Half in the Bag Episode 140: The Cloverfield Paradox and the Netflix Conundrum (SPOILERS)

Mike and Jay discuss the latest film in the Cloverfield "franchise," The Cloverfield Project, as well as it's release strategy of being dumped direct to Netflix. SPOILERS AHOY!

[@HotKakez]

I hope that Gugu Mabath-Raw and Lady Gaga team up in a buddy cop film called Gugu Gaga.

[@markiefella]

I would definitely watch that.

[@lukefraser5727]

What a comment nicely done sir sorry im 3 years late

[@thedude1562]

If she were to have a child, would she call it Baby Goo Goo?

[@foxdie8302]

I love how Mike only realized his mistake in "The Room" vs "Room" when he uttered the sentence "The Room is a great film". Like somehow saying that made his mouth burn and he realized something was wrong.

[@c1v1lwar24]

Coming soon to dumped to Netflix, Space Cop 2: Cloverfield Cop.

[@AdamLeuer]

_Space Cop_ was _always_ part of the Cloverfield® Cinematic Franchise.

[@josiahbahuaud2294]

I'd watch that.

[@krenwregget7667]

ultimately it's a film about family.

[@joeplumley3238]

Finally.

[@wheeliebin18]

*Vin Diesel nods in approval*

[@yurihageshi8008]

What kind of "family"?

[@360.Tapestry]

@@yurihageshi8008 a cloverfield monster family

[@turtleanton6539]

Every movie is

[@ryanfrantz8994]

"Just tricking em'" is really about family. That's why it's so powerful.

[@holben27]

"Just trick em'" is the key to all this

[@H0TR0B]

Every trick is so dense, there's so much going on.

[@thenaughtyavocado3326]

It took 12 years to make!

[@samuelG009]

Ryan Frantz lol

[@Bloodynine606]

It's stylistically designed to be that way.

[@steponmy92]

You got your wish Jay. Theatres are dead.

[@cara2467]

Thank god

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Spider-Man disagrees

[@frankmerker630]

Goes even more along their prediction, only superhero movies can succeed in theaters now

[@Killgore-ip2yq]

​@@frankmerker630 Oh, well here's another dated comment. 😅

[@gizzylaserfoot2604]

This was a great episode to follow up the gay wedding story arc. I wonder where this season is gonna go.

[@Protagonist]

They continue to break new ground as they create new grounds to break. They trully are the greatest creative minds of their generation.

[@Lanterns_light]

Not clickbait

[@Bloodynine606]

The gay wedding arc is really about family.

[@thomasbrundigejones5780]

Wait so, they open up a portal to another dimension in the hopes of siphoning its energy and monsters come out... this movie has the same plot of DOOM 2016

[@Whitexican1301]

No, their plan was to build an infinite energy source which ends up combining all dimensions together. It shouldn't be classified as a portal.

[@FSM1138]

@@tverdislavrolensky3597 actually, in half life they didnt mean to open a portal, but breen being the dickhead that he is sabotaged the sample to open the door for a future combine invasion

[@arenkai]

@En' Peacee Shekelstein Oooooh... That's why Luke went out like an old fart... He was Doomguy's old fart !

[@TheTrueCaptainAwesome]

Someday, a child being born within the last and next month is gonna make a movie about how we opened up a portal to solve the pandemic, and this will be the historic evidence that the idea was unoriginal 30 years prior.

[@RobTunes]

Doom 2016 has better characters though.

[@Nightstalker314]

Is Star Wars EP 9 gonna be sold as a Cloverfield movie?

[@tomlion0116]

On Netflix??? :D

[@oscarsantana9983]

The Clover monster is actually going to be retroactively CGI'd in place of the Rancor in Return of the Jedi.

[@DeadlyDre]

Nightstalker314 I'm sure there will be some lose, ridiculously hard to find, convoluted, inverted pause and play Slowly while watching it upside down in a mirror on Tuesdays @ exactly 4:49am thing that will related to Cloverfield

[@Nightstalker314]

Cloverfield is the key to all of this! If we could only get it working!

[@mikewrobproductions]

Nightstalker314 ha ha... Oh wait, could happen...

[@BretHammond1967]

The Netflix target audience is people under house arrest.

[@loveshack6880]

💀💀💀💀💀

[@atomic_wait]

And now it's the entire human population sheltering in place.

[@GustheOttsel]

Boy did you hit that nail on the head.

[@narc8835]

This comment aged well lmao

[@Olebull93]

2020 stocks go stonks

[@GreenPiCat]

“As long as there are writers out there writing quality scripts we’ll be okay but there are not” was perfect deadpan I burst out laughing

[@racewiththefalcons1]

"...the arm stuff, but they treat that more humerus." Nice one, Jay.

[@ArcturusMinsk]

Hey, why doesn't RLM just make a bunch of movies and sell them to Netflix? They'll buy anything, so might as well make some cash off it.

[@MichaelPohoreski]

It is far easier to criticize (bad) movies then to create (good) ones. With the way Hollywood keeps turning out crap RLM will never be out a job.

[@mintcoffee6030]

Because they don't have the ability to create anyhing of substance. It's the whole "if you don't try you can't fail". Like that kid in elementary school who didn't want to try in class out of fear of ridicule. They should stick to shitting on movies, I like when they do that. Also yes, I am aware I'm a hypocrite ;*

[@IdkMaybeShawn]

There's really nothing wrong with the release strategy. If it had been a really good movie, we'd all be talking about how the marketing decision was brilliant and how this is the future of film.

[@Howhaveyouben]

the problem is that netflix didn't commission a film that would make a good case for ending theaters... they took some piece of shit off the shelf and tried to trick people... Like if Netflix financed a back to the future remake that would be a move to end theaters... if they bought a student film that vaguely deals with time travel with a cameo from christopher llyod they're fucking red box...

[@mrcristaldo]

IdkMaybeShawn Its a hit or miss tactic

[@dantealighieri8403]

IdkMaybeShawn What marketing was there? The only 'marketing' was showing a single trailer in the Super Bowl and saying it was released on Netflix. When I saw that, all I thought was: this movie is going to be so bad, they can't muster a campaign to hype it.

[@notveryniceatall]

​@@dantealighieri8403 Millions of people watch the Super Bowl lol

[@99luc10]

Open House is legitimately the worst horror movie ever. It's not hilariosuly bad like The PeePee PooPoo Man, just the cinematic equivalent of blue balls.

[@frankmerker630]

Is it a remake to the one made by Jag Mundra?

[@toddHoward_]

You always seem to upload right before I tighten the noose

[@grekohmoobybah8284]

Holy shit lol that's hilarious

[@alastair6320]

Todd Howard Port skyrim to Netflix already

[@999monsterjam3]

Mine came pre-tightened.

[@tinyfunnylilcritter1525]

Blat *I T J U S T W O R K S*

[@revelationreflection]

Todd Howard haha you're just checking your phone 'til the very end, tightening the noose with one hand while swiping with the other lol

[@stazz316]

Hi, im red letter media ffs mike youre a god amongst men

[@RevokCronenberg]

The Cloverfield Paradox feels like it was written by an algorithm.

[@diesenutss]

More like a shitposting bot

[@Amateur0Visionary]

Or an algorithm.

[@Yusuke_Denton]

@@christophzeit6282 Your reply feels like it was written by an algorithem.

[@turtleanton6539]

Probably was

[@Sorakeyblademaster37]

That’s basically every Abrams film, isn’t it.

[@deeperthanthedeepest]

Bright seemed to have done well off the back of Will Smith's sheer likability. Many of the things that were forgiven (the bad writing, the excess cheese, the Gary Stu ending, the lack of payoffs to things set up early on, etc.) become unforgivable if you take Will Smith out of the equation.

[@Emem0r]

An Event Horizon re:View would be nice.

[@jeremyshaw1]

They showed nearly every interesting clip from Event Horizon in that 5 second Event Horizon scene. That is the primary problem with that movie.

[@Kleinfurkon]

It would go something like; 'hey there's Morpheus! I applauded when I saw him, coz I reckernized him from another film.' Shot of Brit chick splattering all over the place. The End.

[@ericjamieson]

I think there are like 6 people in the world that like Event Horizon (I'm one of them). It's not perfect but I think it's pretty legit sci-fi horror. It's also amusing to pretend that it's a 40K prequel.

[@Bloodynine606]

Event Horizon is an amazing Paul WS Anderson movie. But it's Paul WS Anderson so by any other director's standards it's terrible.

[@josephmayfield945]

They only do review of movies that are good.

[@BensGamingBlog]

Cloverfield 1: Found Footage Cloverfield 2: Thriller Cloverfield 3: Sci-Fi Horror So Cloverfield 4 should be a Buddy Comedy Romance Film if J.J. Abrahams milks the Cloverfield Cow dry?

[@TJTaylor1996]

BensGamingBlog the next one is a period piece based in world war 2

[@PurposefulPorpoise]

Event Horizon is the prequel to The Matrix and its about Morpheus's crew and how they freed themselves from the matrix by entering the "hell" dimension, which is actually a glitch that once u enter wakes u up

[@PurposefulPorpoise]

scockery i came up with the theory couple years ago but i had it down, ill have to rewatch and get back to u guys. Basically people were going insane from crossing over into The Real and coming back, and agent Smith took control of sam neils character when he went in

[@FrancoisDressler]

That's pretty good. Aren't Sam Neill and Hugo Weaving actual neighbours in real life?

[@commanderkruge]

Above everything else Event Horizont is the reason the Doom movie sucked so much ass. Because when they made Doom some exec went "What do you mean Mars gets invaded from hell via jumpgates? We just did a movie with a warp drive that leads to hell, we can't do that again - change that to genetic experiments at once! And no, I don't care about who did it first!"

[@commanderkruge]

Warhammer did it, Stephen King did it in a short story too - but I really believe the Doom plot for the movie was changed to genetix nonsense, because otherwise it would have been "too similar" to EH for someone.

[@johntrains1317]

Kay

[@Sp4mMe]

The issue was only hiring Chris O'Dowd. Had the movie also included Richard Ayoade ...

[@jasonfenton8250]

Gugu's children died in a fire. Oh, I'm sorry that's horrible. Yeah... It was a fire at, uh, Seaparks. A fire? At Seaparks?

[@michaelharvey75]

It would have been such an easy fix, just turn it off and on again. .

[@JCHauntsman]

Netflix has been the new "straight to video" for a while.

[@JesuSoup]

Haunter! They have had some good shit thought like Strangers Things and Bojack Horseman which is the best animated show I've ever seen also Matt Groening the guy who made the Simpson and Futurama has a new show coming out on Netflix that looks great

[@tastyloaf5487]

@@JesuSoup Ehh, I watched _Disenchantment_ .... it's mediocre at best and unfunny at its worst. Problem is, Matt Groening is no longer the young guy sticking it to popular culture .... .... nowadays, he is popular culture. Bojack Horseman, on the other hand, is fantastic. The perfect way to decomstruct all the "I wanna be famous" crap that reality TV and Social Media have kept alight for over ten years, now.

[@MrJohnlennon007]

F Is For Family and Paradise PD are awesome

[@DanArnets1492]

I don't think I see The Irishman as a direct-to-video film...

[@elobiretv]

​@@DanArnets1492 it was also boring as fuck though.

[@vallytine]

Huh, that'd explain why I never even knew this movie existed. I'm a filthy filthy foreigner so we don't have the superbowl to watch the Ad Marathon for.

[@carolmitchell5328]

You foreigners get out of our comments section, and take your GuGu with you

[@fncsp8466]

*"her parents texted thanks"* lmfao.

[@mick6915]

1:45 'Hi, I'm RedLetterMedia'

[@Marrss____666]

Hey RedLetterMedia, come to visit Fermilab! We can give you tours and maybe a new set for Space Cop 2 ;)

[@johnstephenalbert]

Josh's band Ifihadahifi did a tour of Fermilab a few years ago.

[@Marrss____666]

I had no idea, that's really cool. BTW, I'm serious about people coming over, I work in the lab and besides research I do the underground tours =D

[@frozendilemma]

A Cloverfield crossover with zombies: Night of the Living Cloverfield

[@Emanresu56]

Is J.J. Abrams the new M. Night Shyamalan?

[@Prof_Tickles92]

Emanresu56 HE ONLY PRODUCED THE FUCKING MOVIE! His involvement was minimal

[@TheZbobcat]

That would actually require him to make some movies and not steal movies to make his own

[@CineRanter]

Shyamalan has more creativity in his left testicle than JJ has in his entire filmography

[@fallingintime]

The only thing that is great that is associated with his name(by producer credit) is person of interest. His other shows have a spot in tv pop culture like Lost, alias etc but are ultimately disappointing and dated. Sort of like Joss Whedon

[@linusdn2777]

M. Night is at least unique and interesting...he may not be a consistently great filmmaker...JJ is just the blandest filmmaker ever

[@alkemyst337]

Ah man. Remember theaters?

[@turtleflipper9935]

Hello, IT department? My particle accelerator isn't working properly. Have you tried turning it off and on again?

[@rebolt14]

Crazy how right you guys were about Netflix looking back…

[@supersloth7314]

J J Abrams “Lost”ed it again

[@alexa1591]

Leif Hazelwanter he's such a hack

[@crsmyth4428]

Pandorum is a great space horror movie. Maybe not as focused as something like Alien, but it mixes so many genres and actually pulls it off to some degree.

[@FelipeAlmeidaM]

The arm moving on its own is a ripoff of Galaxy of terror, kinda disappointed you guys didn't mentioned that.

[@kenny7593]

I hope Lightning Fast VCR Repair is also a rental shop because I'm going to need to stop by to rent The Day the Clown Cried from you guys.

[@Dardessia]

Half in the *_MYSTERY BOX_*

[@smjaiteh]

*MYSTERY BOX* 🎁💣

[@crosseightyeight]

Sambou Jaiteh what's inside💥Aw fuck

[@smjaiteh]

Cross88 Surprise, it’s a box office bomb!!

[@ericrinker2741]

I like how 95% of the phone calls to the vcr shop are mr Plinkett

[@timmd8766]

I couldn't stop wondering when watching this movie how a planet is supposed to run out of energy. I mean, the planet looked pretty much the same as it is now and the sun was still there so... What are you running out of? Just put up some more solar panels or wind turbines or nuclear power plants or dams or anything. There's so much potential energy all around you're not going to run out of it anytime soon. And if you're running out of energy don't fucking waste it by driving around the city or let giant window teve screens run while you're moping and not even watching it anyway. Have these people ever heard of bicycles and photos? Geez!

[@timmd8766]

Oil? Oh, is that why they stood in line for gas in the beginning of the movie? They think oil is our only form of energy. Now it makes sense... in a stupid way. Thank you. Now I at least know what the writers were going for even though it's completely idiotic.

[@toweypat]

Tim MD yeah really. Don't they know how to make solar power plants?

[@timmd8766]

Patrick Towey It's the future. They should have SOLAR FREAKING ROADWAYS! Put those solar panels on the road and drive all over them. Energy crisis solved!

[@Randomcorpse]

I remember watching this. Excited by the cast and premise, then it opened a bunch of threads and closed none of them. This movie went so off the rails. Then I immediately forgot it existed, then woke up this morning, six years later, and suddenly remembered it existed for no reason and thought it was strange I never watched a youtube video of people tearing it to shreds.

[@andrewhudson9538]

Another netflix review? this really subverted my expectations

[@uselessslippers8866]

Andrew Hudson would you say that they are breaking.... the conditioning

[@Severi1996]

I didn't expect expectations so this subverted my expectations. Brilliant!

[@volbla]

Well played, my friend. Well played.

[@reefchiefer]

Not clicking, don't care.

[@WWLinkMasterX]

It's disappointing because the original idea had so much potential until they Frankenstein-ed it. Even some of the crazy stuff could make logical sense: -The lady ends up in a wall because the station essentially teleports into the space she was already occupying. -Violent aliens show up at the end because the machine's energy signature is so great that it broadcasts an interstellar signal alerting hostile alien's to earth's location. -That room fills up with water because the other station in an alternate reality crashed into the ocean. (Though, water boils in space, so it freezing was still dumb). But nah, it had to be part of a franchise.

[@brian.jrmontoya3227]

Can we all agree cloverfield and 10 cloverfield lane worked far better as standalone films that kept some things a mystery? As far as new Netflix exclusives go, just stick to devilman crybaby or something else that’s good.

[@brian.jrmontoya3227]

Bocken that’s fine. Sometimes you like stuff sometimes you don’t. I’m fine with someone liking something I didn’t, as long as the person is respectful, then I’m respectful.

[@tiredoffools8929]

Bocken... Have you seen the Movie LIFE? If you enjoyed this..check that movie out.

[@qetuo8446]

there really wasnt as much of a mystery left, it was just hidden. there are videos on it, basically there was an ARG explaining what happened.

[@brian.jrmontoya3227]

WiiFan20XX eh, was pretty bad, but at least it didn’t ruin the movie, at least for me anyways.

[@brian.jrmontoya3227]

WiiFan20XX I wouldn’t say a complete tonal shift, but it did change genre heavily. Maybe this ending sounds terrible coming from me, but why not have her escape from from the house and see something crazy or whatever, but we’re not shown it, we don’t get a crazy space alien air craft, it’s left as a mystery and ends on a very eerie note, with all that we see is a horrified expression, and that’s it.

[@RH1812]

Hello from the future - 5:56 How prophetic Jay

[@thetramp123]

Okja and Meyerowitz Stories are good Netflix movies. Mudbound is okay. I'm not quite as big of a fan of it as most but it tends to be pretty well liked. In the last year Netflix has actually started to put out some solid original films, though they're still dropping some stinkers too.

[@sjbrooksy45]

I'd rather support them taking risks then the next formulaic Summer Blockbuster.

[@CineRanter]

They have The Irishman coming out next year

[@BenightedSouls]

I liked the movie as a good time waster for a rainy sunday afternoon. Nothing too bad, I'm surprised, how good it feels to watch a movie, that hadn't have such a big commercial hype before the release. Suddenly, i just can chill and enjoy movies like this.

[@Case_]

The mention of the "spinning space station attraction" kinda reminded me - first thing that popped into my mind when they showed it for the first time was "this is not how this works". Obviously, I may be wrong, but I don't think the design would work the way the filmmakers seem to think it would. The multiple generated centrifugal forces would surely keep interacting with each other, leading to cyclic shifts in the strength and direction of the resulting force IMO.

[@88franko]

The main thing about this movie is that, It's about family and that's what's important.

[@kmvitell123]

@5:55 "our hope for the death of theaters" .... 2020 got you.

[@lawvos1]

That Disney prediction was on point!

[@milton7763]

Netflix is easy and has been for many years: Movies: sucks ass Series: some absolute gems

[@wompwomp9946]

After binge-watching HitB, still gotta get used to Hot Jay

[@Raven_Frame]

I don't know, I kinda enjoyed Cloverfield Paradox and it's connection to Cloverfield. Though honestly I was more invested in what was happening on Earth than the station, which are the parts that were shot to connect it to Cloverfield. At any rate I can see why someone would not like the way this was handled or directed. Especially when so many parts weren't fully fleshed out, such as the arm.

[@somedudeok1451]

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[@o_o_o_o_o-o_o_o_o_o]

Regardless of whether it was bad or good, Event Horizon is fundamentally superior to this movie and does not deserve to be put on the same level as it. The crucial difference between the two is that Event Horizon had a central premise that made intuitive (though not necessarily scientific) sense, and that its exotic, supernatural-looking events fit into and served its plot. They were spectacles, but they weren't ONLY spectacles; that movie was both an amusement park ride and a story. This movie, as Jay and Mike say, ends up as a mere tour through a carnival attraction, because its cool scenes don't mesh together properly into a solid story. A story can get away with drawing crazy, murderous nonsense from another universe when it establishes that that universe is one characterized by hellish chaos and then continues to respect that fact. But this Cloverfield Paradox story establishes only two very familiar universes, each containing Earth and humans, and so it fails to justify or effectively build upon its various exotic happenings. Does water freeze solid super-fast in the other universe? Do big monsters come out of nowhere there?? But we're supposed to think that that universe is so compatible with the "main" one that a lady could reasonably plan to join a family there, and that the exact same Shepard would work just fine in both universes... in Event Horizon, the alien universe really was so different that it could be a source of monsters, but in Cloverfield, the source of monsters is never established at all. In this setting there COULD be a crazy alien place with truly alien rules, but the story doesn't solidly establish one, or even the possibility of one. Fans have to paper over that problem with wild speculation and vague references to ARGs. Event Horizon, whatever its flaws, was better than that.

[@riversidepark4107]

Jay drinking out of a Star Trek mug? Did Mike and Rich convert him?!

[@spartan3924]

I was happy with this film because I just read a comic called Caliban which had some similar space horror things, except there wasn't any huge plot holes like this film

[@southernstar4353]

mike: netflix is on thin ice with me with their content 2020: cuties

[@DrKarlov1138]

That hope for the death of theaters is true now

[@TwoTown]

Very nerdy Easter egg with The Day the Clown Cried VHS sitting there. Can imagine it's one of Plinkett's favourites!

[@ShoRyuBarbie]

They found it in Jack and Rich's safe, back when the VCR repairshop was their videogame console repairshop.

[@ermonnezza74]

This movie's premise also reminds me of the "Journey to the far side of the sun" aka Doppelganger (1969)

[@duderanch18237]

I am no film conoisseur, nor would I make a good writer/director or anything. But JJ Abrams success in the past decade I find mind boggling, after seeing so many of his films, which either aren't his and blatant plagiarisms, or just downright bad.

[@THEremiXFACTOR]

We're living in an age of really low standards. Nobody's making great blockbusters, so someone like Abrams gets elevated to 'genius' status.

[@duderanch18237]

Can't wait to see the trainwreck Star Wars Episode 9 is. Episode 7 was a carbon copy of 4, but like you all said above, the masses want nostalgia and rehashed crap. Then 8 came out, and Rian Johnson blatantly stated JJ had no concrete plans for a story past Episode 7... HOW DOES THIS TRILOGY GET GREENLIT? Disney knew this and didn't care? They're making it up as they go along and no one cares? Episode 8 was a joke, and the story story still has not explained anything. Episode 9 is gonna be baaaaaad lol.

[@THEremiXFACTOR]

duderanch18237 The thing is, Lucas probably wasn't entirely sure where he was going with the original trilogy, and came up with story ideas as he went. The difference is that he and his team were much smarter than the people (for example, Rian Johnson's 'story group') who are working on the current movies. I'm aware that Lawrence Kasdan worked on TFA, but he's probably lost some of his edge since 1980 and he had no input into TLJ anyway.

[@duderanch18237]

XFACTOR - Ish. When Lucas wrote Episode 4, there was no "lore" to speak. He didn't owe us anything, and no one knew if it was going to be a hit or not. It was his baby, and he wrote a classic that spawned two great films after it. 1. TFA was guaranteed to be the first film in the third trilogy. They should have some basic ideas. 2. TFA and the new trilogy continue the story from the end of ROTJ. Which leads to: 3. Who is the First Order? Why are they powerful? Who is Snoke? Why is he powerful? Why is Luke a spineless coward that was going to kill his nephew in his sleep? Why is Han Solo a smuggler again for 30 years since the Battle of Endor? Who is the Resistance? Why are they so weak? What happened since ROTJ? Why were the powers that be not ready for this? So I think mine your arguments go kind of hand in hand. Lucas had a good team, and a little more leeway because they was no established story. JJ and Rian Johnson get no pass from me - they can't answer a single question from my number 3. And that is embarrassing. These films make the prequels look amazing.

[@THEremiXFACTOR]

duderanch18237 Yeah, I agree. It's very poor storytelling.

[@HConstantine]

The person stuck in the wall--wasn't there something like that in an old science fiction film called the 4-D man (with Ray Milland, maybe?)

[@shaggycan]

JJ Abrams is the Frank Dux of Producing/Directing.

[@EPWillard]

I kind of assumed the arm wasn't actually severed exactly but still attached to his counterpart and just stuck in this universe

[@TonyP_Yes-its-Me]

I saw 10 Cloverfield Lane in the cinema, and when the reveal happened at the end , the audience actually got angry. I heard cries of "What a load of shit!", and "For fuck's sake!". The woman sitting next to me said to her husband, "Is this a joke? You made me sit through THAT?"

[@chrisbrown113096]

Me from the future 2021. I can confirm , theaters are in trouble lmao

[@Thanatos2k]

This movie title is brilliant - the Cloverfield paradox is how you can get people to watch movies in a franchise despite all those movies being terrible and having nothing to do with each other!

[@discjockeye]

That Little Kid that the Husband saves was like the one in Godzilla (2014) It didn't need to be there, and is just there for the character

[@adamjung6104]

Thanks for showing only tbe best clips of event horizon... You know the ones that gave me permanent nightmares when I was 10 years old.

[@TheNinjaSpaceman]

Space women with dead kids is becoming a trope. Ellen Ripley, Sandra Bullock in gravity and now Gugu Mc-Raw

[@factotums]

Mike, the lab is called CERN and it is sort of in Switzerland but it's so large that it passes through Italy and maybe France too. Anyway they take particles and shoot them around this massive loop so that they can get up to speeds approaching the speed of light. Then the particles collide and the debris is observed. They do it this awkward way because there isn't any other method to dissect something so small. It would be like Klingons trying to figure out what an automobile is made of by crashing two of them together really fast and then going through the mess of parts left behind. I thought you might appreciate a scientific explanation.

[@rafedidomenico]

That isn't the only particle accelerator in the world

[@factotums]

@@rafedidomenico Wow. Six years ago. Funny thing is I've thought about this comment in recent years because I thought the Klingon metaphor was clumsy and could have been phrased better or more accurately. But you're right, CERN or the LHC isn't the only particle accelerator in the world, although it is the largest.

[@TomJones-op9nj]

Wasn’t the large hadron collider on line when this review came out? It would have been a better reference….but you guys kill it….keep it up….would love to see some more Mr. Plinkit reviews …the character is brilliant and the humor is highbrow presented in a lowbrow way ….awesome

[@elderlycookingenthusiast1188]

Rich Evans and JJ Abrams sound exactly alike.

[@ekx5120]

The collider plot was also used in a book turned TV show called Flash Forward, instead of different universes, the world becomes aware of their own selves, but twenty years or so in the future, as the title suggests. Or are they just dead? I see what you did JJ.

[@glp4477]

People are slowly waking up to J.J and his MISERY BOXES.

[@Nasmr1]

The cloverfield paradox got me so fucking mad because the entire online ARG mystery behind the cloverfield monster was so fucking intriguing. Involving shady the Tagruato company and the massive web of clues around it had loads of us going full Charlie "pepe silvia" on the internet. Instead it was all "fucking wormhole space magic" wrapped up in a huge fucking rip off of Event Horizon and The Mist

[@andrewwebb7584]

It was basically Cube 2: Hypercube IN SPACE!

[@michaelc9818]

So, like, when is the announcement list for the RLMU movies releasing? I wanna see how many times I'll get to watch an alcoholic, an alcoholic, and a diabetic go on wacky adventures!

[@Denim9330]

I liked it. The distribution was pretty sweet. I def agree that it feels like direct to video, but it was a pretty good sci-fi type movie. Also the room/room thing was hilarious. You got a subscribe from me for that.

[@Bacteriophagebs]

Netflix is, as Mike said briefly, just looking for genres where there is demand that's not being catered to by the major production studios. "The Hitman's Bodyguard" was a Netflix Studios movie, released in theaters, and NOT available to stream on Netflix. It made $75 million on a $30 million budget. It was entertaining, though cliche, and like "Bright," it was a buddy-cop movie. I think Netflix realized there haven't been any buddy-cop movies in a looooong time, and some people still want them, so they made some. I only watched "Bright" because I noticed it was directed by the same guy as "End of Watch" and "Fury." Bright was also entertaining, and did some fun things with the fantasy elements, but was still at its core just a buddy-cop movie. All buddy-cop movies are basically the same, and it's only the execution that distinguishes them. In the case of "Bright," I think it was just too weird for most people. It was too fantastic to be a good cop movie, and too realistic to be a good fantasy movie. People, especially critics, like their movies to fit into the little boxes in their heads, and "Bright" just doesn't. Oh, wait, this was a review on that new "Cloverfield" movie. Yeah, I'm with Mike, I don't give two shits about Cloverfield.

[@joshuaheine3090]

Bacteriophagebs THANKYOU CLOVERFIELD SUCKS.

[@The3mbered0ne]

What i don't like about the last 2 cloverfield movies is they have 80% of a standalone film then they shoehorn in the cloverfield monsters at the end and expect the audience to like it while the first one was (one of the first FPP movies) engulfed in the world being affected by the cloverfield monsters, having some lore or origin or reasoning in the last 2 movies would have been nice.

[@gyromurphy]

The review begins around 14:00

[@Oujouj426]

I was optimistic about Netflix's TV shows, and then they cancelled Marco Polo after the second Season. Literally when it started becoming really interesting and had finally found its stride.

[@MrStephenRGilman]

It wasn't great, but it was enjoyable schlock. I liked it. So sue me.

[@theslipknotlobster7794]

Quick rundown of the overarching plot of all 3 movies, the monsters are aliens who are using earth as a giant hatchery, since the monster in the original was killed, it ticked off mom and dad, who then invaded while 10 cloverfield lane was happening, and while the cloverfield space station was in a parallel universe. The monsters arrived while the station was in the parallel universe, and no, none of this explanation is actually in the movies. (Also there's about an 8 year gap between the first and second movie, so global resource shortages weren't really a topic of discussion)

[@rearview2360]

Mystery BOOOOOOOOX

[@robheath22]

Jay with the coffee mug for the win

[@MacCoy]

the phone isnt CONNECTED!....THE PHONE...... ISNT CONNECTED?.....plinket is a brain ghost?

[@mikeoyler2983]

There is no shortage of quality scripts. There is no studio willing to buy them and no director willing to make them.

[@reefchiefer]

In 10 cloverfield Lane when the girl finally tries to escape she sees 'help' scratched into the glass on the escape hatch, implying that there had been others kept in the bunker before. In paradox when the husband is texting a friend that you never see, they head to the bunker from 10 Lane and you immediately assume the person he was texting was John Goodman's character from 10 Lane. At this point, I also assume that the lost girl that the husband had rescued may end up being the girl that originally scratched 'help' on the hatch after the husband leaves and John Goodman's character comes back.

[@lKeikun]

This, I pretty much though that was the only cool tie in with the other movies, surprised they missed it.

[@somedudeok1451]

I doubt that, because these movies all take place in alternate dimensions tied together by the same event: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqaYn4dpZc5jeqM

[@reefchiefer]

pattypat shit! Good catch! Well then fuck all of them except the original cloverfield!

[@seppingtondestamina9398]

Totally different bunker.

[@ErikBernhardt]

I actually kinda liked the arm thing. I thought the idea was that it was the arm of the character in the parallel universe, and was being manipulated by the other-version of the guy, kinda like a phantom limb thing.

[@greeniegreens7737]

Watch the new movie The Ritual. I thought it was a decent movie with some very creepy moments.

[@nickdoerr2517]

Agreed. I enjoyed it, and I think it ended exactly when the movie should've ended.

[@jsh31425]

fwiw: Gugu Mbatha-Raw is one of the stars of "San Junipero", not only (imo) the best episode of Netflix's Black Mirror, but the most interesting, well-written and emotional piece of science fiction I've seen in years. If you don't know it, Mike and Jay, do watch it!

[@AStrategyGameDev]

I honestly love when Mike talks about star wars

[@Gencoil]

This movie was like Poltergeist in space, just a series of scenes with random weird shit happening around every corner.

[@ecognitio9605]

I'd do Gugu's Mbathu Raw ;)

[@alfredvalrie5541]

E Cognitio 😂

[@Gnabba]

Not bad.

[@Lavender_enjoyer]

that makes one of us

[@shaggycan]

If they had made Bright a Shadowrun film it probably have done better.

[@taoisimdrunkard]

jay drinks his coffee with two hands!