How to Conquer 32 Fear Easily! | Hades 2

[@xN30]

The hourglasses in phase 2 are reduced by Deep Dissent. Instead of summoning 12, one on each number of the clock, he only summons the first 6. It’s actually pretty clutch since you can murder the first 3 during his invincible phase.

[@flanger001]

“How to beat 32 heat easily!” 2 minutes later “It’s not gonna be easy!”

[@joedorben3504]

32 fear is never easy for the average person no matter what

[@yadamspiezer]

@joedorben3504 Not easy, but consistently beatable if you don't take the hardest vows. No healing foe the entire run and 5 minutes per biome is for God gamers only.

[@Haelian]

Perhaps I was selling myself short LOL I do think this is the "easiest" way currently though.

[@Haelian]

@@yadamspiezer We didn't do 0 healing, I changed it before we started.

[@Jkirek_]

​@@yadamspiezer5 minutes forces you into the easiest setup; killing everything quickly lowers the chances to make mistakes and take damage, and forces you into a good build.

[@DavekayBSC]

I just beat a 32 fear run last night using this aspect (I agree that it's the best for this post the staff nerf) but a completely different fear setup. Zero healing and ultra strict timer for me is just a no go. If I'm trying to kill everything as fast as possible to not get killed by the timer, I'm going to make mistakes, get hit, have no healing, and I'm dead. Instead, I did all the enemies and no time limit. This axe works really well for kiting enemies. Get them all to chase you nice and close together, then cast them (with scorch or something to chew through their hit absorption) and smash. You can take out like 10+ at once, then just dash and grab all their ghosts before they respawn. Repeat until the room is clear. Demeter on attack and special is great for locking them down and dealing with a ton of enemies at once. Combined that with a ranged cast from Zeus or Hestia and something on it that does continual damage, and you're good. The Night Bloom Hex also made my run WAY easier at the end. Chronos' minions hit hard, and being able to continually turn one of them on him (since this aspect uses tons of magic, you can be raising new zombies constantly) massively increased the damage I could do to him. I think Night Bloom is the second best aspect after Moon Water, (and you could argue it's BETTER after the Moon Water nerf). NB requires zero additional tree options to be extremely effective, especially at the end game where if you don't have any upgrades to most of the other Hexes at that point they are entirely worthless.

[@MrPyschonoob]

Yeah personally if I'm doing no healing, I'm not taking the more damage for enemies. I also refuse to take revenants no matter what.

[@maito1794]

Thankfully I managed to beat 32 fear before the momus nerf, but I appreciate this videos so much, thanks

[@danielle7988]

hahahah i was in the middle of tryna beat 32 fear surface with old momus and when i read the update and watched his vids i freaking made sure to bulldoze with momus before updating

[@musicz0nesm489]

@@danielle7988 what was the momus change?

[@ayala5154]

@@musicz0nesm489 normal specials had more power and there was a hammer that made specials follow foes and launch two projectiles, basically you had to spam right click and you won the game. Now the aspect and hammers are reworked so that strategy doesnt work anymore.

[@joedorben3504]

that doesnt really count since momus was stupid broken, people even beat 50 fear with it before the nerf

[@maito1794]

@@joedorben3504 That's true lol, but it helped me build my confidence. Now that I have beaten 32 Fear, even with the broken aspect, I feel like I can do it again Charon is by far my favorite aspect, so I might try this build later

[@origamiwithabhishek3821]

For the math part in BORN AGAIN boon For RARE GRADE : max magic is 80 u prime 8 magic each time hence, u prime 10 times And total magic amount u get is 440 But assuming u only use your special u are gonna use 45 magic each time so u can only utilize 405 magic i.e., 9 times. For EPIC GRADE : max magic is 70 u prime 6 magic each time hence, u prime 11 times And total magic amount u get is 400 But assuming u only use your special u are gonna use 45 magic each time so u can only utilize 360 magic i.e., 8 times. Hence, Rare grade was the right choice here

[@Haelian]

Thanks!

[@origamiwithabhishek3821]

@@Haelian np! 😁😁

[@malikhittam1440]

You actually do get fewer enemies in chronos phase 2 with deep dissent. Without it, 12 hourglasses spawn, one by one, on each of the 12 numbers on the clock. With deep dissent, only the first six spawn

[@Haelian]

Ahh I had never taken notice exactly how it worked there.

[@manfrombc5162]

Definitely worth rarifying Born Gain at the start there.

[@joedorben3504]

Even with the extra priming?

[@CoachJohnMcGuirk]

I don't think we can get the votes

[@manfrombc5162]

@@CoachJohnMcGuirk that's funny 🤣 I fixed the typo.

[@brandonedwards6119]

@@joedorben3504 You end up with more magic available by a good amount with at least one max magic reward.

[@HeyLuke]

@@joedorben3504 At rare, max magic is reduced to 80 and at 8 magic primed that's 10 "charges" of Born Gain. At epic, max magic is reduced to 70 and at 6 magic primed that's 11 charges of Born Gain. Picking up max magick during the run also becomes more valuable with epic Born Gain. But I guess the boon is so strong it doesn't really matter.

[@shivamked]

Thanks Haelian. Your arcana and fear setup helped me breeze through 32 fear for Surface and Underworld. I used Lucid Gain instead of Born Gain, as I was constantly offered the Hammer which increases the magic cost for Omega Special.

[@foragings]

watched the first 5 minutes of this and then went and beat 32 fear the same day… i’ve never been able to beat 32 heat in hades 1 (not for lack of trying) so this was such a victory for me. thanks for the help 🔥

[@samanthalouise641]

Managed to beat 32 fear for both underworld and surface following this so thanks for sharing. I never used hera’s magic regen since I mistakenly thought the magic you primed in a room carried over to the next room now that i know it’s not the case god damn it’s amazing. I had to do 7 minute timer, I kept running out of time with Kronos second stage and couldn’t do the first surface section fast enough with just 5. I got to say besides hera, Demeter was such a god send for my run, got both her curses for origination and coarse grit because i take hits I shouldn’t and capping damage at 15 despite my vows was great. But yeah thanks for the help and the awesome content.

[@homonym7638]

Fiiiiinally beat 32 fear following your guide after what felt like 32 hours of attempts. Thanks Dan!

[@Asdom100]

The morph death explosion and morphed enemies appearing in Casts makes great carbombs.

[@AKTKWNG]

I've actually started using The Unseen arcana (magick regen) over Strength for high magick consumption aspects like Charon and the torches for high fear tight deadline runs. It really eases up your boon choices to not have to hard roll for magick regen within the first few chambers or risk timing out on Hecate.

[@austin2994]

Thank you for the guide and build. The 5 min timer is brutal but I was able to get a 16 fear clear.

[@ВячеславШолохов-ф9п]

My fav setup for this run is Hephestus + Hera duo boon, since it works with Mint Condition and Born Gains. You can manipulate gods choices ad get it in chapter 2. After it's smooth sailing. Casual +200% damage on your special is great!

[@Metalissst]

Saw your vid. Tried your build. Blasted the two 32 Fear runs and unlocked the third statue on my first go. Thanks !

[@linusekstrom272]

Thank you! I did this but opted for higher health and more revenants instead of the timer. I think I would just make more mistakes while being stressed and I could accomodate the increased number of enemies and longer fights by being more methodical. Worked like a charm!

[@duckerke]

Got both paths literally first try with this exact loadout, thank you! :)

[@brie7760]

lol amazing vid, my fav part of the day for sure is when i come back from gym, getg my food ready and can enjoy it while watching you play, please keep making vids!

[@neligio6167]

This did help me to beat 32 fear, thanks! Took a bit of different vows and came to Cronos with only 1 dd, but managed to beat him.

[@Saracen93]

For this build another idea would be to keep some healing and do rebuke, BUT make sure to take Demeter/Hestia cast (or gale force) to proc the blue hearts. Lightning lance works too for damage and extra distance. I just think 0 healing feels bad.

[@joedorben3504]

he did keep the healing on it

[@Saracen93]

@@joedorben3504 I commented too early oops

[@bobbobby475]

Night Bloom summons no longer take damage from you BUT will still eat / block your attacks so bad with Demeter or any hard CC. Also they attack ridiculously faster now.

[@Jkirek_]

They can block your attacks, but at the same time they can also block enemy attacks to protect you (including hecates hex)

[@randomguy6680]

Finished 32 using Momus for easy first chambers, the hammer that heals whenever I kill with an Omega Attack to help stay alive and a perfect Wolf Howl for the later parts of the game. 1.4k damage for 25 magick with 1s invincibility is strong enough. Had the magick and health regen Arcana so I did not need any boons at all. Was fun and shows that different builds can still beat 32 without it being significantly harder.

[@WickedMysteria]

Tried to beat 32 fear with 5 min deadline and keep failling, after the 4th attempt ended up taking a truck of unnecesary vows just to play it safe at 7 min and now i'm night's champion

[@dinostorion]

Thanks for this build! i was able to defeat chronos with 32 fear just now. Although i encountered a bug that may have helped me. died during chronos' slow spell and my next run was very slow

[@NorinTheWaryR]

I love Aspect of Charon, and I considered it for my 32 Fear Run. Instead, I still needed to get 20 Fear testament for skulls, and went for 32 on Aspect of Mel. Got super lucky with the Omega Attack Hammers and coasted on easy street.

[@falcondjd]

9:26 Increasing the rarity gives you 444 mana vs 440 mana. However. the Hera boon effectively gives you free mana for overspending, and if you take that into account and just use your 45 mana cost special, you have 745 total mana vs 675 total mana. So increasing the rarity was the better choice. However, both are so good, it might be better to increase the rarity of a different Hera boon. When you take into account the free overspending mana, it is always better to upgrade it, no matter which rarity. (630, 675, 745, 855) And this isn't taking into account the fact you are getting additional max mana throughout the run. Once you take that into account, upgrading it becomes even better. TLDR: it is always better to upgrade the Hera mana boon unless you want to upgrade a different Hera boon.

[@falcondjd]

I didn't take into account the fact that your max mana need to be high enough to use the special. I thought Born Gain let you spend until your mana was 0, so that changes how much benefit you get. Anyways, this makes the normal, rare, and epic all the same with 450 magic. (10 uses) The heroic is worse with 360 mana. (8 uses) However, one mana upgrade makes it so upgrading the rarity is better. (855, 945, 990,1080) The benefit of pomming it benefits the higher rarities more as well. (Ignoring the bug that causes pomming the boon to remove priming cost.) TLDR: upgrading it didn't provide a benefit until two rooms later, in which case it was better.

[@OmeganKryist]

I actually feel like night bloom and twilight curse hexes are in a much better place now. Lunar ray mainly still just needs to let you dodge while casting (I’ve said this before). The buff to wolf howl makes it great, probably the best damage hex, total eclipse is underpowered in comparison now I think. But I think perhaps a way to make these hexes more desirable in general, while preserving the current design is just to immediately give you a path of stars upgrade upon acquiring the hex. The keepsake for Selene should also guarantee she shows up as either a hex or a path of stars (same as the other god keepsakes) essentially.

[@Dentei3]

Thank you so much! I needed this.

[@LucasAndrade-rb7fe]

I should have beaten 32 before the momus nerf, now I'm here trying to find out how to do it

[@evancolby2274]

This is exactly the build that I used to beat Chronos for the first time. It's stupidly good.

[@reirei4510]

Finally! beat 32. Evil eye destroys Chronos and Eris. I used vow of bitterness and vow of haunting lol

[@koco_]

For 32 Fear, I think using Vow of Panic is pretty much free if you're going for a Born Gain start, at the end of the day is just -10 Magick. Been doing it for every aspect that's centered around magick without problems lol

[@Liminal_Simulacre]

I think aspect of Pan + Poseidon special is easier to win with 32 fear. The axe is just slow to get going with a 5 minute timer but Pan is really good with just a few boons and the hammers can really make a difference. Vow of rebuke isn't a problem at all with this build and taking vow of desperation to the max saves you a lot of fear points.

[@allahamada8083]

One thing i found to be useful on charon is that u can actually dash mid omega special and keep the same channeling direction ( i think it's a shadow buff) , made the aspect feel a lot safer up close for me

[@allahamada8083]

Also Random tip😅 with giga cleaver u can cast a second time before the second special wave hits benefitting from 2 omega casts per special channel Edit: dan was actually showcasing this in this vid so this was premature lol

[@yadamspiezer]

As a normie player, I have a wildly different vow setup. Prepare to laugh at me. I want 50-75% healing. No vow of desperation. Instead, gimme more enemies. It doesn't make the game harder, it just takes longer. I'll make my first boon in each region an onion. It's annoying, but 3 fewer boons at the end of a run doesn't really matter. I don't want more than 20% damage from foes. I'll take 100% more from the first hit in each encounter (many many ways to deal with this).

[@malikhittam1440]

That right there us the beauty of Hades' difficulty system. I haven't seen any other game pull off a difficulty system that's this flexible and intricate

[@mayholasut8964]

I'm with you on more enemies.

[@Saracen93]

I agree. I think Haelian just doesn’t find it fun to do an extra long run. But many of us don’t find 32 to be fun any way (especially with the current vows) so would rather do revenants and extra enemies, and keep healing just to get that 32 out of the way. Lightning Lance also makes it safer.

[@joedorben3504]

3 fewer boons is huge and can break runs. Especially when often you won't get more than one or two boons outside of shops/Narcissus in Oceanus. 100% more damage on first hit is often what deals the biggest chunk of damage you take in a room

[@Darqion]

In my first failed 32 fear run, i had more enemies per encounter, but some rooms.... were not ready for that amount. especially not with increased enemy speed. you couldnt stand anywhere without being surrounded and attacked.. scary stuff :p

[@Razarex]

2 less primed magic from Born Gain is going to be better than flat 10 primed after only 5 Born Gains, and having just 100 max magic with a --6 Born Gain gives 16 Born Gains. Essentially 30% more total magic being 6 over 8. But any amount of Born Gain is near infinite magic.

[@Globalplayer1102]

Great Guide! I just did 32 with this setup on my second try. I haden't even attempted it before ... Edit: on my first try I ran into the deadline AND ran out of magic at hecate.

[@rushemiiaah2315]

I think they changed something with your summoned creatures, they don't take damage from you anymore, but they take curses xD

[@mau.wagner]

My first time 32 fear actually was with aspect of pan with poseidon spec, definitely my favorite build so far

[@gharn2594]

Same. It was still brutal though. Ended with 48 health, no death defiance, 2 seconds left on the clock and only 16 unprimed magic.

[@osvaldoreynoso5811]

Do you think we go for a different magic regen boon after the born gain nerfs?

[@dinostorion]

You can hex curse the giant hydra mini boss in Oceanus and the Sheep Morph is HUGEEEE

[@johnmarkbristol7426]

haelian do you have a guide like this but for staff aspect? maybe aspect of momus? tnx and great vid always

[@EduardSerbanHritcu]

Thanks for the video, it was quite effective. By the way, can you make a video showing how to get the legendary boons? I tried several times and only got "duo".

[@nevar23]

The second phase of the Chronos fight doesn't count as a new encounter for Mint Condition, right?

[@epicazeroth]

My secret technique is to wait until they put in more Fear options

[@z34567890123456]

Hopefully this curbs the number of “What should I do about X fear” that has to be redirected in Twitch. Feel like 4/5 last vids he’s had someone ask that question (that’s just the ones he’s responded to in KZbin videos specifically). I’m sure he loves talking about the game but getting the same question repeatedly can be irritating.

[@Haelian]

Questions that get repeated a lot help me know what kind of video(s) people need/are looking for!

[@hwb245]

Do you have all aspects at max rank? Or are you using a custom modded save file?

[@gharn2594]

Yes all aspects are max. He downloaded a save file from a speed run site.

[@aarnikka]

I beat it with Aspect of Melinoë Moonstone Axe with only 28 grasp unlocked. I'm a little proud of myself.

[@joedorben3504]

what did you used

[@aarnikka]

@@joedorben3504 I used vow of desperation at 9 minutes, everything else I used were fully activated: vow of arrogance, vow of forsaking, vow of panic, vow of wandering, vow of haunting, vow of commotion, vow of blood, vow of dominance, vow of rebuke and vow of fury. For Arcana Cards I used: Non maxed out: the huntress and the origination, all the other Arcana Cards were maxed out which were: The Sorceress, The Wayward Son, Death, The Messenger, The Titan, The Unseen, Eternity, The Swift Runner, The Centaur, Excellence and Divinity.

[@dantedeloden]

U said that circle attack is unblockable? Try again. As it comes to you face it sideways aka the direction its moving toward you. It will BREAK the entire beam.

[@corey2232]

What does adding Fear do for you besides make it harder?

[@tuhlunksss]

why aren't we using Huntress? i'm not clear on that one... seems like such a good arcana to take!

[@Haelian]

If we're mostly using the omega special, the Huntress does not help. Only boosts regular attack and special damage.

[@NbleSavage]

How much Fear do I need to run before I start gaining Nightmare?

[@gharn2594]

One. It scales up for each weapon individually as you gain Nightmares. You just need to look on the left of the fear panel to see which boss you need to kill with what weapon.

[@adriii_021]

you should ratify born gain

[@gharn2594]

So that's the secret for Charon axe. Get Born Gain. Profit.

[@UlanovMakar]

80 magick but 8 each time is 10 usage of special with giga cleaver 70 magick but 6 each time is 9 but in a long run with more magick its much better so that was an L to not rarify born gain

[@gharn2594]

Nice to see someone doing the maths correctly. Most people just look at it as 2 less magick 5 times equals the 10 primed magick, but don't consider what this actually means for how much use you get out of your abilities. It's interesting that when born gain procs it doesn't overflow. So if you have 5 Magick and use you 45 magick ability you still go up to max (not including the primed magick). Honestly if they want to nerf it then changing that would might be all that's needed.

[@chanlekho]

Is Dual Moonshot no longer viable for 32 fear?

[@joedorben3504]

Anything is viable at 32 but Momus is nowhere near as strong as it was, still might be one of the best Aspect though

[@CoachJohnMcGuirk]

They completely reworked momus aspect, it doesn't give the +damage to special anymore.

[@dodang_9147]

it is viable because poseidon is still strong but it is less safe because radius and Axe is just stronger. it is best aspect atm for fear 32 because you just press special and everything on screen is cleared. His arcana setup might not be most optimal though.. Same for fear 32. 5 minute deadline is really brutal for most players. I think most people will fail 5 min deadline in first region. You're probably better off using Onion, No mana and maybe reducing health gain. Hope you get Hera(Onion)->Hera and not Selene's useless curse starts or unlucky hammer start with 0 mana.

[@Haelian]

I'm sure it's viable but it not has 40% reduced range and no additional Special power from the aspect. No more free wins with it is all.

[@TheBT]

So just saw the start of the video for the set up and got to Chronos first run and didnt get good boon luck so yeah seems good.

[@TheBT]

Though another girl on a local discord had the world record for 32 fear so I'll have to check the build with her too :)

[@nexulul5400]

yo

[@mcTenro]

Hi

[@sen314bot]

You laugh like Seth Rogan.

[@D0verking69]

He seems to have a deep a hatred for climate control