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[@Ballystical]

Thanks for the suggestions below! Updating the tips: 5:24 - Tip #1: God pool maxed at 4 normally, but you can force more gods into the pool. 6:58 - Tip #2: While selecting a boon, you can pause and check your codex for synergies before having to make a choice. 8:25 - Tip #3: Zeus' call is a really good choice overall. 9:58 - Tip #4: Duo boons are rarer than Epic, but Legendary boons are rarer than Duo. 11:24 - Tip #5: Selling a Duo-boon prerequisite will disable the Duo only if the function relies directly on the prerequisite boon. 15:00 - Tip #6: Hammers are overprioritized. If you skip a hammer, you can usually find it later. 2 hammers are offered every run and an extra one can be obtained by the anvil in Styx. 15:30 - Tip #7: Hermes' boons are usually lower rarity. May be worth trying to increase their rarity. 17:46 - Tip #8: You're offered a shop in every biome midway usually along with a miniboss. If you skip the shop, its usually offered another shop before the boss of the biome.. 19:24 - Tip #9: You cannot get Duo boons from Trials (rooms with 2 God boons). 20:00 - Tip #10: Each biome always has the same number of rooms. Tartarus has 12 rooms. Asphodel has 10 rooms. Elysium has 12 rooms. Styx has at least 2 chambers before you can reach a sack. For more tips, watch the rest of the video 😉

[@sleeplesstime]

You won't get the mid-shop back. But you always get a shop before the boss of the biome.

[@darrylsessions1926]

Should also mention that dark foresight will give you more boons

[@segfault_000]

For Tip #5, I another way to state it is that selling a Duo-boon prerequisite will disable the Duo only if the function relies directly on the prereq boon.

[@mumei178]

Duos and Legendaries have the same rarity in the sense that they're rolled at the same time and have the same chance of appearing, but you're just less likely to get legendary prerequisites than you are duo prereqs

[@pumbaa667]

36:38 Try to keep your rerolls for Hermes ('cause you'll see him only twice and he has some great boons) and for the room after bosses (if you enabled Underworld Customs, to not get forced to sell a vital boon)

[@meander112]

I had never realized that you can't get duo boons from trial rooms & did not b know what determined Meg's path. Thanks!

[@squishybugs2424]

What determines Meg’s path?

[@illdan6045]

@@squishybugs2424 zagreus direction

[@meander112]

@@squishybugs2424 Apparently, Meg's path is perpendicular to the direction Zag faces.

[@pumbaa667]

Dayum, I just cleared my 666th run (not even a joke ^^), watched half your YT content, follow you on Twitch.... and I still learnt 3 important thing in this video. Like the i-frame on call or when to Meg' Tony. Thanks A LOT for taking so much of your time to share your invaluable knowledge.

[@amanofnoreputation2164]

The lesson: duos and legendaries aren't that rare in terms of RNG, it's just that they're gated behind other boons, so the point is what specific boons you have, particularly early on in the run. That's what sets you up.

[@PolandSphere]

"New players love trials" As a new player, I got a trial that was between Aphrodite and another god, and it was my first time ever seeing a trial. I thought "oh hey, 2 boons, sick" and I went into that room. I then proceeded to have one of my first ever runs ended almost instantly because the Aphrodite trial wrecked me. I have taken maybe 1 trial after that in the 35 hours I've played since. I now have a deep fear instilled in me that makes me never take trials, and I disagree with the above statement.

[@Avendesora]

Once I learned which gods have easy trials I started to love them. Constantly picking other gods over Artemis because she's the easiest to fight gives you some really fun voice lines eventually, too

[@BFedie518]

Aphrodite is a tricky one. It seems easy because it's just one projectile, but it's easy to lose track of it. Artemis, Ares, and Dionysus are easier.

[@rubye4022]

Yeah I'm with you on that homie. When I was a new player I got to a trial and didn't know the gods decided to give Zag a heaping helping of SMITE for not choosing them. If memory serves I got either Zeus or Ares fighting me. In Asphodel. With either the shield shades or butterfly balls. Potentially both. Suffice to say no, I never had fun with trials as a beginner. It wasn't until near end game I started to go into them, more prepared for a fight.

[@nehemiahcamiling6927]

My first trial I remember vividly that i picked a trial of dionysus and used his aid/call against him and instantly unlocked the achievement which is hilarious to me at the time 😂

[@shn4449]

RIP Aphrodite is one of the hardest trials. If I see Athena, Artemis or Dionysus, I take the trial room. Those gods are easy.

[@PurushaDesa]

Yeah as my first roguelike/roguelite, I wish someone had actually explained to me what a "build" was! 😂 Specifically though I wish the game had made it clear that you're only supposed to have 4 gods because before that I was just filling up those slots and getting nowhere.

[@SteveMcKeon]

My favourite of your videos so far. Extremely useful.

[@shock9616]

I think this video will be super helpful. I didn't realize that in this game it's good to focus on a specific aspect of your kit for a build, I'm coming from Risk of Rain 2 as my first roguelike and in that game it's pretty important to have items balanced between most of your stats to get good runs. I also have never used the codex once so that'll definitely help with planning a build 😅

[@MoonMarshmallow]

37:14 i used spearpoint for a bit when i first got to styx as a sort of training wheel for the satyr poison since it'll give you plenty of time to find/get to the fountain without taking any damage since the stinger will proc it. thats about all its good for i feel

[@Serzari]

I find the Spearpoint best for preventing those random 200 damage catastrophes, like Dire Gigantic Vermin filling the entire room with poison, or a jury summons end room of all Snakestones where your keyboard controls dash gets stuck on level geometry. If Hades does his room filling lasers right next to a pillar and the beams glitch through it, the Spearpoint will also limit the frustration there. I consider it the compounding BS insurance keepsake

[@segfault_000]

Also nice for when you're learning to deal with Hades' beam. If I have all DDs going into Styx I almost always take Spearpoint just for QoL in the tunnels, though.

[@teejay1646]

It's probably the best thing you can bring to the Hades fight. It stops that obnoxious laser attack from stunlocking you

[@Jacobus666]

I've played Hades for a long time and watched a lot of your videos, i considered myself pretty knowledgeable of the game. But this was honestly super helpful, i learned a lot! Thanks! I do have a question though, you didn't choose to fill up the cast slot the entire run. Wouldn't it be better to fill it up so you won't get offered cast boons any more, therefore increasing the chance of getting boons that could be beneficial? Also, i think it would be a great idea to do this kind of video with different builds :)

[@Haelian]

Generally not worth filling slots unless there's absolutely nothing else useful.

[@MrMister5555]

I just got into Hades a little over a week ago and using the advice in this video just got me a 4 win streak with 4 different weapons! Thanks! Update, I continued playing the next day and continuing from my 4 win streak got a 10 win streak before I lost on the 11th, but seriously thank you! Your tips, tricks, and overall game experience has improved my own skill and gameplay decisions at a very fast pace! :D

[@MrBlack-hp5id]

me watching him get 2 duo boons he wanted in tartarus meanwhile im on my 15th hades fight with no merciful end.

[@Respectable_Username]

Watching you play this after having recently only just managed to beat Hades the first few times feels like watching you play on fast forward! My mortal mind can't comprehend how you do it. Maybe I'll pick up enough ideas from these videos to keep me slogging through the end enough times to finish out the story!

[@BigBadBalrog]

I fell off the Hael wagon for a while, but damn he's been hitting it hard on the Tube lately Edit: Holy shit, our mans is closing in on 100k!

[@icorruptoid]

This video is the most helpful Hades video on youtube! Thank you!

[@AgtWashingtub]

I love how ALL of the bad luck manifested itself on trying to hit a gold pot.

[@MrMisc111]

Great video, a lot of things I didn't know and I've been playing for a while

[@aidansnyder422]

Very insightful, thank you

[@Minijote]

Very informative. Thank you!

[@deadlywolf6110]

The best build I ever made was an Ares cast build, with the Artemis duo boon to make it track. It absolutely MELTED bosses. Most fun I ever had on a run

[@mopozuJIko]

Very helpful! Thanks a lot!

[@amoran2013]

amazing video, would have liked some input on when its best to "fill up slots" even tho you dont really use the abillity

[@Haelian]

Not very common, probably only if there's nothing else from the god that you want and getting a core boon from them won't mess with what duos you're looking for.

[@DL_fitness]

I barely coment or like youtube videos… but this video is full of small thing that i disnt know and i consider myself good at hades… this tips are very very very usefull… Im exited to finish job tomorow and run hades with this tips… Ty and i hope u give us tips like this in hades 2

[@Alessandro_deBellegarde]

Would it be possible to elaborate more on your aversion to the Pom Blossom? I appreciate that it doesn’t assist the process of tailoring a pre-intended build but if you lean into cultivating synergy in your build based on what the run provides wouldn’t the Pom Blossom provide overall more spec increase across the board? Do you feel that high heat runs necessitate chasing specific builds or do you believe that any build can bring you to the finish line if performed appropriately? Love your content Haelian, can’t wait to see your takes on Hades 2!

[@Haelian]

In a typical run, it's only worth pomming a couple of your boons. You'll often get to do this naturally as you go and pomming most things beyond level 3 or 4 is usually overkill because of the diminishing returns. Given that you can't control what the keepsake hits, it's usually just not as good as some other aggressive keepsakes like Bone Hourglass or Hades' keepsake. What do you consider high heat? It's definitely possible to clear consistently without specific builds at 32 heat. Not so much when you get to 50+.

[@Alessandro_deBellegarde]

@@Haelian thanks for the feedback! 🙏 I’ve been slowly trying to scale up with each weapon along their next necessary Heat levels getting me into the 20s for each weapon so I still need to dive into more challenging runs above 30. I’ve been an avid believer in the Pom Blossom up to this point as a way to target a limited set of boons. I’ve been having fun with letting the game feed me which boons “it chooses” to throw my way and then trying to adapt my approach around a strong but limited batch of formative boons near the beginning of a run. However, I’m trying to learn some of the broader approaches to tailoring specific builds since I fear that my Pom approach may not always provide the necessary DPS once I push beyond the 30s+. You mentioned it’s a “win more” trinket, can you elaborate on that? At first I wasn’t sure if you were affirming the Pom Blossom or not. Thanks again for your time 🙇

[@Haelian]

@@Alessandro_deBellegarde Win more usually means that the item is not actually necessary to win and that you'd only use it when you potentially already have the conditions you need to win.

[@Alessandro_deBellegarde]

@@Haelian thanks for the guidance! 🙏 Best wishes!

[@rfspinho]

I swear I was gonna make a comment asking for this in your 54 heat run, thanks Haelian!

[@LazyOnTheLine]

Ok first thing I see here is that you use my favourite aspect in the game and... I didn't know Dionysus is good with it :D Already a very useful video, thanks!

[@Kevfactor]

What do you suggest if your main damage dealer to your build is common? Skip or press Luck in the future that it might drop

[@Haelian]

Just really depends on so many factors. Majority of the time you probably just take the common boon.

[@Zecuto]

An extremely helpful video!

[@zachariahosterman2639]

No bullshit I got my first escape after watching this. Thanks lol

[@brettpardue8786]

Hangover is one of the strongest effects in the game. Anytime I pick up a hangover boon then it's a guaranteed win lol. It can literally destroy stuff faster than jolted, doom and all the other effects as long as you have a weapon that can stack it fast.

[@ryanwalter5675]

I've always used Than's companion because it's highest damage output, but now I'm thinking maybe Meg is the way to go. Meg's seems faster and less chance of getting screwed on the delay from Than. Are there other things to consider when starting to use Meg?

[@tylerbrooks6063]

Jeeeeeesus. The 15 minute run. I'm like 100+ runs in and haven't gotten sub 16 yet and he was barely even trying here! Insane.

[@ThePrimeMinisterOfTheBlock]

Thanks mate, I picked up more than a few advanced tips from this vid

[@magusto627]

Can anyone explain the basics around hangover, +3 base damage and Jolt damage? I am new to this

[@BradSamuelsPro]

I take the anvil like 80% of the time. The only time I wouldn't take it is if I already have the two best hammers for my aspect. It's just fun

[@tuckfong9712]

Thank you!

[@notfunnydidntlaugh5270]

Dionysus has the best duo boons out of any god Ares amplifies hangover dmg by around 43% Aphrodite increases max hangover dmg by 60% Artemis can increase crit chance by 7.5% (12% with weak tolerance) Poseidon guarantees epic boons for the rest of the run Athena halves the speed of all projectiles And I guess Zeus and Demeter also do something

[@aryangalani3202]

Love the vid already

[@thuaphong2704]

Zeus still doesnt work on special right ?

[@KingJerbear]

I have a question... if I skip a hammer room to take a God I need... will I get that hammer again? Or is it usually just 2 appearances and that's it? edit: Literally the second I pushed send he came across this exact situation and answered my question lol. (Hammer will appear again for anyone that missed it) Really awesome video!

[@h2kfrosty988]

Yeah if you need chaos but also need hammer take chaos first cuz he won’t appear again

[@gloop7384]

tbh my clear rate went waay down (from streak 10, usually w/o using dd to even bet of even getting to hades) after I started aiming for duos and builds instead of just taking what seemed good in the moment, as many boons as possible and not even knowing about the god pool. I suppose it's another learning curve...

[@MrRaui]

So how does Heroic rarity fit in exactly? Lower chances than Epic rarity but not as rare as legendary boons?

[@MilesNorton-zc2tu]

Heroics should be stronger than epics (incase of both same level and therefore more rare), but lower rarity than legendary

[@Mekkkah]

You can't be offered a Heroic rarity unless it's an exchange for an Epic boon you already have. There's some other ways to get Heroic boons listed on the Wiki, but most boons you'll see offered will be Common/Rare/Epic.

[@Haelian]

This

[@SecureGM]

Why not hell mode? I thought it's the way to enjoy late game Hades, or was it not available back then, when the video was recorded?

[@Haelian]

You'd have to start a whole new save to play Hell Mode and all you get is 1 exclusive Pact of Punishment. Otherwise you can play the same exact way.

[@LordBirg]

I was wondering, does it make sense to keep the same god keepsake when moving from one biome to another? Does the keepsake still have an effect then?

[@Haelian]

It'll increase the rarity of their boons if you get them but it doesn't renew the effect of guaranteeing them, so it's very rarely worth it.

[@l.n.3372]

I've always seen people recommend Artemis special on Chiron bow for the extra crit on the special. How does a newer player know which type of boon to add on something? For example, some boons deal curse/status while others do not.

[@Mekkkah]

Fast-hitting, low damage: Zeus, Dio (they apply some kind of effect every time you hit the enemy) Slow-hitting, high damage: Demeter, Athena, Artemis, Aphrodite, Poseidon ("percentage based", increase damage per hit by a %) For the curses, if you're using privileged status, you'll want 2 of Dio, Demeter, Aphro or Ares on your attack, special or cast depending on what's easiest to spam and apply to enemies. Usually one on the attack and the other on special will do fine. The other gods have some kind of curse too, but they're a little harder to get since you have to get a core boon first before the status boon is offered, whereas for the 4 I named they'll be on their initial boon (attack, special, cast, etc). That said if you are offered a curse for the god you're using most of the time, it's almost always worth taking the boon for it, e.g. Hunter's Mark from Artemis, Statis Discharge from Zeus and Razor Shoals from Poseidon. The Exposed one from Athena is fine too but I don't find that one as useful.

[@l.n.3372]

@@Mekkkah Wait what! Mekkah? The FE KZbinr is a fan of Hades content? Thanks for the clarification re: status effects. What about Ares in terms of fast or slow hitting?

[@mrrd4444]

Trial and error :) though a good rule of thumb is putting damage over time status effects (Zeus, Dio, Ares Doom) on anything that hits fast and often. However for the highest damage you'll want to go for crits with Artemis or damage that scales high like Aphrodite.

[@Mekkkah]

@@l.n.3372 yeah, Hades good. I streamed it a couple times! Ares's doom is awkward to fit into either category because it doesn't stack by default (unlike Dio) but it also doesn't give a % damage increase. You can make it sort of stack with Dire Misfortune, but I believe that doesn't let you actually stack doom damage, just adds a little bonus if you do apply it multiple times. So if you have an Attack Doom that does 100, and then you get Dire Misfortune which is usually like, +10 for every doom stack off the top of my head, you wouldn't get 100 for every time you applied Doom. Instead you'd get 100, 110, 120, 130, etc. At least that's how I believe it is. Another problem with Ares is that doom damage takes a while to apply and doesn't inhibit enemies (like make them slower or anything like that) so enemies will often stay alive longer to attack you. That's kinda bad. Doesn't mean Ares is not viable at all though. I got my first clear by putting Ares on the Zag Shield Special and just throwing it against enemies over and over while camping. I also got my first 32 heat clear with the Aspect of Chaos, again putting Doom on the Special. Doom is great when you can spread it around a lot of enemies quickly, while keeping yourself safe. Outside of those cases though, I'm personally not a big fan of being forced to walk into a room with Ares's logo on it. My first thought is usually "well, I guess I need something to sell for Underworld Customs". And I sort of like his call because it grants temporary invincibility.

[@Mekkkah]

@@l.n.3372 also there's still advantages to mixing up the fast and slow hitting aspects with different gods. for example if you put Demeter on a fast hitting aspect, you can apply stacks of freeze very quickly and slow enemies down.

[@Litepaw]

I'm listening to this while grinding the rewards from lower heat levels, and lmao. Just as you said you got two duo boons in tartarus, I got two legendary boons in Tartarus for a throwaway run 😂 First time trying Beowulf and I got Athena and Zeus as my first two rooms, got Athena's Dash and Zeus special. Next was ⚡/🔆 trial of the gods, got Brilliant Riposte and Double Strike. Got 🔸Divine Protection from the next Athena room, and 🔸Splitting Bolt from a Zeus ball in Charon's shop 😂 Where is this kinda luck on an actual run??

[@shinigamimiroku3723]

I really wish we could roll the hammers; like you said, a hammer upgrade are often kinda meh, or can even be a hindrance...

[@yatishyanamala2294]

Then no innovation would be done, and fated persuasion>>>(how r u persuading a dead shade's hammer tho?)

[@shinigamimiroku3723]

@@yatishyanamala2294 Fair, but I already deal with plenty of RNG from all the JRPGs I play (especially Fire Emblem), so it might be nice to not have to deal with it quite so much in other genres). ^_^;

[@mattyb1607]

Hangover can be really powerful with Rama

[@Njordin2010]

Very helpful vid

[@pitayah3781]

Why did you have to sell jolted around the 24 min mark? Earlier you mentioned it was important, but i did not get why

[@Haelian]

Underworld Customs pact of punishment.

[@AlexStinson]

Why are you using the special just next to the objective. You approach to shoot them, but doesn’t it work better whe you have the distance to let the arrows fly? I just play with Chiron because I am sooooooo bad with melee weapons ^^

[@jf2849]

I’ve never made it far enough to unlock reroll

[@Sctn187]

I cant put a run together he runs through it like a mathematician

[@Dmobley9901]

How to make a build in Hades: Get two duo boons before the first boss. Not even throwing shade, that's just genuine insanity to me. Then again I have never played on a maxed out save before-

[@arcchidusc7204]

Good tips

[@Twizzler300]

Lightning, doom build is goated. AoE and high (delayed) burst

[@Gor342]

So making a build is just focused on the duo boons??

[@Haelian]

In a sense yes but they don't have to be. Typically you're focused on one area: attack, special or cast and then you aim for duo boons to supplement that area.

[@zenyzs]

What is the codex’s

[@Haelian]

It's a tool that Achilles gives you early on that lets you look at information about Boons, characters and items.

[@ZaItan1]

@1:33 if only we could skip boons/room rewards like in Slay the Spire 😭

[@liamgrieve5849]

argument for spearpoint, it lets me damage tank

[@animeuniteremix4292]

This is the build i used to beat 32 heat

[@adriansouto3441]

firts video of you ever

[@fyorafafallia]

Cuddling the grandpa cat😅

[@CAPTAINCHAOS_]

Yes. Assuming you have maxed out a lot of the game. Which is hard to without getting the strong boons. Which are highly RNG at low level…. So it’s still an RNG game. AND I LOVE IT.

[@konstantinivanov1717]

"Side Hustle is bait" Me who loves it and always gets it: :(

[@marcoscerqueira3324]

Hi is he plaing with any mods ?

[@Haelian]

Nope, I will say if I am at the beginning of each video.

[@marcoscerqueira3324]

@@Haelian thanks!!!!

[@calmdown9094]

nice video. youre very large brain

[@diegocj02]

For Styx, choosing a miniboss door and a normal door in that order most of the time (like 90%) gives you the sack

[@Haelian]

No it does not, it's a 56% chance to get it on the second path. What the reward is does not matter.

[@diegocj02]

@@Haelian Oh well, that means i were very lucky through most of my runs. I found the most success doing that

[@itscamabis]

;)

[@QuantumKatmusic]

The more i play this game, the more i watch people play it, the more confused i get . Sooo..if you pick epic boons, they cant become duo boon opportunities later? No that sounds weird , how do you even get duo boons, how do you... Who am i?

[@Haelian]

The codex tells you what you need to get duo boons. The rarities do not matter. There are typically 2 prerequisite boons before a duo boon can possibly be offered but it's not guaranteed.

[@Kookycookie979]

cat

[@JT-wn1kj]

I legit stopped watching after about 10 minutes because I didn't even understand the words you were saying. lol. I haven't beaten Hades once yet, so everything you said went soooooo far over my head....:(

[@Haelian]

Sorry to hear that, it's probably for the best for you to experience the game a bit more before you dive into this stuff.

[@JZuCuadra]

Wait, am I about to do the ultimate cringe? Yes, yes I am. First.

[@Dedmos2322]

nah its fine bro