Halo 2 Prototype Master Chiefs

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@chaoticiannunez2419 8 ай бұрын

Chief's armor was meant to be reflective, especially the visor in fact, the original engine was meant to have real time lighting and shadows, like Doom 3, which came out the same year, but Bungie had to nix this due to hardware limitations with the original Xbox.

@primusvsunicron1 8 ай бұрын

Ruby should add these details to Chief in H2R and H3R

@Hunterunt 8 ай бұрын

Looks like they did!

@primusvsunicron1 8 ай бұрын

@@Hunterunt he did? nice

@Hunterunt 8 ай бұрын

Yes it was in the trailer

@Miguel-jq6ol 8 ай бұрын

It's funny I never noticed the lights weren't in the game, I just have a vivid memory as a kid drawing the chief off the box and the manual

@Macbravolive 8 ай бұрын

i remember when i was a kid, being a huge fan of led lights, i notice the box art Chief have shield indicators while in game, he doesnt. Made me puzzled and disappointed. i stuck to using elites because they have them and it look so cool in dark areas but Halo 3 made me happy. Spartan biped have shield indicators now.

@Foreign0817 8 ай бұрын

Childhood memories. I still remember the early 2000s in all their LA grittyness... 🥹

@Rythaze 8 ай бұрын

That last art piece is an illustration by Craig Mullins

@KRawatXP2003 8 ай бұрын

Reflected visor was planned but XBOX couldn't do it.

@swolfington 8 ай бұрын

Cool video, but I think most of the differences you spotted out were just due to the fact that the in-game/retail model and texture were lower resolution/lower poly. In my opinion, the retail texture looks directly based on that high res pre-release version, and most all of the changes you pointed out are due to resizing artifacts or just general loss of detail. The visor reflection differences are probably because the images used for marketing were rendered offline and not in the in-game engine - but at one point Halo 2 did have a more advanced stencil shadow lighting model that might have allowed for more complex reflections. I also don't think that's a covie ship reflected on the chiefs chin; look around the chin and you can see a lot of similar discoloration in other places. i think that was just part of the texture, added to make the paint look weathered. Also, the last image is definitely a digital painting. Google "Craig Mullins halo" and you'll find the original (or at least, the final version of it).

@halo3jocky 8 ай бұрын

IIRC the last one shown in the frame was a painting of a still image from a promotional video for H2 that was live-action but that could be Mandela effect, or possibly a later live-action trailer that I'm mixing up?

@kessilrun6754 8 ай бұрын

My dream Halo trilogy or even quadrilogy if you consider reach would be to have Master Chief in his classic green Mark 4 outfit from the book and a Mark 4 option for Noble six.

@JaycodaJr 8 ай бұрын

It is worth noting that there was a demo build of Halo 2 that was once showcased to the public before release. That version of Halo 2 and its engine were scrapped and Halo 2’s development effectively started all over again from scratch in terms of engine and software.

@THEdanrugaming 8 ай бұрын

Hail the spartan armour lights! Also, check out some of the halo waypoint articles as some have bonus high res promo art from older games.

@etikoshai9105 8 ай бұрын

Deam you got sharp eyes. And yes the last design you mentiond it is a concept art i know this because the guy who draw that also made some fore marathon as well

@jhnyjoejoe69 8 ай бұрын

I mean the Chief in the Halo 3 reveal trailer looked far better than the final version. Im fact the Chief in that H3 reveal stands out even now in 2024, looks as good if not better than the Infinite version of Chief.

@robertquinlan8063 8 ай бұрын

They always up the graphics for e3 trailers

@jhnyjoejoe69 8 ай бұрын

@@robertquinlan8063 obviously. But even years after Chief never looked as good as he did in that H3 reveal trailer.

@robertquinlan8063 8 ай бұрын

@johnjoe69 I agree. And like you said even in Infinite, while he looks good, H3 is just so perfect all around.

@marksman444 8 ай бұрын

The arbiter poster hit my local stores shelves in december 2004. The lights on chiefs armor was an interesting cut. The grunts armor lights were cut out of the final game and are in the restored content mod. Perhaps the armor lights on the player models were too much of an issue so they cut them?

@trueimageyt Ай бұрын

Man, imagine if Halo 2 cover art had the Arbiter on it with Chief.

@robertquinlan8063 8 ай бұрын

I had that Arbiter poster and i had a poster of the 3 red spartans for the multiplayer expansion pack. Halo 2 main box art is my favorite.

@DKrumpp 8 ай бұрын

This is great stuff, would love to see those promotional models in game someday.

@Aemyl_ 8 ай бұрын

It's not unheard of in early days of game development to create a high poly model of main character and put those in ads and then scale it down or vice versa and put it in the game, you can see this tactic on spyro games on ps1 for example

@zeveron862 8 ай бұрын

Yeah, consoles held back games really much in terms of high quality. I want the promo Chief to be added back as a skin.

@mr2meows 8 ай бұрын

real time visor reflections and real time lighting were planned for halo 2 before bungie realized the xbox isnt a magical supercomputer iirc

@chciken 8 ай бұрын

Halo 2

@Hunterunt 8 ай бұрын

Halo 2 One of the first great differences to halo 2 from halo 1 that people noticed was Master chief’s new suit of armor. Halo 2 promos hounded this epic image of Chief standing tall in the hazy battle scene. However I noticed some differences between this guy and what we got in the game, and discovered three different versions of Halo 2 Master Chief. So what I wanted to do today is show these differences between this promo master Chief and what is in the released version of Halo 2 Firstly we have this promo image on the right. All of the pre-release images will be on the right side. And on the left is Vanilla Halo 2 whats most obvious in the promo is that its much more detailed. You can see these scratches on the chin area have more depth. And there is a small indent ontop of the chin in retail that was not actually present in the promo. And the next striking thing is that the chief on the right has real-time reflections. Is hard to say if this was planned for retail or just for the beauty of the promo but you can see his visor is reflecting the environment of early New Mombasa. also his armor appears reflective though much more subtle, we can see in his chin area looks to be a covenant capital ship as well. The retail master chief’s visor has a little more depth to it by these bolder lines overall more dull. Now I will just zoom in on some parts, where the promo version is just a little more crisp but nothing significant is changed Switch slide Heres just another perspective with this cool little battlescene with flying Ghosts? Okay enough of the helmet lets move to the body. Switch slide No notable changes in armor design except for the visor we discussed… but there is a big discrepancy here. Can you notice it… well the chief on the promo, has lights! These are nulled altogether from the final game, retail chief has no armor lights anywhere in the game And to reference this light on the shoulder armor and leg is missing from retail. However this brings me to my next discovery, there seemed to have been 2 different promo chiefs, and we will see the next one now Switch slide Here is the Cover of Halo 2 for Xbox. And this Master Chief has the shoulder light but is lacking the leg light and also its very tiny but he has a very small light that was near his wrist only now here, again missing on the older promo Chief and retail. And the visor now matches much closer to retail having these thicker lines and less reflection. Other than that the the armor looks pretty identical to retail now. But Now lets look at the Manual art. Switch slide It appears he does have some higher res reflections in promo now that we have a closer look but these same bolder lines. We also have a closer look at these high quality scuffs and the lights. Now we can see a better view of the wrist light. The slots are still there in retail just missing the illumination. And also there is a little bit of a deeper pit here on top of his helmet, and more curvature of the helmet. Ok and I thought that would be a wrap but I made some more bonus discovery’s and now we move to those. Switch slide So Dig-site is a modding team that gained special access to bungie pre-release stuff to release to the public. Which means that they have access to these early Halo 2 Master Chiefs. And we actually get to see a cleaner view of the later Chief prototype I just showed on the cover and manual. This is a poster dig-site released and here it that Chief again. On the right is me on twitter just confirming this with Digsite members (read the tweets) so lets compare this view to retail. Again you can see some of the more detailed scuffs and scratches but we do get a more clear view of his torso here (switch slide) So the next I guess major thing I notice here is that the under armor black suit is actually more detailed on retail. The later promo Chief its more smooth and almost looks like a scuba suit but in retail its more mesh like. And there is just slight more color variation in the armor in the promo. This green is notably darker in the abdomen in the promo Chief Switch slide Now a bonus I found an old picture of the Arbiter, i couldn’t date this poster so im sure if its pre-release. I dont think they ever showed off the Arbiter before release but I did notice something a little odd about this image. So his armor appears to be identical. But im not sure if its the lighting but his eye looks like a different color. Its a lot more light and purple on the right where as retail its dark brown. And now a closer look Switch slide Switch slide x2 And lastly. The Halo 3 chief actually regained these “cut” lights of the Halo 2 promos. Though they are rearranged a little. He kept the same shoulder light, gained a new chest light, and the leg light changed position from the side to these 2 front slots. And the halo 3 lights are dimmer Switch slide Oh And then next is just a very early Halo 2 promo image I found, i wasn’t 100% sure if this was drawn art or an actual render so I didnt include it in the bulk of this video but this Chief appears to not have any scuffs on his armor. Also his visor has 2 different tones. But yeah thats it. There was surley 2 different prototype Master Chief designs. Most notably having different lights that never actually appeared in retail Halo 2. As well as a clear reflective visor. But thats not all lost… I noticed in the new huge Ruby Rebalanced trailer, a mod that reimagines Halo 2 they brought back their version of these lights and visor. But yeah thats my ted talk on Halo 2 Masterchief prototypes

@cuatro2271 8 ай бұрын

Halo 2

@ronaldperry9103 8 ай бұрын

Halo 2 did get pushed by Microsoft so Bungie kind of had to rush near the end of development and ALOT of stuff was cut from weapons and vehicles to full campaign mission, Halo 2 and 3 were written as one story and Halo 3 wasn’t even thought of yet until they decided to split the campaign to reach there time quote.

@joeyoung9596 8 ай бұрын

I feel like Halo 2 & Half-Life 2 always has this... different versions of almost everything. Like there's always somewhat of a 10 different beta models and levels that didn't made it to retail.

@Substitube 8 ай бұрын

6:59 That was my wallpaper for the longest time as a kid

@MacCalloom 8 ай бұрын

The facts that these prototypes only lasted days considering the games development is insane to me

@billyhopkins10 8 ай бұрын

Good video. The changes might have been because Bungie had to scrap the original Halo 2 build because the engine couldn’t handle it. Then rebuild the game from the ground up again. Due to the rushed development I wouldn’t be surprised if they had to change these things on Chiefs suit due to crunch.

@caviar_dreamz 8 ай бұрын

The engine could handle it, but the Xbox couldn't. The early builds of Halo 2 were tested on PC.

@billyhopkins10 8 ай бұрын

@@caviar_dreamz yeh you’re right, I forgot it was hardware limitations. Thanks for the correction.