REUSED Models of Halo 1 in Halo 2

[@angelbryan98]

I always thought all of those were remade using the same design from Halo CE. It's hard to notice they are the actual same, they look so different.

[@KrisLucky07]

The texture you see in the council chambers can be seen on the level Quarantine Zone its from the giant doors that open up while you're riding the gondola

[@zalrohglekgolo6149]

Other things: The rubberized Floor texture for Cairo Statuon thats the repeated raised dots on the ground, is also found in high charity when you rescue the marines and other hallways. Its the EXACT same tecture used for the Grip of the M6D in Halo CE and the M6C in Halo 2, and modified for the grips and butt of the SMG iirc. The M6C IS the exact same model as thr M6D from CE but with the laser sight removed and given a black color swap and no chrome texture. This was intentional the Elites wire frame model is almost identical to CE's, but higher resolution and a different higher quality skin and normal mapping. Same wirh rhe plasma pistols and rifle. Thats why the heat guages are flipped as well.

[@OfficialOpinion]

The reuse of the Forerunner textures was so cool and a neat bit of consistency between games. It's a shame how H3 development for next gen abandoned it and just made generic grey panels and new shapes. That Halo 3 Ziggurat will never compare to the CE version.

[@peradolia]

Halo 3 still had some pretty good forerunner textures

[@Foreign0817]

Would have been cool to see items from numerous games used at once. CE pistol for senior officers and H2 pistol for everyone else, for example.

[@gregorypendell9260]

You missed a couple - the Banshee and the Elite Combat Forms are recycled from Halo 1. They both have new textures, and the Elite Flood has the armor added (and maybe a new head mesh?) but they are otherwise the same.

[@Hunterunt]

I know the Banshee very similar but I didn’t include stuff where the texture was that different.

[@gregorypendell9260]

@@Hunterunt That makes sense! Great video btw, you’re consistently one of the highest quality Halo KZbinrs out there.

[@jasperfox6821]

Strange to think that the covenant shields were actually broken in og halo 2, and mcc fixed this 😅

[@maximdrake]

I like this actually. Improves the continuity.

[@haloboi09]

Something cool with the forerunner textures in particular: many textures and objects have been remade for Halo Infinite, including some things from Halo 3 (like the doors).

[@RickySama240]

7:54 Never really noticed the Forerunner structures in the Council chamber! I would walk past them thinking their apart of the Gravemind structures. xD

[@zalrohglekgolo6149]

The forerunner texture you see in high charity is the 4 part door section from the library entrance on quarantine Zone, and on the Dreadnaught we see chief jump into. Its a cokmmon tecture scattered around the series. One versuon of the texture replaces the black outlines for blue as if its backlit on an object. Ots of the fee perfectly circular tectures we see through the series

[@zalrohglekgolo6149]

UPDATE: this texture with the blue lighting is used in CEA IIRC

[@seereebee]

I never noticed most of these. Pretty cool how they did a good job hiding reused stuff/using it in a different way

[@southpaw117]

7:17 I feel the same way about the Plasma Rifle; it's never looked smooth to me. It can't be an MCC thing either as I had the same issue with it back in 2004.

[@DukeBluedevil70]

Never did like the visuals of 2 quite as much as CE, but it’s hard to articulate why. Something about the shinier style of CE is much more Halo to me. 3 got closer to this. Idk if it’s primarily the textures, the lighting, or what that makes 2 look the way it does.

[@thebrickccentric3728]

LateNightGaming recently did a video explaining why 2's lighting is worse than 1's

[@cocanecaulk]

Have you ever noticed that several forge structures in Reach are based on geometry from older games maps, both campaign and multiplayer? I would love to see a video covering this in more detail and I can give several examples if you're interested in investigating it further

[@Born...]

"If it ain't broke don't fix it"

[@jimjellyjinjamjimbo]

I actually appreciate the re-used models and texture designs from Halo CE and 2. It makes for a much more consistent transition between the two games, and makes the world feel more natural when design philosophy is uniform. I always hated how much games with multiple installments just drastically change art styles and designs of things with no rhyme or reason other than “artistic” ones. It makes it jarring to play through a series and the design of reoccurring objects like characters and weapons to mundane things like computers and light fixtures just changes (looking at you Halo 3 and beyond). Also those Forerunner pillars in the Council Chamber are probably there for religious reasons. Because they idolize the Forerunners, they probably believe when individuals walk into the chamber they pass Forerunner pillars to symbolize them “walking into a chamber of the gods,” or to follow in their footsteps. At least that’s my interpretation.

[@Phantom_Aspekt]

With regards to Forerunner textures, it's a shame that the environment shading is handled so poorly in Halo 2. The specular effects in Halo CE are significantly better looking, when you shine your torch on metal in CE it actually looks metallic, in Halo 2 it tends to look like clay instead of metal. And then you get that weird thing where the shinyness of metal is dependant on camera direction instead of light source direction, so an entire metal wall will flare up with brightness depending on camera angle if it is made to look shiny, something that never happened in Halo CE. I think this is why it's so hard to find shiny metal surfaces with bump mapping in Halo 2, one of the things that definitely make the game feel rushed compared to CE and 3.

[@yarr_bro]

love the more obscure videos, like this one. good stuff man

[@sparkthedragon]

i never noticed this, i never thought really anything was directly re-used from older games in terms of textures and models in their final releases except the scarab in reach, i do think though there should have been a direct comparison though of the actual games ripped textures and compared them that way to actually prove they are the same and same with the models, other than that great video

[@ThatTallBrendan]

To me, the council towers read as a remnant of the Forerunner facility high charity is built upon. Whether or not it's outright stated (or contradicted for that matter) in any external media, this is heavily implied through the design of High Charity itself. The mass of stalks and antenna coming out of the bottom of the station, are actually conduits from the Key Ship's docking platform- which was excavated, uprooted, and repurposed into the Holy City. Either that or they built the dome over top of it and teleported the thing to space, though this seems.. unlikely? Maybe that sounds reasonable. Point is, it's possible that the council chambers were built upon a pre-existing forerunner tower/installation, which was deemed to be of some significance.

[@RedthegamingZoroark]

Actually love how you called the Covenant weapon crates “space crates” 😂

[@JackJonValois]

The covenant modeled most of the council chambers after parts of the interior of the keyship. Those pillars are just a merging tribute to it they moved there. One of the comics between H2 & H3 shows the keyships interior and you can see how they copied the architecture, people were assuming the artist was being lazy but he wasn't. The comic itself was drafted after the cut level you were suppose to play after the cut warthog run or maybe it was a part of it.

[@Hunterunt]

Do you remember the comic issue or whatever they’re called? I would like to see that. I do vaguely remember years ago hearing about that “drama.”

[@JackJonValois]

@@Hunterunt I think its Halo Uprising issue 1

[@IMFERMO.]

Damn every day we only get more proof of how rushed halo 2 was

[@bshap495]

It's not uncommon for devs to reuse assets from a previous game. If it still looks good enough in the current engine, then there's really no point in remaking it.

[@zalrohglekgolo6149]

This was more done intentionally to keep in consistent

[@m.nightshyamalan6954]

And how it's still one of the best games ever

[@jarg8]

Why do you need to make new assets every time you make a new game? Part of why games get sequels is because the establishing work has been done and you can keep the momentum of development with a sequel by using what you already made and just adding to/iterating on it. Was this game rushed? Undoubtedly. Would a lot of these decisions have been made regardless to keep continuity? Yes.

[@peradolia]

the blurry textures for the ammo packs were to save memory

[@spartanonyx7165]

there's actually two different types of Normal Sentinels in Halo 2. the ones on the missions arbiter and the oracle are different than sacred icon and quarantine zone since one takes place near installation 04 and the others are on the delta halo.

[@smoldoggy1005]

Man I love Halo. Really wish they kept making games after 2010

[@erica.9431]

Reusing the Forerunner Textures makes sooo mich sense and I actually wish they would have done that in later games. It gave forerunner architecture so much identity, which wasn't the case especially in the 343 era imo...

[@anthonychase6906]

Subbed within 2 seconds I could already tell this is a channel i like

[@JanoschNr1]

The DoF of Halo1's glas still is brocken as can be seen in the xbox version

[@hoomanperson236]

Many models are recycled through the games, you can even for example, easily find recycled assets that appear in both halo 5 and halo 2 anniversary, like a majority of the bushes and foliage

[@ChouRaiyuki]

Interesting though not too surprising. CE and 2 feel like two of the closest games aesthetically (ODST and 3 excluded for obvious reasons). So for them to rip certain bits straight into the game seems almost natural. I wouldn't be surprised if the floor and wall textures also appear unchanged in 3 as well. Those patterns were the single most distinct aspect of Bungie Foreruner aesthetics.

[@TheRealQuenny]

good video, glad im seeing smaller halo creators surfacing

[@ForsakenSandpaper]

death animations from H1 we're in halo 2 and also halo 3.

[@Al-tt6tj]

its halo 2 vista thats missing stuff that mcc brought back, not original xbox ver. original xbox ver is the best and has stuff mcc still hasnt added back

[@burger_470]

I never really noticed lol still a great beautiful gane

[@chciken]

Halo 2

[@Oldguard_Tomastrujillo]

good content! like frfr

[@Agent7300]

cool video bro been a fan for a minute now

[@miguelangelquirogarodrigue1701]

Nice vid

[@MythicEgo]

That's why it's called Halo 2 😂

[@spidermanfan447]

i asked rocket sloth to do this exact idea years ago when i noticed a refused halo 3 model in reach. so cool to see it all this time later

[@ugoboom]

Are you excited for halo 2 ruby's rebalanced? Or are you purist pilled Also my jaw dropped when u pointed out the forerunner towers inside high charity. They were there staring us in the face the entire time and i never ever ever noticed.

[@Hunterunt]

Yes Im excited to see how it changes things and all the new content added! It seems to be the biggest mod yet!

[@trueimageyt]

the battle rifle is from Halo 1

[@268_3]

Let me tell you something: Complaining about reused assets like it's gonna break your immersion is so butt-fucking stupid. Why the fuck would anybody want to waste their time and resources to rebuild assets from scratch, when they can just touch-up existing assets instead.

[@Hunterunt]

Im not complaining

[@268_3]

@@Hunterunt Just wanted to rant because I've heard it before; you're one of the good ones.

[@420.........]

10/10

[@arbykay5946]

Im not surprise halo 2 is a downgrade version of halo 1, i dont like most of the texture and models they use because looks odd

[@primusvsunicron1]

Halo 2