Michael Jackson Should Have Given Teddy Riley Full Control of the Dangerous Album

[@bladebrown4191]

Dangerous was essentially a MJ/Teddy album, except for a few of MJ’s own stuff. Teddy said MJ told him to take more ownership of it and it’s “our album”. Mike had Teddy overhaul, add extra instrumentation, and help produce the tracks he worked on years prior.

[@M4532v]

Teddy's melodies always took you where you didn't expect to go musically. Almost an inverse of what you expected but seriously old School funk, hip hop and R&B

[@JanetFan-oz7by]

Teddy is a great producer Dangerous is one of my favorite albums by Michael.

[@tamikabroyles6627]

i agree and sort of disagree with rodney. if dangerous was a strictly straight up r&b new jack swing album then yes it would have been great if teddy mixed the whole entire album but dangerous is a little bit of everything album. it’s r&b, pop, rock, even gospel and inspirational with tracks like heal the world and keep the faith. i think michael was very comfortable with working with bruce sweiden who mixed all of michael’s albums from off the wall to his last studio album invincible and i think bruce really understood michael’s ear for music he knew exactly how michael wanted his albums to sound from beginning to end and if you listen to any of michael’s albums from beginning to end it’s like a a journey for example with thriller the album starts with that upbeat energetic baseline of “wanna be starting something” and the album ends with the slow sensual “the lady in my life” or with the history album the album starts with “scream” with michael and his sister janet and the album ends with “smile”. teddy riley is an incredible producer and i think that’s one of the reasons why michael wanted to work with him right after the bad tour ended in 1989 which is also when production started for the dangerous album. i mean the late 80’s and that new jack swing tempo was everything and teddy riley was that guy from keith sweat to bobby brown and even teddy’s own group guy michael was fully aware of the new jack swing sound and wanted to include that sound on his next album after bad which went on to become the dangerous album and dangerous was michael’s first album where he had complete creative control over after working with quincy jones. i think it would be cool if rodney and teddy could work together and work with michael’s estate to release some unheard songs that each producer produced for michael and put in on an album or ep so some of rodney’s songs that he produced for michael could go on the album and some of teddy’s songs he produced for michael can go on the album as well.

[@scda]

Wrong. This was MJ's album, not Teddy's. MJ wanted his input on the tracks he needed and that was it.

[@mechajay3358]

Exactly, it's an MJ Album with some Teddy Ridley influences sprinkled in, not the other way around

[@reginaldpittman8374]

Truth. I thought the Bobby album was straight new jack. Mike is a different beast all together. I thought Dangerous was great due to Teddy doing different grooves on some tracks. Mike gave him 3 of his new jack tracks to include. There is a video of Teddy being filmed by MJ of him doing his true new jack style like the Bobby album on she drives me wild. Now I wished Mj would have included joy, somebody put ur hand out, and blood on the dance floor. And cut some of the other songs, but keep who is it. The Teddy cuts plus who is it. Strong ass album that what have been. Mike way bigger than Bobby and Teddy.

[@rickeyalexander5174]

Hmmm no thanks. I love Teddy Riley’s contributions to the album. MJ as an R&B artist always comes before him as a Pop artist personally. Can’t Let Her Get Away is my favorite album cut, Remember The Time Is one of my all time favorite songs and MJ songs. I Even consider In The Closet and Dangerous to be heavily underrated. That being said, Teddy Riley producing the entire album defeats the purpose of the Dangerous album. Michael wanted to work with a wider array of people to expand his own palette of sound-making and artistic capability. Not only that, to shatter perceptions that he “needed” Quincy Jones. Dangerous did that. MJ and Teddy were able to adapt MJ’s sound to New Jack and elevate its capabilities. There was also this search for “sounds the war has never heard before”, that MJ required according to Teddy. But also, MJ maintained an exploration of other genres including gospel, grunge, heavy metal, hip-hop outside of Riley. Even the cuts that didn’t make the album showed great potential like Someone Put Your Hand Out. That’s what creates the classic of Dangerous, and of Bad and of Thriller. It was MJ’s defiance of genre that made him such a dominant, influential pop-star. To defer to Teddy Riley in this instance is to destroy his artistry when his intent was to reclaim, elevate and express it. To defer to anyone on his own album is NOT Michael Jackson. Put some respect on him!

[@HalftimeChat]

I think he meant for Teddy Riley to handle the mixing and engineering on the tracks he produced like he was able to do on the Bobby album. Rodney is coming from a production stand point. He can hear the mixes and knows Teddy was restricted by Bruce Sweden handling the engineering

[@rickeyalexander5174]

I can understand that part. For his own contributions that makes more sense, but not the entire album. I think for Jam he was allowed that? (Or maybe it was just the overhaul of the original production itself) I still think that would defeat the purpose of the songs Teddy didn’t produce, they weren’t created with the same intent of the sound MJ sought Teddy Riley out for. But from a maximization of his own songs standpoint I can agree to that. Though Bruce would have gone with his best understanding of MJ’s expectations and desires, Teddy Riley himself would have been most capable of finalizing what he was literally brought in for, I agree. I do get a bit overly defensive of MJ, I admit lol

[@for-house-stark]

@@rickeyalexander5174 PREACH! You totally get MJ. He defied genre! That's what made him stand out so big

[@reginaldpittman8374]

Truth

[@reginaldpittman8374]

Teddy overhauled jam dangerous someone put ur hand, and I think in the closet and maybe joy. Tammy Lucas said Mj had the melody before she was called to help with.

[@kben24]

I think MJ made the right decision because the Bobby album is kinda loud & heavy hitting to a fault… It doesn’t have the balanced sound of the Don’t be Cruel album.

[@brittanyguyton3987]

Teddy is a great producer and artist.

[@DJ--ALLDAY]

💯% agree with him, Bobby Brown's (Remixes on "BOBBY") are my fav's Then & Today - high energy, percussions, melody ARE SICK perfect workout 🎶 USIC

[@shapeshiftersmediagroup]

I just did an A/B comparison....wow I never realized this. The "Bobby" album does knock a bit harder. I will say this though, Michael's "Dangerous" album sounds so crisp, sharp and balanced. I guess it's all preference. I would love to hear what it would have sounded like all mixed by Teddy

[@FC-xc3zy]

Naw. Teddy is one sound. Micheal added other producers to balance it out as teddy suggested. Quincy was great. Quincy had the best studio musicians on Tap.. Quincy lent himself to all types of genres. Thriller was Disco, Rnb and Pop. Teddy is mostly hip-hop, and RnB. Teddy also had Bernard Belle as his musical director and ghost collaborate. Bernard was Regina Belle's brother. Teddy really shines when he brings hip hop to Rnb..

[@CJH71587]

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[@CJH71587]

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[@denzpacitodenzybaby7116]

Teddy did the right amount. Heal the world and gone too soon are MJ staples that teddy didnt do. Plus if teddy was so great. Why Guy 2nd and 3rd album wasnt even close to the greatness of the 1st album?… but because of halftime, we know the answer, Timmy Gatling.

[@jaybeetdown]

Dude, where'd you get that thumbnail?! I have the same keyboard!

[@HalftimeChat]

From teddy's Instagram

[@dreduvon2248]

1st of all "That's The Way Love Goes", is Janet Jackson's song and was produced by Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis. Although Teddy is 1 of the greatest producers ever, and I love alot of his musicianship and production with all the artists he's worked with over the decades, including Mike's Dangerous Album, I wouldn't have wanted it to be the entire enfluence over Mike's album. The reasons why I don't agree is. In my opinion. It would've taken away from it's versitility, of pop sounds that signified Michael Jackson as opposed to Teddy Riley featuring MJ type of vibe.

[@HalftimeChat]

He was referring to allowing Teddy to control the mixing and engineering on the 7 songs he produced

[@dreduvon2248]

@@HalftimeChat no he wasn't, he was referring to his opinion, hiw ge thought Teddy should've gotten complete control of the mixing, & creating of the entire "Dangerous" album instead Of just the 7 He produced because it had a different texture of sound, but he mentioned "That's The Way Love Goes" which wasn't produced by teddy, nor was it Michaels song.

[@HalftimeChat]

@@dreduvon2248 That's the way love goes from the Bobby album. All the songs we mentioned were from the Bobby album and how it sounded differently from the songs Teddy produced on Dangerous. Rodney believed that Teddy would have given those 6 songs more swing and funk if allowed to mix at Future records

[@earlbjenkins7095]

"That's the Way Love Is" Single by Bobby Brown from the album Bobby Released April 13, 1993 Recorded NJS Future Records Length 4:50 Label MCA Songwriter(s) Bobby Brown, Teddy Riley, Aqil Davidson, Demetrius Shipp, Thomas R. Taliaferro Producer(s) Teddy Riley

[@CleanMusicLover229]

When is he going to release Guy's version of "My Prerogative"?

[@HalftimeChat]

I doubt they is a version because Bobby Brown said in an interview that he co-wrote it with Aaron Hall after Teddy came up with the best. Timmy Gatling said that they were going to record the song when Teddy came up with the beat but he was kicked out before it could happen

[@roots2lovereggaeshow275]

I thought guy just recorded a demo version

[@CleanMusicLover229]

@@HalftimeChat Bobby Brown lied. Timmy said they recorded it, but it was given away after he left, just like "Him or Me" and few other songs. Teddy said he sent Guy's version to be added to the album, but they missed the deadline. The album was already mixed and mastered. And Teddy said he was going to give the song away, but Gene brought in Bobby to sing the song later.

[@CleanMusicLover229]

@@roots2lovereggaeshow275 It was for Guy's debut album and they missed the deadline.

[@isaiahwinbrone]

he got money for working with Michael Jackson on that album

[@StudioTrev813]

Future!!! Landmark in VA Beach.

[@alexhaynes6649]

Could u imagine Teddy Riley doing "Heal The World"?

[@HalftimeChat]

this is a song he wrote and produced with Michael for the Dangerous album but didn't make the cut. I think it would have been better than Heal the World kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHKniWhtrMaWqaMsi=k7tFfRdqJAeCtqKb

[@tedklampett1737]

I would have liked dangerous to have more different producers lol ... because Michael liked to be eclectic . even the cover .... would have liked to hear him even do some songs that were beatle lish ....

[@crencottrell7849]

Which MJ tracks did Teddy create/assist with?

[@brentwylie5558]

Teddy worked on Jam, Why You Wanna Trip on Me, In the Closet, She Drives Me Wild, Remember The Time, Can’t Let Her Get Away, and Dangerous. He also added a few percussion effects to Black & White. That is what he did on Dangerous album, he worked on Invincible album and Michael as well.

[@beingsshepherd]

_Blood on the Dance Floor_ (and Family Thing) too.

[@HalftimeChat]

She drives me wild I can't let her get away Remember the Time Keep it in the closet Dangerous Jam

[@brentwylie5558]

@@HalftimeChat oops you forgot ‘why you wanna trip on me’ which hits HARD

[@brentwylie5558]

@@beingsshepherd I guess if you include ‘blood on the dance floor’ from the remix album then you gotta include ‘Ghosts” too. Was “family thing” unreleased or something?

[@laurentkasprowicz]

And so we wouldnt have Who Is It and Give in to me ? Are You serious ?

[@HalftimeChat]

This was referring to the 7 songs he produced not the whole album

[@laurentkasprowicz]

@@HalftimeChat I spoke before watching the video. All my excuses. I still think it's better that way. I like the sounds of Teddy on Dangerous as they are and I'm as much of a fan of the sounds on Bobby's two albums as you are. Thank you for your exceptional shows and guests!

[@HalftimeChat]

@@laurentkasprowicz 🙏🏾

[@timmy841212]

MJ got Teddy at the WRONG time IMHO.

[@bobbyjohnson9409]

Like u think he should have got him in say 1987-1989ish??????

[@FedeRhodes]

Im gonna disagree...first cause Babyface is very humble and always give Teddy all the credit for the Bobby album.But truth is Babyface is who took Bobby to the stratosphere.Every little step,dont be cruel,Roni and Rock with cha are his...Teddy only did My prerogative. And regarding Dangerous..I think Rodney is biased cause Teddy is his mentor.Michael nevwr wanted a producer to sound like evwrything he did before.He called them cause he like dthwir work but he pushe dthem to create something better and he molded the sound with them if it wasnt right ther ein the studio it was through phone feedback but he was def hands on in the beats and sound. In my opinion Im glad Teddy didnt handle it all by himself cause I dont want Michael to sound like Aaron Hall😂 The tracks MJ didnwith Teddy... Teddy had nevwr sounded at that level,and wasnt able to do anything betrer after that.Goes on to show MJ and Bruce played a big part in making Dangerous epic.As a matter of fact the other T.Riley productions sound dated today while Dangerous stands the test of time and still sounds futuristic today,just like Invincible.Guys...Michael was a genius and he knew what he was doing.He elevated Teddy to a whole another level.And Teddy cant complain as a new comer produce rhe had so many tracks keeping in mind at that point Michael could choose anyboroducer write rhe wanted he really trsuted in Teddy and wrote his name in musical history cause no matter how big Twddy was bwfore he was still an rnb hiphop producer and MJ took him to the international pop mainstream arena.

[@GalaxyNexus1]

No he shouldn't have.

[@tedklampett1737]

man i wish Terence Trent Darby wrote and produced Michael Jackson !! :)

[@baztudyo]

No

[@HalftimeChat]

Control of the 7 songs he produced

[@StahlPO]

Well, taste is different. I think Teddy destroyed MJ just as Bobby Brown cause je has no melody feeling. MJ should have chosen Babyface just as Bobby Brown n Jermaine and as he almost finally did with his hidden songs.

[@atapenalva]

The sound of Dangerous was diferent becouse was mixed by Bruce sweden, Bobby Brown sound IS more hard and dirty, becouse that kind of sound was famous in that years in USA, Dangerous IS more sweet becouse Bruce sweden, Dangerous had to be sell in allí the world so make sense that IS not the same sound, typical Teddy Relly sound, Dangerous has more the estructure of Teddy Relly sound but not allí the esence becouse Bruce sweden

[@atapenalva]

For example i am from Spain and in Spain start to listen New Jack music and Teddy Relly music, thanks to Dangerous or Ghostbusters movie

[@reginaldpittman8374]

Truth

[@ayaanbretmitchell9830]

Why? Don't make reactions videos to attack an artist.

[@HalftimeChat]

Reaction video to attack which artist? Rodney Jerkins worked with both Michael Jackson and Teddy Riley and gave his opinion as a producer what he thought about Teddy Riley mixing and engineering the 7 songs he produced on the Dangerous album

[@ayaanbretmitchell9830]

@@HalftimeChat Cos firstly you're giving your opinion on an album that was hugely successful anyway. Second, this was MJs baby anyway and he dictated the sound he wanted. Thirdly it's pointless saying something like this 30 years after its release.

[@HalftimeChat]

@@ayaanbretmitchell9830 Michael Jackson and Teddy Riley are my two favourite people in Music so as their fan like everyone else, I can ask a question to someone who is better placed than most people because he has known and worked with both of them for many years. This was a question about 7 songs on the album, especially as Rodney had more freedom to mix Invincible compared with Teddy on Dangerous. Regardless whether the album was released 30 years ago or 3 weeks, we all have the ability to reflect and ask what could have been.

[@baztudyo]

Teddy is good , very good , great but this project was to big form him , melodie are more powerfull , amazing and beautiful n Bad and thriller album Teddy do a great work but not better than the two other

[@HalftimeChat]

Rodney Jerkins was referring to allowing Teddy Riley mixing and engineering the 7 songs he produced not doing the entire album. He knows the difference when Teddy and his team are handling mixing and engineering and could hear the restrictions in production.

[@roots2lovereggaeshow275]

I disagree...thisxwasnt to big for teddy...it was how mj wanted teddy to do it....urban jams for that time....

[@pensiveczar2239]

Disagree. While Teddy has a lot of stellar/iconic productions, a lot of what he did was junk too. He had a tendency to go overboard to the point of it being unlistenable. I especially used to hate it when he'd add that silly computerized vocoder voice to the music. Honestly I think the quality of MJ's music deteriorated once Quincy left and Teddy came in. I think MJ got Teddy at an extremely awkward time. If he gotten Teddy around the time of Just Got Paid/I Want Her...or Stay, then perhaps things would have been better. When I listen to Dangerous, I hear a ton of overproduction, noisy clutter, ridiculous grunt noises...and beats that sound like rip off's of "She Drives Me Crazy" by Fine Young Cannibals. The only song on Dangerous I like from Teddy was "Remember the Time."

[@marcocrawford938]

What you smoking

[@brotherkareem181]

@@marcocrawford938 Exactly 👍🏾what this fool talking about.😂

[@roots2lovereggaeshow275]

No mj album would be great with just one producer on it

[@HalftimeChat]

Definitely. Rodney Jerkins was referring to allowing Teddy to control the mixing and engineering on the 6 songs he produced and not the whole album