Half-Life 2: Deathmatch - What Went Wrong?

[@ratlobber]

update 11/15/2024: they kind of fixed it. you should still watch this video though. Lol.

[@BasedOwl]

update 11/19/2024: i just ate a burger that was really good

[@coronelfalk]

update 11/19/2024 stream 867 by this is the glasshouse

[@ivyprofenall]

update 11/24/2024: i ate a cold slice of pizza and it tasted bad

[@Your_Average_Stickman_WasTaken]

update 11/25/2024: number 15: burger king foot lettuce

[@No-ut1dn]

update 25/11/2024: I almost drank my bottle of mead, now im sad😢

[@quinnjohnson9750]

Honestly for me, the jankiness of HL2DM is what I love about it. Really goofy and floaty. Much like how old TF2 use to be along with CSS back in the day, no so serious or competitive, just good old fun. Which makes me sad as most of the games I grew up with are either dead or CSGo/CoD competitive wanna be's. Makes me sad that we can't have fun any more in games and how its all about that kill streak, your team getting to some championship or proving to be the best 360 no-scope player around and trying to speed run the game. Makes me sad that fun isn't allowed any more in games and how its all serious e-sports and speed runs now.

[@notahooper]

bro same but last time me and my friend tried to hop on some random joined and proceeded to lecture us on the "meta" of hl2dm and kept being super snobby about how we were goofing around like way to turn away the only two other people that were playing that day lmaoo

[@greyish7212]

There's a plenty free trash on Steam like SCP: Secret Lab or Fistful of Frags to name a few. Problem solved.

[@rulebreaker666]

competitive means "who's got better cheats" right now. (ex CSGO faceit lvl10, quitted this piece of garbage 4ever and happy)

[@Sharkwedge]

True And if you try to play for fun and a bit serious you get kicked. For not beeing super goofy or cringe. Or you want to talk with other players Years ago well possible Now every second lobby is full with memeing screaming kids and childish grown ups.

[@rswindol]

I remember it being janky, but it was too much fun to not play. Bunny hopping around and sniping people with the gravity gun was so much fun. It's a shame it didn't get much support from Valve, because they could've kept it alive longer.

[@brendan5260]

My dad and his friends loved this game. When he was disabled towards the end of his life he would just spend hours on it. He was the most amazing fighter I’ve ever seen. After he died, I was old enough to play myself and actually compete, there’s so few servers around, it wasn’t long before I wandered into their old server and met all his friends. They were all just as good. They were so fast, I still can’t keep up with them. I have no idea how they do it. It must be the years of experience in the source engine.

[@jacobtouchton]

It's an art bhopping on hl2dm

[@dawg4304]

yay new rodent abuser video

[@shaeshizzle1091]

What

[@zalabit927]

🗿?

[@Futur3.]

Yes!!!! New mouse thrower video

[@erikerikerikerikerik]

@@shaeshizzle1091 rat is a rodent and lobbing one would be abusing it

[@pilsnerd420]

I had no idea he was Logan Paul

[@Crowlivia32]

In middle school (circa 2013) my friends and I would spend hours and hours on long dead HL2DM servers with low gravity playing gravgun, revolvers, and crossbows only. Many lengthy and (to a pre-teen) deep conversations were held over those matches. That shit rocked.

[@ratlobber]

sounds pretty zased

[@Bright-Space-Frontier]

If Killbox means anything to you, you defiantly thought you were some top tier gravity slayer. I used to run a clan off a listen server I would boot up with my at the time top notch gateway computer lmao. There was just a handful of us but it was the best.

[@peppy6052]

early gmod lol somehow that still sounds fun

[@shillian4770]

@@ratlobberHamsandwich

[@zeezao8196]

Yeah the possibilities of interaction was fascinating

[@E2wqpXcGGnLtJHbVXDhS3]

Garrys Mod was made off Half Life 2 : Deathmatch's code base so its not surprising to learn that gamemodes were played but still interesting that such gamemodes were played so early during deathmatch's lifecycle

[@milanknezevic7652]

But were the gamemodes played?

[@Liar587]

That kind of explains why gmod is so God darn broken

[@JamesTDG]

@@Liar587 Hopefully if we get a source 2 version of GMod, things will change...

[@Liar587]

@James TDG well, S&box is about to come out

[@GAG091186]

Maybe we will get a new HLDM with S&box, the source 2 version of GMod?

[@maverickmuff1601]

Have played 5,000 hours of HL2DM since 2004. Played a lot of RP, Co-op, deathrun, Puzzle maps. It was fucking phenomenal! Definitely is actually my favorite game of all time.

[@sillzsurprize4452]

Same man Loved the puzzle maps.

[@aboveaveragebayleaf9216]

Played it for the first time a few months ago. Me and my buddy got our asses kicked, but we had a blast. With how small the population is I wouldn't be shocked if you were in the server. I need to play it again sometime.

[@TimberWulfIsHere]

Coop maps where just so damn good. Some of the best fun you could have in multiplayer with tons of players and enemies everywhere.

[@mongolia1279]

Any servers you’d recommend today?

[@ProjectInsight44]

@@mongolia1279Bouncyball and Saigns

[@richardhafer]

My first ever shooter game was Half-Life 2: Deathmatch when I was like 4 or 5 years old I started watching my brother play it. He was around 20 at that time and used to live in our Basement lol and he played it daily. Eventually I asked him if I can play it, and so I did. Was a lot of fun, i got destroyed obviously, but still! We kind of took turns, switch every map After a while my brother went to the "Bundeswehr" (German armed forces) here in germany (i was like 6-7 at that time) so he rarely was home, maybe sometimes on weekends, that always made me sad, but he never took his PC with him obviously so i could play half life 2 deathmatch and other source games all on my own and that was so cool to have freedom and explore the pc gaming world for the first time as before I had never really played video games anyway. My brother is doing well now, he has his own apartment, wife, job, everything well for him. Half-life 2 deathmatch has a special place in my heart and I miss some people that I met on there and now don't know what/where they are up to. Got my own PC recently and I still play it, rarely, just whenever i feel like it.

[@richardhafer]

Also guys I recommend the server "Zeitgeist" on half life 2 deathmatch. It's my favorite! you can switch models, there's funny say sounds, and there are some special abilites you can use but you have to grind to actually get them and give you a little advantage over others (other than skill xd) and it also has improved/faster movement and it doesn't feel janky at all unlike the vanilla movement. There's tons of maps and they are all usually high quality and most important of all its your classic deathmatch mode. No capture the flag or some other shit, its just killing others :)) but they do have another server on team deathmatch mode instead im mentioning all of this since the video said, most servers are bad or weird, so I decided i recommend it

[@watermelonmel8299]

@@richardhafer Zeitgeist is great :D also Socal #1 is another good one which has custom models, sounds, and good movement (boosted acceleration) which is also quite fun

[@yungmattyk]

When I was a kid Id play HL2:DM for hours just cuz I liked having the sounds that combine had when walking lol

[@dojodog]

Kelly Bailey's excellent sound design echoes through our memories

[@Deadflower20xx]

I liked that but also hated it since it gave away your location, making picking rebels the objectively better choice if you're looking to do well. Even though I wanted to play as cool looking combine :( So it was cool but...poor choice gameplay wise. It would be like if TF2 gave the BLU team 5% bigger hit boxes for no reason. Not game breaking but a hindrance nonetheless.

[@FlickazSwag]

its badass asf

[@protennis365]

Don't forget the mod we're the best.

[@n646n]

@@Deadflower20xx Just like how it gives away their location in singleplayer. Another weird effort to make it canonical

[@MaDKrEvEdKo]

Nothing went wrong imo. It was a blast that found it's audience, especially with custom game modes.

[@Robster881]

Lowgrav kill box with nu metal playing in the background was a huge part of my childhood. That shit was lit.

[@kirkuleetz]

HL2DM is still in my opinion one of the more technical shooters that have existed. From speedskating and strafejumping to crossbow bounces, grav catches and speedballing. Though it's dead now, it would be great to see a genuine successor!

[@KapitanWasTaken]

Ah, HL2DM, the game I spent a lot of time back in 2006-2008 playing only the puzzle maps which required everyone on the server to finish usually about 10 puzzles/minigames/parkour type stages to win.

[@Voodoo_One]

Same. Still every couple months check out a running puzzle server. Sometimes a couple of folks go on Was playing on Rosettensprengers Schwanzwaldklinik back in the day.

[@unr34L-]

HL2DM is literally one of the best DM arena movement shooter games made, A_Seagull and lots of other quake/TF2 pros played it competitively back in the day, A_Seagull’s infamous comp demo is still one of the most infamous pieces of skill shown in HL2DM to this day. (HL2DM has uncapped Bhop speed btw, one of the only source games left to have it fully besides L4D2.)

[@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413]

no it isnt, the gunplay is incredibly mediocre, this games popular map doesnt live up to the original crossfire, the gravity gun feels terrible to use and overall, its a downgrade from hldm

[@wm1573]

definitely not lol, but its a classic yeah

[@hozic9929]

@@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 honestly as a guy that got experience with hl 2 deathmach its anything but mediocre

[@therealquaz]

What was your game name unreal?

[@shizw1919]

Best arena movement shooter games made? Please tell me youre joking lmao

[@dojodog]

I actually regularly return to HL2DM at least once a month or so. I set up a server to play sessions with my friends and with a couple plugins (infinite sprint, hitsounds, modified damage values) and it's a blast!

That sound fun, I will look into those mods next time I gather my friends to play. I always think on ways to improve the gameplay but never get arround to do the research.

[@YRon2y]

That actually sounds like fun! I always think to myself that sprint kinda anoys me when u get out of breath.

[@charlibiris]

Thats a phat lie and you don’t even have friends

[@BuzzingMeat]

@@charlibirisyou his therapist or something?

[@charlibiris]

@@BuzzingMeat I am the rapist

[@matts.6234]

I played HL2DM a lot in the mid to late 2010's, and had a lot of fun with it. Learning to yo-yo grenades is like learning to rocket jump in TF2, and once you get good at it you're really powerful. In my gaming I met the owner of the oldest running server on Steam, one that started in 2004 shortly after the release of the game. I played this server for several months and befriended him a year or two before he passed. As far as I'm concerned, SoCal #1 is the best server on HL2DM, and he made a real community there. Someone always seems to be on and ready to play, and as they say "it's a great day to be alive and on SoCal #1!".

[@YRon2y]

I'll remember that, maybe i'll join if the' server is still up?

[@Roderik95]

He died? Damn it. Rest in piece. Was he an older gentleman or something happened?

[@JoshN0S]

I played on Socal too, never got to meet him, but I stopped playing due to personal relations strained by a mutual friend with someone else, that then ruined two friendships.

[@Xeogin]

@@YRon2y The server is alive and well

[@cosmicpanda7043]

The bromance between you and Richter never fails to warm my heart

[@siwnares_]

do you think they explore each others' bodies

[@cosmicpanda7043]

@@siwnares_ I don't think they're that far along yet. We've likely still got a couple more gmod rp sessions before the bromance evolves into romance

[@stupidsockhead]

man what the fuck 💀

[@siwnares_]

@@cosmicpanda7043 wait they do gmod rp?

[@notnullptr]

@@cosmicpanda7043 gmod rp to gmod "rp" ;)

[@iPodiMaster]

05:33 - now that is masterclass audio mixing, every editor should take notes From a calm and leveled voice to a tinnitus inducing one

[@nonrefundablegaming275]

I kinda wish he kept that tone through the entire video

[@sebaprime6411]

Pretty sure that's Richter Overtime's voice

[@KIWIDOGGIE]

Wake up guys new ratlobber

[@arkaidov]

what if i dont want to wake up

[@cloud9-z5z]

@@arkaidov just shut up and sleep

[@loleq2137]

Dudee, I'm so down for lobbing rats today!

[@MFP4073]

Nothing. The game just lived it's time, like Quake did. It's not a live service game and didn't receive any more or less important updates except the ones on the launch. It lived it's time gracefully and simply retired.

[@Tws5515]

Hl2dm was wild. And having the community making maps was amazing, too.

[@TheDeathmatchKlan]

We still have a community making maps lol, we just had a big map contest.

[@energeticyellow1637]

I kinda wish I was around to experience it. Was way too young to be playing multiplayer games at its peak lol

[@wolfcl0ck]

Speaking of consistent quality, I gotta say your editing style is off the goop.

[@ratlobber]

thanks Wolf C. Lock

[@cool_username07]

hi wolfvl0ck

[@unr34L-]

Hey look it’s the deranged troon leaker who data hordes because u have no other type of self worth

[@cool_username07]

@@unr34L- nuh uh

[@unr34L-]

@@cool_username07 yea just goto the tyler mcvicker thread on the farms, hes a disgusting person as much as tyler

[@SpookyMisterBones]

Met my best friend of 15 years in HL2DM. Spent a lot of time on The Chapel, if anyone here played in the summer of 2009.

Damn I have demo recordings since 2009, I had to get a pirated version old enough to play them back just to check what I did back then.

[@Xavior212]

I basically grew up on The Chapel/The Monastery... I miss it pretty often. Really great times!

[@SpookyMisterBones]

@@Xavior212 Bunch of characters there. Jeff, Caleb, Noobcake, Companion, etc. Sad its gone.

[@bernardtwiggy2510]

@@SpookyMisterBones dude I’m noobcake who is this I lost access to my steam account years ago ask me anything

[@SpookyMisterBones]

@@bernardtwiggy2510 Bruh what? No way. This is Vengence. So that "2 Finger Steve" dude is just some hijacker? No wonder you never added me back lol.

[@cartervandenberg4771]

I loooved HL2 Deathmatch co-op maps, they were always so over the top ridiculous and for a while felt like the closest I'd ever get to more Half Life after Episode 2 came out. So many memories...

[@angel_aeon]

"Imagine it's 2003" Shit I'm very excited for my most important life event of being born.

[@Jacox98]

You weren't playing Half-Life and Counter-Strike in the womb? Wow you're lame

[@ElHeffJeff]

stop making me feel old. I'm not even old yet!!!

[@xalener]

too young to remember 9/11, old enough to fight in the conflicts it triggered

[@Sdoots]

Look at the baby y'all

[@angel_aeon]

@@Sdoots I'm literally turning 20 this year lmao but I'd rather someone call me young so thank you.

[@zarkflappysheep]

Loving your soundtracks lol. I’ve had that first track on my playlist for a while

[@Luka2000_]

Honestly half life 2 deathmatch was really fun to play with friends. Just hop on after a long day and have fun non stop

[@thelo-fidelityarchive597]

I used to play so much HL2:DM back around 2006-2009. It was jank as all hell and with severely unbalanced weapons, but it wound up being my most played Valve multiplayer game of all time that wasn't a mod like Zombie Panic or Pirates, Vikings, & Knights 2. It's sad to see it all but die, but it's also unsurprising given it was on community life support.

[@theleetworldbest]

Hey, whatever happened to PVK2 and ZmP? I know AOC is pretty dead today, but those two?

[@thelo-fidelityarchive597]

@@theleetworldbest Not a clue sadly, I haven't played it since at least 2010.

[@DanielAnderssson]

@@theleetworldbest PVK2 is alive and still receiving updates. A new pirate tank class is in the making

[@OmarShtaiwi_]

That Richter jumpscare tho, amazing content as usual.

[@goodshowmanythanks]

Why he 10 times louder than rat 💀

[@jrod98z]

HL2:DM back in 06-08 was literally god tier. Playing the puzzle maps and co-op missions on full servers made it the best ever.

[@MCcreedLP]

Damn...the good old days. It made so much fun back then.

[@akittu]

I miss HL2DM. I would still actually get on it from time to time. But there's just so many empty servers

[@captainofthesky8890]

Half life 2 death match was my childhood. When I first played half life 2 as a child I was completely blown away by the physics, the graphics, and the scenery of it all. I spent most of my childhood playing build servers like the monastery and phoneburnia. Being able to mess with the physics engine were some of my most fond memories. And being given source sdk at the time was like a dream come through and I spent years learning how to build custom maps and being able to play them. I miss what hl2dm was and I boot it up from time to time just to see where it is now and I have to agree it aged like milk lol

[@Whomobile]

I use to play a lot of puzzle maps on hl2:dm around 2009 and even then the game was quite dead

[@Voodoo_One]

Me too, also way before. There is still a server up, but most of the times empty. Had some hours fun with 3-5 strangers . Nostalgia hit hard

[@skornie123]

Yo that intro demo-like menu screen was so good^^

[@LeoFuso]

Oh, dude. Back in 2008/2009 my graphics card went bad and the only thing in my steam library that was playable (besides the valve titles in GoldSrc) was half life death match. I've ended up putting more than 300 hours on it. The community in Brasil (my country) had only two or three servers, with modified maps, but to enhance the death match aspect of it, not to mess around with gravity and stuff and oh boy, I had such a good time playing it. The competitive scenario was active as well. The gravity gun was responsive and even enabled some advanced moves like launching the combine energy ball and switching quickly to the gravity gun to grab it before it was released into an enemy and directing it to other target. Same with granades. Honestly, the laser mines was used just to troll people. The op weapons was 357 and crossbow. Two 357 shots or two arrows and almost any player was dead (depending on its HEV). There were entirely made maps just to snipe with 357. Such good times :( Every one knew how to bhop, too. And we taught each others. There were maps just to train bhops. I remember I made my first friends online while trying to learn bhoping after Midnight. Every half life content is this platform deserves a praise, and your video isn't an exception of it, but I'm sorry you didn't had the opportunity to play HL2DM on its peak.

[@KidzX_Offical]

5:28 when the nerd takes off his glasses:

[@ArcadeStriker]

I was already lured in by the topic, editing style and the intro, but hearing Ace Driver Victory Lap music at the first minute really sold me in

[@UpToSpeedOnJaguar]

The OG day of defeat and day of defeat source were GOATED. no one can convince me otherwise. Alien swarm wasn't bad either.

[@Xavior212]

I always felt like HL2DM was great because of the community servers with custom gamemodes/plugins. I spent most of my time on The Chapel/The Monastery/The Yaypit which was a build server with their own custom plugin. If you spent enough time on the server, you could apply to get access to special abilities like a select/translate/rotate/snap system for objects, a beam that could move any physics object (basically a more rigid GMod physgun), or even noclip. All of these special abilities enabled people to get really creative and build cool stuff. They also had a huge list of fun custom commands that anyone could use: like changing your player model to a tree, using a "jetpack", or my favorite the "grapple hook". I remember trying to scrap together a console command exec script which would spawn a beer bottle that exploded like an explosive barrel when it broke. When it finally worked, I was a very excited 13 year old. It's moments like that which I think inspired me to go on to write software professionally. Some people built really crazy stuff, while others just hung out and chatted. Good times on baron_mag2 with someone blasting "Champagne Supernova" by Oasis over voice chat using the program HLDJ. I always felt a really strong sense of community and made several good friends while I was there. At some point the HL2DM server shut down and they tried to move to TF2, but the server wasn't nearly as popular as it once had been. I believe they eventually moved back to HL2DM until finally deciding to shut down all servers.

[@thiefyisnear5253]

Just an idea, try using compression and a limiter so that way there's not a huge difference in volume between voices.

[@matturner6890]

Was about to say this

[@matturner6890]

@svchii yes it is lol

[@novelezra]

Damn that's a good RichterOvetime impression. Sounds just like him.

[@B.M.Skyforest]

I still play it. It's a fun game :) and luckily for me, I play it on unmodified server with less than 10 ping. It doesn't have much people, maybe 2-3 in the evening if lucky, but it's just enough to have fun after a hard day. Of course better days of this game are long passed.

[@WakeUpUniverse66]

Its funny because Half-life 2 still has better physics than a large majority of games that come out today, it would be interesting to see what a competitive shooter based around the gravity gun would be like. I like the idea of using objects to block gun fire and risk vs reward when holding an object that's big but slows you down and is easy to dodge. Hopefully it wouldn't be like fortnite but you can maybe move things to bunker down. Have default G gun spawns and you have to get weapons on the map like old Halo 3 multiplayer.

[@flintfrommother3gaming]

Half-Life 2 physics are shit tho. It doesn't even compare to physics we have today. The ones we still have sucks due to less incentive for physics compared to graphics but still not as bad as HL2.

[@thatdudemetro6271]

@@flintfrommother3gaming What game today has the interaction level and physics of half life? I don't recall modern warfare 2 allowing you to pick up props and use them as a makeshift cover. Half Life does have flaws but its better then most games today.

[@unbanquackityishot327]

@@thatdudemetro6271 You could bring up a game like half life alyx and its sweet physics but nooooo how about an arcade shooter where physics do not matter ah

[@thatdudemetro6271]

@@unbanquackityishot327 Seems like you misunderstood. I never specified one half life game i ment half life as a whole. My mention of modern warfare was a response to the dude due to hes attitude.

[@thatdudemetro6271]

@@unbanquackityishot327 I would also like to mention that alyx does not count as it is part of half life and made by the same devs that made the past games. So it was expected that it would be a FIRE of a game.

[@marimeme]

I spent a lot and lots of time in my childhood playing Celmod (if anybody still even remembers it by now), I also loved playing puzzle maps and roleplaying, it was quite the magical experience before Garry's Mod.

[@ThatTravGuy]

I didn't know what to expect from this video, but this was great

More notes, the map with teleporters is a cut map that got released when the steam pipe update rolled out, The next one is something a beta entusiast and a long hl1 player should note, the map steam labs uses an old version of Kleiner lab thats present in the leaked hl2 map sources and also reuses parts of datacore from hl1. Crazy that it got accepted to be part of the game. Also the special mention of dm_avalon not making the cut to be included in the mapping contest for being too far from cannon should be noted.

[@ratlobber]

If i'm not mistaken SteamLab was made by Jess Cliffe, so it's not super surprising

@@ratlobber Thats nuts if its true, but it would make sense to be made in house, since it uses some textures that are custom for that map alone that are packed in the hl2dm files, I believe they are also present in the leak but Im not sure.

[@d3sp3r4t3]

i remember how i’d stare at the clock in school, excited for the day to end so i could play some hl2dm. i spent my whole pre-teen years and teen years on that game. i’ve probably played it all. from vanilla dm (where i sucked) to random russian puzzle servers to coop (bouncyball server>>>>) to more puzzle (miyu’s funbox, i’m still an admin there and love to pop up every once in a while) to deathmatch (still play it) man, i miss the old times tho.

[@mobilemarshall]

hl2 deathmatch was fucking amazing, fantastic game

[@gunsepsi2852]

Back in the day, I used to hang out and play with some really skilled players in HL2DMU. We weren't officially part of the competitive scene, but these guys were well-known for their skills. Let me tell you, what we did in terms of competitive FPS was absolutely insane and would have been perfect for the esports scene. I'm talking about players bunny hopping at 200 km/h, pulling off crazy crossbow trick shots from halfway across the map, and even learning specific spots to bounce the bolt off walls to get kills. The movement mechanics were like nothing else I've ever seen, combined with some seriously precise aiming, and everyone was legit. It was unreal, and I miss it so much. HL2DMU was like a whole genre within HL2DM, it was essentially the esports of HL2DM, and it's a shame it's gone now.

[@MixGaming25]

I have been a part of hl2 community for over 10 years, and only recently have i started playing hl2 deathmatch. I love that game so much, now i play it daily on a server with 5-9 players but they are all regulars like me and i love it so much. I will play this rather than csgo..

[@Dinnerboneearthmover]

This is a really nice video, also the first song you used (yes I know its the unreal tournament music) is my fortnite lobby music

[@Jude_FPS]

I first played masterpiece back when I was like 6 or 7 years when I made friends with a kid down the road from my house at park and his older brother brought the game a little while after and we used to play this game all weekend and everytime after school taking turns after each map. This game was all I could think about the amount of fun you could have was limitless, joining a server and dominating everyone. Best game ever made, best time of my life HL2DM FOREVER ❤️

[@Uberkist]

I still help run one of the last RP servers on HL2:DM, Cold Community. Our bonds from 19 years of gaming run thicker than blood!

[@TheDeathmatchKlan]

Cold community still great as ever, good to see it still being updated and looked after like that. -Python

[@V-95K]

Imagine what HL2DM would have been if valve had interest in it 😩 especially today, with all the skins, outfits, lootboxes etc.

[@j4ff4c3ks1]

My fondest memory of HL2DM were those puzzle maps where the entire server with 40-some players was trying to solve a series of rooms like airboat obstacle courses and other stuff to collect a bunch of batteries and win the map

I still play a lot hl2dm with my friends when we get toguether to play in lan (since 2007 give or take), it just does not feel the same in gmod and I still make maps or remakes of dm maps. I would love the game to be fix good enough and have workshop support added for maps. It would be great if the community created a proyect to get it all fix up and then demanded the changes to be added to the game, kinda like HL2 Update but added to the base game.

[@bannanafruitsalad]

Who's arguing day of defeat wasn't good? Unpopular, sure but it's always been really fun

[@phillipjfry6]

hl2dm was my introduction to source multiplayer and i spent a good portion of my high school years playing it nonstop. there were promos back in 07-09 that gave you the game for free if you had an amd or nvidia gpu and that definitely played a part in building its playerbase back then. i was mostly into surf and killbox maps but even vanilla dm was so satisfying before the OB engine update. being able to sprint on top of your movement speed not being limited by whatever weapon you're currently holding made it the perfect playground for bhopping and advanced movement. the gravity gun's main utility in this game was not epic xD toilet kills, but for catching grenades midair to cook to perfection and throw at enemies. watch a pro player pull off an crossbow ricochet shot or curve a rocket around map geometry to wipe out an entire group of people and you'll get a sense of the depth players were able to bring to the game that valve probably never even intended. in addition to completely trashing the movement and netcode, the OB engine update also broke pretty much every bespoke server plugin simultaneously and a lot of them were never updated to work with the new engine. They also made shotgun pellet damage RNG for no conceivable reason, taking one of the best weapons in the game and making it near useless. There was a mod that ported hl2dm to the new engine while fixing all of these issues, but it sadly never really took off and the changes were never implemented by valve. Take a look at the HL2DM:OB steam group to get an idea of the community attitude towards the update at the time. Within less than a year after the update, most clans had either shut down or became inactive and stopped paying for server hosting. the community was definitely the strongest aspect of the game. the competitive scene was full of characters and overall the vibe of the game was more friendly and less toxic than something like CS. i befriended a bunch of mappers, server regulars, and randos and still talk to many of them to this day. overall good game 1/10

[@Voodoo_One]

I agree. The OB Engine update also broke a lot of the good old Zombie Mod and especially Death Run servers. ZM doesn't felt similar to before, DR never came really back. Weren't my main game modes, but still sad to have them gone back then. Also in HL2DM loved to play mainly only puzzle mod, those weren't effected that much. But people moved on to other games anyways after 2010

[@CyborgNinja442]

Yeah, I remember being so massively disappointed in the OB overhaul when they patched hl2dm. I had been actively competing in the STA league in the WRW clan around 04-07 and basically everybody just quit overnight. Servers never recovered, player base quickly devolved into mostly stupid custom game modes because the netcode was so bad there was no point in competitive play. I still played a lot for another 2 or 3 years after that because I was only in high school. I miss the golden days of hl2dm though, by far my favorite online experience ever. I also spent SO many hours on the Rat maps and 2fort ports. Eventually I joined the KBH clan and became the most lethal Killbox player ever.

[@FletcherVHS]

you know it's a good video when foregone destruction plays in the background

[@nightvideoshoots3351]

Nothing went wrong, when I was a child, it’s been my favourite game. And when I be 60 old man, it still favourite game for me.

[@midnitdragoon]

I remember being so excited to play half life 2 death match... I had a blast in half life 1 death match back in the day... All I wanted was for hl2 dm to feel more like hl 1 dm. I remember feeling disappointed with hl 2 dm and wondering why it felt nothing like the first. Once tf2 and day of defeat released... Never looked back to hl2 dm

[@thefantasticdrill788]

I want to live in a ratlobber intro bumper

[@TrustyGun2]

vanilla dm_killbox maps is where I got my source feet

[@OklahomaSwagMaster]

Not showing off the countless numbers of custom maps is a disservice. You needed someone to guide you through that like your tf2 video.

[@disappointedcucumber]

Coincidentally, I played HL2 deathmatch yesterday. It was a lot of fun. The first server I joined (which was also the one that was the most populated) was running vanilla deathmatch. The only real problem I had with the gameplay is that picking things up with the gravity gun and walking around with them never works smoothly, but killing people by throwing shit at them will always be funny so the jankiness didn't bother me that much.

[@OverLineMusic]

HL2:DM was my companion to CS:S since 2006 until 2013, i spent there hundreds of hours playing low gravity maps, revolver servers, crossbow servers, gravgun only servers, joined competitive teams, roleplay and anything in between, we even had a group of +15 people who used to go alltogether to a local Cybercafé and play HL2:DM for countless hours since many of them didn't had a computer or internet connection at home, i can safely say it's been one of the games i had most fun in my life even after the Orangebox patch, it was simple, didn't had many things, but those were simpler times and we used to have fun with much less than now.

[@ZeboUnBoxing]

Even if it's Valve's worst product, I still enjoy it from early childhood into my mid 20s playing the co-op mode that still exists. Used to have huge clans back then running the maps in groups of 5-10 together, was a good time being young. Still nice to boot it up & play it though.

[@grympzofficial1256]

You know when you cough so hard you become richtor overtime? Happens all the time

[@swatss94]

Your editing style is amazing

[@BogdanZelinschi]

Its fine, but imho intros sисks, theyre so strange, i dont like em, outros too

[@WonderlandWarGaming]

8:08 The model is also used to "dispense" manhacks in d1_canals_07.

[@tev5040]

what is the music at 0:42 it goes so hard EDIT: marching for peace - OTE

[@Cynidecia]

This was my first source game. Still remember playing coop_horror, seeing zombies and headcrabs for the first time while people mowed them down.

[@AdRiAnIlloO95]

At first I thought this video would be discussing why the game "died" from a supporting perspective, but then it was against it. I can't believe you can talk that bad about the game, given it's a mod with HL2 vibe after all (and you like HL2, right?). Then, there are two main factors why it's semi-dead: the lack of players and annoying bugs, among which, the most active serious ones having emerged since 2013 updates. Bugs such as broken player model changes (which will also cause player to die if on team Rebels) and the weapon sequences console spam (which wasn't in the past) are noteworthy. Considering these factors, and the generational changes, I can understand new players may get a boring experience of the game. Also, I clearly see the notorious gameplay experience downgrade problem that high latency creates, and how it can retract players (just play on nearby / low ping servers). However, I have to point out a "sad true fact" that's hidden behind the game addiction: once you learn bunny hoping and thus flow faster and smoothly through the maps, you'll start to love the game. However, the key facts for it resulting boring aren't enough to judge that bad this great game. Still, the game can get easily fun if you find the proper server/s more of your liking and players/ambience. Some servers are very polished and well-maintained, result of hard effort by their owners. It's very wrong to opinion about the game without playing enough servers. Here is my server, by the way: steam://connect/adrianilloo.ddns.net:27017 I'm also aiming to create the most advanced HL2RP experience ever seen, from HL2MP base (I'm a modder).

[@ratlobber]

hl2rp is poop ;)

[@Blockrix]

​@@ratlobberits the best answer that i ever seen.......

[@moonmoon4537]

HL2DM was one of my first multiplayer shooters, it taught me how to be a god and headshot people sailing at 110 mph

[@Vercuric]

Wait wait wait. People hated Day of Defeat?

[@WonderlandWarGaming]

hl2dm will always be my favorite hl2 game and favorite multiplayer game of all time. Also the airboat at 9:43 was MY airboat you stole if I remember correctly lol. The main update that broke hl2dm was the steampipe update in 2013, it changed a lot of stuff and it also broke player model selection.

[@jaycie586]

HL2DM is honestly one of my most played Steam games, there's a coop server where you and others just kill fuckton of enemies that I discovered around 7 years ago and I still go there occasionally just to have fun

[@jaycie586]

Also TBH I'd say Half-Life Deathmatch Source is worse, it's a freak combo of HL2DM's problems and HLS's problems

[@nullcoreproject]

@@jaycie586 Valve has many games much worse than hl2dm, this video just kinda feels forced. It's like he played it, got mad cuz he had horrible ping and kept dying, then decided to make this video lmfao.

[@jaycie586]

@@nullcoreproject true, this game isn't bad just...sorta dead although I have this really annoying bug on my PC where the non-rebel human character models are horrifically corrupted so if anyone in a server is using those the game becomes basically unplayable for me, and this is *only* in HL2DM, not base HL2 or GMod but aside from that it's no more buggy than any other Source game lol

share the server

[@Koperpixel]

@@jaycie586 Eh, I personally think Deathmatch Source might be better than GoldSrc Half-Life Deathmatch since to say the least, GoldSrc is kinda shit at multiplayer at least from my experience. Everything feels clunky and unresponsive while on Deathmatch Source everything feels fluid and fun to control. What is weird that the 2 GoldSrc games that don't have this issue for me are Counter-Strike: Condition Zero Deleted Scenes and Deathmatch Classic.

[@icarus2k]

10:18 For years I never realized DarkRP is a play on the term Light RP until you said it like that

[@soup1238]

3:01 the npc has become sentient

[@skatamartin4970]

what went wrong? nothing. HL2:DM is to this day still the most fun game i have played.

[@fica1137]

HL2DM was fire

[@gustav5473]

Can’t wait until Half Life 3: Death Match comes out!!

[@coolkiddo_]

0:28 you missed Artifact

[@Vexcenot]

9:38 I swear Minecraft survival servers fall victim to this as well

[@Joschmo939]

Subscribed for the editing, the great writing, and the Chad Warden PS triple

[@ivory231]

people think day of defeat is bad? what the fuck!

[@ProbablyPossum]

ratlobber superior richter overtime inferior

[@OssyFlawol]

6:19 Wow holy shit the Blobertime said leftover area is that a reference to the Ossy Flawol video known as ‘Those Leftover Areas in Source Games’ no way i am literally pissing

[@jakeman52]

Artifact is the worst valve product. Easy.

[@ratlobber]

now u know that don't count...

[@smailchali5102]

that's the only objectively correct answer

[@UberSpah]

Valve's worst product: Ricochet, Deathmatch Classic, Artifact and HLDMS: Allow to introduce ourselves.

[@julz6077]

lil bro is so tf2 biased

[@de-ment]

BouncyBall EU Co-op and 24/7 Runoff will forever hold a very special place in my heart

[@donkeygladiator]

How u make ur intros/transitions ratlobber? I luv u❤

[@kaanguelten]

you asked the question I was too afraid to ask for some reason. I really wanna know too

[@SamsStupid]

@@kaanguelten he’s said in on discord before it’s vhs filters and blender models He no longer answers the question tho cause so many people asked So yeah blender and editing that’s it hope that helped

[@bamboy420]

TF2 cannot replace the experience of HL2:DM "kill box" maps with low gravity. You have to be careful how you jump because after you do, you can't change your mid-air trajectory. Also "sniping" with props becomes possible and is immensely satisfying.

[@CLSTR_]

HL2DM is the worst valve's product? You didn't play Half-Life Deathmatch: Source.

[@ratlobber]

HLDMS rules though

[@NicoBleackley]

I still play it to this day. I literally got steam back in the day just for this. Bought a physical copy of hl2 episode 1

[@jaykstah]

Got distracted within the first minute bc i will not tolerate any Ricochet slander 😤 great video as always mr. rat

[@harryshuman9637]

Nothing went wrong with HL2:DM, the game had a healthy life and simply died off in the early 2010s due to better games out there.

[@racer927]

I used to love these neat co-op maps I discovered around 2005-6 which I think was before Synergy. One in particular is that you had to make it through a haunted mansion with "ghost" enemies in order to find a treasure chest and haul it to a helicopter outside the front door. Another was a helicopter-based one where you had to complete a series of levels to make it up a shaft via a transport helicopter made up of brushes that one player would pilot, but the best part was that entering the helicopter actually took you to a separate section of the map to represent the interior without Havok throwing a hissyfit and killing the passengers, they even used a render target camera for the exterior. I admit, when I got my own Steam account around 2008 and wanted to play GMod again, I bought HL2DM (since GMod back then needed a Source game to play)