Hacked the Brake Bridge Out of my Fixed Gear

[@myfavouritechair]

The frame is in grave danger of catastrophic failure if you cut out the seat stays and leave the brake bridge.

[@Spindatt]

Currently my favourite comment

[@rimtism123]

The seat stays primarily carry a load from top to bottom. So the opposite ends of the stays are being compressed toward each other. So removing that brake bridge will hardly do anything. It'll be fine.

[@kellymckenzie4865]

Oh my god thank you for keeping the rotor. So damn funny.

[@justineaves1977]

The frame becomes much more vulnerable without the wheel bolted in if you cut out the brake bridge but with the wheel bolted in the axle becomes the Third point of stability so as long as you're not riding around with an imaginary wheel on the back you should be fine👍😄

[@ek8507]

while i dont think there's any short term risk to the frame, its worth mentioning that this is potentially not worth doing on all frames; the brake bridge is welded on, which means that heat is applied to that area, changing the material strength and fatigue life. a failure on the back end, especially on the seat stay is typically not catastrophic. modification to bikes are always a "try at your own risk" deal. just make sure the next owners of the bike are aware of the same risks you, the modification maker, are. Really what i'm trying to say is: go for it, but be smart, and be ethical.

[@Eric-Red]

My first BMX bike, a Mongoose, had a removable rear brake bridge. It would loosen up and slide down and lock the rear tire. Tore it off and rode with only a front brake for the rest of my childhood.

[@danielochoa4905]

you're a wild man

[@Mclovinthedank]

I bought a Poseidon X because of this channel! If you start doing ads with other bike companies, I'm gonna go broke quickly.

[@BruceChastain]

looks good, I'm impressed it cleaned up so well

[@JesseDoesHVAC]

I think you were spot on when talking about being met with negativity when you decide to head down the path less pedalled when it comes to bike mods. I can relate, I have been building a 2021 Giant Roam into a wide flared drop bar, gravel rambler with 650bx47 Wtb senderos on some shimano Mt500 27.5 wheels and a 11-40 11spd cassette running a 1x 42t from chain ring and using my older 5800 105 rear derailleur, 105 5800 2x11 sti shifters paired with Giants connect brake booster system that is then adapted to some tektro post mount disc brakes with 160mm rotors....eberyone said it couldn't be done but stay the path, do the research and you'll be surprised what is actually possible when you shed the negativity. Peace out my dude I thoroughly enjoy your content in your vudeos keep em coming!

[@markjthomson]

The brake bridge is to take braking forces... not frame/riding forces... it transfers braking load to the seat stay. Removing it shouldn't be a problem! My track bike doesn't have a brake bridge anyway...

[@jacobdarnell2828]

so should i do this with a steel frame?

[@adamyelle4901]

Funny thinking back to the early days of test pilots who would fly experimental aircraft and just hope for the best. Today removing a non-structural bike part seems crazy to some people. Where is our manhood? LOL! Looks super clean with that removed. Nicely done.

[@patientswim6888]

wHeReS oUr MaNhOod

[@jonathanbrown2485]

There’s actually a hardtail (trek something I think it is) MTB that doesn’t have a seat stay brake bridge from factory. Saw it a few weeks ago and thought it was pretty cool.

[@michaeltillman886]

I like the Hack, but only time will really tell. Good luck. Peace!!!!

[@Ducky667k1]

That's what I was thinking

[@thepedlad7946]

Want to do this to a old mtb frame for bigger tyre that uses disc brakes, any reason to not do this

[@SeargentFirestone]

Not to mention that with the upsurge of disc brake road bikes, brake bridges on seat stays are intentionally left out by design. And that's on carbon frames with significantly thinner tubes. This bike will be just fine!

[@why3011]

these were intentionally put in by design, do bike designers know what they're doing or not?

[@SeargentFirestone]

No, it's just that people seem to misunderstand why they were put there in the first place. If you don't run a rear caliper break, there is no need for the seat stay bridge.

[@why3011]

@@SeargentFirestone my bike has a bridge on the chain stays as well, it's pretty clear why they're there.

[@why3011]

@RollinRat uh

[@beofux3356]

Nice field experiment. I like the opportunity to fit in a bigger tire rather than just take out one more chain link. But does it make sense to have a bigger rear tire, if the front still has not enough space to fit the same size? 🤔

[@Spindatt]

Probably not, but the fork on this could fit a 50 all day

[@dunabomber]

You should go 650b with 50c wheels. It is literally THE DREAM

[@IvanSanchez-b5i]

Do you have put that's front roter

[@Spindatt]

it needs it

[@GeekonaBike]

My ghetto tracklocross, runs a 38 x 19 aka 2 to 1. perfect for the mainly hilly single track I ride. Are you running that tall gear cuz you plan on a lot of paved stuff or was that just what you had laying around?

[@andriephillipcornelio2242]

What brand those bars ?

[@tonylp9265]

Are those Cyclesmith socks 3:56? Asking for a friend.

[@Spindatt]

they are. tell your friend

[@dominicwalker9947]

All steels the same....right?

[@Rozbujnik_Rumcajs]

I cut brake bridge from my steel fixie few years ago. Zero problems.

[@GeekonaBike]

I think the Posidon Tracklocross is Alu

[@humildemarcelo]

@@Rozbujnik_Rumcajs Really? how does it feel, I think the bridge is causing me trouble adjusting the dropout alignment

[@Rozbujnik_Rumcajs]

@@humildemarcelo I dont feel any difference

[@Rozbujnik_Rumcajs]

@RollinRat If we still talking about cutting out brake bridge, I think way in witch tubes are connected is a lot more important than frame material. If they simply welded to back of seat tube (like in poseidon), brake bridge add almost nothing to frame strenght. If they brazed to sides of seat tube (very common in old bikes) its may, or may not, suffer more from side loads.

[@jiglesmackle4081]

I was thinking of doing that to my Polo and Bike CMNDR. its a triple triangle 4130 cromo frame. You think it would hold up

[@lindsaylavallee5012]

Love your channel !! Have you ever done a build taking an older road bike & converting it to a single speed ?? If not could you please think about it ??

[@davidburgess741]

Looks cooler like that. Never had a back brake but occasionally turn wheel around to the freewheel side if I'm going on a hilly ride and install a front brake. If I were riding single speed regularly I'd want a rear brake too. I just don't want to match that beautiful powder coated paint or I would do this.

[@jakobsanktes6090]

Did this to my fixed gear frame because of this video for the same reason. Hope it holds up

[@thepedlad7946]

Did it hold up

[@catdogfishcake]

0.2% reduction... OMG your bike is gonna explode!!!

[@danielcox9850]

I did that on a vintage scott usa frame.....it didn't go well, and now it is a piece of wall art. So bully for you my friend! Looks pretty clean to me.

[@brendonnoble5227]

Did I hear you say "and Stop Messing With It"?, no I must have imagined that.

[@ALTER__S]

I order the frame couple days ago they change the brake bridge , its higher now. Its way better and can fit bigger tire ,but it doesn't have the mount you have to screw it yourself which doesn't bother me

[@maxab7e63s5]

Did the same thing on my old mtb frame when I change from Canti' to V-brakes. Absolutely NOTHING happened.

[@MillionMilesAnHour]

Seriously want to do this to my rat bike, might wait a few weeks to see how this holds up...

[@bgymr9722]

So what is the biggest tires that fit once you remove that part that has a lot of wedgies in here.

[@oldguitars]

And now the bike is WAY lighter!! Win win!! :)

[@marlerr__4235]

Im currently in the process of hack mine off but main difference is my frame is steel so i can weld back on if im bored

[@Spindatt]

It’ll be fine without it! Basically just a place to mount things

[@bsdooby]

such a cool looking bike!

[@michaelfreeman2399]

What about skidding?? just curious

[@YoungDoug13]

Your end card ultimatum, made me LoL

[@xsjado513]

i wish i did this to a jamis nova race i had a couple years ago i could have cleared 40c in the rear!

[@chainsawenthusiast]

that frame is sweet, but i can't find any info if poseidon ships internationally, does anyone know? EDIT: nevermind, found the info

[@rodrigoulloa6992]

You should paint the posiedon Like a squid so ez bike

[@cyclerevive]

Looks great

[@dunabomber]

also, anyone noticed the AROLDO bike at the start?

[@toftii88]

Feels like stretched tires, and I dig it. Of course there are folks who will take it to an extreme, but a missing brake bridge is like a 215 on an 8” wheel. Shit’s cherry.

[@allanridesbikes5856]

Huh. I've been wondering how important that part is.

[@rafaeldelfino4549]

If you need a rear brake its pretty important :D i have seen track frames without a bridge

[@allanridesbikes5856]

@@rafaeldelfino4549 I've got disc brakes. So we're good.

[@metiks111]

I would try to sculpture it a little bit to get the clearance, and if that didnt help i would, remove it.

[@brendonnoble5227]

I have a really bad idea! Could you make a hardtail mtb into a softail?

[@davidburgess741]

I've done the opposite! JB Weld! Cured loud pivots. Now for that tired headset!

[@LowTensionSocialClub]

I'm not against this per say, but there has to be a functional reason why track and NJS frames keep that bridge there

[@danl2294]

I want to see you do a hacked lefty fork

[@ronwhite8503]

Righty fork.

[@twoforties4246]

Fuuuuuuck yessss ive been wanting to do with my poseidon

[@Charlie_alpha_romeo]

Can't stop Don't want to

[@JogBird]

he wheels will flex well before the frame will

[@kristiandawe85]

My 2016 opus andante 2.0 road bike has no brake bridge, it's a disc break bike. I don't see it as a structural problem on any bike without a break bridge.

[@rolandovera5935]

COVID case rates just shot up because you removed your brake bridge !!!!!!

[@johnnydoe66]

Probably safer than to continue to ride a bike that has a nice dent in the frame from a crash....Just my opinion

[@codythomas5913]

I mean you def don't need it, look at Weis

[@tooslinamino]

expect not intend surely

[@takocat9618]

Omg dude be more gentle when removing stuff from the frame ,it looks like you carved too much on the left side that could make the frame weak ,if you are careful enough there shouldn't be a trace of a bridge being there just go slow removing material with a file and then with sand paper but don't go crazy with the grinder lol I like to remove pivot posts from frames and I like to take my time making sure everything is even and clean :3

[@geoffgovey9093]

that's going to void the warranty!

[@Dustybutdigital]

Enough ads in this video here, my dude?? Maybe add five more

[@2321brendan]

I reckon you should take more material outta your ears!😁

[@colingreig1355]

Birst

[@alanduren6326]

becond

[@skinny.bike.bronson]

Birb?

[@chrisbailey1966]

bhird

[@ronwhite8503]

What's burst?

[@PoliticusRex632]

Now if you can just spackle those holes in your ears😆

[@ggedney1]

You have a bicycle part stuck in your ear.

[@MVBriscoVolante]

Everyone saying this looks “cool” or better is profoundly ignorant. I can’t believe anyone would destroy the structural integrity of a frame for looks, despite whatever that 0.02% thing says. No frame builder will skip on a brake bridge regardless, which is why you see undriilled bridge posts. This should be 100% disclaimed as to not try or emulate by others. If you need the larger tire clearance, get a frame designed for it. Saying this appreciation comes from “fear” and is a “world is ending philosophy” is insulting too.

[@guycampbell5285]

Structurally, all a brake bridge might do is increase transverse buckling limit if loads were different from one side to the other. Since this is a single tracked vehicle, this can only be possible to the limit of tire traction. Brake bridges were never installed for structural integrity, but to allow mounting of brakes. I agree no :(or few) frame builders" will skip them, as most frame builders do not have the ability to do stress analysis, and so must repeat what works. I do not see a brake bridge on English cycles one sided bike,

[@DenisChenchik]

you must be fun at parties

[@MVBriscoVolante]

Denis Chenchik congrats on the most original and inviting comment of all time

[@DenisChenchik]

MVBriscoVolante my pleasure, sir

[@umeko204]

The double triangle frame design predates center-bolt mounted calliper brakes. Brake bridges are not structurally integral to the design of the standard double triangle frame. This is regardless of wether the frame is steel or aluminium. Plenty of frames have been made for 150 years, without them. Since you want to call others ignorant, i feel it’s worth pointing out that in this case, the ignorant one is you.

[@kellymckenzie4865]

Oh my god thank you for keeping the rotor. So damn funny.

[@event4216]

Rotor makes this bike road legal. Any police officer will agree to #FrontBrakeMatters