Hagmann Valve Comparison

The next video in our valve comparison series, talking about the Swiss-built Hagmann valve and comparing a Bach 42A with it's Bach 42BO standard rotor counterpart. Feel free to leave your comments on these valves below!

[@duncanmac1313]

you see this is why the channel is great! I didn't know about that valve a lot, but I now have the information to go and try out this valve in store and see if it works for me! so thank you very much!

[@Jason-kx3cd]

I love the Hagmann Valve.

[@aasavickas]

Ewazen is great stuff. Fun and tricky. I'm trying out new bass trombones and was sure if you already did a video on it. and here we are. Thanks for the video.

[@SchmittMusicTromboneShop]

You got it! As an aside, if we can help with trying out bass trombones let me know; we have a good selection of pro and custom basses at the moment :)

[@GamerTime_2002]

did you get a new audio system, the quality sounds much better

[@SchmittMusicTromboneShop]

We did indeed add a new microphone to the videos around this time. Thanks for noticing!

[@bassbonemexie]

my favorites are greenhoe, hagmann, thayer then rotor. The worst i've tried personally is axial.

[@davidtatro7457]

Thayer is axial.

[@showingYOUtheworld]

As a professional musician and trombonist my experience with Hagmann is as follows: They are open, but they are too open. That means, that ,,you" have less and more difficult control over your air flow. The upgraded rotor valves like Rotax, Tru-bore and etc.are giving you more resistance than valves like Hagmann, but in the same time it's more easy to control your air flow and they are open enough to give you a nice and natural open sound so at the end you will have advantages from the both worlds. One more thing: Hagmann collects A LOT of water and they need to be oiled every 4 days. At the end my personal advice before buying a trombone equipped with Hagmann valve/s is to read as much as possible about the disadvantages of that type of trombone valves. P.S. Everything was just my personal opinion and sorry for my bad english 😋

[@kris-yp6yj]

I wanna buy a new trombone, and I am looking the Centennial model and the Bach 42 Hagmann valve. They have different valves, so I want to know your opinion about those... What model did you buy?

[@SchmittMusicTromboneShop]

As you mention the Centennial with it's Meinl-Schmidt Open Flow valve and the 42A with it's Hagmann are very different beasts; it would depend a lot on your approach to playing. The Open Flow valve for me is more efficient with a smaller, slower airstream; it also responds a bit quicker and has a bit more compact lightness and color to the sound. Paired up with a 42 handslide it can be a great solo and ensemble instrument for the right player; with a 50 handslide it is a legitimate pro orchestral horn. The 42A with Hagmann is going to have a more open feel, with a slightly broader, more deliberate response and wider sound; I just played the two of them back to back to remind myself of how they both play and for me the Hagmann felt a bit more secure, with the notes locking in place easier. What trombone are you currently playing and what type of playing are you looking at doing?

[@kris-yp6yj]

@@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Thanks to answer my question, I play a Jupiter for 1200 dollars aprox... I want to be a professional trombonist and for that I am looking for good horns. The Hagmann is 400 dollars more than the centennial on my music shop, and you recommend me the Hagmann so I think I get it. Other option its an Edwards but it's so much expensive and I don't have enough money. Definitely for you is more good the Hagmann 42, true?

[@yelenacruz7807]

What is the name of the piece that is played in the video? please let me know and thank you for the help.

[@SchmittMusicTromboneShop]

It is the Ewazen Sonata for Trombone and Piano, his Concerto No. 1 for trombone; a true classic in our literature!