Hal Speaks Out on What Went Wrong at LAN

[@Aaronxxi]

Take a shot every time he says "like"

[@thumbwreckage585]

Saw this comment as I loaded up the video. 28 times

[@Aarooka]

then another every time he says "I dunno"

[@darren_1320]

I’m wasted

[@criticolehits5766]

Ded 💀

[@philmcokanbalz6372]

goona need a 5th at least

[@BurnedWardrobe]

Big thing for me was that one off spawn they lost, they lost a 3v2, that’s not TSM bro. Idk what was happening.

[@abhorrred]

throwing on purpose

[@tdestroyer4780]

@@abhorrred I think a lot of established teams are just getting burnt out. New blood is starting to rise.

[@thepenguin4379]

I'm no TSM fan but its hard to watch Hal seemed completely crushed by this, hope they get it together next split

[@comend1910]

Tbf it sounds like he just woke up, but yea I agree

[@djoerrr]

it doesn't even look like they play together next split

[@gggame57]

He is noob bro

[@Manu-sk7qx]

reps is washed get him out

[@xTonzzz]

It was a typical viewing of when you have a bad streak on apex ranked lol.. everything that can go wrong goes wrong and every variable is against you it happens

[@jupiterapollo4985]

Being a pro is about minimising those types of randomised situations as humanly possible with other gameplay factors. Like Hal said "It was a skill issue" plain and simple.

[@archfiendredifiend]

@@jupiterapollo4985who’s skill in particular ?

[@jupiterapollo4985]

@@archfiendredifiend They all had problems in different situations that they needed to minimise and fix before lan. Just watch the video as the dude tells you what you wanna know.

[@Patukah1879]

He's 100% right, from what I saw their calls and macro looked fine, but they would die in the stupidest ways, basically good ideas with poor execution. Dying on crosses, losing fair 3v3s, individual trolling, it felt like one player would make a crucial mistake every game and that ultimately led to them not getting anywhere.

[@berserkmonk5331]

Yeah call out their 3v3 fights, and 90% of tsm fans wanna roast you. Majority were saying it was because Tsm had 0 zones pull their way. Glad to hear Hal say it himself, that they just straight up sucked at 3v3 fights.

[@onit_4208]

Every time i watch a video of hal talking bro is always saying "i dont know" like every sentence 😂

[@GrimBlackout]

“I called someone else to win it” sounds like you threw, bad choice of words.

[@CilettiSpaghetti]

A bunch of good teams at LAN had an MnK player on Hound bc of no aim assist in smoke. Feel like reps was capable in that role and less in others

[@mattjtx93]

I wanna know what hal said to Evan when he attempted to climb up the pole on WE when they got killed by alliance.

[@ITsKalvin]

What happened to the script

[@Hapykillmore]

They don't play enough together anymore. Only time all 3 of them play together is scrims or pro league

[@dbeasteditors3067]

I am a TSM fan and what I notice is not picking the best agents probably due to contest etc. 3 v 3 was absolutely trash. Absolutely slow rotations was another major issue they did.

[@pewlynndonsuarez2710]

there's three reasons why. and it doesn't include TSM sucks, you guys are playing exactly how you guys used to be. the problem was; 1. You underestimated other regions 2. You got ass-handled with shotgun users 3. You got rolled by MnK players moving slick plus second point. so that makes sense

[@docman1013]

you can't have chemistry if offseason Hal is playing with other people, Evan is doing his thing and Reps appears only for scrims. I know a lot of people are doing their thing but on other regions teams work hard at their comp and putting hundreds of hours playing together

[@treeduck999]

If you wanna know why you should not drop school, try to follow a sentence from hal. Man is simple subject, verb, direct object

[@gabeitches87]

I, like... I like don't know what you're like, getting at. Like, see, like if you actually took the time to like to be like a little more clear, then like it would like... like...

[@mehhhhhhhh2215]

“Its everyones fault but mine”

[@codeTopia379]

Change the title to Hal yapping

[@alecride]

Removing digi threat cause the apex devs are once again incapable of creating balanced items part-season 21 5 years after the fact they still can't balance a kitchen scale.

[@kashura38]

This man cant form a full sentence without saying "like". Jesus how do you listen to this

[@tvshka8381]

The hours before the season dropped I was getting straight 8 to 10 kill games, as well as over 2500 damage games, and all the sudden the season comes out and I can't win a single game nor fight teams at all, instant deaths, overall I am not really happy with the state of the game rn, I do not feel any joy or excitement anymore

[@tdestroyer4780]

This game is rigged and profit based. It's why it's free to play. Judging by the politics of the company I also wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of social credit based system in place.

[@brandoncoleman4013]

Hes wrong...hes saying its a skill issue and they just arent good enough and it has nothing to do with composition. Thats blatantly false. Dude is too in his feelings still. Whats more likely that most of the other teams all got better than the best team in the world in 1 split of apex? Or that they werent on the best legends for each player causing them to lose confidence slowly over time and let their chemistry erode? Im not saying it's all about composition but its def part of it. Its obvious they are a team that needs to either A go back to hard zone and adjust their comp/playstyle to it or B stay on edge and adjust to it. They were playing edge this tourny while they werent comfortable in fights and not poroperly strategizing for it. Often times rhey would try to rotate to get a good spot from a way edge poi to play zone. Sorry bro yall aint gonna make it there on time from that far away. You need to adjust strategy

[@jayoen_o]

I don’t know

[@Sir_Saint_1]

I think Hal should have played Horizon, Evan on Bloundhound and reps on bang.

[@deki5616]

Asian players is so gifted dat they don't need a roller in their team to win

[@BExAxKING]

Skilled m&k player over controller literally every time. Apex is the only game where people are dumb enough to think controller is better rat the highest level.

[@Raylz-h9c]

​@@BExAxKING ...this is very circumstential and not true in every situation. I am not a roller player but did try it for 1 season and went straight to my normal rank cause aim is just insane wiht roller. If a gifted guy uses controller u are fucked as soon as his aim assist activates...idc if u are a movement god, u will get beamed the second u move predictable...and when u don't move predictable u dont hit ur shots...and don't tell me otherwise, r5 sweats prove this in every dm i play there..they jump around like monkeys but don't hit shit while doing it. I think u are the dumb one, u did not think much about this and just want it to be true that mnk is always better, which is, as already stated, not the case in every scenario.

[@tdestroyer4780]

@@BExAxKING 90% of 1v1 fights in regular pubs and ranked is just dominated by Mnk players. The only spot they're bad at is 1-10 feet away in a 1v1. That's it. They dominate everything else including movement etc.

[@BExAxKING]

@@tdestroyer4780 I agree but the broader apex community is too dumb to understand this. Hence NA and EU being mostly 1/2 comps with two controller players as the “fraggers” while the m&k player is considered the brains. Meanwhile teams like Aurora FNC and Reject are coming over with triple m&k and just rolling these controller players who cannot play the game against them.

[@simply1087]

This is right after he talked shit how "they always perform no matter what" right before LAN on stream

[@Aaronxxi]

Bro's mad that the best apex igl has confidence lmao

[@joanacosta5385]

but they performed, they went to Finals and of all the teams they were the top 21%. Out of 40 Zones, they only get one Zone.

[@Nendo249]

They made it to championship Sunday. Put some respect on that

[@babymaker8986]

​@@Nendo249 they were awful

[@nPilz]

​@@Aaronxxistop it he is by far not the best but the most Kids like him because they think thats a cool grown dude. You know the truth

[@AjayRage]

Hire me!!!!

[@WhosMathew]

hackers are infiltrating the lan with their elite hacks 1337...

[@Energyswordsunday]

raven is getting dropped, when i was at algs I heard there was tension between big e and raven

[@FeelsHeavenly26]

Yeah peep Evan’s tweet too

[@boltsquad6445]

Raven didnt get dropped, his contract expired with TSM

[@FeelsHeavenly26]

@@boltsquad6445and it didn’t get renewed, so he was “dropped”.

[@tiptai9767]

@@KLBL-dp8mc waiiiit what did he say I can’t find anything in his twitter

[@flatkingwest7553]

What did he say I don’t have twitter

[@ig0ty0ur6ix4]

So he is blaming everyone but himself

[@maekoh]

That's just not true at all, did you even watch the video? lmao. He says multiple times that he fucked up a lot, but he's also not one to sugarcoat if his teammates fuck up. And if you watched the tournament at all, he was the best on the team and it wasn't even close. They didn't even play overly terrible, they just could not coordinate when it came to a 3v3, their rotations and decisions were normal.

[@ig0ty0ur6ix4]

@@maekoh yeah I definitely watched the tourney. And it was him that got them killed. Horrible rotations, putting them in difficult situations. He was the first one knocked 3/4ths of the games..

[@KingManeTV]

Tsm tanked

[@worzeldanier9012]

winners all mk players but controller op

[@timothymoore2966]

Bring back horizon

[@mcfeybros1016]

no more hacks

[@IamJacksColon4]

3v3s were bad because of reps

[@oneounceslugAPEX]

Too bad the game is in the bin with rainbow6 siege anyways.

[@austinryder7265]

To many hackers

[@bmomosaik]

so basically hes saying they are washed. and the other teams are now better at the game then they are. at this current state

[@Visstnok]

Raven ruined TSM. Honestly, he needs to pay.

[@possumkeys]

How?

[@Visstnok]

@@possumkeys Legend Tokens.

[@jupiterapollo4985]

How? He made them win again when they were pretty down bad. There's some internal issues and Raven does seem to never accept when he's wrong in situations, but you can't deny that he contributed to them being champions again.

[@arctictropic1147]

​@Visstnok no, you donut. How did he ruin TSM???

[@onit_4208]

Lmao ​@@arctictropic1147

[@Fatpumpumlovah2]

rEPS!! he was always late on bang smokes and ults, then you switched him to caustic and he did the exact same thing with caustic... sorry but that guy erks me big time with how he plays like he cant think for himself.

[@jupiterapollo4985]

Reps has always been a weak link in Tsm since day one. The reality is that he remains on the team becuase Hal has good chemistry with him after playing with he for many years, and he knows how to "listen". But there are way better players than him out there.

[@veqad2242]

look at them couch players flaming on a guy who did most contributions in the team on the finals day...really dude? why dont u show him the ropes to how to be bang or caustic since u are such a pro at them.

[@Fatpumpumlovah2]

@@veqad2242 oh look another american rainbow hurt by words on a screen... Whats new in america lol. Its always these youtube accts with nothing subbed to, nothing playlisted, suprised you even have an avatar. its my oppinion lil rainbow soy!!

[@Fatpumpumlovah2]

@@veqad2242 yeah, at least this couch player wouldnt throw an bang ult left when the IGL says throw it right eh?!

[@Fatpumpumlovah2]

@@veqad2242 lets recap eh? game 1 : hal tells him to bang ult and he takes an entire 7 seconds to do so allowing the team to push up and kill them. game 2 : he wastes bang ult in trenches leaving them trapped and pinched and when he gets it again and hal tells him to throw he throws it right in front of them damaging his own team. game 3 : another bad ult to the truck getting them stuck and damaged by their own ult yet again. game 4 : same crap, ulting too close. game 5 : told they are being shot from height and doesnt throw ult until he's alrady dead. game 6 : now he on caustic and fighting height refuses to throw his ult to get them off the roof. game 7 : says he ulted the tanks but ults the building. wastes time trying to place a respawn beacon EVERYONE KNOWS YOU CANT PLACE ON TOP OF THAT SECTION, proceeds to miss every shot and turns back on the enemy coming around the corner after he just fully healed. shall i go on? did you even watch the games? doubtful. STFU

[@chocomilkfps1264]

Just to stir the pot… not commenting on team stuff, IS a comment on team stuff

[@nPilz]

Well, i think i have far more gaming hours in apex than you hal, the reason you Lose 3v3 even if you downed one and Cracked one is nobrain getting close without knowing what the enemy could do. People hear you, they can plan in a second how to Deal with a Team. I love getting pushed with my fullstack they listen to me and we always get the first Person that Show up. The second trys and almost everytime the third runs. At this point we downed 2 and never saw the 3, but, he was there. When you react short enough to the push, you counter the advantage by the push. If you manage to Freeze the fck anything else and just commit to the pushing Team, you would only Lose it when your skill is way lower than your opponents or they got simply lucky which also happens. I get mad at "people" calling themself pro but complain the game to be changed. You are a pro if you Deal with what you got better then the rest. If something is shit and hard for everyone, be the one that makes it look easy. Its most never the game, its yourself.

[@iwantyou9944]

he is a cheater playing with cronus 😂

[@arctictropic1147]

Hal is just making excuses for his teams performance. Comp does matter when some players are naturally better than others on certain legends. He's letting Raven get to his head. This meta heavily is in favor or edge teams more so than zone teams, so having to copy-paste what everyone was using is a terrible idea.

[@veqad2242]

umm what? ''making excuses''? he straight off said that its skill issue, did u really watch the video at all? also how does ''copy pasting'' contribute as terrible idea, u dont like it when its all same comps or u dont like it when teams are trying to change comps?