When a Murderer Thinks he Outsmarted the Police: Case of Hope Parks

[@Momofukudoodoowindu]

The lady in the beginning, "I'm going to pull over and I'm going to stay with you." Because the other woman was freaking out. I love that. ♡

[@zowwycafe]

honestly, if it was me i'd prefer to be left alone. even though that lady was obviously harmless, i'd be scared to be with anyone alone after finding a decapitated corpse

[@elisabethw.9465]

Babes you’re so much better than a better help sponsorship. Love you and your videos. I really hope you’ll take some time to look into the issues with the company. It’s been really damaging to some people.

[@lollystar24]

Glad I'm not alone in not liking today's sponsor! Edit: I've gone back through the videos, betterhelp sponsored another video back in August last year so that's me out, unsubscribed. I cant support this since it's a continuing sponsor not a one off.

[@ciqured8525]

THANK U SM literally why are all these creators taking the sponsorship it makes me so mad

[@Ren2736]

she did the sponsorship, so clearly she's not "better" than this. she only cares about the money and not her base, clearly. Everyone knows at this point that betterhelp is exploitative.

[@piscesmoon6333]

i posted a comment just like this one before i saw it! maybe us all commenting about it will cause hailey to look into it all more

[@Ava-rb4cn]

@@Ren2736accountability. Love this

[@rex_ink]

Hey Hailey, look into better help Even after just a few minutes of research you'll find out how much of a scam it is and how it has negatively affected and harmed countless people

[@astralyns]

Thank u i was going to use better help but not anymore

[@AryannaKay]

100%

[@carolgannon2307]

I just commented too. I can't believe she hasn't heard the bad stuff yet. I'm a little disappointed!!

[@honeysuckle9830]

Viewers can do the same thing. It’s called taking responsibility for your own self and purchases and not blaming others like Hailey for such, but I know, it’s a crazy concept for ppl to grasp these days.

[@starry_marz]

I was coming to the comments to say this, I've seen many testimonials of people being scammed via Better Help

[@Arimamiraa]

Imagine finding the body, that must have been a horrible traumatic experience. You can really hear the shock in the woman’s voice.

[@Kdkdleeme]

That’s crazy and the fact another lady pulled up to ask if she was okay and tried to talk her down before she also realized what it was What a wild first encounter in a horrible circumstance 🙁

[@zowy98933]

I know right. Like wow just had to be traumatic for sure.

[@jennifercoolidgeislife6760]

Idk why I feel like he didn’t mean to leave her on there but he was ina rush or something.

[@kphoria1009]

yeah it makes my stomach churn to think about

[@brittnibickford2199]

The trembling and concern in her voice literally made my heart shatter. I hope they are healing 🥺

[@wallie564]

Thank you for all the comments on better help, its a scam and more people have the right to know!

[@fillinggaps1975]

It is not a scam and people have the right to not be misinformed by all of you saying that it is a scam.

[@christina8866]

that’s not the point of the video though. who cares about what the sponsorship is, focus on the victims and their story!!!

[@sora1498]

im ngl... its a bit disrespectful to the victim if ur more focused on a sponsor u literally dont need to interact with over the literal case. while its cool to point it out, the fact nobody cares about the case and only about a stupid sponsor is really depressing and its kinda disgusting. really hypocritical

[@lilnickygirl]

@@fillinggaps1975If you do any amount of research like I just did, you will realize you’re misinformed. People who are mentally struggling already feel like they have no where to go, & with the convenience of an app & a therapist without looking around , that clears up that issue. However, the therapists aren’t always fully licensed, some of them are pervs, some of them don’t even help you but rather take your money. Like no thanks. Inform yourself please.

[@lilnickygirl]

@@sora1498well we have a mental health crisis on our hands at this day in time. I respect the case, but I also respect the health & well being of those are still with us today :) because it’s very well they might not be tomorrow. Or, in how many cases have we seen before, if there was adequate mental health help for that person, their victim(s) would still be alive. Come on. Do better. Use your brain.

[@actually_anti_social_4935]

Love haileys fan base holding her accountable, it’s really refreshing to see. Edit: I am in no way trying to take away from the story being told. I was simply proud of the fan base looking out for each other. As someone who had no idea about the allegations made to the company the comments on the vid actually helped inform me 😅 mental health is extremely important so make sure you guys are being careful with these companies and who you trust❤ let’s keep this community a safe and comfortable place

[@fillinggaps1975]

Really, the fanbase is misinformed, is what it is.

[@dreamkitty]

they’ll get over it

[@hubabaloop]

Agreed

[@christina8866]

honestly i wouldn’t call it that, people just see others talking about something and feel the need to add to it as well. i think it’s sort of dumb that the comments are filled solely with people complaining about the betterhelp sponsorship. like yes it was in bad taste but did you watch the video at all? the sponsorship doesn’t matter, somebody was brutally murdered and they deserve to have their story told and remembered, not a bunch of people missing the point and complaining about a sponsorship.

[@dreamkitty]

@@christina8866 literally. they think their better than haley for calling out a sponsorship but disregarded this woman’s story. people are so weird and backwards 🤣

[@bagarozzi927]

I can't believe he gave them permission to search the house when her head was there it's absolutely insane

[@christina8866]

cannot comprehend what he thought was going to happen. in a state of denial i suppose

[@briansullivan5908]

People do stupid stuff like that all the time. They freely give DNA samples too. Nobody thinks they will get caught or they are just stupid.

[@lindseyhendrix2405]

Wow. That 911 call is truly something. The almost instant flip of the driver’s demeanour from being certain it was a deer to how shaken up her voice was after double checking just tells you how horrifying and ungodly this (or any murder at that) was. And the wildest part is that it essentially happens in almost every death - someone has to stumble upon them and to hear that in real time was just really striking. I can’t even begin to imagine happening to me. I mean who does?! That woman certainly didn’t! But the fact that she was concerned & caring enough to stop and check on a stranger to begin with and then immediately state she’s going to stay there with her during this really reestablishes my hope in people.

[@bekahsierra7313]

He absolutely humiliated that woman in death. There’s nothing accidental about what he did to her body. I hope her son is getting help.

[@Maadthreads]

The fact that influencers are still taking better help sponsorships after how many negative things have been revealed about the company is extremely disappointing. This company has caused so much trauma and harm to so many users that have been taken advantage of by influencers. So disappointing from Haley.

[@elianadavis2266]

She probably didn’t know :)

[@Maadthreads]

@@elianadavis2266​ even if she isn’t aware, as an influencer, that in itself is concerning. Influencers have a responsibility to research the companies in which they are taking sponsorships from. ESPECIALLY when it comes to the mental health and well-being of their followers, it becomes even more crucial to do your research. So yeah, she is responsible whether she knows or not. It takes one quick search. I have never taken a sponsorship without researching the company beforehand, and I barely have a following. Her responsibility is huge here. Hundreds of thousands of people mental health is at risk.

[@johanabi]

Probably, but it’s an influencer’s responsibility to look into the products and services they are hired to sell to their viewers, especially when the influencer has a younger audience.

[@Maadthreads]

@@johanabiabsolutely spot on!

[@elianadavis2266]

@@johanabi yes I understand but the allegations have been circulating in the masses like these past few days whereas she has been sponsored by them for a while, prior to what’s been happening so she wouldn’t have researched them recently. I understand that but she’s not a bad person for this if anything she just thought she was helping those with mental health problems.

[@heezypeasy8611]

Hailey. Please research the issues with Better Help. Many creators have stopped working with them and made videos about them being extremely problematic.

[@kyliem201]

!!

[@naivenostalgia]

Wow, this is my first time hearing about this. I'll have to look them up as well.

[@rickietasina7119]

Was just coming here to comment something similar! Better help is not what it seems unfortunately.

[@heezypeasy8611]

@@naivenostalgia Yeah LOTS of ppl have hard horrible experiences

[@hayquesonar2896]

they pay her good $$$ she won't stop using them... better help destroyed me

[@cyrbstomp]

Crazy about the amount of better help comments, its very nice to see people are speaking so loudly about a crappy company

[@fillinggaps1975]

It's disheartening to see so many people talking ignorantly and spreading misinformation due to that.

[@violetpencil9614]

@@fillinggaps1975 I cannot tell if you are complaining about the people who are talking about BetterHelp or the people promoting it

[@fillinggaps1975]

@@violetpencil9614 the people talking about it

[@christina8866]

it’s actually quite disheartening to see people missing the point of the video and focusing so much on the sponsorship instead but go off

[@violetpencil9614]

@@christina8866 To be fair, this particular true crime videos kind of cut and dry. This guy is complete psycho with little to no empathy and is a terrible liar. Who in their right mind so lazily cleans up a crime scene like that like listen even an innocent person who thinks they’re about to be arrested will try to clean up a little bit better. This man is the definition of idiotic narcissist. I understand why people are more concerned by the better life sponsorship because if they believe this is a harmful site for mentally ill people to go to and well if you look at the demographic of this type of videos it is a lot of people who are neurodivergent, but yeah it’s a bit concerning and seems like a bit of a necessary thing to talk about

[@molli9292]

hi hailey please do some research about better help!! their SUPER problematic and many real therapists have so many videos about them, please take the time to look into it, much love❤️❤️

[@recluseren]

When the police asked if she had any problems with drugs or alcohol, and he said "no she's just very controlling"... I'm curious if he interpreted the question as "did she have any problems with /other people/ (him) using drugs or alcohol?" makes more sense why he would answer that way. Like, "no, she doesn't care about drugs or alcohol, but other stuff in my life she's very controlling over"

[@naivenostalgia]

Ya know, I think you're on to something there. That would make way more sense.

[@paulafont-cruz3395]

this makes a LOT of sense

[@bornn2die]

i was thinking the same thing

[@sharyebethancourt3660]

@@paulafont-cruz3395 that’s all that makes sense, cuz otherwise it’s like a bad edit in a movie lol

[@bvaldez7604]

I was thining that he interpreted it as being asked what his motive was but this actually makes way more sense

[@diannaherrera3768]

As soon as he gave that stupid ultimatum I figured he had something to do with it. How are you going to make your caring wife choose between her husband or her son??? And if it was an accident, why didn't he call the police for help??? And why decapitate her head??? That's the part that really convinces me that he did it intentionally

[@christina8866]

exactly! i think he should’ve been treated much worse in the case and as far more of a suspect than he was, clearly he is guilty

[@TheOceanGuard]

my only guess for decapitating her was to hide the bullet wound/how she died which would have been somewhat smart except he kept the head in his friggin house

[@spencer6225]

Came to the comments to mention better help and all of their down sides. Happy to see that everyone else is also well informed on this

[@gayliljaehyun]

when somebody starts a 911 call for a missing person with “we got into an argument” and not “they’re missing” they probably did it lol

[@piscesmoon6333]

i love you and your channel so much…..i hope you look into the better help “therapists” and their situation in general bcuz it’s actually doing ppl more harm than good at this point. but tysm for the great content as usual!

[@fillinggaps1975]

Or you could look into it instead of spreading misinformation.

[@mutterbuffin6916]

Lol dude they did. It's why people are calling out Better help, because they're shady

[@mutterbuffin6916]

​@@fillinggaps1975 you've commented on nearly every person who called out betterhelp. Either a troll or you work for them. Lol

[@lealeapants9011]

​@@fillinggaps1975I used them and it was so hard that when I mentioned an ex I have a restraining order on the therapist wouldn't let up on whether he would come after me or not for almost four sessions and in between sessions that I had a panic attack and ended up getting my card locked because I used shady websites to try and find his location to make sure he was nowhere near me. When I told her about this she said it was a good idea to be safe and all of my friends had to help me close the account cause I was so anxious. They overcharged me for almost every session and it caused a ton of issues with my bank and every session over their app would be disconnected halfway through and I'd have to pay for another session just to finish. It's all bullshit. They are horrible

[@olga1231]

the detective isn't trying to help he is making sure micheal can't go to those excuses later because he already confessed it wasn't those things

[@Kaidelarosa0]

Yeah when she said that, in my head I was thinking “what interest would the detective have in trying to help him??” I like hailey’s videos but I notice sometimes she misses the mark in her interpretations and/or seemingly doesn’t have enough thorough research

[@MizanSelas]

Not only they he’s trying to get Michael to admit to it it’s very common with investigators because the won’t allow him to use anger as a defense but if he admits to killing her in a rage they have a confession. It’s kind of basic criminology which is very important to know if you’re going to present true crime cases

[@MizanSelas]

@@Kaidelarosa0 agreed I haven’t watched her in months because if something like that in a case that I had to stop watching

[@kphoria1009]

@@Kaidelarosa0 i don’t think that’s her fault though honestly, she’s just retelling it, she’s not a criminologist

[@Kaidelarosa0]

@@kphoria1009 Right, I’m not saying she needs to be a criminologist or trying to necessarily put a fault on her, I’m more just giving what I think is good constructive feedback. Misinterpreting information can potentially change a whole story and narrative. I saw a few comments on this vid saying “why would the police try to help him?? That’s so disgusting! “(paraphrasing), when that’s not what the police were trying to do. I’m just saying she should be a little more diligent or else false narratives or misinformation could be spread. And if one is going to make true crime content, I don’t think it’s a bad idea to try to learn about the police tactics in a case they’re covering just so they could get a better understanding of the story and deliver more accurate info!

[@cheetodust745]

Better help is AWFUL I signed up and my “therapist” gave me 2 short 15 minutes sessions when I paid for hour long sessions. She told me to get a new hobby for my depression and to clean my bedroom😂

[@lexir4513]

i mean it would help… lol it’s shitty that they didn’t give you the right amount of time but a big part in mental health recovery is breaking out of those ruts and starting to engage more in life. not the only solution but for a first session, it’s not a bad suggestion.

[@mausilw]

Damn somebody told you to improve your environment and do things that make you happy to help with depression? The audacity.

[@fillinggaps1975]

Find a new therapist. You can switch on a dime on BH. Did you even hear her ad read? Lol.

[@dreamkitty]

but did you do it? seems like you’re laughing at genuine advice that helps people going through depression which is SICK.

[@dreamkitty]

@@mausilwright? how dare her therapist give her real advice? report her to the board immediately.

[@GracieChats]

Please look into Better Help. They have a lot of issues and are very problematic to those seeking help. Thanks for another video (:

[@fillinggaps1975]

Sighhhhh......

[@rairwqy]

Imo I hold her accountable since she should had did more research on it

[@haileebear569]

Better help isn't a good place to reach out for mental health help :(

[@verity1mckeon]

Watch Mickey Atkins’ videos on better help if they haven’t been taken down yet, I think she does one reacting to peoples TikTok’s about it

[@skyemccready]

Hailey I love you but please stop sponsoring better help they are a scam

[@kelseylong1222]

please look into better help and how terrible they are. don’t promote them. they are making it worse for so many people.

[@JasmineNJessica123]

Betterhelp told me they could not provide me a therapist bc I was basically too mentally ill for them to help me. They turn down A LOT of ppl who really need the help.

[@Bleghbasaur]

From this small little town, and this was the biggest case we’ve had in ages. It shook the community to the core. We all grew up with Jon.

[@Kensiemaurine]

I love watching your videos but am extremely disappointed that you’re still taking the better help sponsorships I understand you need payment for the content. But better help is not it the sheer amount of people they have conned, retraumatized etc

[@Natahliamccann]

hi girl, please don’t sponsor better help, there is a lot of things going on about them not actually having licensed therapist, please read up on them

[@Gofftits69]

They sponsor her not the other way around*

[@fillinggaps1975]

All of their therapists are licensed. You literally have to show proof of your licensure to work on the platform.

[@ooriiaxx]

@@fillinggaps1975 bro are you getting paid. fighting tooth and nail to defend this random ass company

[@kingethera]

It is not abnormal to clean guns excessively, some owners are very particular about keeping them clean but some aren’t. It also really depends on the type of gun that was used, some require a lot of upkeep (like muzzleloaders for example). But yeah, it’s not super weird to clean a gun after so few shots but it’s not always necessary.

[@brooke7180]

Yeah I wouldn’t say it’s excessive to clean after shooting a gun. It’s one of the things that you get taught is to clean after every time you go out and shoot

[@Tw0Dots]

I’d still keep an eye on them Just bc more than one person does that doesnt make it weird. Sound like youre trying to convince yourself lmao. There were also a lot of ppl killing ppls bit doesnt mean everyone else thinks its cool😂

[@jennfields1990]

I will say, as an addict, best thing people did for me in my life was to cut me off from any kind of enabling. It help me hit my bottom and be able to get clean and learn to take care of myself. It made me have to really examine a lot of things about myself as well. Sometimes the dad's idea of just throwing them out in the street is better because you can't enable people to death.

[@meleenal7454]

exactly. the way she was wording it bothered me. i haven’t watched the whole story yet but she might have unknowingly had a bias against the father cuz of the case, but you can tell she doesn’t have much experience with either being an addict or having an addict in the family.

[@meleenal7454]

@@may_ryann um. yes that’s what i meant when i said she has a bias lol. i was just talking about the throwing out someone who is an addict part of the story, because that happened before he even committed the murder… it’s not a bad thing to cut someone off if they are sucking the life out of you because of addiction. that was my point.

[@may_ryann]

@@meleenal7454 I agree with you in this. If trying to help a person makes us blurry our own personal boundaries and have a miserable life because of them with no sign of them ever improving, it's definitely better to either leave or cut the person off, especially if they don't want to really get better.

[@kphoria1009]

@@meleenal7454 she doesn’t unknowingly have a bias against him, it’s a conscious bias. the fact that he was telling her to choose her son or him was telling of the kind of person he was. the mother was in fact a protective and soft woman, and it just shows how different the father was in comparison.

[@nnuu7618]

Just because that approach worked for YOU , doesn't mean it will for everyone else. There are people who died because people always think the whole "tough love" approach and think it'll guarantee good reasons

[@kristiehenderson1036]

Hi Hailey! Please reconsider working with Better Help. They have been sketchy for years. If you want more info, Kiki Chanel here on KZbin just uploaded a video on them

[@anne2061]

psych major here studying abnormal psych - please do not support better help!! they have so many problems with client care and do more harm than good. I understand you've gotta do what you've gotta do but I hope this may help for the future!

[@fillinggaps1975]

Lmfao, what?! You're studying abnormal psych so that gives you insider knowledge of the "problems with client care and they do more harm than good?" How do those two thoughts connect?

[@squidlikestodie1570]

@@fillinggaps1975 While they may not be a professional yet, taking classes in abnormal psych does provide insight into what proper mental healthcare looks like.

[@constanzaflv]

Oh no better help…. Please don’t.

[@aneesha0476]

Just a small suggestion. You could add the investigation clips in few instances where you explain that the husband just started ranting about his wife and how controlling she was and then continue with the story. That way, we can also see the footage of the man of how he is trying to manipulate the situation.

[@classicdomdadicewa1359]

I haven’t looked at her channel in a hot minute but I just accidentally clicked and I gotta say a lot has changed but in a good way. Her style will always be so unique, the way she story tells and while doing makeup?? It’s just so entertaining to watch and listen to while doing something.

[@eveykrushensky2928]

i love doing my makeup with you!! i was so pumped to see a new video. this story is so tragic. this poor woman losing her life at the hands of her loved one, in such a graphic brutal and awful way. it’s so sad. i pray for their children and family.

[@alexandramontes3413]

I was thinking about this and the fact that she has his name tattooed on herself 😢 so awful

[@christina8866]

yes it is truly so awful. to think their grandchildren had been at their house only days earlier! and that man who they were supposed to trust and know as their grandpa killed their own grandmother. it’s just horrible. thank you for actually talking about the victim of this video and not the sponsorship, i appreciate seeing people focus on the right things

[@victoriadiesattheend.8478]

How can you sponsor BetterHelp knowing how detrimental they are to people's mental health? Especially considering the fact that they purposely direct their advertising towards introverted people who fear leaving a safe space to talk to a professional and get the help that they need, i.e., exactly the type of person you would find scrolling KZbin videos by themselves. You make plenty of money through views. Get a different sponsorship

[@Gofftits69]

How do you know she knows? I totally agree but you can’t say it matter of fact like that. Although even if she didn’t she prolly should’ve done some research. But still….

[@vanessawhitty3681]

@@Gofftits69 i was just gonna say that!

[@Alyssa-gw8hx]

While BetterHelp is definitely shady (and creators should look into who they're sponsoring), it might not be accurate to say Hailey makes plenty through views. True crime channels often have a very difficult time with monetization through KZbin.

[@al_8159]

Maybe consider the fact that not everyone knows? I have used better help myself and had a great experience. I only found out recently through a friend about the horrible stuff that the company has been putting its clients through. She should have researched the company a LOT more before accepting the sponsorship and I 100% agree with that. But she does claim that she's used better help and she likely had a good experience with them (much like I did). I doubt she would have done this if she actually knew about what was happening with better help so please do not attack people on a whim assuming that they "knew" about what was happening. But thank you for spreading the word, it really does need to get our how horrible better help truly is

[@victoriadiesattheend.8478]

@@al_8159 I agree, I just felt it was important to comment about BetterHelp. While I'm glad you had a good experience I feel as though even if some people have a good experience its important to note that ultimately BetterHelp is out here harming people and portraying themselves to be something they aren't and we can't wait until they actually hurt someone we know. Better to get the word out before someone takes advantage of that "discount"

[@mesicaldc]

I literally just watched a video before this one about how horrible better help is. Please don't promote this brand. They're very sketchy and really they're doing more harm to the mental health community than good.

[@KeekoLanes]

i’m just coming from Kylie’s video lmao

[@fillinggaps1975]

Oh, really? There are stats on this - that BH is causing more harm than good? Or is this just the popular platform to hate on right now?

[@jamiezingsworld5887]

@@fillinggaps1975 to hate on right now? This isn’t some trend that’ll fizzle out people have been calling out this company for well over a year for their lack of research on the “therapists” they hire. Statistics or not if an overwhelmingly large amount of people are coming forward with stories about how these therapists belittled or totally mishandled their mental illnesses it should be taken serious. If a hospital was put on blast for their malpractices and reputation for neglecting and hurting their patients and someone made an ad about how great they are I’m sure you’d be singing a different tune.

[@fillinggaps1975]

@@jamiezingsworld5887 It absolutely IS a trend to hate on BH right now; as noted, this happened before and fizzled out. But ok. Yes, companies should be called out for their bad practices, absolutely. Hospitals absolutely get called out, too! A lot. But no one (that I'm hearing) says "shut down the hospital." It's more like, "We need to reform healthcare." So yes, BH should make changes, but again (maybe I didn't say this here before, it might have been another thread), but again, the general public doesn't understand the actual issues, and all these YT's making misleading videos about "the truth" about BH is doing so much damage. Ok, that last sentence was another though, not really directly replying to what you stated. I totally agree - crappy therapist should not be on BH, and I am guessing they stop getting referrals when there are enough complaints about them from subscribers on the platform. As I said...elsewhere....on a thread on this video, I think, BH requires therapists to submit their ACTUAL LICENSURE to them to even be hired, so there is no reason to put "therapists" condescendingly in quotes. Therapists have to interview, create their own profile and get it APPROVED, and submit their licensure to even work on the platform. BH staff certainly "research,' in a way, their therapists before they're hired. Just like in any profession or job interview, the therapist may look great on paper or interview really well, but how they practice sucks. Again, I would imagine those therapists stop getting subscribers and can no longer practice on the platform. All this to say, all areas of practice in the MH system suck in a lot of ways, but people don't protest ads for hospitals, mental heath centers, or other places (as far as I know) like they do BH. It's a trend right now.

[@jamiezingsworld5887]

@@fillinggaps1975 ​ no it’s not a trend right now not sure if you’ve been living under a rock but I’ve seen this company get called out several times for almost 2 years now. There’s videos dating back to 4 years calling them out. Whenever someone gets a sponsorship from them the comment section looks similar to this. And I put therapist in quotes because I find it ludicrous that a group of professionals who should be well aware of mental illnesses and how they take a toll on the human brain regularly mishandles their patients. It is unacceptable that someone seeking help from religious trauma be paired with a therapist who shoves religion down their throat. It is unacceptable that someone comes to you with a diagnosis from previous mental health professionals and you’ve never heard of the illness so you look it up IN FRONT of your patient and then go on to tell them it sounds made up and that they’re being dramatic. This just being a few of the horror stories. Regardless if it’s done purposely or not this will ALWAYS be attached to their brand and company. And as an influencer it is incredibly irresponsible to promote such a company. Just as it would be irresponsible to promote a company known for scamming or giving low quality products. You need to realize this is not someone complaining about not like the fabric of a jacket bought from a boutique. This is quite literally peoples lively hoods in jeopardy. I don’t get why you’re fighting tooth and nail to defend this exploitative corporation who didn’t require actual LICENSED therapists to be employed by them at one point in time. Who also had in their terms in conditions that they were allowed to sell your information. And not to mention that as little as a few months ago was affiliated with a site that was stealing therapists information and creating fake therapists profiles and when you clicked to book would be redirected to their site. Mind you these therapists did not authorize the creations of these profiles and did not work for better help.They are sketchy, PERIOD. I’m sure there are people who’ve had a great experience but all it takes is one fuck up and the good no longer matters. You don’t get to just continually fuck up when the matter at hand is peoples health.

[@siriusthecat]

Okay that phone call to 911 with the person reporting and the driver.. wow, such kindness from a stranger, it's nice to hear

[@cadyfitzgerald3273]

Please don’t accept sponsorships from BetterHelp!

[@Krissyg2277]

Mind blowing to me that Influensters are not even doing a quick google of their sponsor let alone properly vetting them even that simple act looking them up quickly is better than nada and actually turns up some answers BARE MIN

[@biggumzgermz3504]

I keep seeing a recommended video titled “why are influencers still promoting betterhelp” and my thought was I haven’t even heard of them in ages. Then I click on your video and surprise it’s betterhelp. Just thought that was kinda weird. Anywayz, I love your videos!

[@sudoegodor891]

Better help is a scam. It's basically a cash grab with un qualified therapist. People still taking their promos are sus

[@anniehackett4910]

I love that the other lady in the police call pulled over to stay with her. thats a girlies having each others back moment for sure.

[@joycewible8816]

I LOVED that bit! They were both so shaken up and still supporting each other even though they were (presumably) strangers. Ya love to see it!

[@AbiHegarty]

really disappointed that you didn’t look into the controversies surrounding better help. i love your content so much but i’m really disheartened seeing the sponsorship

[@vanessa_mcleod]

imagine being the woman that found the body, i would have been hysterical

[@kittykatxox845]

Me 🏃🏻‍♀️ to the comments when I saw the better help ad. Good job guys. ❤

[@deandanielle]

Good job ruining the comments section and not focusing on the victim

[@madison.mcintyre]

not the BH ad right after I watched a video about how awful it is

[@hatchet1013]

Ditto on BetterHelp, they are a total scam. Love your videos, keep up the good work!!

[@ciaraeynon755]

Why are you still promoting better help when it's been proven how much of a scam it is and how it's seriously affected ppl (already struggling) in a negative way!?!

[@naivenostalgia]

Probably because she genuinely wasn't aware before. I watch sponsored videos daily on here & this was my first time seeing anything negative about them in the comments. Looking back, it's been a minute since I've seen them sponsor a video, but I never saw anything negative until now. A lot of people have left comments informing her on this video, so I'm sure she will look into it now.

[@bre1836]

@@naivenostalgia don't you think youtubers have a responsibility to research companies before promoting them? Especially when they're targeted to vulnerable people

[@xjbgforeverx]

@@naivenostalgia you aren’t getting paid hundreds or even thousands of dollars to work for them though. If you don’t do any kind of even simple research on places you work for then that’s a problem

[@Ren2736]

@@naivenostalgia Don't be so foolish. Of course she's aware. It's incredibly easy to find out the problems with betterhelp. It has been spoken about for YEARS. If she's choosing to be reckless and disregard the wellbeing of her audience by not doing ANY research into BetterHelp before accepting money from them, that is on her. Don't be such a naive child.

[@lexir4513]

@@Ren2736 y’all do know she might be under a contract or something? if she’s had sponsored videos before they might have put her in a contract that she has to fulfill before cutting ties with them. there could be multiple other reasons she’s still sponsored

[@person-iw8qj]

i'm including myself in the number of comments from fans of hailey that are against betterhelp and frankly want to be against anyone taking their money. they have caused so much trauma and absolutely do harm to the entire practice of mental healthcare. please, consider your research on "controversial people" and consider diving into the harm betterhelp had caused.

[@fillinggaps1975]

Stop spreading misinformation.

[@hollydaye7715]

I watched a lot of his interrogation on EWU. It was absolutely bonkers. This dude is NUTS. The fact that he gave them permission to search was just beyond me. How did he think he was gonna get away with this?

[@lorettascott5477]

😊Happy 2023. I'm so happy to hear the excitement in your voice about 2023 and I'm here for it looking forward! Thank you for another great video!!! ♥️🙏😊

[@kwhite7987]

When buying a new gun you’re supposed to clean it often. Especially when you first buy it, any metal shavings/particular could be the mechanisms and could cause your gun to blow up in your face (: hope this helps!

[@adrenalineliberation]

As a content creator it is your responsibility to vet the people trying to sponsor you. It's you responsibility to make sure you aren't peddling bogus services at the cost of people's health and possible lives. You have influence and pull which is why sponsers reach out to you and you know it well too

[@fillinggaps1975]

Thank goodness she's sponsoring BetterHelp, then!

[@adrenalineliberation]

@@fillinggaps1975 clown

[@morrishirakawa_]

@@fillinggaps1975 not being rude or agressive or anything but is there a reason your defending bh so much? kinda confused especially with the amount of things said and proved abt them

[@carolgannon2307]

Please don't push Better Help. They have so many BAD reviews!!!

[@calikulp]

Your yt chanel has everything! makeup,mystery,murder and vlogs! Most trending things! Loveee!

[@maddyparker9755]

Me from Crawfordsville thinking that bridge sounded familiar than I realized. It’s actually really common for teenagers in town to climb that bridge and I remember all my friends being glad we weren’t the ones to see it.

[@lilpeep1996-h2i]

Girl you have nothing on my KZbin home for a while in the way of my face lit up when I saw your video- BINGE FEST🥰 i’ve missed seeing your videos so much. and i really needed this smile this week. my grandpa just passed and you made my evening and the rest of my week. thank you for being you

[@chrissylekas]

Wait whyyy are influencers still promoting Betterhelp?! 🤦🏻‍♀️ they have done SO MANY terrible things and even their compensation structure is super sketch 😭 PS I love your videos …. But like, any other sponsor would be ideal lol

[@fillinggaps1975]

Oh, really? What terrible things have they done? And please enlighten me - what do you know about their compensation structure?

[@keropi193]

​@@fillinggaps1975 Hey I would have a look at the greater youtube community on this :) There are a lot of essayists that do a great job covering this, but for a start: SmokeyGlow, Epiphany by Yenzel, and Fab Socialism. TLDR; I started therapy over career and adhd stuff and months later ended up with financial stress, depression, career and adhd stuff as a result of them taking money and never rendering service. -- My personal experience: I needed therapy but I was working 12 hour shifts and in person was not an option. I wanted to see if there were any therapists that specialized in ADHD, but I think at the time I had to give them payment info to browse (? not sure been a long time, but they had my info even though I was still shopping around). I messaged a lady who seemed like a good fit, and got a canned/copy-pasted onboarding message in response. Immediately turned off by this, I logged out and continued my search elsewhere. Months and months later, I miss my car insurance payment, and upon checking my bank statement I find out Betterhelp had gradually siphoned over $600 from my accounts. This is despite me never completing onboarding or messaging my therapist for anything more than the very first message. I log back in to check my acc and find she would check in like "Heeyyyy what's up? :)" now and then, even tho I am clearly not on the site or responding. Maybe Betterhelp lets you stay matched if you check in like that? Idk, but she didn't mind taking my money despite knowing full and well I was AFK and not getting help from her. I was disgusted, and I did eventually get my money back, but it took a LONG time.

[@fillinggaps1975]

​@@keropi193 Ok, thank you for sharing some resources. I imagine the essayists you listed are opinion KZbin commentators? Thank you for sharing your story. I empathize with your struggle with ADHD and career stuff. I have some feedback for you, regarding your experience: -I do believe you have to put your payment info in to browse, so it makes sense that they charged your account. The therapist should have individualized your greeting message, I agree. It sounds like she was unprofessional. However, it sounds like you made an impulsive decision after that, by logging off and never canceling your account (I am guessing due to ADHD brain?). -Since you gave your card number, yes, BH will charge your card....for your monthly subscription. You literally signed up for a monthly subscription and forgot to cancel it. This is the same thing that would happen if, say, you signed up for a Hulu account and forgot to cancel it. I understand the big difference here is that the charges are 100's of $$ vs say, $15 a month. -Which leads me to ask: How did you not noticed that a few hundred dollars a month were being charged until you missed your car insurance payment? I imagine this is part of your struggle with ADHD, however, it is dramatic and misleading to say "Betterhelp had siphoned off over $600 from my accounts." Excuse me? You signed up for a monthly subscription and forgot to cancel it; they aren't 'siphoning' money from you; they charged you for the subscription you signed up for; I cannot reiterate this fact enough. -The therapist sounds very unprofessional in how she was messaging you, but here's an insider tip: the therapists get prompted to check in with you, and honestly, these check in messages should have alerted you that you still had a BH account. Subscribers get soooo many messages in their emails and possibly texts (it depends what alerts you sign up for, I think) saying "Your therapist has sent you a message." How did you miss alllll those emails in your inbox over a few months? -Yes, you would stay matched to the therapist you chose unless you actively unmatched from her. I'll let you know that that therapist got noooottttthhhiiinnnggg of your money except for literal pennies from her check in messages. She is an independent contractor. BH will get your money, which is fair, since you signed up for a subscription and didn't cancel it. That's how subscriptions work. -There's really not much the therapists can do when subscribers go AFK except continue sending check in messages. It's up to you to cancel the subscription. -It sounds like your experience with BH was greatly affected by living with ADHD, which is no one's fault, but it's not fair to throw a valid company's reputation under the bus, call it a scam, etc., when you chose not to use the service you signed up for.

[@jada6lu3]

@@fillinggaps1975 bye what are u even saying bh is horrible

[@chrissylekas]

@@fillinggaps1975 do you work for bh or something? (Yah don’t have to answer that lol but holy defensive)

[@kellywelly36]

Loves this and the lovely comments about Hope at the end, wonderful coverage and a way to remember her ❤️🦋

[@Jaysennx3]

never seen this channel before but these comments are VERY telling. If we alllll know about better help being a complete scam there’s NO WAY the people who are promoting them and getting paid for it doesn’t know it’s also a scam. Wanna give this girl the benefit of the doubt bc she looks very nice so I’d hope she wouldn’t just promote a scam to her fan base for a check but yikes not even a single comment from her makes it seem like she was already aware it was a scam smh

[@OfficalMaryScott]

I’ve been binging a bunch of Hailey Elizabeth videos today

[@MarnieGolde7]

Better Help offers “licensed” therapy…by allowing the people who work for them to sign up for their own “licensing” classes. Similar to how the MLM Primerica offer their own “financial classes and certifications” that no refutable agency takes seriously or legitimately.

[@jameseyman9078]

Personally, this is my favorite type of content she makes! Much appreciated

[@oliviasommerville4733]

I don’t live too far from Crawfordsville, and I’d never heard of this case! Absolutely shocking and terrible.

[@kristenrhine5029]

same!

[@surrealfantasy1554]

Hey! Better Help is not a good company or sponsor to have/support! I would take sometime to look into it, as the company puts a sour taste in my mouth. Kinda disappointed to see it here...

[@citlalliyepez5379]

Your silence on the better help issue is louder

[@alisonb1942]

girl not the betterhelp sponsorship 💀

[@kkittycatkat1990]

That's NOT throwing a bone! They're trying to get him to admit anger and true intent. They do this often and would then turn it on it's head if he took the bait. Watch some interrogations. They do this all the time. Instead of him getting off on a messed lesser charge they're trying to get him on the true charge which is much more severe.

[@katherinerex9067]

I’m so done with Better Help influences, there’s no excuses. You either don’t know, which is insane and you’re responsible for knowing your literal sponsor and if you do know that’s even worse. Either way it seems influencers (like Haley) only care about the money that comes with sponsors and not the actual product and people who get harmed from said product.

[@bre1836]

Right? Like how can you not know, and if she doesn't know, then she didn't look into it, which isn't right either. After the established titles scam, you'd think she'd have done her research before cashing out.

[@aiyven5558]

i was so disappointed when i saw the sponsor, hailey’s a youtuber i’ve always seen as unproblematic, this has made me doubt my thoughts though

[@tyrasetyler1584]

Maybe she researched before all this bad stuff came out about the company . Don’t be so quick to judge !

[@Kelseyzj]

@@tyrasetyler1584 It has been widely talked about for, at the very least 4 years now. A huge creator made a video in 2018. So it blew up. One google search shows the horror stories. So I would hope she would research a sponsor sooner than 4 years ago.

[@kittykittybangbang000]

Ikr I’m sick of people babying influencers and acting like they’re clueless

[@kjbermudez1412]

Haileeeeyyyyyy 😩 please, PLEEEEEASE stop allowing the sponsoring of BetterHelp. Ain’t nothing better or helpful about those people over there. Love you ❤️✨

[@tashanicole8822]

Since you asked in the video, it is actually common to clean your gun anytime you shoot it. If you just put it away even after shooting one bullet, it can causes a lot of wear and tear and the gun won’t shoot as well and can break over time

[@jadedcroissant]

Thank you for the information!

[@kphoria1009]

interesting

[@jamiedolin994]

Thank you for being so genuine

[@meganwilson3369]

I cannot stress enough, I will not be back until you’ve done a video on the harm better help has caused and donate the money to an actual mental health organization.

[@piperlongboat7479]

Hailey babe look up the stuff ab better help!!! Love you & your videos always xo

[@thepl4ygirl]

seeing you posted 13 minutes ago made my heart so happy :) thank you girly !! I love you and hope you're doing great !!!!

[@madisonhelton1622]

great coverage hailey!! side note: i'm so tired right now i saw the #ad and deadass thought it said #sad at first and i was like aw man):

[@shelbyking7960]

Love your videos! Keeping the name Hope Parks in mind. I hope the rest of her family is doing well.

[@sophiarc4873]

I love how big this community has grown 💖 I love your content and makeups💖

[@dabest444u]

I love how all these comments are just saying how better help ain’t SHIT lmfaooo love that!! Talk ya ahit ppl :) hope you all are having an amazing Sunday! ❤

[@bed_time_boy6848]

life’s better when hailey uploads😌

[@lunalee1320]

I don't think the detective was trying to give him a way out, he was trying to get him to confess he was an aggressive person and might repeat the offence and then the broken gun excuse was to catch him in a lie to show he has no remorse. With the current story (the accidental shooting), he could get a lighter serving and the police want him to be in there as long as possible

[@colleenterry5458]

Hailey I love you and your videos! Your voice is so nice to listen to! I won't watch a video no matter how good it looks unless I like the voice lol You're an amazing person keep being sweet and putting out awesome videos!!!!

[@ashleyw6160]

Poor Hope!! That is beyond awful...he def did it intentionally & has no remorse! Also, it really sucks that so many are talking about sponsorships instead of the victim of this case. 🥺

[@Ines-pm7xb]

I agree with you it’s sad that that’s what so many comments are focused on…

[@zowy98933]

Exactly thank you ! Everyone gonna have diff experiences. Sucks.but it's life. This is about hope and nothing else. Plus people need to do their own research b4 paying for services and not just trust some paid ad/ commercial.

[@bre1836]

@@Ines-pm7xb It is sad, but at the same time, she has to be held accountable for the content that she advertises to her audience. Especially when it's aimed at people with mental health issues.

[@bre1836]

@@zowy98933 So it's okay that she can do no research at all, cash out large amounts of money and then go "your fault, you should've looked into it." Nope, that's not okay.

[@ash_tray]

You can be upset about two things at once. Hailey needs to be made aware of this if she doesn’t know. This case is dealt with and closed and there is nothing we can do. Hailey having an awful sponsor that is actively harming people… that can be helped.

[@ghostlyzone]

I'm from the Crawfordsville area, I remember this being talked about. My friends and I hang out at sugar creek all the time, even before this happened, it's so sad and crazy how a place I saw as fun was the scene of a sinister crime. I hope Hope is resting peacefully and she's doing well wherever she is now. Michael deserves to rot.

[@jessieleebernosky426]

I really love how you tell stories. A clear, calm and feminine voice and how for the people you are! Keep up the good work and your awesome(:

[@michaelscott8588]

I haven’t heard about Better help, but people in the comments are saying that you should reconsider working with them. Please listen to your fans, love.

[@lunaskisses]

Check out pewdieies betterhelp video :)

[@ilovebooksandmycats669]

i feel so bad for the son, imagine struggling with addiction and the one person who was supporting and loving you through it gets murdered in part because the person was angry they were helping you

[@alexisd8835]

So excited to see a video today I’ve been waiting patiently can’t wait for more to come ❤❤😊 your makeup is always beautiful

[@Katie-wp3ue]

Disappointed in the better help partnership. I’ve seen so many people speak about how it has re traumatised them and hurt their mental health

[@mirandavictoria7150]

I will say, as someone with past substance issues, my family not enabling me was the best thing they could have done for me in hindsight

[@icedcreamisland]

Happy New Year Hailey!! Looking forward to all of your 2023 content.

[@kennedysteen]

omg this is my hometown and i’ve been waiting forever for someone to cover this!!

[@mackenzie1899]

Is Crawford in the north or south of Indiana? I live around Munice, so that’s round the middle of IN.

[@kennedysteen]

@@mackenzie1899 it’s closer to the west!

[@isabelnewton19]

wow, this happened in my hometown and i actually only heard about the case just now thru your video. i was away at college when it happened, so maybe that's why i didn't hear about it. crawfordsville is a really small town and literally nothing ever happens here except drugs because indiana, so it really is a HUGE shock that something like this can happen here. it's terrifying for everyone, because in a place like this everybody knows everybody, we're basically ALL neighbors, friends, and family. this sort of thing really puts into perspective that this sort of thing can literally happen anywhere, and it really rocks a small town like this because "oh this would never happen to us, this would never happen here" knowing how the people of cville are, Hope is absolutely remembered fondly by many many people and many if not all churches in the area definitely prayed for her soul to rest peacefully. she is still loved and remembered by a lot of people. may her soul rest well, and may that criminal rot in prison.

[@HauntedVirgo]

Bro… so I just looked up Betterhelp, because I saw a tremendous outpour of negative comments on this video, and apparently they’ve been shady af since 2018 ish. More like you’d get “better help” going to real therapy. It’s okay Hailey, we still love you. I’m sure you honestly didn’t realize. We learn & grow. xx

[@anikagrace7530]

I know a lot of people are saying this, but it really needs to be heard. Better help is a SCAM. If anyone in these comments is struggling they should not get better help because they just steal your money and give you no therapy or “therapy” from untrained individuals.

[@unicornrocker44]

i live less than an hour away from where this happened, and this is the first that I'm hearing about this case. that's wild

[@Rick-pq3zy]

I go to college in the town and it honestly wasn’t too big of news among students either. I remember it as a great welcome to freshman year!

[@whyme-uw3gj]

besides all the BH issues, i do want to bring light to the victim in todays story because im not seeing much. Hope sounded so sweet and kind. she was such a forgiving person and I'd hate to hear about all of the horrible things she had been subjected to prior to her life being taken. 50 years isnt enough. that monster took a woman's life due to his own selfishness and lack of proper communication. rest in peace Hope, you deserved better. 🤍

[@paidendenae]

i was just about to mention that. i understand that people have strong opinions about better help but like the comment section is flooded with that and barely any commentary on the victim

[@whyme-uw3gj]

@@paidendenae i get so irritated when people comment about literally anything other than the case. it feels so disrespectful ):

[@annonymous_666]

@@whyme-uw3gj then you should be upset with Haley for promoting a scam to harm peoples mental health during her video about the case.

[@whyme-uw3gj]

@@annonymous_666 she didnt think this would happen. end of discussion. a woman was murdered.

[@annonymous_666]

@@whyme-uw3gj you're completely missing the entire point. She's supposed to look into who she sponsors if she cares at all about her audience. That's still her fault

[@sof1675]

Ohhh we love a content creator that does not take ✨accountability✨ 😒😒

[@BB1990x]

I hate that she’s not even responding to address ALL of the comments

[@sof1675]

@@BB1990x truly careless and immature