Hal Speaks on Why He Left TSM & Joined DarkZero

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[@TheChunkyPuff]

you can tell this really hurt hal bro :/ i’m sure it was one of the hardest choices he’s made in years

[@shadow12k]

Yeah. Its hard to choose between friends & career. I was honestly expecting him to thrash them but im glad i was wrong about his personality.

[@cameronthompson4196]

Yeah…reps and Verhulst have been his brothers for a couple years now. Playing 8-12 hours a day together then just leaving definitely hurts all of them, but I’m sure they will play together occasionally in scrims and in ranked over the next several seasons

[@yuuwrld6896]

He’s been playing with reps for over half a decade now. And won everything with him too I’d be broken if I had to leave for the sake of continuing my career as welll

[@caleb.lindsay]

"Comes down to who I WANT to play with." Doesn't sound too broken up. A guy making a career move just says, "I wanna win." Makes them getting pooped on make way more sense.

[@CLNAW]

@@caleb.lindsay buddy is cooking nothing 🔥

[@pabblo101]

DZ_ImperialHal was a memed name into existence

[@sppl623]

name memed into existence *

[@otakunosekai7495]

@@sppl623 aaaaghhh eyes-rolled*, Thank you

[@SugarHillGoGetBack]

its a cold day in hell today.

[@jns08d]

I thought it was clickbait lol

[@puffyips]

if you really love apex this isn’t a bad thing at all it’s pretty cool tbh when you’re not attached to people you don’t know online

[@DirectFireDave]

@@puffyipsthis phrase is in reference to the fact that it was unexpected!

[@3culturetv350]

Hal did the honourable thing by leaving TSM he didn't want to drop his team mates and leave their futures uncertain so he risked his own career and took a chance on himself gotta respect that.

[@fluffyisangry8197]

He didnt risk his career im sure hes getting close to max deals from multiple orgs and I wouldn’t really say he’s taking a chance either he moved from a top 3 na team to another top 3 na team. Took guts because socially he knew it wouldnt be as acceptable but thats it

[@p2pirate534]

@@fluffyisangry8197 true and a step further, the money he makes from playing comp is completely negligible compared to his income from streaming. There was literally zero risk to his career.

[@3culturetv350]

​@@fluffyisangry8197 Having offers doesn't mean much, even joining a new tier 1 org is still a risk, he had tenure at tsm he could have dropped reps and Evan if he was coldhearted. But he didn't that's my main point.

[@kait2972]

How about nobody gets dropped, he acts like a man, takes the loss of the chin, finds some passion and comes back better next split. Instead, he wants to insinuate that his team is holding him back and not be honest that he just wants to cheese his way to a free win. TSM, the org, is probably the only winner out of this, if they keep Evan and Jordan.

[@3culturetv350]

​@@p2pirate534that's just not true, money isn't everything what happens if the DZ super team does terrible and doesn't qualify for lan? It will be the worst mistake of his gaming career I'd call that a risk. The man is crying on stream and you are telling me he's not taking a risk here😭?

[@josedeldago9130]

hal and reps breaking up breaks my heart

[@TheGoldenApex]

Frrrrr😭😭😭

[@galactic4830]

Based on the wording of how Hal is going with Gen and Zer0. This was the best move to do so Jordan and Evan could still remain with the org and keep the PL spot. No way DZ has enough buyout money for Hal so when the contract is up Hal gets onboarded to DZ or DZ leaves Apex and the 3 get signed to Red Bull Gaming or the Saudi team picks them up. On paper, this is a clear powerhouse trio to win that massive prize pool. An end to a dynastic era for TSM and ImperialHal.... The duo of Reps and Hal ends here. This will either be the most winning trio in Apex history moving forward or the most toxic self-imploding group we have between Hal and Zer0.

[@brock6516]

Hal keeping it real. This has to be one of the toughest calls in his life and salute to him for going with that gut feeling to make the move but also still love his brothers and do the best he could with them in mind. Passion is as strong as ever!

[@kidneythief6833]

Truly a sad day for the apex legends scene. Seeing reps and Hal not being on the same team will never be normal to me! RIP a classic apex team

[@mungi2170]

I started to play apex by watching him. Honestly, I prefer watching him because he was the IGL, I think watching IGL pov is always more fun to watch. We know sometimes he acts like toxic or angry but everyone who follow the TSM Apex contents etc. could know that he is a great and funny dude. Respect the decision, I still love Hal ofc but I hope there'll be no beef between Jordan and Evan. Thanks the legendary run of TSM with the boys, hope everyone will be happy. At the end of the day, it is just a game and not important than the happiness!

[@Taylor_King]

Poor dude. Looks like he needs a hug. Can’t wait to see how they perform together

[@Freeride600]

this feel like a late april fools fever dream. Wild changeup.

[@wildouter]

i had to check the day it was posted

[@David.77]

I know right, I can't wait for what's next tho

[@Taranis2b]

10:15 Speaking of crying 😂 This TSM team was awesome. As long as there are no hard feelings or guilt from Hal’s side, there is nothing to cry about. They’ve created wonderful memories together and after maybe talking things over again as a farewell hopefully everyone is looking forward to what’s next. Would be a shame to have any serious regrets despite such a legacy as a team and as friends. ❤

[@losthyperspace]

From now on, you shall be known as Darth Hal

[@TheGoldenApex]

Bruh😂😂😂

[@deki5616]

I feel like the org wants to kick out reps or verhulst but hal is the one who volunteered so that reps and evan could stayed in tsm

[@sheyarjames4904]

This somewhat feels like KD joining the Warriors

[@jackfico3021]

Literally said this to a friend

[@Numbtothepain]

I swear I just mentioned this with my boys

[@christiansantiago5363]

Is not the same, KD didn't win championships on OKC, DZ has 2 big wins compared to HAL who has multiple championships!

[@whos_agent2129]

Yeah. Honestly this would be Magic Johnson joining the Larry bird on the Celtics.

[@kyreedavis4770]

Ong

[@A_few_words]

Emotional damage

[@mr.potatofries8094]

I think Sikezz was a perfect 3rd for DZ. Having a player that blends well with the team is better than having one of the best players if there is a chance of them not integrating well.

[@Taylor_King]

Yeah sikezz move to DZ was one of the cleanest/most successful integrations to a team that there’s ever been.. pretty sad

[@BobbyApex]

Just part of the game bro. The smaller the team, the harder the decisions. Sikezz was a fantastic pickup and I loved their chemistry. I think Hal will soften up a little bit without the pressure and aggravation of IGLing. Also, Zer0 will shut him the fuck down if he starts yapping and doesn't have fresh to back up Hal. I'm sure things will work out well. Zer0 and Gen are monsters and exactly what Hal needs

[@mr.potatofries8094]

@@BobbyApex I doubt it bro I think they will split for sure especially because zero and gen are quick to drop someone if it’s not working out fast enough. I think they just have a mentally that they should be winning every game and that’s so unrealistic.

[@AffeLoc0]

i wonder how healthy tsm as an org currently is

[@YunaYuaMai]

[@tPeazyy]

That's what I'm thinking too.

[@youngrootv]

They are down horrendously and have had poor management in the higher ups for a while now. Their Apex team was literally their biggest team bringing in eyes to the org.

[@blastingoff]

It was a dying org a few years ago. But I think this may be the final indicator to send it into the final death spiral.

[@blorbb5398]

I am so excited to see who is going to fill Hal's position. Who is going to place himself in a place where he will be constantly compared to Hal.

[@shadow12k]

Honestly im glad the pro league is so healthy for people to go “look around”.

[@MitoseNorikoFan]

What esport prevents players from talking to other orgs when their contract is running out?

[@davidwyrsch7086]

@@MitoseNorikoFan I think he means that it’s in a healthy enough state that he even has other options to consider realistically

[@Salaryman_]

Very tough decision to make. Sounds like he was very mature about it, and the way he talks about it is mature and respectful. Props to Hal and good luck to him.

[@keyrollin8200]

seeing half leaving hits a spot in my heart.. after all these years

[@kyleadams3610]

No lie my heart just dropped and I legit almost cried when Hal started crying because that TSM squad has given us fans so many memories and ik for a fact Hal loves Jordan and verhulst like brothers no matter what. Damn I’m gonna miss that team so much

[@seanelgie]

Imperialhal villain arc and I’m here for it!

[@JordanEst]

MAN im sad to see it broken up AND id have rather see alb come back ... BUT this is the best possible outcome.. gen and hal is gonna be amazing too watch and super awesome content FOR SURE

[@ponx_apex]

I honestly thought tsm was going to have to retire his jersey. Didn't picture him going anywhere else

[@zenibas_seal]

must be hard having to take that decision, hope they all do good in their teams ❤

[@adamjones7014]

If the Dodgers of recent, the 2000's Lakers, the Miami Heat w/ Lebon or the Brooklyn Nets .. you could get all the best players in the league .. but you can't replace chemistry & historically, chemistry win's 99% of the time.

[@icehour6568]

The writing was on the wall last year that even though they've won the London lan it was bound to happen with the lay offs and small staffing that you can really tell TSM is on it's last legs, like the old saying goes, if you can't beat them, join em.

[@joshathens5227]

Good for Apex, New teammates, perfect timing. Cant wait to see the VS old teamate clips. Lets squeeze atleast 1 more banger comp scene.

[@COA5T]

They threw so they could move on.

[@aarongibbs2260]

This shit is sad. I have no reason to watch competitive apex anymore. Hulst, reps and hal was my favourite dynamic in a team setting. This is shit.

[@ALLOFTHEBOOST]

Wow. Didnt think he would ever leave. I dont think you can take the igl out of hal tho, so will be interesting to see how he goes.

[@senorgreen3819]

Dz getting challenged at every poi I think now lol

[@nichhh8379]

Not with the changes coming in with randomly selected POIs for teams

[@tiptai9767]

If it’s not about the money and his contract is expired then It honestly just sounds like he just wants to play with players that are at his skill level and there’s nothing wrong with that. Hal is a competitive person by nature his number one goal is to win and if that means joining the DZ roster then that’s what he’s gonna do I don’t blame him at all. This kinda happens in other esports and in actual sports all the time. Different contracts are signed, people move around, different players go to different teams. This is just how the world works. Nothing lasts forever

[@unwono]

You are insane if you think jordan and evan aren't on the same skill level

[@tiptai9767]

@@unwono coming from a die hard tsm fanboy they threw nearly every single game in the most recent lan and had an abhorrent performance

[@tiptai9767]

@@unwono other teams just caught up in terms of skill

[@garrymiller3171]

​@@tiptai9767You think Hal telling his team he's leaving didn't hurt them at LAN? Reps and Evan did play bad but Hal also threw games in the finals.

[@tiptai9767]

@@garrymiller3171 yeah no shit the knowledge that Hal might leave affected them probably more so considering the fact that right off the bat, they were doing terrible thought that was obvious

[@felipez3115]

Hal, Zero and Gen? I'm a really DZ fan now, that's insane!

[@Peligrososa]

He didn't join Darkzero. He is playing with Zer0 and Genburten.

[@polo2132]

I'm pretty sure he did. He fully left tsm and will be moving out of the house

[@Peligrososa]

@@polo2132 It's TBD which org theyre joining. He explicit said he is playing with those 2 players and not that he joined DZ.

[@razvancoltz7241]

they will form a new org ...rumors are Falcons ?

[@numbedhuman1495]

He joined DZ he said he was changing his twitch name ect.

[@snuggleseal]

he literally did

[@lileazy024]

Good on you hal here lies an END OF AN ERA may you have Limitless luck and prosperous future ahead of you🎉🎉

[@KirksyBoutit]

Haven’t they been crushing? Did 1 event really turn him off tsm that much?? It seems like such an overreaction

[@fedrex8410]

Agreed, wtf

[@chandlerryan1863]

Everything else aside, ppl saying this is the equivalent of durant joining the warriors are wrong. Durant couldnt win without the warriors. Hal on the otherhand is literally the undisputed goat of apex: this is more like if Michael jordan joined the celtics or lakers or something

[@hoodyplz]

Hal realizing he's leaving his best friend in reps hit hard real af moment

[@hypeman2000]

$100 says Mac join tsm again between this season and the next

[@marcelobose9139]

that would be cool but i doubt it

[@javiderivia4224]

Mac wants to igl but he is not good igl and he is way way toxic for teams in every team he has been he is that toxic guy, Evan and reps wont hold that from a bad igl

[@Userelevenforty]

this feels like when kd joined the warriors

[@emdash8944]

Let me get this straight... Hal is ditching Evan and Reps because he thinks they are not good enough players. Right before leaving for LAN, Hal drops this massive bombshell on Reps and Evan, that he's considering the unthinkable. Imagine how heavily this might've weighed on Reps and Evan's conscience. The future of their career is on the line with this LAN. Does it even make a difference? Has Hal made up his mind already? In hindsight I'm not at all surprised TSM did poorly. The boys' nerves must've been wrecked.

[@garrymiller3171]

I'll still be cheering for reps and verhulst. Hopefully dark zero gets contested and loses every game of pro league off drop.

[@gabeitches87]

Real hater energy 💯 I respect it

[@BoogalouJenkins]

Apex is not the same as it once was. Tsm had some big wins and before I even started to get into watching comp scene on the regular. Hal with Reps and Alb and Hal with Reps and Verhulst. Teams gonna have to step up their game if they wanna be remembered as one of the top teams like tsm.

[@NoodleFlame]

I support Hal so looks like I have a new team to follow

[@racingsponga]

Hal want to be on the winning team every year

[@Bennendetti]

TSM and maybe one other org have kept their rosters from being in shambles after every event and every lan, it was time for a change within one of the main ones that's been together 2+ years after a roster change. Apex PL has the most mind fuck of rosters, from them being on different orgs or them switching players last minute after signing a full 3 man to one org, mfs really gotta remember that when it comes to APL.

[@JCCOOLDOWN]

Hal still top g in apex. Guy deserves a new I.d after the hacking bs.

[@xanira6367]

i was shocked as well. honestly disappointed in hal, but i will continue to root for reps and verhulst

[@puffyips]

why are you so attached to a team roster in an esport it really doesn’t make sense, especially the unsaid hate towards Hal, weird.

[@xanira6367]

@@puffyipsi think its weird that he decides to leave after literally still making finals but a bad placement within finals, a single time. didnt try to work on reigniting chemistry or anything, just left as soon as they didnt perform.

[@iFranOne]

@@xanira6367 but its been 5 years. Chemistry is the last thing they worried about. If they placed 17th before his contract was up (last year) he would still play with them. Now, he reached the end of the contract and looks elsewhere. And change is a good thing. It reignites a lot of stuff. Same goes for Ver and Reps. They gonna be better now. Same as Hal

[@reybeltran1209]

​@@xanira6367You obviously didn't watch the video. Hal said his contract expired before lan and that he brought it up to his teammates before lan 👍

[@xanira6367]

@@reybeltran1209 that doesn't change anything. If you listened he said he wasn't opposed to staying with the team either.

[@mikawalliser5199]

I love this Don’t really care about dz but him changing teams is even tho I love Tsm, so refreshing

[@SaDANKO]

Hal will dominate as always tru emotions always come out when it’s real u can tell he wants to win…….100%

[@yashawal]

Love Hal's honesty

[@mrroyce7]

Was it having to tell the boys before LAN part of the offer???

[@TheGoldenApex]

I’m still so fucking shell shocked. I feel betrayed and I am literally crying rn😭😭😭 So ridicules😭😭😭 AHHHHHHHHH

[@gurren2727]

Dayum him joining DZ is basically him giving the torch to Zero as the best igl

[@legouloog8451]

Hal igl > zero tbh

[@marcelobose9139]

not really

[@sppl623]

people will argue with you but this is 100% correct. even if it’s hal not wanting too, he simply don’t got the stamina to keep doing it zer0 does

[@robledosieteseis2291]

@@legouloog8451prime tsm hal will never be possible to replicate.

[@ilodabomb]

Zero way better than hal will ever be. The fact that zero, while being a crackhead on mnk, won 3 lans with different teams all the time, is evidence enough that he is the best igl. Hal literally had to switch to roller to stay relevant and the only reason he won was because the horizon crutch meta fit his playstyle. Look at the current meta, tsm basically not relevant at all.

[@wrenokow]

daaang this team is gonna be insane though at the very least

[@lawlietriver8869]

Good for him.

[@amfam100]

hal is gonna be a fragger with gen???? this could be crazy!!!!

[@yungmarqmusic.7608]

i expect there to be about as MANY THANK YOU HAL VIDEOS as trophies this man won for the TSM org SRSLY if they dont honor this man i will genuinely start a riot in worlds edge

[@Weah702]

Zero the new CEO

[@TheGoldenApex]

No he’s not not even close. Hal is the goat and he always will be.

[@Weah702]

@@TheGoldenApex bro blowing bubbles on it lmao

[@hawaiilacrosse44]

I was really hoping to not see DZ continue to dominate all of NA. Guess it will continue to be DZ vs the rest of NA.

[@kylemartin8991]

If you need a good lan to help you decide, it's already over in terms of mentality

[@historic6752]

Think it’s the opposite actually. If it takes that big of a decision to stay or go, it means he had many reasons to stay as he did to leave. He has won many trophies with the team, made a huge leap leaving tsm for a new team.

[@xbiker321]

Change is good.

[@positivevibes532]

Holy shit Hal really left TSM. I hope he knows what he’s doing

[@buddhastl7120]

As long as they continue to let Zero do his thing and don’t bring Raven aboard to mess things up they’ll be hands down the best team

[@drewg3669]

If a superteam is considered unhealthy than you want a boring game, let the best teams form and force the rest of the teams to get up to their level

[@CaptainGunSkill]

who did dz drop for hal ?

[@jordanarmenta]

I’m glad that these kids are getting exposure to the real world.

[@iZYL0]

damn unc

[@puffyips]

Are you 20 or 40? Can’t tell from profile, also yes I’m piccolo but it’s King Piccolo to you.

[@JohnSmith-zk3kd]

wdym changing teams or leaving co workers

[@gabeitches87]

Barely 😂

[@BackwardsMrahc]

Wtf are you talking about?

[@yashawal]

Bro it's the end of anyone else winning in apex comp other than DZ

[@ElliottSalabarria-us1ry]

I could dig hal its time to get wins else where

[@johnkirk8338]

Passion

[@ryan555.3]

Hal to Evan on holiday after lan- you dropped bro

[@ryankeen6756]

Btw he said the org is tbd so might Wnaa change the title. They ain’t even announced it on there twitter or anything

[@alpang6161]

Equivalent of Kevin Durant joining the Warriors. I ain't saying it's bad but it's definitely the cop out move. Until other NA teams can finally put up a good fight, DZ is going to dominate NA

[@TACT1LE]

It's the opposite. This is like Steph Curry leaving the Warriors lol

[@r0achk3vin]

No wonder big e and reps played the way they did at LAN... damn... thats tough..

[@jeremy8481]

That’s probably why they played bad even tho he said he wasn’t leaving reps and verhurst knew deep inside he still was

[@Ogkhail]

Redbull starting their own apex team 👀

[@doniscoming]

He didnt join Darkzero, he joined Zero and Gen and are looking for new org

[@conrade0404]

Damn, this is crazy.

[@5thgen691]

The reps and hal duo 😢😢😢

[@demonslayer_831]

Much Love TSM

[@danielfinlayson8127]

I know TSM were poor in the latest comp, I'd say this has had an impact on their performance for sure. Add Raven into that and its easy to see how things went so badly for them, whether they admit to this having an impact or not is another issue.

[@jeremy8481]

Who’s igl then a zero or Hal?

[@danielblackburn9012]

I seriously do not see them getting along at all.

[@jaroogee]

KD to the Warriors type shit

[@andrewmckay5103]

I'm stoked.. I can actually like Hal now.. Dark Zero rocks.. Fkn Luv Genburton.. He's a classic. You should have a lot of fun..

[@akisxaniotakis6353]

Hopefully i am wrong , but i have a feeling this i'snt going to work for Hal.

[@javiderivia4224]

Now makes more sense why they played that bad damn no pasion no nothing sad way to say goodbye but at least they are on good terms

[@puffyips]

Hal as fragger/anchor for dz is far better than him as igl/fragger on tsm this is a W for Hal chatters are too attached

[@treeduck999]

When you like your teammates and you dont want to shit talk

[@skawattle1213]

Let the screaming contest begin haha poor Gen going to have sore ears

[@jonathanb9037]

First Toosh.... now Hal.

[@ggcrunchyz]

What’s crazy is that if he ends up winning everything with DZ he’s still better than Zero. Five head move from the CEO.

[@zonazerogaming6760]

tell me you cried without telling me you cried 😭😭

[@Hunter-rp4oz]

Who is the igl

[@whiteboikev]

think he said Zero. don’t feel like replaying vid lol. tbh they’ll probably b co igl end of the day during a fight.

[@TheScepter25]

Holy shit

[@imreallynothappy]

Was TSM not doing well? I thought they were like back to back ALGS champs or something.

[@kingkoopa654]

It won’t work IMO Hal being hired as a fragger doesn’t make sense since he isn’t hailed for his fragger skills. It’s more his mind/positioning & team assigning skills… After many years of controlling the team he won’t know how to not do that… Can’t wait for their first clash tho lol

[@GodlyTricks]

he is known for being a fragger though, its just that he was also one of the best igls around too

[@Aaronxxi]

Hmm I think it might work since he knows what it's like to be igl he'll know what not to do as a fragger.

[@blankr2910]

He's hailed constantly for his fragging skills ever since he swapped to controller lmao. Watch any scrim tournament where he's subbing and isn't IGl, he goes absolutely crazy

[@arctictropic1147]

The same way he won Twitch Rivals with Sweet as igl and Jal as fragger, the same can be said with DZ and Zero as igl. He'll still co-igl, no doubt, he seems to rather frag out than command a team it seems

[@VicesEPXV]

Hal has top fragged while simultaneously being IGL, if I am not mistaken is still the top of the leaderboards with most kills in ALGs history with Nafen (Sadge) being up there as well. We saw a sneak preview during the horizon seer meta where he was IGLing but still had a fragger role playing an aggressive fighting character in Horizon. I think he will only excel as a fragger, knowing that Zero is the only other comparable to him in IGLing. The concerns will be if their opinions may clash if Hal has other ideas, and how Gen will fair knowing that Gen will most likely fill the Glue role, something Reps did very well when Hal was on TSM. The upside is ginormous, the Two Best IGLs and dominant individual players, as well as the best controller aimer in the world in Gen.

[@ifcatsweregamers2048]

Please delete the first comments

[@lenk1432]

First reply

[@legouloog8451]

Why ?