Halo 2 VS Half Life 2: Which Game is Better?

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After hours of work, its finally here. Two legendary games go toe to toe. This video series will see the comparison of two of the most influential first person shooters ever made. I will enter this video with the objective of deciding which them is the greater game. Thanks for watching
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
2:16 The Gameplay
19:11 The Vehicles
23:10 The Physics
25:26 The Passage of Time
26:38 The Theme Park
31:46 The Stuffing
32:42 The Health
36:33 The Sprint
37:46 The NPC's
Special thanks:
Valve
Bungie
Id
Gearbox
Ubisoft
343
Videos used:
The video game golden age (HALO 2 Launch hype) by NARQUOTIX
7 Minutes of Saints Row IV Gameplay by IGN
Half Life 2 Tech Demo - E3 2003
The Weird Arm Physics of Jurassic Park: Trespasser by PC Gamer
The Finale - Halo 2 Super Bounce Montage by Whos Wild
Halo 2 MCC: Teleporting Bullets Glitch by Boring
Halo 2 Cut Content - Sprint by Gamecheat13
Valve Office Tour by GameInformer
Halo 2 Launch Party by Matt Matson
X-Play Season 1 Episode 13 - E3 2003
N64 - Goldeneye Playthrough by Erlnite
Francis Plays Magic the Gathering by boogie2988
#Halo #HalfLife #ShreddedNerd

[@jaidenlittle770]

I’m pretty sure the crossbow in hl2 is some kind of makeshift rebel weapon.

[@Chuked]

Both excellent games, the only issue is that half life 2 was never remastered like halo2

[@Thlormby]

“If you want something done right, do it yourself” - The half life community slogan

[@GuyOnAChair]

Half-Life 2 Update anyone?

[@Chuked]

@@Thlormby i dont have a pc and cant afford one! The console community slogan

[@Thlormby]

@@Chuked That’s understandable, though if the opportunity ever presents itself I do highly recommend it

[@Chuked]

@@Thlormby i have played it tho, i just dont have a pc to experience it the best way

[@keyboardstalker4784]

9:15 “It makes zero sense that rebels waging a guerilla war against an occupying force would have makeshift weapons!”

[@arkimist2186]

i mean lore wise the crossbow does count as an "experimental weapon" like the tau cannon and gluon gun, it's a makeshift weapon with the ammo not being bolts but fucking heated rebar. although it does function the same way

[@thr335ix7]

I personally just really dislike the criticisms of hl2’s weapons. For things like the crossbow I somewhat agree, but for things like the smg’s and other weapons... well no, the combine presence on earth isn’t that big in reality and barely any resources are being put into earth, and you can tell, as in half life alyx the combine were all equipped with energy weapons, but that was too expensive to this small outpost on a middle of nowhere world. So they switched to human weaponry that was plenty available. Edit: also I really, really dislike his justification for weapon limits.

[@Zealot_of_Omnissiah]

Good point, the lore states the combine you fight are just an occupation force.

[@snark567]

Doesn't really matter, they could have given a lore reason justifying interesting weapons instead of giving a lore reason to justify boring human guns. So many bad design decisions in HL2 are justified by lore when they shouldn't be. Like the lack of enemy variety, the game having almost no aliens and you mostly fighting guys in gas masks and headcrab zombies being justified with some dumb lore reason as to why you're constantly fighting humans and why the alien fauna is being kept away from the city or is somewhere lost in the wilderness or whatever. You can use lore to justify any dumb design decision but at the end of the day no amount of justifying will make the game any less boring. This is coming from someone who used to love HL2 but nowadays I acknowledge that on a pure gameplay and replayability level, Halo 2 and Half Life 1 run circles around it.

[@thevrb5298]

@@snark567 half life is a story driven game not a gameplay driven game so yeah being a mainly story driven game it is not as replayable

[@user-le1zw5nk9w]

@@snark567 the lack of enemy variety is not that bad because the game is paced well so you don't get repetitive fights

[@snark567]

​@@user-le1zw5nk9w Nah, the fights are repetitive and play out exactly the same every time you replay the game due to how scripted they are. It's fun the first or second time you play it but Halo 2 is more replayable because there's more unique enemies and the behavior isn't as scripted.

[@Scorchlette]

I feel like it's not a good idea to conmpare these two games. They have some similarities, but for the msot part they're incredibly different. Also, some complaints: Calling a weapon "fanservice" isn't a good point when, while not exactly about Halo 2, it's been done in games from this series you're hyping up so much. The crossbow appearing in HL2 isn't a fanservice callback or a "haha techdemo physics go brr" moment, it's place is a Resistance weapon made from spare parts, showing ingenuity (also, the idea of a red-hot rebar crossbow is honestly really cool). Every weapon in HL2 is designed to fit a specific role- the pistol is weak but a good sidearm and it has plenty of ammo scattered around the world almost everywhere. the SMG is for the early to mid game close-quarters engagements where the Crowbar would be too risky and the pistol would be too weak. The Magnum is really just a flexing weapon but it's still one of the best for taking out stronger Combine in one to two headshots. The AR2 (or Pulse Rifle) is a long range automatic weapon designed for use in the later half of the game when SMG ammo is scarce. The alien weapons not showing up is because they would have no place as the enemies they come from don't even appear in HL2. The experiemental weapons would also have no place in the sandbox because of the setting. Why was the Combine using normal Human weapons? I dunno, maybe because we have an excess of them here and it's easier to mass produce them over bioweapons like the creatures from Xen used? I can understand the hate on the vehicle secions- they're fun for a while but do drag on. Plus, HL2 doesn't base part of it's sandbox around the vehicles so they were, naturally, going to be the weaker element. Okay, talking about the NPCs in HL2 like that is disrespectful to the story. These are characters who you did meet in 1 (Kliener and Eli were both featured in the opening before the Resonance Cascade and are the ones who actually tell Gordon to go out and get help), but you'd know that if you actually paid attention to the story.

[@NotSoRadical_]

I’m not sure he knows that the weapons being used by the combine are the same as humans cos the combine soldiers are humans lmfao.

[@snark567]

If you rub two braincells together you'd realize that the characters that were retconned as Eli and Kleiner had no chance of escaping Black Mesa because the only available path was the one Gordon took, filled with zombies, houndeyes, bullsquids and bottomless pits, only to arrive to the We've got hostiles section that was overrun by HECU on the topside and the only other direction led to more aliens, HECU, giant tentacle aliens, radioactive waste, gargantuas, assasins, etc. And at the end Gordon himself never made it out of the facility, he only got as far as the Lambda sector which was also underground and the only reason he survived was because he was put in stasis by the G-Man after he was teleported to Xen. Half Life fans love to bring up the lore so much even though half of it makes zero logical sense.

[@TimSlee1]

@@snark567 You clearly never played Blue Shift.

[@snark567]

@@TimSlee1 I have played blue shift. Barney never even meets Gordon apart from a brief glimpse on the tram and when Gordon was knocked out. There's also a debate whether the Barney in Blue Shift is the one you see in HL2, it's not like all of the security guards are named Barney in HL1 anyway.

[@TimSlee1]

@@snark567 I'll admit you basically never meet 'The' Barney in Half Life 1 so yeah, Half Life 2 just expects you to remember him which is kinda odd I'll admit. But he is a good character in Half Life 2.

[@mosamaster]

You missed out the greatest weapon in Half Life 2 --- The environmental kill. Halo 2 has less charisma than Halo CE which had amazing concepts like the Halo and Flood and Covenant empire and Sentinels introduced to players and Halo 2 was just a sequel with some added features.

[@halinaqi2194]

Halo 2 revolutionized console multiplayer and had the best storyline in the franchise. Literally every line in halo is quotable.

[@finnish_hunter]

Halo 2 gave Halo the story, Halo 1 is better than 2 but not in story.

[@thefakebriskeh]

Lmfao no the sheer amount of vehicle kills you can get in h2 is better then world/physics kills in hl2 which makes it more satisfying because the enemies don't just stand there and wait for you to kill them

[@ShreddedNerd]

Let me know what you think and please be civil in the comments. Part 2 is available here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYiyZ39-ac2jqZo Thanks for watching. Join the Discord: discord.gg/q4uWk6Ys8F

[@SeniorCharry]

I think they're both great games that revolutionized the gaming industry. I just feel bad for hardcore Half Life fans because Valve hates the number 3.

[@jatinnegi4275]

Half life 2 had better graphics

[@Puppy_Puppington]

But they like the letter “A” :p

[@Puppy_Puppington]

@@jatinnegi4275 so what if it looked better graphically?

[@snark567]

@@jatinnegi4275 Both look aged now, the difference is Halo 2 still has good gameplay.

[@d.n5287]

Half life fans are more blue balled than sticking plasma grenades to your sack.

[@marsmurderer9868]

Don't do that. Don't make me choose. Half-Life 2

[@xacterzspectrum5269]

too bad yall dont even have a third game🤣🤣

[@tanvirzuhayrkhan1729]

i seriously want to give you so much hate but ppl have their own opinions and i can't do anything about it

[@marsmurderer9868]

@@tanvirzuhayrkhan1729 thanks I guess?

[@tanvirzuhayrkhan1729]

@@marsmurderer9868 nah man. all i wanted to say was that Halo is the best

[@madeyalook121]

@@xacterzspectrum5269 "dont have a third game" several spin-offs [Decay, Blue Shift, Opposing Force.] the episodes [EP 1, EP 2.] the third installment in the main games [Half-Life Alyx] lol ok.

[@orangeporridge1553]

Halo 2 is clunky? It's one of the smoothest games to this day imo..

[@natebit8130]

Agreed

[@Sockren]

i disagree. halo 2's character and grenade controls are fine but the guns feel kinda weird to use. the damage does not match with the sound design (that gets comical in legendary) which i've not had a problem with in any other game except halo 4.

[@heftymagic4814]

@@Sockren i think ur alone in this sentiment

[@Sockren]

@@heftymagic4814 it seems like multiplayer the guns are alright but when i play campaign its certainly not the best

[@finnish_hunter]

@@Sockren A smg/pistol dual wield melts even the strongest elites so?

[@bud389]

I heavily disagree with the 2 weapon limit argument. Sure, having to account for the player having every weapon during an engagement can constrain the developers, but it benefits the replay value of a game since it encourages experimentation. If you're restricted to two weapons, you're always going to go after the strongest, most efficient weapons because of, as you said, "the path of least resistance." Sure, the player could arbitrarily seek weaker weapons for more of a challenge, but that ignores the fact that they're also constrained by the weapons offered in that specific level. If a player decides to save the ammo for their powerful weapons if they have no weapon limit, the pay off of saving their ammo is a much easier engagement/boss battle. It's literally by design of the system. Arguing that it "invalidates" the engagement is a dismissal of the player's careful decision-making that allowed him to make that engagement that much easier. While 2 weapon limits are fine for games like Halo or Call of Duty, it is not universal.

[@SeniorCharry]

The two weapon system is amazing if the sandbox is balanced. Halo 1's weapons, for example, were all great for different encounters so it forced the player to think about what they need at that time, and if you don't have what you need then you have to adapt. As you pointed out, ammo management for a whole inventory of weapons can also provide great gameplay and strategy. It all comes down to how well the developers balance the game in my opinion.

[@EchoLocoCJ]

The "strongest weapons" will change depending on the situation. That's what's great about how Halos enemies and sandbox.

[@LondonLock]

That's where game design comes in. Making the best weapons either a bitch to lug around due to ammo or hard to obtain in a fight without working your way to them you need to break what every enemy has and in what order you should kill them an take their shit if needed to best get from point A to point B and in a well made sandbox the best weapons will change massively with small change's in AI reaction. If the enemy put's be in a situation where I want higher ground or just generally more mobility i'm going to want a brute shot but it's really not the best for damaging so I best be able to have another weapon up there given in this situation i'm on the run. So what do I want? Plasma is great for taking down shields but it's lack of health damage mixed with my meh 2nd weapon means it's not going to be a great combo so instead I might take a marine's battle riffle. Change the situation slightly to the enemy being more cover based and while the brute shot might be able to blow their cover away when I close the gap i'm going to want to change do a different loadout. Be it a plasma then BR combo, A duel wield spam loadout trying to stop any regen ect ect

[@Dosnmeda]

Regenerating shields also encourage players to try out different tactics, as they can retreat if something doesn't quite work out at first try. In shooters with conventional health pickups players often would use quick-save as a crutch.

[@woomster2865]

Overall great video, but the story NPCS in HL2 are actually far from invincible. if you play on hard barney and alyx will actually die quite often to shotgun soldiers if they get close, or from grenades

[@dogeshark204]

I played on normal and alyx died a few times on nova prospekt

[@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413]

they just have really good health regen, but only 100-200 health overall

[@dougthemoleman]

Half Life effectively has a 2 weapon mode as well, provided you like to use Q. It alternates between the last 2 weapons you've used. Although this doesn't have quite the same function of breeding creativity through constraints.

[@hecklefietwopup2060]

bruh

[@octodaddy877]

41:26 None of the essential Half Life 2 NPCs are invincible. Their health simply regenerates very quickly. It is entirely possible for them to die, they just have to get swarmed by enemies.

[@yahboi3640]

This is a very well made video! Great job!

[@devinkupka8319]

This was really well done! Well thought out, written and explained well, good use of visuals and music. And while i personally am less harsh on half life's shortcomings, I really enjoyed this video!

[@johndodo2062]

Bro, hl2 is so much better in every way possible than the first one. It isn't even close. Played then both at least a dozen times and 2 was a masterpiece for good reason

[@juzoone]

I prefer the first one. Half-life 2 made no sense to me

[@randompersonidk3497]

Both are good games

[@thefakebriskeh]

Hl2 has more gimmicks but hl1 has actual consistently good gameplay and enemies

[@randompersonidk3497]

@@juzoone wdym it didn't Made sence?

[@decriper1097]

what are you talking about half life 2 sucks ass compared to 1

[@user-uh7cb3vy4v]

Very good video! Excited for part 2

[@Nedzberry]

Free and powerful content by ShreddedNerd. Glad to know you haven't sold out to Spotify yet. RIP JRE.

[@Wet_Deer]

I really liked the video. I saw your poll before watching and voted for Halo 2. After seeing the video it seems you are also leaning towards Halo.

[@ShreddedNerd]

I do lean towards Halo but I want to make it clear that I really enjoy the Half Life series, especially Half Life 1. I'm trying to go hard on it to add a new critical perspective.

[@tycho7006]

@@ShreddedNerd Would you say HL1 aged better than 2? I just started the video, I think HL2 is great but the weapons are… mixed. The SMG and 9mm specifically are really bad imo. HL1’s guns are absolute chads by comparison

[@ShreddedNerd]

@@tycho7006 I'm inclined to agree. Half Life 1 has aged better, I think it's less reliant on fancy technology and graphics.

[@Nedzberry]

Great video! In terms of movement 35:00 I feel games like CS:GO don't hinder movement but promote a different 'style' of movement. For instance, in Halo you can get rewarded for playing aggressively and pushing for power weapons, but can be severely punished for being out positioned. In CS:GO's case the movement in my opinion is more nuanced and requires a higher skill barrier. If positioned poorly in CS:GO chances of surviving are nil, but if the player learns to counter strake, shoulder peek, jiggle peak etc. the probability of surviving is greater. I know this really isn't about Half Life 2 and Halo 2 but I guess CS is a spawn from Half Life.

[@doomdabot392]

Bro first cs was made in half life so they have something in common

[@thefakebriskeh]

​@@doomdabot392 they don't play the same

[@Player3.]

Every now and then I come back to this video. It’s great; part 2 is too. Sometimes it’s good to compare.

[@comradekirilov3483]

We love to see these

[@thevrb5298]

Half life also has very limited ammo tho I remember being forced to scavenging for ammo cause I just kept running out

[@reylib828e7]

Hey I love the vid and it's fun to learn about the game in a more detailed way. You mentioned in 29:18 how you can't blow up the phantoms in halo 2, I don't know if this was made up in my mind as a kid but when I played it on the original Xbox I remember blowing up the phantoms with the scorpion tank provided by SRG Johnson. This could be made up in my mind since it was a long time ago, if anyone also remembers blowing phantoms comment if you do.

[@ShreddedNerd]

Perhaps they gave the impression of destructiveness by allowing you to destroy the turrets and having particle effects fly off the vehicle

[@n8dogue]

Those Phantoms were carrying Wraiths underneath, that's why.

[@houseofosborne1173]

Then there's me, who at 10 years old or so would play on Legendary and actually save the rocket launcher though the entire level for when I needed it and never end up using all the ammo for it

[@DENIS_Biomech]

You should make Halo 3 vs. Crysis video at some point. Both games came out 2 months apart from each other and defined my childhood. ❤❤❤

[@smurfsareoppressed9584]

Also worth mentioning is Halo 2's over abundance of copy paste corridors and its iffy stealth sections.

[@_Phen_]

What?? I don't remember it being like that.

[@finnish_hunter]

Copy paste corridors? You must be confusing it to Halo 1.

[@bennettfender9927]

@@finnish_hunter It does have a worse problem tbh that being overly long hold out sections and narrow linear levels thankfully Bungie fixed these problems with Halo 3.

[@savaransardar7556]

the only good thing about halo is the "hal" word in it because it represents the Half-Life

[@gustavo3272]

comments are going to real rowdy when this gets more views

[@pyxylation]

I know this is a tiny detail, but its sorta weird how your video just ends without you saying anything. Fantastic video tho! Great breakdown!

[@SCP-mt7bc]

I think the combines use normal human weapons because they already do the work to kill humans, the combines use the technology of a race against itself, like helicopters and vehicles And the crossbow is an improvised weapon made by the resistance, which doesn't have many weapon resources.

[@Alkaline7y]

Oh, I have to pick just one? I guess Halo 2. The multiplayer seals the deal. It created XBox Live. Honestly, I couldn't believe they both came out the same year though. I remember Half Life 2 feeling incredibly polished, deep and beautiful. Halo 2 was none of these things.

[@RozinisEziukas]

just yesterday was talking with friend about Half-Life vs Halo... google is listening Great vid by the way, good job

[@frythechip7930]

honestly, if this guy said that either of these games were better than the other, I would agree. I love both these games, I can't choose between the two, but honestly, when it comes to Halo 2, it holds a special place in my heart. Whenever I hear the music of Halo 2, something inside of me either gets extremely pumped, or I wonna shed a tear. So, maybe if I had to choose, it might be Halo 2. That and because it was the first ever video game I played (or can remember playing for the first time).

[@TheLEGITstuff]

Great vid

[@projjalc]

Could you share where you found the info that Halo's two weapon restriction was due to memory limitations? This is the first time I've heard that and couldn't find mention of it anywhere else

[@ShreddedNerd]

I don't think it's true. I've looked further into it and I don't think memory limits were a factor in the decision making for it.

[@Bereskarrn]

Really good analysis on both sides, and fair critique. I hope you get many more views.

[@jakohindman2622]

Playing both. Half life is better. Gravity Gun at the end is awesome.

[@thevrb5298]

I think these are two different games following very different game design and so there is no objectively better game and rather more of which design u like better I personally like the gimmicks and the non repetitiveness of the game makes it fun for me if u don’t like it that’s fine

[@iamnathanael2132]

Very interesting video! I've been playing halo for the majority of my life but I'm just now getting into half life.

[@fsmcas]

The part about weapons has two weak points, I think. (1) Halo might have a higher amount of weapons, but many of them are just the same weapon with slightly different stats. Of course, one might be more efficient against armor and the other against flesh etc, but still you can basically divide Halo's rooster by 2 because you have most of the weapons in a human and a covenant form, but technically the same weapon. Yes gain, the look and work slightly different, but it's still just several pistols, several machine guns etc Not that "the more guns the better the game", but still worth a mention. It's the variety that counts, not the pure amount. (2) Half-Life has a lot of weapons, but they are not a linear progression of getting better. Most weapons serve a specific purpose and you will keep using them from the first moment you get them until the very end of the final episode. I still smash stuff with the crowbar, snipe Headcrabs with the pistol and fight fodder with the weaker machine gun in the last few levels. Funnily you compare the "good" system to Doom Eternal, a game that does the same (although more extreme, yes): A specific tool for every situation. Eternal has a full arsenal, just as Half-Life. And here you see the diversity and situational uses as a positive thing -- that is just what Half-Life does. And what Halo cannot provide: You cannot do "puzzle encounters" that force you to think of the correct weapon to use in this specific situation - Halo has to offer combat situations that can be solved with everything and is therefore deeper in one specific situation but flatter overall.

[@_Phen_]

Halo's sandbox isn't divided by 2. Yes, some weapons deal flesh damage more while others deal shield damage more. But it's just an example. The sniper for instance is a weapon that deals a bunch of damage long range with or without shields. Same with the Rocket Launcher. Instead Halo's sandbox is categorized. Which means each weapon deals, functions, shoots, controls differently to one and other. There is no over-lay nor redundancy between weapons . In a way, each feels unique and special even though some weapons are powerful than others in different situations. For example, the sniper is an excellent tool against the Covenant but when you get to the flood it becomes useless and meaningless due to it being significantly harder to kill flood with sniper rifles. As such, the game encourages you to experiment and choose between different weapons rather than sticking to a specific one through out the game. And this is where weapon limit comes in. Halo, in design, provides a unique gameplay loop where grenades, melee and shooting comes together to create some form of "dance" where everything is intuitive and responsive which as a result presents a nice and fast flow of combat thanks to the fact that grenades and melee occupy different buttons contrary to Half Life. Your point on half life may become valid if there was more enemy variety in general and a challenging chess match happening within the game. What's the point of having all these unique and special weapons if you're shooting the same enemies the same way. I love both Half Life 2 and Halo 2 because they are 2 faces of the same coin. And i love how they provide unique experiences with similar goals. Which is having fun in a special way relative to their respective games.

[@fsmcas]

@@_Phen_ You are completely correct, but you've misread my comment: "divided by 2" does not mean that all weapons are the same. I meant that if Halo has 30 weapons, technically those count only as 15 (30/2) because you have the same weapon twice, once alien once human. Yes, snipers are useful in one case and useless in another, but the human sniper or the alien sniper offer the same effect. So saying "Half Life has fewer weapons than Halo" might be correct on a numeric scale, but Halo's weapon rooster only has half the amount from a usability standpoint.

[@_Phen_]

@@fsmcas I respect your opinion and i understand your point now but i disagree. Though they have the same effect. The beam rifle and the Sniper don't function the same therefore it's kind of a stretch to consider them the same. Even half life 2 has this "issue". There are 2 pistols, 2 rifles that basically do the same effect. You're saying these 2 snipers aren't different enough while i would argue THAT the way they deal damage is different thus making them unique... enough at least. Which i think is related to multiplayer balance more than everything else. I wouldn't say it's fully unique because the brute and Elite plasma rifles exist. This issue was resolved however in Halo infinite. In conclusion, i know it's kind of an issue but it's not really a big deal to me at least. Especially considering that are literally only 2 weapons that function the same, and deal the same damage. EDIT: I fully agree that having more weapons, doesn't mean having more variety but that statement really just applies on Halo 5 more than 2.

[@n8dogue]

This just reads that you're very ignorant about the sandbox in Halo games and incredibly biased towards Half Life.

[@fsmcas]

@@n8dogue Feel free to correct me but give reasons instead of allegations

[@ChairmanKam]

11:47 See I saw it as them being more "realistic" 😒 The AR from CE acted more like an SMG, and they thought it made no sense that a pistol would be a battle riffle. 🤷 I preferred it the OG way.

[@christopherlyndsay8611]

Saying the gravity gun is used on one level is ridiculous, its used constantly if you actually engage with the environment.

[@undecidedmajor1664]

Pressing X to doubt on Halo 2 having 2 weapons max because of memory limitations. It's clearly a design choice when there are 30 guns laying on the floor to pick up.

[@Spillow-C]

i love halo 2 for the two protagonists and stuff, but half life 2 is on another level on every aspect, make a comparison just dont make sense

[@plastiquemonk]

8:43 "its like they expect people to be cheering behind screen" yah i was cheering behind screen it worked

[@malceum]

Both were a huge step back from their predecessors.

[@gordonneverdies]

In HL just because you have many weapons you can't spam all of them all the time. The rocket launcher and SMG grenade launcher each have only 3 rounds and the ammo is rare in most maps. Same with Tau/ Gluon ammo in HL1 or Black Mesa. The game could easily impose restrictions with map design or ammo quantity. Being forced to carry only two weapons is fine for repeat runs when you know the best to keep. The first playthrough I think benefits greatly from experimentation. I agree with the NPCs in HL2. The lack of friendly fire is immersion breaking af. They are extremely naggy and the squad mechanics are rough. I use console commands to get them to leave me alone.

[@not8719]

You should do a Half Life vs Bioshock video

[@vaderchief]

had no idea half life 2 and halo 2 came out the same year

[@deriznohappehquite]

I feel like you and I have very similar minds on game design.

[@FatherMerica]

i think both game engines have similar code either back or way back

[@yorkshire_tea_innit8097]

Is there any evidence that halo had 2 weapons because of memory limitations? Memory is going to be a part of every decision a game designer makes, because it is his currency regardless of platform, and he must make the most of what he has. That's why there are plenty of games on the Xbox original that allowed for carrying more weapons, for example doom 3. The real reasons are probably 3 fold. 1. At the time it was often said that carrying 10 weapons was a silly aspect to FPS games such as doom. 2. Controller doesn't allow for easily selecting between 10 weapons u like keyboard, although 4 is a good number such as dead space have weapon selection on the d pad. 3. Games were rapidly evolving in that time period, and everyone was trying new things that would shake up the formula.

[@seaside3218]

I think Halo 2 is the best piece of media ever released, so I think the choice is obvious.

[@naveenselvatheboss]

Ppl wen asked abt Games with iconic weapons : Crowbar from Half life and Assault Rifle from Halo...... Doom fans : But but..... BFG...😭😭...!!!!

[@GodFatherGB]

The BFG is more iconic than both combined

[@naveenselvatheboss]

@@GodFatherGB I havent even heard of it so u can leave...... Halo and Half Life have created an entire culture around them unlike Doom......

[@decriper1097]

halo 2, next question

[@stefan0453]

Max Payne 2 had a physics engine

[@Vitor_Han]

Both are GOATED

[@originalityisdead.9513]

I prefer Half Life over Halo. Half Life Alyx was a nice addition which seemed to come out of nowhere and was absolutely fantastic.

[@heftymagic4814]

You should have used Xbox 360 footage for halo 2 instead of the mcc version because the mcc version uses the windows Vista port which makes the game look genuinely worse then how it's supposed to look. And used the original version of half life in 2004 instead of the modern visually scaled one. Just for authenticity lol

[@jpesicka999]

You mean the original Xbox version, since Halo 2 was an original Xbox game first well before the Xbox 360 existed.

[@heftymagic4814]

@@jpesicka999 the 360 version uses the same one as the original so same thing

[@macdaddy1234]

I think you minimize the positives /exaggerate the negatives of half life 2 because you prefer halo 2, but I agree with a lot of what you had to say. Good overall message. Personally, in terms of soundtrack, I agree they are both great, but while halo's may be more "grand and epic" I found HL2's soundtrack way more versatile and effective at setting the tone of whatever level you were on.

[@NotRay1995]

Is there a good FPS game for beginners?

[@christopherlyndsay8611]

Half life 2 is perfect for beginners

[@strikeone7803]

Yo what's up?

[@ShreddedNerd]

Not much, how about you?

[@strikeone7803]

@@ShreddedNerd oh sorry for the long delay, youtube has f##% my notifications once again....keep the good content man!!

[@finnish_hunter]

The combine soldiers are mostly humans so yeah why would they use alien weaponry?

[@randompersonidk3497]

well they used to be humans but the combine have modified them so much their not even considered human anymore,

[@finnish_hunter]

@@randompersonidk3497 The city watches are still mostly human and thr city watches are largest of the combine forces on earth.

[@kristoferkoessel4354]

Half-Life 1 is the reason why halo or any first person shooter with a decent story exists, now if Half-Life 1 didn’t do it, someone else would’ve. But the question is would anyone else do a better job?

[@ShreddedNerd]

I do want to point out that Bungie was presenting complex stories in FPS games as early as Marathon from 1994.

[@kristoferkoessel4354]

@@ShreddedNerd Absolutely true but there are of course some concepts of story telling that were utilized in half life 1 that caused it to take off in such a manner that it was regarded as one of the first true first person shooters to have a story. This story telling alongside the new technologies developed such as skeletal animations and differential scripted events amongst certain entities was the reason why so many companies afterwards tried to replicate such practices. It will always be arguable that first person shooters before half life 1 had complex stories and maybe even good ones, I agree with you because it would be stupid for me to say that you are wrong. But one thing I will have to argue with is if you look statistically at the popularity of these games before and after half life, you will see that the vast majority of developers had copied certain story elements and intertwined gameplay that was only seen in half life 1. After these developers released their fps’s containing these elements, their games became very very popular. Half life 1 had essentially caused a massive videogame revolution. Bungie may have been making complex and even good stories intertwined with gameplay, but it just never was exactly the games to cause a new standard for story telling. But another thing I can say is that half life 2 could’ve definitely stole ideas from halo gameplay-wise I.e: Halo combat evolved had vehicles before any half life game, unless you count the tram in the chapters “blast pit”, “on a rail”, and “apprehension” in half-life 1. Half life 2 could’ve stolen the idea of vehicles in Half life 2. But fortunately I’m only talking about half life 1. But again it will always be opinionated. Way I see it is that bungie could’ve shaped some of the decisions at valve and valve could’ve shaped the decisions at bungie and in some cases we do see that. But Half-Life 1 so happened to manage to not only put itself on the radar instantly, it managed to create a standard that everyone wanted to follow, even bungie. But bungie did do a lot of things that took this formula and deviated it to make it their own, which many other companies wouldn’t do. Like I said if valve didn’t manage to make such an advancement in 1998, then someone would’ve done it without them. How long would it take? What would the effect be? Would the magnitude be the same? Who knows? But history factually says that it was valve. Whether any of us like it or not. It’s undeniable history. Whether you agree or not is up to you, as you are entitled to you opinion and I respect your opinion as well. But in the end whether I disagree with you or not, I still enjoyed your video! One thing is for certain though, regardless of how important Half-Life 1 is for the history of FPS’s, First person shooters, and the video-game infrastructure we have today wouldn’t be the same without Bungie or Valve.

[@yayayoshi1028]

@@kristoferkoessel4354 no u

[@kristoferkoessel4354]

@@yayayoshi1028 Damn

[@wondermenel2811]

Halo 2 does not have a Trabant 601 Universal as a prop car, there for HL2 is better

[@yayayoshi1028]

Your just a halo fanboy half life is the best

[@mightysardinas4672]

Your just a half life fanboy, respect other's opinion

[@yayayoshi1028]

@@mightysardinas4672 nah jk i worship halo

[@finnish_hunter]

While I have nostalgia for Halo 2, Half Life is better because Halo has more flaws.

[@cancerstudios8631]

Halo green space man shoots at green alien space war 2

[@riftshredder5438]

Ummmm Goldeneye had duel wielding before Half Life did

[@legospartan3.042]

Half life 2 beta mods are sooo Awesome

[@YouTubeTryingToBeTwiter31581]

Wait... There is Sprint in half life 2? And I played it like it was Halo 2 or any other slow paced "tactical" shooter. 😐

[@madeyalook121]

isnt worth using most of the time, only lasts mere seconds

[@SaviorAssassin1996]

Easy. Unreal Tournament 2004.

[@tourimelms8301]

its cool that you brought up marathon in halflifes design, a lot of what halflife did and is credited for pioneering marathon did prior. and I do think there is some level of credible truth to the claim, since one of the halflife 2 deathmatch maps is a remake of a marathon deathmatch arena

[@fatpenguin5030]

Fax no printer

[@georgelabauve3469]

Well a crossbow bolt would have more penetration then your average bullet

[@clydemarshall8095]

Well Halo 2 obviously, but they're very difficult games so I'm not sure the comparison is that valuable.

[@Ubreakable-lr2dk]

no half life 2 its not without a reason the highes rated game in history

[@randompersonidk3497]

Both are good games

[@deriznohappehquite]

I feel like my biggest gripes with Half-Life 2, the base game, are weak puzzle design and enemy design. The latter gets addressed in Episode 2. There are too many puzzles that you solve by putting things on some kind of lever. The physics were novel, but they didn’t really get very creative with it. Compared to The Legend of Zelda games that came out years earlier, the puzzle design is just bland. The game would be better off without most of them. There are enough basic, regular, enemy designs in the game for like one or two factions, but they got spread out into three enemy factions. The combine, the main antagonists you face, essentially just have soldiers, who get progressively beefier variants, but are still the same basic thing, and man hacks. The Antlions have drones and queens. The head crabs have normal headcrabs, poison headcrabs, normal zombies, and fast zombies. Of these, man hacks, head crabs, poison head crabs, and ant lion drones are all extremely weak, melee only, cannon fodder enemies that serve virtually the same role in combat, a minor nuisance. The game will occasionally bless you with a hovership to fight, but those are far too sparse and some of those encounters aren’t even combined with other enemies. The Striders, armored cars, Helicopter, and combine snipers are about as interactive and common as the scarab in Halo 2, and about as interesting to fight as a single National Socialist in CoD 2, so I don’t feel any desire to count them. I don’t count the traps in Ravenholm as enemies, either. These are practically level geometry. There are many encounters where you only encounter one type of enemy, which sucks. The episodes flesh out the enemy roster, and by episode 2 we have the Hunter, the acid spitting ant lion, and the Zombine, which make the expansions’ combat actually fun. Half-Life 2 is a great game in aggregate, but unfortunately you have to play the whole thing to get to the parts that are really great, unless you just skip to Episode 2, which learns from its predecessors’ mistakes. Comparing it to Halo 2, the Covenant has Grunts, Elites, Drones, Hunters, and Brutes. The Elites have more, and more varied, variants than the Combine Soldiers, coming in Stealth, Ranger, and berserker Zealot flavors, in addition to the Blue, Red, Black, and White, which are more or less separated by beefiness and aggression like Combine Soldiers. They also tend to wield more varied weapons. The Jackals also come in sniper and soldier forms, which play very differently. These also very commonly come along with a variety of dynamic, AI controlled vehicles, the Ghost, Specter, Banshee, and Wraith, though the specter is poorly balanced for counterplay, being essentially a Covenant Warthog with a hitscan machine-gun. The secondary antagonist Flood have only three real enemy types, the combat forms, infection forms, and carrier forms, roughly corresponding to fast headcrab zombies (with the added variety of weapons), head crabs, and the zombines with grenades in HL2:E1. The tertiary Sentinels have only two types, enforcers and sentinels (which have a hilarious gold variant), but these are almost never sent at the player alone. They are always mixed in with Covenant or flood, often in Melee a Trois scenarios, which is a trope Half-Life 2 really should have used more. It’s rare to enter an encounter and not see at least three clearly distinct enemy types in Halo 2. Seeing five to seven isn’t uncommon. Sometimes you’ll see more enemy variety in one encounter than Half-Life 2 has in the entire base game.

[@deriznohappehquite]

My main gripe with Halo 2 is difficulty balance. It’s a bit easy on Heroic and a terrible slog on legendary. There’s no really perfect difficulty to play it with. Ultimately my recommendation with both games is just to play their predecessors, then skip to Episode 2 and Halo 3.

[@shootnslash4804]

Gotta heavily disagree with some of your points. 1. The puzzles. I don't know where you got "most of the puzzles get solved by pulling a lever". Not true at all, most of the puzzles in Half Life 2 are physics based. Sometimes you'll need to stack objects to progress, use the weight of the objects to lift/destroy something, you'll sometimes need to use gravity gun for higher precision in these momments, you'll need to attach cables or find batteries, a lot of these can happen in water aswell for example in one puzzle you need to swim to the bottom of a water pit and destory the planks that are holding other wooden objects, once you destroy them those objects will float up allowing you to jump to the other side. It's simple but there is a lot of other shit. The physics puzzles can go far in Half Life 2. 2. On the enemies, you are right. Halo 2 has better enemies. But seriously? You don't like Striders? Striders are fucking awesome. Their design looks sick and the way they move, function and represented is amazing. Also antlions, manhacks and headcrabs are both meele and you could say they are weak but none of them are the same and borh function differently. Manhacks can obviously fly already making them different from the other and on top of that have other functions, for example the player can use manhacks as a weapon against other enemies. Antlions can jump across far and high distances, they can also latter be controlled and have a cool section where you use the physics objects to cross a huge sand beach without touching the ground or you will be ganged upon, they are also afraid of specific machines made to counter them which player can use as a shield or a way to attack other enemies. And finally for the headcrabs they are different beacuse they are usually an ambush enemy attacking from places the player would most likely not look at if they are not careful and there are 3 types of headcrabs aswell. Also you are not going to see more enemy variety in Halo 2 in a single encounter considering Half-Life 2 has about 20 enemy types in it. Now the reason i like Half Life 2 more is the more varied, atmospheric and interesting world than Halo 2 (not that i am saying Halo 2 has a bad world, not by any means it's amazing actually but not on the level of Half Life 2). I mean seriously one chapter in Half Life 2 has more enviromental detail and interaction than most of Halo 2, and Half Life 2's chapters always have some type of story to tell purely by enviroment, and the atmosphere in them is SO GOOD. Like i could just stand and stare at some of them and just relax.

[@Ubreakable-lr2dk]

dude at that time half life puzzles were the stongest in the gaming industry to even compare it with halo blows my mind a real compareson would be half life 1 with halo 2

[@deriznohappehquite]

@@Ubreakable-lr2dk Half-Life 1’s combat is way better than Half-Life 2’s, so yeah comparing it to Halo 2 would make more sense. Ocarina of Time did puzzles way better than Half Life 2, as an example.

[@toddhoward7831]

Halo 2 baybee

[@allhailthewhale1423]

Prime 2 is crying

[@ApeNaticZoo]

I play pc and I think halo 2 is the goat

[@jatinnegi4275]

Half life 2 way better Just play it I played both man We can pick objects in half life 2 and graphics much better Even we can carry so much weapons and gameplay is fun

[@_Phen_]

@@jatinnegi4275 Everyone is biased. Me, you. Everyone. So this doesn't really make sense

[@trillmixin6999]

al gore rhythm

[@fallingtree123animations9]

This guy clearly has a bias towards halo considering all the stuff he gets wrong about half life 2. Like him claiming that the crossbow and SMG were only in the game for fan service. The crowbar I can understand but it still fits in the game as a tool repurposed as a weapon by the rebels making an arsenal out of whatever they can find. BTW I am a huge halo fan I have over a 170 hours on MCC. And got the achievement for killing 20,000 players or A.I enemies. So don’t say I don’t love halo.

[@GodFatherGB]

Halo 2 gameplay hl2 story

[@finnish_hunter]

Halo 2 made Xbox and Halo had a far better story.

[@salsamancer]

This comparison makes no sense, it's like comparing soccer to basketball because they're both games played with a ball. Totally different design, different experience, different expectations and on top of all that it's not hard to like both for different reasons.

[@PackHunter117]

Halo 2 is GOAT

[@randompersonidk3497]

Their both good games

[@Marcara081]

Halo 2 spawned Halo 3. So if you consider legacy and the effect on the industry, Halo won - handily.

[@finnish_hunter]

Yeah you're right on that but at least Half Life isn't completely dead.

[@jblazerndrowzy]

And the Half Life series spawned Dota, Team Fortress, and Counter Strike, along with a bunch of other spin offs like Blueshift and Opposing Force. I’d say Half Life got that point - handily.

[@richardbeard9391]

theyre both better

[@rosie_mew]

turning the nameless npcs from half life 1 into real characters was actually a smart move i think. half life 2 is so tonally different than the first game and is no longer just about wacky aliens attacking black mesa, honestly without keeping some of the weapons and enemies it wouldn't be recognizable as a sequel. so i think your points are unfair a lesser company would have gordon in yet another lab doing the same thing again

[@jaykelley103]

Halo 2 mogs half life 2. Simple as.

[@SaviorAssassin1996]

I disagree with you. Weapon limits seriously hurt Halo.

[@johndodo2062]

Half life 2 was more innovative with the game itself. Halo 2 did the same but with multi player. I would say they are dead even for totally different reasons honestly

[@blackbonnieiscool]

Welp, This dude made a mistake making this "contriversal video." The half-life and halo are judged poorly here. Especially Half Life, taking about its "weapon system," "NPC relations," "gameplay," and "fanservice." Which is a big mistake. Comparing two giants needs responsibility. Like, dude, you're talking about two entire communities and playstyles! I won't talk about Halo 2 due to my lack of knowledge on that (at least what I think). Fanservice: This was the most rude and weird part. Everything in Half Life 2 has a reason; it's not fan service. Everyone knows Freeman by his crowbar. Everyone in Blackmesa saw him with it. The Xen life and humans. Gman quotes, "There was a time they cared nothing for Miss Vance. When their only experience of humanity was a crowbar, coming at them down a steel corridor.". You need to understand the crowbar's staple. The Lamda logo that Freeman wore in his suit was the symbol of freedom. Humans relate to things; that's how the brain works. And you are talking about Barney like you do not know him. Dude Barney had a separate game. We know that he was a person who was with Gordon, who used to race the vents with him. Same as the others. This is not a fan service. There are a lot of parts that I am sparing due to time. Weapon system: HALF LIFE WAR IS NOT A FACE-TO-FACE WAR, BUT A GUERILLA WARFARE! Which makes the most sense. Combine is a powerful force! They destroyed humanity in just 7 hours! It is expected to feature GUERILLA WARFARE! And rebels can't just make weapons. That had to be makeshift stuff. Even their kevlar is re-used CP kevlar. The weapons make sense and have their respected uses. Dude! When we see a barncal, we use the pistol; we do not use SMG or waste bullets. It's the art. Remember half of life's rule: "Run, think, shoot, and live." You need to think about what to use. That's the fact. We use SMG when we do not have AR2 Ammo. We use AR2 when we do not have SMG Ammo. The world is more complex than just "UMMM, THE WEAPONS DONT LOOK COOL ENOUGH." I hate the two-weapon system, btw. This shows the developers' laziness. Half-life's weapons have their respected uses, as I told you earlier. 2 Weapons is for a game that only loves combat, not story, emotion, or art. Half-life is a game of art. NPC FRIENDSHIP: People always think of Gordon Freeman like that. They say he has no character, but you need to look into the game. This game is more complex than Halo. The story is deep and can keep you interested. You are not fighting for fun; you want to finish this fight, this war. You had only one objective. Kill that prick who caused all the problems. You see the deaths and crying of people. You realize this world needs you, and you know that. You can see the difference when you destroy Nova Prospekt. You realize that they value freedom. They always want to join you and talk to you. Remind them to reload, and they want to help. You need to understand this world. You can't look outside and say, "UHHH, THIS GAME IS A FANSERVICE." I LOVE THE GAME WITH COOL WEAPONS AND SUIT" (not halo, btw). Halo also has that, but not as deep as half-life. It is the closest reality. It shows the world's impact. It affects you on an emotional level. Overall: THIS WAS A BIG MISTAKE MAKING THIS VIDEO BUDDY. Halo fans, Tell us half-life fans about your game in the reply box! I would love to know about Halo. We half-life fans love and respect everyone! Can I see a big ass paragraph like this??

[@NihilisticIdealist]

Despite inferior combat and vehicles, Half-Life 2 is the better of the two. I love Halo 2 and its story, but it arguably has the weakest campaign of the Bungie Halo games. At the end of the day, F.E.A.R. is better than both.

[@TheMiner16]

Fear is just a bunch of offices and industrial hallways with some shooting and a lot of slowly walking around. It kinda feels like its just a showcase for the slow motion and environmental combat effects.

[@halinaqi2194]

Considering the halo 2 crunch, I'm just happy they still managed to make a great game.

[@TheMiner16]

@@halinaqi2194 Halo 2 is honestly way better than people give it credit for. the second to best game in the franchise as far as campaign is concerned after halo 3 if not the best. And I played ce as my first game and when I got to halo 2 I was shocked at how much of an improvement it was

[@eatanotherzio6811]

Half Life 2 is ball cider and its rabid fans are severely mentally challenged. Its the only game in existence Ive played that dropped on the 2nd playthrough halfway through. I got through fucking Sly 3 further on playthrough 2 than Half Life 2. Half Life 2 is horribly linear and slow. Enemies are retarded, weapons have no impact save for shooting shit with the gravity gun, and the 2nd DLC Episode felt like a actual game compared to the Main Entry. Halo 2 has intelligent enemy A.I. (friendly is dumbshit obviously so it doesnt make the game a cakewalk) Replayability with hidden skulls, shitton of different weapons and vehicles, addicting multiplayer, and the OST feels professionally composed to the garageband trash in Half Life 2. And no the weapon limit wasnt due to memory limitations. Bungie felt that every weapon was balanced for any encounter some more than others, and digging through a magical trunk of weapons would slow the gameplay to a crawl thats why swapping weapons on the fly was implmented.

[@spuriusscapula4829]

I won't even consider the multiplayer. Halo. I'd choose Halo 2 and even Halo CE over HL2. HL2, though a great game, doesn't have replay value. Story was meh. Enemies and shooting were relatively ass. In retrospective it was more gimmicks than story or gameplay. Halo 2 had amazing story, characters (especially the arbiter), gunplay, vehicle sections, dialogue, music. Some of the arbitrr's levels were a weak point though, as they could feel a bit dragged. But that's a minor complaint. The overall feel of the original Halo trilogy to me is unmatched compared to any other game.

[@smitty2jones]

WeApOn LiMiTs FoRcE yOu To InTeRaCt WiTh ThE sAnDbOx. No they don't. They limit your sandbox. It gives you fewer options to play with. If HL2 only had 2 weapons, I couldn't shoot dude X with the crossbow from 300 feet because, oh, I can only carry two weapons. I can't even imagine how shitty most of my favorite FPS games would be if they had the outrageous limitations that Halo artificially saddles the player with. Your logic "it limits what can be designed by the developers" basically says "play the game our way or don't play it at all" Your point about using the RPG to run over the "prophet of City 17" guards doesn't hold water because the RPG max ammo is only 3 rockets, and only does 100 damage anyway. And how you gonna say Doom Eternal has the same situation as Halo 2 when you can literally use the chainsaw at any point to fill the ammo of every single weapon except the BFG? lmfao

[@staledorito6174]

Mad halo 2 is the best fps ever made

[@Phantom_Aspekt]

Been a PC player most of my life, my choice for the better game is easily Halo 2. Before watching the video these are my reasons for thinking that. Half-Life 2 feels like an extended tech demo and the gun play felt dated even back in 2004. Halo 2 in comparison has gun play that feels fine for modern players with the only missing piece being an ADS system (Halo plays better without that though IMO) and then you have the story that actually feels like a continuation from the first game along with superior vehicle gameplay, far more engaging story, more interesting visuals and much better multiplayer. Overall it was and still is a better package on its own than Half-Life 2 on its own. I am quite biased towards Halo though, the years of playing and moding Halo Custom Edition on PC has a lot to do with it. That and my massive love for Halo 3. As ground breaking as the Source engine was, the moding tools left a lot to be desired for me. The Hammer tool in particular is quite possibly the biggest POS modding tool I have ever had the displeasure of using, If you ever wondered why majority of community made maps for the Source engine look ridiculously simple and or low quality, that tool is why... Every modifiable Halo game allows you to make a high quality map in a proper 3D modelling program, the source engine does not.