazy n don’t care lol.

[@Badgirlmichelle]

“I feel like I’m so goofy on stage”🤪😝✨

[@deemiun3853]

Hahahaha it was so funny

[@chillarypuff]

Hes so silly goofy n quirky 🤪

[@kathykenss]

When he swayed side to side I lost it lmao

[@keepsaek]

Why do Vaush defenders sound like mini Onisions

[@FabiolaRVela]

Because they are

[@blakeanderson5011]

Keffals is going to blame a relapse on you. I’m calling it now. She’s doing way too much to stand up for a popular friend and I would love to respect that loyalty if it wasn’t around the disgusting topic it is, especially for a recovering addict and suicidal person. The unfortunate thing is, is when she weaponizes these flawed personality traits about herself to the people giving her criticism is something else.

[@cluecumber]

Keffals has done a complete heel-turn away from leftism this last year and is now in full centrist weirdo grifter mode. I wish her well but wouldn't be surprised if she already relapsed.

[@kylee2556]

Just here to comment on how amazing the thumbnail is. Cam kills it every time. 💛

[@joshstewart1015]

Zach uses the Vausy “WOOOOOOAH” so well. Chefs kiss

[@ee5647]

ZACH YOU ARE TOO GOOD 1:25:11 “I was bullied because I had..hair” XD

[@sethdunlap842]

In that Better Call Saul clip Keffals showed…does she not realize that the attorney showing that video evidence LOSES that case to Saul!?!? 😂😂😂 this is beyond parody! Thank you Ethan and crew for what you do ✌️❤️

[@jackdaniel3135]

So nice to see that the internet has become so inclusive. Even a disenfranchised community like trans people get their own grifter

[@waisetsubunsho7934]

The podcast time just moved from 6am to 5am for me. 1 more hour and I'll be well on my way to becoming a hustler ceo 🥰

[@lirpa5]

That Keffals video is unhinged. These Vaush people are insane.

[@cassandra811]

Yeah n their weird asses are in the comment section making me psychically cringe at how annoying they are. Still at it, “nO cOnTeXt” “BaD fAiTh” same dumbass shit yet continuously being undeniably absolutely SO wrong lol

[@supereero9]

And Ethan is a CP consumer, there is no good side on this

[@LadySKizo]

@@supereero9how tf is Ethan a cp consumer?

[@STOOPIDDUMBY]

@@supereero9 Bro Vaush isn't going to fuck you. You're not a child (I assume)

[@danielcooper7174]

@@supereero9 I keep seeing you replying shit like this on half of the comments, do you have a life? or any proof of this?

[@TrooperSixtyFour]

ethan being so confidently in the right and knowing it is a spectacle to witness

[@supereero9]

Ethan Klein is a misogynistic biggot, g*nocide supporter and a borderline s*x offender, yet he's still better than Vaush, what a world we live in

[@supereero9]

Ethan Klein is a misogynistic biggot, g*nocide supporter and a borderline s*x offender, yet he's still better than Vaush, what a world we live in...

[@supereero9]

Ethan Klein is a misogynistic biggot, g*nocide supporter and has a suspiciously accepting attitude towards SA, yet he's still better than Vaush, what a world we live in...

[@supereero9]

Ethan Klein is a misogynistic biggot, g*noc*de supporter and has a suspiciously accepting attitude towards SA, yet he's still better than Vaush, what a world we live in..

[@supereero9]

Except Ethan has said things that make him not really much better than Vaush

[@madlovee]

i gotta say ethan looks actually pretty dope on the stage, the long pants with crocs and his low fade cut really makes him look like a fashion icon!

[@doyoufeelbonita]

The biggest red flag about this whole situation is how Vaush has single handedly convinced his supporters that they’re fighting a broader fight that isn’t only about Vaush. Straight up all of these people are being gaslit into believing that Vaush is saying the same thing as them.

[@A2Z83]

i believe vaush is a manipulator and is exploiting and grooming his viewers. he is exactly the type of person lgbt people should avoid.

[@danarenee2931]

Completely agree, I keep seeing so many arguments saying “he isn’t saying cp is good, he’s saying it’s all bad!” but like if it’s all bad, why did he have saved images of exactly what he’s supposed to be “condemning” like it looks so bad and the least they could do is admit that

[@marcocassone5996]

Vaush: People are saying I downloaded Loli? Completely disingenuous framing. Yeah, it was loli. Yes, the artist is a loli artist. Yes, I downloaded it. BUT there's so much more context. This situation is top tier level of cognitive dissonance from a whole community. It's crazy; I'm so disturbed these people are loud and proud.

[@Buck_Bentley]

The funny thing is so many people have looked it up to confirm if they think it is loli or not. Including Ethan. I haven’t seen it, but it is weird that people are looking up loli just to hate on Vaush. Vaush said the image is of a “short stacked” woman and he likes the giant “hog.” Is it a child-like I don’t know, but weird that Ethan is looking at loli to get a hater pass.

[@madhere4994]

Good ol archangel Gabrielle 😇💅

[@angeldream1]

He is so good

[@sarahschouveller1993]

I laughed so hard 🤣🤣

[@KierstenReadsALot]

The crew laughing at him got me I honestly didn’t bat an eye at first lol

[@ms_katia2267]

Ethan looks like someone who hunts in full camo

[@coralrose5754]

Nathaniel Klansman

[@zoar5768]

Thank you for exposing Vaush, I was not aware of any of this & did watch him occasionally, which as a CSA survivor makes me sick to think off.

[@caseroo]

Send Dan to Hawaii for a week. He has earned it 1000x over

[@Bananaterricottapie]

Lmao!! Zack and Dan butchering "beautiful disaster" WAS a beautiful disaster 😂

[@BV_12345]

Slowly making the kinetic sand videos bigger to cover the bopping of the little dog in the chair KILLED ME 💀😂

[@GreenEggAndSAM2]

So happy Ethan spoke out about this. I really opened my eyes to all the wrong doings of Vaush. If I had known about the poppy stuff when I first started watching him, I never would have continued. Thank you for bringing light to this dark situation

[@circavia]

y’all can’t do the “you’re the only one” 4th wall break when i’m high 57:00

[@sarah.n.]

The sip cam is amazing. Camera quality and lighting is 10/10

[@samuelcareen5563]

I need a soundbite of Hila saying, "Chill with the accusations"

[@Anthony-uz5tj]

sounds like hilas boba last week got ya

[@angelicaxoxo5900]

LMFAOOOO THE PEOPLE DEFENDING VAUSH GENUINELY NEED HELP😭😭😭 say you like children and move on LIKE DAMN

[@duckydude34]

Keffals went out of her way to drop one of the worst videos of all time

[@KarleneAlyssa]

Shout-out to Kelsey S for the gifted membership! I had fallen asleep during the pod and woke up to it this morning ❤️

[@daisybb]

I really, really love Gabe. He is so wholesome and sweet and lovely.

[@mariediop9551]

As an Italian viewer sarting an hour early will let me watch more of the show live🎉🎉🎉

[@hailey56]

There was a time when AB would say to like the video and I would every time. But I never remember on my own. AB should be on Like reminder duty again ‼️ ❤️

[@chasesigler9885]

Thanks for filling his place

[@phanthomas1982]

Keffals did all this and Vaush basically stabbed her in the back, not caring about her at all. This sure was all worth it!

[@TheUglyAnswers]

I love the assertion that Contrapoints is like an otherworldly sage, who only speaks the truth. All fax.

[@megaladon4748]

Vaush seems like the type of guy to correct you when he asks for the time because “it’s not 2:00 it’s 1:59” *I wasn’t trying to time stamp*

[@supereero9]

Exactly, which is why I dislike him, I'm still not making haphazard allegations of pdf

[@0ut.the.0x]

@@supereero9ethan is not alleging that he's a pedo. what he is saying and that he had loli on his computer and that that is disturbing and alarming

[@smelly42]

@@0ut.the.0x unironically will forever be more suspicious of those who obnoxiously bring up stuff vs those who basically keep to themselves after drama. Ethan going after this 3 or 4 streams in a row is highly suspect to me. loli content is fuckin everywhere why is this particular case worth talking about for more than 3 min......unless your projecting something

[@ORiOh4582]

@@smelly42 vaush brings it up, defends possession of, and the purchasing actual csam all the time. you goober

[@keepsaek]

"it's a little before 2" "No but HOW MUCH before 2 is what matters you spineless fucker"

[@azebramoomoo2727]

Making a response video without watching all or even most of what you are responding to is crazy

[@heyguysitsshea]

Vaush didn't watch all or most, he literally didn't watch the video at all