IiTzTimmy on why he Left Dezign & Enemy

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00:23 What you came for

[@DiosDeKush]

Falcons really set the tone for stacking

[@theswagger5386]

Imo this makes moist worse, they're losing a top 10 IGL. Nothing against Timmy

[@the.lotus.casino4895]

@@theswagger5386 emtee hasnt won anything, timmy won last chance qualifier and then got 4th at lan and couldve won if they killed tsm in that one fight while emtee got 12th that lan

[@Annaindau]

@@theswagger5386I mean, homie is still there. He is just being the coach. He will be crucial with mst macro

[@TJzWayy]

⁠@@theswagger5386what did that top 10 IGL get them? Weren’t they in last?

[@gekikara23]

@@the.lotus.casino4895 you are talking as if Timmy was the one IGLing the squad in those results when it was obviously Dezign. Timmy IGLing didn't even clear multiple challenger circuits in case you forgot

[@3oosty]

Timmy handled that with class. No bad blood, no trash-talking, just respect and love for his old teammates.

[@gantz0622]

Imagine leaving the only team that carried you into ALGS after playing with them for less than a year. How on earth is that remotely smart or respectable

[@korikibou2177]

A typical response tbh.

[@DanielRios-un8jp]

You are on point bro. Dezign was popping offf bro.. but no one wants to hear that in the chat, especially when you’re this good

[@TheZerro95]

True, unlike Verhulst who had to diss his former coach and igl

[@Saltytomatoe]

​@@TheZerro95 verhulst had every reason to do so when hal quit after losing lans like a cry baby.

[@SugarHillGoGetBack]

this is gonna be the most stacked NA group stages we’ve seen

[@notoriousalien]

ong

[@dmasiodnmiod]

@@notoriousalien what teams are "stacked"?

[@the.lotus.casino4895]

@@dmasiodnmiod falcons ssg, moist, tsm, e8, lg, all are very capable of winning split 2 playoffs

[@JohnJohn-bz1lq]

@@dmasiodnmiodLG,falcons,moist, fanatic,Native,C9,NRG,FURIA,oxygen maybe TSM and liquid

[@chuckgrenier8898]

​@@the.lotus.casino4895 e8???

[@DarkPlatinm27]

I don’t expect DSG to stay around with Timmy gone. We know Toast made that signing more for Timmy than Dezign and Enemy. Unless they make a huge impact without Timmy, I expect DSG to sign a new team or leave Apex altogether.

[@dc7339]

that's what I said. The team was created around Timmy. Not sure why he brought on Dezign. I would've snapped on his ass a long time ago.

[@nicks2601]

Yall glazing hard I think Timmy is a top teir player but if you remember when G8 was a team they were a top 5 team in NA although the org didn't last long but it wasn't the players they dominated, design resultah and gentrifying were giving everyone a run for their money I believe they won an online ALGS or placed top 3 can't remember.

[@dokusei1208]

with world cup coming, I don't think leaving Apex now is an option

[@zbaitl]

​​@@nicks2601 I agree design does have that potential and the team. But he's getting in the way more than he's helping recently. The way he tries to dominate the roster even harder than Hal with TSM. And I think almost anyone wouldn't use the screaming method with Timmy, or enemy for that matter. Design clearly kills the drive when he starts throwing a fit. I say that cause it's not just passion from him he gets flat out angry. Even if it's not him teammates, and then he bleeds that frustration onto them without a second thought. Kinda why TSM broke down. They already wanted a dynamic change and things just kept snowballing. Until verhulst was bitter, reps couldn't care, and Hal was being stubborn. I think DSG could make top tier teams on their own. Just not together. But they really did give it a chance. I think that's what makes this make sense compared to other rosters quiting after 1-2 tournaments. And personally I think anyone would leap at MOIST. Especially considering Timmy is also a content creator that's why he lined up with toast. He understood what Timmy needs and could bring it. Sorry for the essay. I just kept going and now noticed😅 what do you think about it?

[@tphil5901]

​@@dc7339to be fair he didn't "bring on dezign. They teamed from the jump in CC. Dezign IGLed them to winning LCQ and making champs. Dezign wasn't just "a pick up". He was a crucial part to DSGs success

[@galactic4830]

Smart move from Timmy. No longer needs play with a 1-trick Wraith and can IGL like he wanted to with Gild and Wxltzy while Emtee moves to the coaching position.

[@t3e_e]

It's a great combo to keep the existing chemistry, strats, etc. I'm so happy I can watch Timmy without listening to Des

[@Key-ny2zm]

Wxltzy is igl bruhv

[@wideputin3649]

holy fck timmy fans are such goobers

[@Mo-xf2mx]

Enemy clearly wasn’t the problem so I do feel kind of bad for him, but I think it’s ironic how dezign always gets so mad and acts like it’s everybody else’s fault but his own, he’s the definition of a terribly toxic teammate.

[@wesleywood3532]

⁠@@Mo-xf2mxbut he lead them to 2 finals at lan and both times they were 1 fight away from winning and Hal was also toxic when he was an igl and they were the most successful team to ever play the game

[@Pitsis]

GGs Timmy best of luck with new team❤

[@grenli6443]

Good move for Timothy.. hopefully he can flourish now

[@derrickkelly5108]

Enemy sitting in a dark corner rocking back n forth with a thumb in his mouth while dezign cracking his whip calling out enemy’s name

[@panamasyndicate]

A designful revenge story is nearly as intriguing as an Evan Verhulst revenge story I believe people will die this season.

[@gangsta_loki3159]

ears will die from dez raging so loud

[@DarkPlatinm27]

Unfortunately this is the norm for Dezign. His teammates don’t stay with him. We know everyone’s arguments but ultimately Dezign is the common denominator.

[@panamasyndicate]

@@gangsta_loki3159 you ain't lying shit is epic though

[@lookatthem3216]

@@DarkPlatinm27 Whatever do you mean 😂?

[@Visstnok]

Ooph, I don't want to know what Nice Guy Evan revenge story looks like.

[@lildetroit07]

If you watch alot of their VODs Timmy just looked uncomfortable with dezign 's raging. But also Timmy as great as he is seems to lack consistent decision making which you can't tolerate at a high level.

[@MrSkullhead0]

We’ve been seeing the same story so far. Lots of Business decisions being made, from Hal to Falcons, now Timmy to Moist. This change spreading out the god tier pro players is going to make the storyline go NUTS.

[@johnbenson1736]

Calling Timmy a god tier pro is wild😭he’s not even top 5 mnk in NA.

[@garrymiller3171]

Yeah timmy is an average pro player

[@user-kj5cb1hh1d]

​@@johnbenson1736iirc hal said tim is actually top 5 mnk mechanically at least

[@fiar6513]

@@garrymiller3171u must be on drugs

[@aja3longhorn375]

@@user-kj5cb1hh1d that wasn't the compliment you think it was

[@tvguy551]

The watch parties with Charlie are gonna be awesome

[@dc7339]

Timmy, Guild and Waltzy...that's a great team...

[@eyansrevenge]

Never heard of them

[@jasonheslin5854]

Goodluck TimTam brother it was a good run wit the boyz now let’s go grab a chip🤙🏻💪🏻

[@johnnythelodmate6365]

Good on you timmy! Dezign just held them back so much. Excited to see how moist do!

[@Cjmcfly]

Toast punching the air right now

[@markalexanderrow]

I definitely wanted to see Dojo/DSG win LAN with the original squad. It would have been one of the best stories I think in esports history. But they still have an amazing story and Moist is going to be a scary team to tussle with now! God bless

[@mikerusso8321]

Good move for both teams. Excited to see who DSG picks up.

[@ryanstyx3044]

Great move from Timmy, looking forward Timmy and Moist to play in ALGS ❤

[@iFluxyy]

Gild, Timmy and Wxltzy? Can't wait to see that team in action

[@rohithc8708]

Emtee seems like he could be a fantastic coach, I’m curious to see though. He’s got lots of passion.

[@california_gurl]

Good luck Timmy! You got this!! Team Moist is one of the teams I'll be cheering for!

[@IamJacksColon4]

Tsm allowed Mac to compete for liquid and c9

[@JordanEst]

Yooo Charlie handling Timmy should be fire

[@zaccatella6377]

Never thought I'd see Timmy on Charlie's team lol my fav KZbinr and fav apex player

[@pranzs1762]

Hal really started a revolution 💀

[@manny_12331]

BRO FRRR EVERYBODY GOING IN A NEW TEAM😭😭😭😭everything has changed it's crazy

[@nicks2601]

Just wondering how long have yall even watched pro leagues...? The most consistent team in terms of roasters was TSM with the longest running team with the least amount of roaster swaps....but ya its pretty normal especially with a team like DSG they were new and when fresh professional talent hits the scene everyone is scouting just like any other pro sport, just look at team ESA when verhaulst hopped in pros he was scooped up quick by TSM

[@aaronbutler5429]

Lmfao pro players change teams all the time.

[@amofo7281]

Dezign is about as good of an igl as mazer. That being said i would love to see mazer and Dezign team up😂😂😂 plz make that happen for the content

[@name22329y]

They already did and didn't do well

[@conundrum4282]

Zach and design have both been great igls at a certain time. Zach has actually improved a lot recently in his own play which is nice to see cause he was an absolute joke before

[@amofo7281]

@conundrum4282 Yeah, great is definitely not the right word. In fact, even in Zachs own words, he should've never been a pro. He basically lucked into it. And yeah Zach has improved a lot for sure, what place are they in algs right now?

[@conundrum4282]

@@amofo7281 I said “in his own play” I’m not talking about their team.

[@nicks2601]

​@@conundrum4282 idk if I'd call Zach a joke....he is a very skilled player among the top .01% in all of apex in terms of raw skill but yeah...I get what you are saying

[@Annaindau]

Tell me how I felt something was unsaid when dsg finished their pro league day. Just felt like Timmy was just done with his current situation. All the best, can’t wait to see the pro lobbies now

[@starrwinter]

Enemy sent him nothing but love and I’m sure this was so hard, but like living with friends sometimes you have to be apart to STAY friends.

[@zombiedeathrays8862]

Phenomenal news. ROSTERMANIA continues 😂😂😂

[@buch679]

finally no more design when watching timmy

[@tk3420]

YO MOIST IS STACKED

[@itszaque5031]

Man I really want this to work out for Moist. I feel like both teams have been underperforming this season, hopefully this change inspires improvement in both squads.

[@ruweee4443]

Timmy from a streamer owned team to another streamer owned team.

[@ModGGZ]

Bronzy takin shots 😂😂😭😭😭😭😭

[@BlazeNarutoShippuden]

Bronzy moment had me laughing lol

[@Icesweats]

w pick up for moist. love to see it

[@beneast5216]

will be a strong af team

[@aeyr]

Super sad he's not with DSG. That is just, unfortunate. Here's to hoping he works out

[@Mr_Blaze117]

THANK GOD they were holding him back so bad

[@karnizor4051]

While im excited, moist is oficially not an apac team anymore RIP.. hope emtee is doing alright too ❤

[@illuminate427]

Also, 100% more Charlie. Pappa Moist will take good care of you.

[@ttokentv1631]

Dezign was bringing the team down anyways, cant play with someone that cries and rages and every little inconvenience. Just my opinion tho.

[@richrich6247]

And quits

[@lycanismusic]

Guess im a moist fan now 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@TACT1LE]

Could be worse, they are a great team

[@d15p4tch6]

I was hoping for a SEESH return!!

[@peruboy2011]

Wasn’t he just saying how he will deal with Dezign and try to make it work? 😂😭

[@conundrum4282]

That was just a response to design raging at them

[@shiki494]

That clip of today was like two weeks old

[@Thatdudewiththedogs]

That’s just kind of the most mature thing he could say in the moment I think, I mean there’s not much else he can say in a professional sense without dogging Dezign. Timmy is pro at keeping it professional

[@guitarislife9831]

someone named MOIST is wild

[@VeryBadPlayerTV]

FUCK YEA TIMMY LETS GO IM ROOTING FOR YOU MAN

[@arthurlamora8520]

during a split when rosters are locked this shouldnt be happening tbf

[@nier3434]

He can call Post Malone and Charlie Moist Crit friends 🤯

[@theculture42069]

He has known Charlie for a long time idk how long you been in the streaming scene but they know each other for years now

[@nier3434]

@@theculture42069 that's sick. Timmy seems like such a good guy

[@lenk1432]

Who cares

[@user-vf4oh1pd9t]

Unfortunate because DSG was a really fun team to watch, but if Moist wants you you definitely go unless you’re on Falcons or TSM. All love Timmy! Wonder who the DSG boys will get, those are big shoes to fill.

[@dc7339]

damn, that is a great addition for Moist. I'm glad Timmy left Disguised. I don't know how he dealt with Dezign for that long.

[@BiPolarClay]

This seems like a very lateral move. But I guess I'm a Moist fan now.

[@cyarain]

I was really confused on whether to support dsg or notmoist, I guess I don't have to choose anymore 😂

[@vatop1304]

Apex civil war phase 2

[@slayz1515]

Falcons have a team that can easily beat them now. Thank the lord we won’t have 1 team winning everything

[@beastbruh1087]

LFG TIMMY!!!

[@taupzeast8346]

Bro you with evan and verhulst wouldve been nuts 🫣 what couldve been

[@Hrules18]

Hm🤔

[@korikibou2177]

Aren't they the same ppl?

[@conradclaassen1214]

You have time to edit this

[@TH3BLUENEBULA]

I’m watching Algs now used to be mid when Tsm was the puppy dog

[@steezyhaha1163]

Now it makes sense why moist and Dsg did so bad(yesterday)....

[@JohnJohn-bz1lq]

Design feels like he failed Timmy and enemy realize he’s actually really bad and the one that holding them back

[@Rice--0]

both been ass for awhile

[@konosuba350]

@JohnJohn-bz1lq yet he still play wraith for scrims

[@nicks2601]

​@@JohnJohn-bz1lq lol how long have you even followed the pro scene?! Dezign is a more accomplished player than both Timmy and enemy combined in terms of pro league accomplishments he was once part of a top 5 team in all of apex easily when he played with gent and resaultah and a winner in an online ALGS event during covid

[@nicks2601]

​@@konosuba350 and? Scrims are meant for practice....practice with everything in any way half the teams don't even take it that seriously "oh no he plays wraith in a scrim?! He's so bad" lmao yall wild

[@ADPJ19]

This is why you always do what’s best for yourself. Dezign got shafted

[@johnnythelodmate6365]

Design shafted himself with his childish hissy fits

[@jonnybro7676]

Nobody wants to be around that raging toxic child. I'm surprised timmy even played with him

[@getCoDos]

In the end, it's all about the mortgage. That damn mortgage. LOL Anyway, GL to Timmy. Shoot for the stars.

[@maekoh]

Amazing move for Timmy. I love dezign, but this wraith setup is so god awful in this meta. Timmy being able to join a team that allows him to co-IGL alongside teammates that already have very good coordination, and a 3rd that has moved to the coaching position, allows him to think a lot more freely and make decisions that aren't majority based around wraith rotations.

[@dokusei1208]

Poor Enemy, Dezign trial for TSM but was not good enough so he stayed, now Timmy getting out cause they suck this split, but smart move from Timmy fr

[@cdv1qa]

Well I guess I'm be supporting Moist now!

[@Kavz2401]

Timmy deserved a better IGL

[@darkt0st00]

Lmao sov much drama in the apex comp scene

[@gundarsmiks4889]

So thats why they didnt perfom at all in ALGs...

[@stuckwchuck]

ROSTERMANIA

[@jaysonmejia4245]

i bet design is raging in his room right now , probably punching holes in the walls n shit

[@ALLOFTHEBOOST]

Not surprised really. He should be at ease with Moist.

[@papashred4015]

The general public dont understand, players are NOT oblidged to stay with a team. They legit have such a small window to make as much money as possible until they reach their age cap. Non of you would ever know, as you have never competed at a high level for anything in life.

[@Rwoarr]

No one is going to argue your point, the only thing that could or should be argued is the fact that rosters are supposedly locked for the split, so then this transition shouldn't have been able to happen or should have had some kind of penalty attached to it. "None of you would ever know, as you have never competed at a high level for anything in life." that is a wild statement

[@lpsoldier357]

i miss team sheesh

[@areheptus6566]

Dude zipp your English sounds different? I mean to say like it isn't your native language right?

[@faedrenn]

Eastern Euro i think

[@conundrum4282]

Yeah no shit 😭💀

[@DevinHeida]

Hes Romanian

[@Wakeen510]

He was crying about how much money he is going to be making

[@swervo8291]

Community can’t go 1 day without drama lmao

[@AZusos]

This roster change is literally the LEAST drama. Just sounds like a mutual agreement to part ways. There was literally no animosity... Or at least none of that content is out yet, lol.

[@m0bb-_-]

How is leaving a roster considered drama?

[@Glaedr11]

This isnt drama lol. Drama will be if DSG starts talking crap on Timmy

[@Taylor_King]

@@AZusos dezigns tweet was heaps snarky

[@dixonyu4349]

Call me crazy but im not a big fan of that "co-IGL" idea ever. When its a 3 person team you need a leader and two people willing to be on the same page with that leaders plays. Feeding information off each other is just what every player does with their teammate in every game. Even hal to falcons, He's not even close to "Co-IGL'ing" them. Dudes barely talking

[@Visstnok]

Yeah, co-IGL is some fatherless zoomer concept.

[@live4god30]

Reps was co-igl with Hal for at least a year and they made it work.

[@gameplaynation4280]

@@live4god30reps was never co-igl with Hal. Are you on drugs?

[@live4god30]

@gameplaynation4280 both Hal and Reps have said they co-igl, so no, I am not on drugs.

[@gameplaynation4280]

@@live4god30 They tried reps out as coigl back in Poland 2019 but then decided to stick with Hal as exclusive igl. Find me evidence of them claiming they coigl because you’re not gonna find it. Hal has been the exclusive igl for 5 years

[@kushh6553]

Shit wasn’t healthy don’t blame him

[@deki5616]

He's not even getting paid in dsg so there's no problem with dat

[@ilyyeu]

Apex teams coming like daily fifa trades😂😂

[@TNSnellslaw]

Sometimes to me its crazy how professional they are, hyping up their soon to be ex teammates lol. You're leaving for a reason, couldn't be because they are amazing teammates. Overall great decision for TImmy, I could not stand design

[@cb7636]

why did he lose his twitch contract btw?

[@chico20282]

i remember at one point timmy and Hal were the only apex streamers getting 10k+ viewers consistently, timmys been around 2-3. still a lot but he signed that contract when he had 5 digit subs at any given time, not even close to that now

[@okene]

​@@chico20282Hal used to have 15k+ subs during the pandemic. That's just crazy. Even when watch partying Japanese tournaments he would have like 50k viewers, 60k minimum for algs matches with snipe and reps. He talked about making 6 figures monthly back then. Probably still stacked though, he and Timmy just got redbull sponsorships

[@DevinHeida]

​@@chico20282 out of curiosity, do you know why his stream has lowered in viewers? I know he's not content creating anymore, but is that a big reason?

[@conundrum4282]

@@DevinHeidathat’s definitely the big reason. He switched to comp scene and there are better teams to watch. Hopefully his viewership goes up with gild and waltsy they are going to be a good team I can tell.

[@Marco-ii1sn]

@@DevinHeidaTBH, even outside of the content. I’m sure a lot of ppl stopped tuning in because of Dezign. He lost some content viewers but also Apex viewers, not because of him but cuz of his teammate. That’s why I stopped tuning in as much and I know a few other ppl personally that feels the same. This move to moist is the best for him all the way around. So happy for Timothy

[@rajuparla4863]

This guy is still a ranked player

[@thematrixproject3504]

Dezign was definitely the problem lol

[@steezyhaha1163]

They are cooked there's no igl in this team

[@gundarsmiks4889]

DSG didnt review vods??? Wow... Well... Yeah. Thats a thing!

[@hanifka378]

what do you expect getting place 20th lol

[@unlimitedlimiter4285]

I mean he technically switched to a worst team in placement if that's the case moist got 4 points over 5 games yesterday

[@uncagedmnc956]

@@unlimitedlimiter4285moist tho are higher overall than dsg

[@davidferrer678]

@@unlimitedlimiter4285I mean points matter but playing with the right people can make a massive difference and potentially turn the tables

[@gantz0622]

If he cared about placement more than money he would still be with DSG

[@Rice--0]

what the fuck is apex esport man like i guess roster lock is just not a thing? they're literally playing a split rn transfer should never be possible

[@joe12311994006]

Now Apex like NBA, team with All star, if u can’t beat them, join them 😂

[@VAs_B.A.T]

Everyone shocked when this happens every year! lol 😂 team swapping isn’t new or ground breaking

[@orionsdetailing]

Yeah id leave Dezign to.

[@deeznewts4186]

Where to?

[@conradclaassen1214]

*too

[@reisen4963]

he called Dezign an incredible igl HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[@stanleyfranks9891]

Damn these kids are impulsive!! DSG almost wins twice in a short span so they break up after Design turns down TSM?? If You Listen Close you can hear Design Raging somewhere...

[@kingkoopa654]

That punk Dezign is going to double up on the puberty blockers after this I knew that 4th place finish at champs was a fluke…

[@RowOfMushyTiT]

LMAO WTF

[@ReFLexX_ii]

😂😂😂😂

[@eggsTV_]

hating to this level is insane lmao, get well soon

[@6Catz]

@@eggsTV_ kendrick made hating cool again bro

[@t3e_e]

​@@eggsTV_he makes it easy. It's almost a challenge to not actively hate him based entirely on in game comms, and I consider myself above all that...

[@bufuCS]

DSG didnt pay him???

[@andrewsalmon321]

we kno why you left dezign!!! but enemy is the dude

[@hunterdavidson2502]

design is horrible. im glad timmy left to a better team. enemy would find a better team as well. design cant think to save his life.

[@urwrldluv]

Moist is definitely beating Falcons. LETS GO!!!!!

[@gregngg]

thank god i didn't buy a dsg jersey.

[@jiminit1]

dezign must be pissed considering he turned down tsm to stay with dsg

[@TACT1LE]

Dezign never had an offer to join TSM lmao

[@jiminit1]

@@TACT1LE other than the fact he did, that’s a good point👍