Halo Infinite is Underwhelming - Lawrence & Bruce Talk to the Internet

[@gaming6feetunder925]

I miss Bruce and Lawrencce on FH. They're the outspoken ones. James is a comedy machine. And Adam is a dead pan genius. Elyse is a comedy goddess. But these two have interesting views about video games and are always skeptic.

[@Jake-gp1ik]

At least there's Alanah still. She's not on as often as the others but when she is she fills in that hole pretty well imo

[@johnphills2402]

@@Jake-gp1ik nah, she doesn't fill the Lawrence imo. Lawrence is a cynical old man in alot a ways, and I miss that at Funhaus. Edit: also, her viewpoints rarely move from what would be mainstream, and I like that Lawrence would always make me think about something in a different way then the way I saw it.

[@gaming6feetunder925]

@@Jake-gp1ik Alannah is great. I thought she was great at IGN. She works for Funhaus part time, at least you hats what she said on one her recent videos. I think she's great being cause her age is what most funhaus viewers are close to and not prehistoric like the other guys

[@gaming6feetunder925]

@@johnphills2402 she's not supposed to fill a spot, embrace the new people, don't try to fit them In a missing hole

[@sageemerald7685]

I like them free better.

[@IronMan9771]

Personally, I'm kind of just whelmed by halo infinite. Not overwhelmed. Not underwhelmed. Just whelmed.

[@zcritten]

This is the problem, people get over hyped to all hell. I was expecting to see halo look amazing and that was really their big game and it really didn't do much. The playstation event wasn't much better but at least watching that I laughed and I was like "I'm really excited about this". All the Xbox news was like "oh yeah that's kinda cool I guess" "that's state of decay again?" Just not really what you want from the BIG showcase.

[@zcritten]

@@Vedit0r the thing is, a lot of the complaints are "we've been hyped for years and then it's shown and it looks so normal" and why wasn't ray tracing enabled? The thing is moving away from graphics the gameplay overall doesn't look super amazing (not a big halo player) people are right to expect a big jump. And why show a January build? Why isn't raytracing enabled? Raytracing does run in games that some people have played. Enough a lot of games use it as standard. So I don't think it's wrong for people to feel not super happy. If this is what Microsoft were happy to show, we can say "I don't think it looks very good" we shouldn't be expected to make excuses for the billion dollar company trying to advertise to us

[@zcritten]

@@Vedit0r again the thing that's just not selling me is how they want me to spend £500 and then can't guarantee any benefit. Gamepass seems worthwhile but I can just get that on pc if I really wanted to. Overall Xbox priorities seem off. Like they seem to often be. Xbox one started with multi media and kinect as the two big things, and that hampered them greatly, then mid way through they started trying to bring in system sellers. And I don't think it worked great either. And now gamepass is a super good system. But it's got to the point where when trying to sell their big console, they seem still focussed on game pass meaning there doesn't feel like a big reason to buy the Xbox over the ps5 for me. The games looked like gamepass games and as someone who has always looked at halo enviously, I'm kinda not impressed. And the ray tracing thing is understandable, but the ps5 showcased tons of amazing looking games, with a lot of it looking great and looking entirely next gen and generally more interesting to me. If you are excited for halo then that's cool, but us there anything else super compelling other than that. Console wars is dumb but if we consider the console balance board Xbox just isn't doing enough to tip the scales right now when it should be pushing hard for its giant black box.

[@Vedit0r]

they should!

[@utisti4976]

This is literally the first time I have heard someone saying the word "whelmed".

[@mariachipotter6875]

If I wanted to play Halo CE, I have the MCC. Nothing outside of the grappling hook looks new. When playing those big open levels in Halo not once I thought, " ohh man, I wish I could go anywhere". They were awesome because they were contained sandboxes with fun skirmishes in between set pieces.

[@Aaron_K]

I can see Bruce's point about "Console launch exclusive" but they have used this phrase before, it just means when the game comes out on consoles it's coming to xbox first.

[@bombomos]

No for halo though. Only PC and Xbox

[@cemarz]

Correct. Microsoft has been using misleading doublespeak for years. Often to tell white lies that their games are exclusive.

[@Dingus343]

Just on open world halo, to me some of my favourite levels were the more open ended levels where you had options like what order do you rescue your fellow soldiers at the second level driving a warthog or silent cartographer where you had access to a hole island. So going open world to me isn’t crazy

[@pavma7]

Honestly the first trailer looked a lot better than the gameplay.

[@Tport712]

I think they said the trailer was at the time the most progress they had in game. Whereas the game play we got was one of the initial builds. So yes it would look better. At the end of the day though the game is going to run on PC better than any console

[@tecarlos]

@@Tport712 but it was being ran on a pc.......

[@Tport712]

@@tecarlos they said it was being ran on Xbox one?

[@tecarlos]

@@Tport712 that's not true, its running on a pc.

[@loirigudo]

Lawrences idea about the day/night cycle on the halo ring sounds awesome tbh

[@GoB1996]

I believe it was confirmed that the ring will have a day and night cycle!

[@mazzucac]

Simpel Music it was

[@Nothin95pecial]

Tracking the light from the beginning of gameplay to the end, the sun seems to be shining NEAR the ring at the start, and shining from behind the broken pieces towards the end.

[@Ae7herium]

I hope they don't go with a "4 Masterchiefs" thing. It would be ideal if you could bring your custom Spartan from multiplayer into co-op Campaign.

[@Johnspartan296]

I don't really mind the 4 Masterchiefs.

[@kjj26k]

@@Johnspartan296 It really sucks for LASO

[@Johnspartan296]

@@kjj26k Why? I don't see how the appearance of your character makes LASO harder unless you mean just having 4 players, but that's irrelevant and your character doesn't matter in that case.

[@Maru7en]

It would be funny if you just had to choose between marine, elite, odst, etc. A weaker character than a spartan

[@Maru7en]

Playable grunt in co op

[@B1GLUBAWSKI]

Apparently they're are using a dynamic not static lighting system in Halo, so light and shadow will change over the course of the day. But this makes a lot of the early build demo look graphically flat. Post launch ray tracing update may help... otherwise thought models and animations looked good and the textures were solid and gameplay looked fun

[@macnificent4]

@@deadlyydude5522 Yea...no one is going for that damage control other than bots

[@MechNominal]

Ok? Dynamic day night has been done before and done well... Red Dead had a dynamic day night system. It looks way better than this.

[@ELFSAR]

Anyone else notice that the ‘FIN” in INFINITE is a tiny bit emphasized by appearing 1st in the Halo title reveal?

[@loirigudo]

It just starts from the middle and works towards the edges, purely aesthetic.

[@michaelsteffensen6844]

The word Infinite itself kind of implies that too. They have confirmed Halo Infinite will be a "not live service" live service in the sense they will continue to add story content and updates to the game well after launch. I think the only reason they avoid the "live service" title is because of its bad reputation, but from their own description it sounds exactly like a live service.

[@shadowfragment]

Not the first time they promised to finish the fight. I'll believe it when it happens.

[@bombomos]

Also in the Cover art FIN is placed right above chief's head so when you crop it, it's a perfect fit

[@Gloraxi]

Huh, Bruce and Lawrence chatting about videogames. I have this strange feeling like I seen a channel like this.

[@johnmanton825]

I never knew i wanted a musou halo game until Lawrence said it but now it's all i want.

[@elolife1375]

The main villain is a follower of the villain from Halo Wars 2... Atriox I think was his name.

[@forever-fm1rw]

Really? I thought that was atriox

[@Mazlow23]

@@forever-fm1rw nope

[@AstonishingRed]

He looks horrible in both his aesthetic and graphics

[@legoguy217]

I remember the countless times Master chief had to save Cortana. I remember that one time in 3 and... That one time in 3. XD

[@andrewlunceford1984]

And in 4 and in 5

[@kjj26k]

@@andrewlunceford1984 There was no saving Cortana in Guardians, never was.

[@apolloptx]

@@andrewlunceford1984 4 and 5? What do you mean? What are those?

[@PersonPlaceThing1]

Spotting the drop of molten metal as the classic Xbox boot sequence was such a god catch! I looked back at it a few times and there are definitely a few frames where they have similar/same shapes and forms. Very cool

[@teehundeart]

42:00 i disagree. Games usually have a polished vertical slice to showcase internally. They could show that to the public. Just look at Last of Us 2, God of War, Ghost if Tsushima. They all had gameplay a year before launch

[@luger700]

Infinite needs a serious graphics overhaul. Those blocky pillars everywhere look horrendous and really make the game look dated. Delay it if you need to. Don’t force it out if it’s not ready.

[@tecarlos]

It didn't have ray tracing on, and wasn't using velocity architecture so it's a given to be a lot better at launch

[@panchopinon4546]

Throw some raytracing in there and a couple more months of work and it'll look great imo

[@franciscopinto9592]

I've been looking for you guys for the longest time. Wtf HAPPEN. I had a kid so I stop playing videogames for a while. You guys are not on inside gaming anymore? Where's the third guy.

[@BlardyBlah]

They moved on from inside gaming to Funhaus, and then from that to now them doing their own streams on twitch. James and Adam are still in Funhaus tho

[@whatsupmaaan894]

The Fellowship was disbanded. :(

[@franciscopinto9592]

@@whatsupmaaan894 😢

[@larrytaylor2692]

I wish they would get rid of the animated cross hair you can’t see the armor and sparks flying off the enemies because the cross hair is showing hits also and covering up the cool animations

[@Mythreial]

343 confirmed that co-op will be in Infinite.

[@Dan-vb7lz]

And 2 player splitscreen!

[@gimlifan12]

@@Dan-vb7lz Had hoped for the return of 4-player split screen

[@Chiefinnn]

ericb0207 4 player is confirmed

[@BenjermanKulandaisamy]

@@Chiefinnn not for split screen

[@Chiefinnn]

Benjerman Kulandaisamy yea it is

[@ianp3063]

How much was the budget again? 500 million?

[@Aearonjer]

I've played/owned every iteration of Forza. Started with Test drive on the Commodore 64/Amstrad. I use it to build cars and make liveries, take photos, post on media and so on. Not so big on the racing, more a demo derby/stock car guy. I grew up in a small town. This means tractor pulls, dirt speedways and go karts. Cars are huge part of Aussie culture. Ever heard of Summernats? Interiors will become better, more access to the cars, detail for suspension, engine bay and boot. Vinyl editor will have better resolution. Hopefully they add the ability to put decals on glass/headlights. Change out seats/steering wheels. More wheels to choose from and the ability to custom design and paint the centres only/add tyre lettering. More widebody options, international vehicle updates. So much can be improved, including the physics as mentioned. I personally would like to see more on the history of the cars, parts and people involved. Jeremy Clarkson has voiced information before, a cool feature. The Grand Tour fans understand. Driving in cars you rarely see, let alone can afford is worth it alone. Sound will hopefully get better also. From personal experience, using a controller is a more accurate experience in term of control. I had a logitech wheel and gearstick, it was boss, but felt 'loose'. If you're a car nut and have access, it's a must look.

[@apolloptx]

The open world is a huge mistake. Halo's gameplay isn't made for that. Making it an open world just means the developers don't have to craft memorable levels.

[@budthecyborg4575]

2:30 "All of the Microsoft games" No no no Lawrence, they meant ALL of the games in the ENTIRE showcase are coming to Game Pass. Including Stalker 2: gamerant.com/stalker-2-xbox-series-x-game-pass/ Including Warhammer Darktide: gamingbolt.com/warhammer-40000-darktide-coming-to-xbox-series-x-and-pc-in-2021 The one exception is the CrossfireX campaign specifically which has fine print stating that the "CrossfireX" free to play multiplayer game is coming to Xbox, but the campaign is sold separately.

[@harleybeta]

When Bruce cuts out cause of Spectrum "stop censoring my streamers!"

[@Sithedd]

Spectrum is the biggest garbo on earth

[@CrypticMantisTX55]

Bruce: "I think they should show gameplay in the events, and then story trailers later" I actually think the opposite. Show the concept of the game, and then be like "By the way, if this game interests you, go on the Xbox youtube channel and you'll find a more detailed gameplay explanation". If you're not interested in the game at all, seeing gameplay will get boring. But they should definitely release concept trailers and gameplay trailers the same day.

[@CrispyKing24]

I had the exact same thought!

[@thiefofhyrule8000]

Why would you want to see the story elements first? Wtf? So the story can be spoiled? Or so you can play the game, anticipating those big moments you saw in a trailer two years ago, taking 90% of the momentum/surprise away? That's such a dumb opinion. Gameplay is 80-90% of a game. For every ten minutes of cutscenes, you get hours of gameplay. Gameplay is the only thing that needs to be shown.

[@CrypticMantisTX55]

@@thiefofhyrule8000 ...what are you talking about? Do you honestly think when I said "story/concept trailer" I'm talking about spoiler-tier things? I'm talking about premise, world, setting, and a taste of what the gameplay is. The premise/world/setting doesn't even need to have it's own separate explanation; if you can communicate those things fairly effectively just by using gameplay snippets, that's great. (eg: this is a gothic setting, it's a 2.5D action-platformer, you're fighting monsters, you have different weapons and can level up, etc) I'm largely saying I don't need a drawn own explanation of nitty-gritty gameplay mechanics or a full playthrough of a scenario of the game. Absolutely, something like that should be up on a YT channel for people who ARE interested so they can go look at it for a better idea of deeper mechanics and gameplay flow. But the initial reveal should be relatively quick and cover the broad strokes of the game. Also try to tone down the douchey tone of your comments, it's unnecessary given we are talking about something as mundane and unimportant as game trailers.

[@loydzero]

This is me during Nintendo treehouse segments during the E3 streams. Oh look at this Bakugan Game. Yeah nah I'm good. I'll just watch someone summarize that stuff

[@Bammsaidthelady]

Halo Infinite Story - Red Thanos, Craig and Chief go to the Minecraft club to pick up nostalgia but just get too drunk and all get lost on the way home.

[@88Mulls88]

that new boss reminds me of the story main boss Garry from destiny 2

[@MrGanjie]

I like the idea of bigger worlds but I dunno how I feel about a open world If it was levels the size of a silent cartographer where everything felt vast, I'd be all in. Idk, I'll be optimistic (even if the big bad brute looks like the halo 3 monkey Easter egg)

[@superg33k12]

Thoughts on G4 coming back?

[@ruben2380]

Funhaus is G4.

[@EOTW0021]

Is G4 really coming back??...where did you hear this?

[@AoGbeverage16]

Simon Manikkam Funhaus is nothing but a shell of what it use to be I’m afraid... They’ve lost to many founding members

[@jorge15266]

@@AoGbeverage16 Dude as sad as I am to say it I agree with you. I haven't seen a video of theirs in weeks, though I'm still subbed to them. The last video I cared enough to watch was their video with Spoole and that was like 2 months ago or something. I don't know. Nothing they make seems appealing and the new personalities aren't something I enjoy all that much. It just isn't the same sadly.

[@ciaranatciaran]

EOTW0021 there is a trailer on twitter

[@user-ue8il6jx3b]

The real next gen thing I want to see is my save from the old console’s version of the game carry over to the new console. Because an upgraded version is cool but if it’s a game with a 20+ hour campaign I’m not just gonna start up halfway through again for better graphics

[@MrEzjabba]

Thats already a thing. On Xbox it's called cloud save but I'm not sure if PlayStation has it.

[@zcritten]

I think a lot of playstation games had general release windows when released. I assume they're not doing proper release dates for a slight bit of flexibility

[@joelrichardson8771]

Tbh although it's sad to see it getting rinced, halo infinite needs that tough love because I think everyone wants it to be good, and look good, let's hope Microsoft and 343 listen. I'm ok with them delaying and taking their time I want a finished polished game not clay

[@QueeferSutherlands]

I felt very underwhelmed with all the hype of the new Halo engine.

[@zabukoii8081]

I miss hearing you guys together in funhaus

[@joepapi619]

Mmm mmm mmm this man just said anachronistic

[@606hunter1]

I'm mostly just concerned about Microsoft saying that their first party games will be cross gen for the first 2 years of the console cycle. I liked the art style and trailers for a fair amount of the games but I wish we were shown some gameplay. That said, not much time left for the launch of the new consoles which is exciting.

[@Tport712]

ODST had all the night shit spartans should be able to do the same thing. I hope they do this and put in some weapon customization

[@apolloptx]

Fuck weapon customisation. This isn't CoD.

[@Tport712]

@@apolloptx no it's halo. And it has had plenty of weapon customization over the years, clearly you don't play the game. Nerd.

[@apolloptx]

@@Tport712 Over the years? Oh you mean the two abortions that 343 shit out and that every 12 year old wannabe weed toker CoD player loved? "Awesome I get to have a pizza camo on my gun, in a franchise that once had dignity and self respect!" Yeah, that's not Halo.

[@AnthonyAlvarado78]

I don't have a love for this game....however...I'm excited there's a huge lineup of games for gamepass. Great value and lots of options to check out.

[@tomblewomble3369]

They need to improve the selection on pc though. Was gutted we missed our on red dead 2.

[@AnthonyAlvarado78]

I believe they are moving that way. Available on both and thru streaming. If the gamepass is successful. You can stream...choose to have a dedicated and consistent gaming console....or pimp out ur PC every year to increase performance. Lots of options.

[@tomblewomble3369]

@@donventura2116 Whats wrong with that? Console makers make little to no money from the hardware, it's the software that gives them a profit.

[@tomblewomble3369]

@@donventura2116 i dont think it would. Console gamers are mostly a very different demographic to pc gamers. Taking an agnostic approach allows them to reach the broadest possible consumer base. As far as I can tell it's a no brainer.

[@tomblewomble3369]

@@donventura2116 Totally agree, let's see what happens.

[@sparhawk1228]

Um... What are you guys talking about? There's no ray tracing in that Halo: Infinite gameplay demo. Was confirmed RT is being added to the game after launch in an update.

[@Sithedd]

The demo looks bad. The textures are super muddy, animations are dated, and it pretty much looks no better than 5.

[@mayman4255]

The problem is the lighting.

[@luvenpelagius1072]

The main villain's face looked really unpolished

[@spartanK42]

@@luvenpelagius1072 That and they somehow thought it would be okay to make him have a speech that goes on forever.

[@PreparedDeath]

They said Ray Tracing wasn’t active on this Demo but will be available at a later date. Edit: it’s called Infinite because they are dropping the numbers, this is going to be supported for a while. I’m guessing more like MCC, so adding additional story and multiplayer for a long time after release.

[@w77eed]

4 player co-op, 2 split screen campaign and 4 split screen multiplayer.

[@MainGoldDragon]

FINALLY Someone that doesn't circlejerk on the Halo Infinite Demo and can see that it's not good.

[@Dagoroth55]

It was terrible even for an early build.

[@MainGoldDragon]

@@Dagoroth55 And to think that it's not an early build. It's a build 5 years in the making.

[@jackb2]

In the beginning of the Halo trailer, I couldn't stop playing the theme from Westworld in my head.

[@chriss.9398]

As long as it's not 4 or 5 I will be happy. I loved 1-3, ODST, and Reach. I am really excited about the gameplay here though so my expectations are pretty high!

[@Stormcrownn]

I hope they can release a video with the shadows fixed and maybe some touched up textures. I think it would do a lot. There's just such a clear lack of ray tracing...

[@rockwallcat]

Man this was great the only thing that would make it better is if we had Adam, James and Elyse. You guys should collab together. Maybe make a single youtube channel. Find an Australian woman. Idk just a thought

[@Montyandrew45]

I mean Chief thumps when he walks because that is 2 tons of Spartan-II and armor

[@saulaula2]

they reduce the canon weigh to 450~. or spartan IV i think8

[@Montyandrew45]

@@saulaula2 I think the II's are different mainly due to the difference in augments. The II's had it done as teens and the IV's were already fully grown adults

[@JormungandrTheWorldSerpent]

He’s a half ton. 1000 lbs. still a lot tho

[@Mondo_117]

As always I hate the click-baity titles but the content is pure quality. It was nice to hear a measured discussion.

[@TheAwwWtf]

Ray-tracing firefights lighting the battlefield is one of those ideas no developer bothers trying and it's a damn shame, it'd be so aesthetic Same with a flare being shot over a battlefield with raytracing, would look amazing.

[@IronMan9771]

Now that I think about it, I'm a bit worried how much Microsoft seems to be chipping away at the idea of game ownership. Yes, game pass is great value for money, but you don't own any of those games. Even with the MCC on PC, even if you bought the game, you cannot play it unless you sign in to Xbox live. Even the single player completely locks you out unless you sign in. I can't help but feel like they're going to just push this further and further as we go into the next console generation. Hell, they already tried to take away the idea of buying used games with the launch of the last generation. That was too much at once, so they retracted, but that's still the direction they want to go

[@luminomancer5992]

Well, technically you own no games that you have bought from any digital store except gog, they all have clauses that they can take away your ownership pretty much at any time

[@Imsosappy]

While I like Game Pass, my biggest gripe is that many of the games don't include the DLC only the base game. And while I think it is understandable for 3rd party games, this also applies to some 1st party games like State of Decay 1 and 2. Usually I wait to buy games so I can get them bundled with all their DLC unless I really want to play day 1. If wait and buy all the DLC bundled with the game then I don't really need Game Pass since I'll now own my own copy.

[@JormungandrTheWorldSerpent]

I use game pass as a cheap trial run. I used the 1 dollar first month special they had to try prey, metro exodus, and outer worlds. I liked metro and outer worlds so once those went on sale I bought them. I’ll probably get another month once they add enough new games I want to try

[@AZjesse1]

Imagine if they showed off a action packed gameplay of just some crazy space battles or something to really show off what the new console can do and show how baddass infinite will be. A bunch of missed opportunities

[@GoB1996]

Imagine halo battle royale! Think of the Delta mission from Halo 2 or the intro to ODST. all 100-200 (however many players they can fit) hanging in drop pods from the infinity or something over the BR map. Then like in the ODST mission you see everyone and then you drop out of the ship! Switch to third person then be able to control the drop pod to where you want to go. Think that’d be a cool way to give BR that halo touch.

[@conc782]

I am immediately triggered by the title because I am beyond hyped for Halo Infinite.

[@SirPerfectful]

Same! Switching from PS4 to Xbox Series X cuz Playstation showcase was very meh and it didn't look like they tried. And this isn't the last Xbox showcase!

[@brayanmartinez9063]

@@SirPerfectful Lol okay xD

[@zcritten]

@@SirPerfectful playstation didn't look like they tried? Like I'd get if this showcase sold you on gamepass. But the actual console itself has done nothing with this. If anything this makes me wanna upgrade my pc to play these games Ps5 has a stupid amount of amazing games and I'm already part of that ecosystem so I'm happy staying pc and Playstation

[@boulderthefat154]

SirPerfectful ohh shiny 😂

[@TheGenericDavis]

@@SirPerfectful Not sure how you're making that call considering the state of console exclusives unless you're just all in on Gamepass. All Xbox has on my radar at all is Halo, Gears, and Forza. And that's with Halo/Gears both well past their peak and Forza just the other side of the racing coin from Gran Turismo. Playstation having the next Spiderman, Horizon Zero Dawn, and God of War is enough to keep me on the PS5 when it comes out.

[@kvonjaco]

To me it seems like Halo: Breath of the Wild. Which could be pretty cool in my opinion.

[@RenegadeKillzone]

Yeh but did it have Bugsnacks?

[@kjj26k]

Gotta have _Bugsnacks_

[@ScottKasprick]

I just got a 360 in April 2020 and working on beating Halo 3 for the third time - this looks good to me :D

[@MrTrago269]

I will just clarify that bald brute dude wasn't Atriox (antagonist from Halo Wars 2), I assume it was just some sort of his general, because Atriox doesn't have an arm (has robotic one) and has dreadlocks :D But overall, I don't know how to feel about it, hopefully it won't be a letdown.

[@thomasehwhite]

Microsoft has the Azure cloud platform which is a huge leg up on the competition. Whether they can figure out how to market cloud gaming opportunities to gain a distinct edge over the next 5 years is uncertain though. I work at a business that has switched to using the Azure cloud for most of our business needs going forward, and these Xbox offerings sound very similar to the Azure subscriptions and security offerings we've been buying of late.

[@mayman4255]

Not even in the next 5 years, Microsoft is already making moves with Samsung,they want Xcloud on phones and Smart TVs to introduce gaming in the third world.

[@ThomasCarlotto]

Litterally the only thing that captured my interest was Forza

[@budthecyborg4575]

23:34 "I still don't understand why it's called Infinite" This ship: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4SXZYZ6rsqFr5Y

[@budthecyborg4575]

Quite frankly the least disappointing thing about Halo 5 was the cliffhanger ending that gave us a Battlestar Galactica situation. I really hope they play into that premise somehow.

[@kjj26k]

It's called _Halo Infinite_ because it's a live service...(with a 10 year plan to boot!)

[@Kschreck]

The Pelican interior, Chief and Pilot all looked really detailed and nice but as soon as they step outside of the Pelican the rest of the game is incredibly low quality. What a mess! At one point I saw a Phantom fly right through a tree.

[@pyrosp41]

It barely hits the tip of the tree, and easily fixable, just calm down. this was a reveal for gameplay not visuals. I think they underestimated how much scrutiny this reveal would get cause haters are out.

[@wizzenberry]

Screen space reflection? Wut

[@Nick-4K]

Master Cheeks... I mean Chief.

[@stuartthomson4563]

The trailer v gameplay discussion is interesting. The reason for trailers instead of gameplay is for shareholders/investors. Shareholders don't care about gameplay just overall numbers of future projects.

[@terryhalsteadgamer]

Lawrence good Sir! You are and have been since IG my guy to go for the tech and details for nerd shinanigans. You know you're stuff! And you're not biased! Could imagine you doing a small series on here educating us like before, but on the stuff you like and want to talk about. Bring back laptop Lawrence! haha, or not that's fine. But hey! I'd watch that stuff! You got a lot of knowledge and experience, share it with us :D

[@quinn9598]

Agreed - 100% up for his take son the industry! He’s pretty much the only “gaming sceptic” (if you can call him that) who doesn’t annoy me to no end. Lawrence makes great points even if highly critical of things I enjoy, a lot of other KZbinrs seem to whine for the sake of it 😂

[@joepapi619]

Fable 2 was really fun local co-op. Probably the best local co-op game i have ever played outside of nintendo titles.

[@BlacknRedTed]

Bruce missed the point with the Destiny 2 being apart of this. The next major DLC is in gamepass. The yearly $40 is in gamepass for Xbox and PC players....THATS HUGE !!!

[@andresperezzepeda1990]

Question, what do you think from Alanah's comments on this game on IG?, i didn't like the game from what i saw on the gameplay but i felt she was trying to not be harsh on the game in order to not hurt her future chances on interviews with 343i

[@Jordan-hh8wo]

Eh I thought it looked interesting and I’ll buy and play it. I assume a lot of people are the same way, maybe her too

[@the_dietcam]

Lawrence is right about Forza being about the "prestige". Racing in general is the epitome of competitive human nature. Can casual players play Forza and have fun? Yeah, no doubt. It does have to be accessible. There's plenty of things happening behind the scenes to help a controller player race just as good as someone with a wheel. Now we can argue all day of which is "faster" (wheel vs. controller) but all data says it doesn't matter. The prestige of it is to turn off all the assists, understand the game engine and physics, hone your skills in racing, and be faster than the competition - whether that be bots or real players, and on any track that is accurately represented with a P.I. system that accurately places cars on leaderboards that you can also look up online for the IRL tracks (take the record 1:51.30 on Laguna Seca with a BRZ for example: it should be nearly impossible for you to achieve that time in-game because of how realistic it is). IRL, racing is about feeling as much as you can, and that's what separates good racers from the best racers, and good cars from race cars. The best racers understand and feel more than the good players. They understand what, where, why, and how a car is reacting to the input on a given track surface. The physics engine needs to be as real as possible for prestigious players to feel as relatable as possible. Hence the "sim". Forza (and GT) are pretty much the only 2 approachable "sim" racers because they wont kick your ass for using a controller. Asetto Corsa or iRacing are terrible for casuals, but they also dont look the greatest or have the most impressive garage lineups. Forza is taking a step forward to try and be more like AC and iR, but still maintain the unbelievably gorgeous graphics, 400+ cars, dozens of tracks, weather and time conditions. Not only that but it's rumored now that Forza Motorsport will now add in garage and team management, seasons, a fully fledged campaign, possible open-world elements, wayyyyyy better graphics (no more 2D trees and GTA Vice City character models in the stands), and the HUGELY improved physics that AC and iR dont have (dynamic track temp, rubber being added to the track, air density and the way it affects downforce & power, etc). Will forza be the next closest thing to real life? No. But we can still say we have the better game, and a fantastic sim. This might be that game that can turn people who like racing into people who love racing. With the whole quarantine thing happening, we can already see that racing wheels are pretty much out of stock everywhere. Those people have invested themselves into the platform, and they should be taking advantage of it by buying Forza on Xbox or PC, and i think that's exactly what's going to happen. Cars and Racing is a culture meant to be welcoming, and rewarding for those with experience. That's probably why every KZbin gaming network like FunHaus or anyone except the racing channels stay away from racing and kinda brush it off because they're not part of that culture and this "prestige" that's present. If anyone at FunHaus really is a petrolhead, i encourage them to maybe make some solo videos and show some gameplay and what exactly everything i wrote means, but in real-terms as it comes to gameplay in this new Forza game and how it compares.

[@AaronRoydhouse]

@Lawrence, a Halo ring is just slightly smaller diameter than Earth. Even if chief grapple-launched himself at the supersonic speeds to would take around 12 hours to get to the other side of the ring. If Chief has a rocket-pack with 3G acceleration and unlimited, weightless, fuel, he could cross the ring in about 30 minutes. I think the teleport rings are a more pragmatic game choice :-)

[@HypeVectorPrime]

As a classic halo fan this all just seems like a vapid attempt at a cashgrab, what made halo was the super deep lore that was there to support a fantastic physics sandbox, what made the sequels was the expansion of said sandbox, each and every item and ability in halo has a gameplay purpose and plays a role in the sandbox while also having deep lore, when bungie added a new weapon it meant something, now they just have all these new guns that all look super generic. They havent showed the multiplayer yet but if gears is any indication then it's going to be a vehicle for mtx, and people will eat it up like assholes. Halo is dead.

[@gray240]

feel like your just mad at halo for the fuck ups of halo 4 and 5 will be more to come all we saw was just tiny snippet of a few new weapons and 2 new equipment its all on how it feels to play as the player in the full game not an old build made for a show case hard to get a sense of how it feels from watching pre recorded game play.

[@HypeVectorPrime]

@@gray240 no, I'm mad because the new weapons not only look generic as fuck in design, but there is also a shit ton of them for seemingly no reason and none of them belong in a halo game. Also I quite like halo 4 for what it was. I'm not just some wannabe halo fanboy, I've played each game extensively and enjoyed aspects of each.

[@justchillingdogg7924]

You guys were talking about ray tracing in this demo, however there is no ray tracing in this demo. Xbox confirmed it will come in a future update. Their wording implied it will be post launch tho

[@Trex395]

It’s difficult to convey graphics effectively while streaming. I’m still going to get it

[@KM-jb3vg]

The build for the halo gameplay is from january, that demo has gassed me up for the game so much, reach weapons, classic halo style enemies, colourful more fantasy palette and halo wars 2 style cross, the banished are amazing the new additions amazing

[@KM-jb3vg]

Feel like I have to be so careful what i say in comments because of the amount of nitpicking people do if i put in one sentence that people chose to focus on they ignore the rest of my comment and that just makes me want to delete it entirely

[@KM-jb3vg]

Guessing by the thanos statement you haven't played halo wars 2

[@KM-jb3vg]

Ofcourse they are gonna have co-op its halo

[@KM-jb3vg]

I'm writing along with this like I'm watching the stream I have no self control

[@KM-jb3vg]

A point I do hope you see but probably not is the part you address with the whole dropping into coop and running off separately to do different objectives, you've been able to do in previous halos to a much smaller scale but I remember the mission in ce you go to one place see something is locked down then go to undo lockdown to get into the first place, in coop one could go to open the door the other could head off and clear the area and do the next objective while the other makes their way back over to extract at mission end

[@MadMrMatter]

I wish 343i would come up with their own game, I want to see what they can do

[@RhysClark97]

i people that just want to make hot takes have been far too harsh on this game, and i havent played halo since halo 3

[@silvy3047]

Lawrence hit the nails on the head without without whining like the halo community

[@guydangerus2468]

Why not have the battle royal as a separate game type like infection?

[@monotonedmika17]

now, imagine if Bruce and Lawrence both joined G4TV.

[@AutumnOnFire]

Hm, it's hard to say as to whether or not I'll sign up for game pass. I'm content with the games I have and the games I haven't even BEGAN to play. The problem is that I like to own stuff. I don't like having to pay a subscription to anything, really, not unless I feel the subscription is warranted and the content is good. There's already plenty of games I haven't even began to touch, so tacking on a subscription to something I already have seems pointless. Additionally, if I enjoy something, I don't want to pay for it again and again if I paid once already. Charge me the full amount to use it, or I just won't use it. If you choose to go one sale, that's on you. If you choose to give me a good deal, that's on you. You don't get to hold the things I use and enjoy hostage for money. If I paid for it, it's mine, you don't get to revoke or inhibit my ability to play it. For example, if I am playing Halo Infinite on game pass, for let's say $20 CAD ($16.99 + tax) a month, and you're telling me that after 7 months of having it, and I mean only HAVING it, it's taken away at the 8th month because I cancel my subscription, then I'd be pissed. Life gets in the way. Not everyone has time to play games, especially if they're working or doing other things. Unless I'm finishing and enjoying about 2.5 games per year, I'm not justifying the $240 CAD i'd be spending to play that game (Games are about $80- here in Canada so I imagine the individual game price would increase to $90 in the future) or at the very least, I'm not getting a good deal compared to if I just had bought the game to own, and then choose to play it later when I am available to. I'm 21, so I don't know much about life, but I'm pretty sure I can extrapolate that adults don't have a lot of time on their hands to do what they want, so I doubt i'd have that much time either. Their argument is that the value of game pass is really good, and they're right! But only in the context of the game pass itself. There's only so many hours in a day, and unless you're spending a majority of your time playing games, which you shouldn't do anyway it's probably not healthy, it doesn't sound worth itt. That's just me though, tell me where I'm wrong.

[@chrisrichfield8906]

2.5 games a year? You could beat 3 games in a month, only playing 2 hours a day. I guess if you dont play games that much it would be an issue. The game will be sold to own for 60$ though so I dont see the issue. If you dont want gamepass you dont need it.

[@elolife1375]

It would be cool if you meet up with halo wars 2 squad and the coop players make up red team

[@insertnamehere2746]

Conceptual/rendered trailers are absolutely fine so long as Microsoft titles their event to make sure people understand that there wont be any actual gameplay (alpha, beta, or otherwise)

[@Evan056]

Do y'all think that Halo will actually make for fun open world gameplay or will it turn into a tedious "tower climbing and clear" fest?

[@sletrent]

I need a nice driving (not racing) sim on consoles. Make American Truck Sim but with cars.

[@JormungandrTheWorldSerpent]

Isn’t that what the crew is? Haven’t played it but from what I’ve seen you can just drive around. Funhaus did a video of them just driving across the country

[@pavma7]

Im really interested in seeing a open world halo, because most halo levels were way better than Far Cry, Rage etc. Because the levels were big but still fairley linear. I don't know if this is going work or maybe even bore the player with stuff he has seen so often already.

[@RhysClark97]

20:35 but i have literally no want to play a game on my phone or to stream it, i want to download it and keep it...

[@goldenboy7on780]

This is the problem with all the hype trains being built in the game industry. It’s hard for games to live up to people’s expectations and make the hardcore fans happy. They need pre-order sales for obvious logistical reasons, but people only get let down when their expectations are built up. Cyberpunk 2077 of example. We as consumers need to be realistic, but remain critical when there are issues. Ultimately, we should exercise the freedom of speech, which is why it’s ok to state our opinions.

[@Nodiee1]

I'm always kind of surprised how much focus and money gets put on F-1 games. No hate but it just seems like it would be so niche. Maybe it's not so expensive to make because it seems to be more or less the same thing every year but prettier?

[@matth.4320]

And I am just so thrilled that now Halo doesn't have blood showing anymore so we can get that T rating we have all been hoping for. And China won't restrict the game!

[@boulderthefat154]

If it’s got weapon and armour modification it would be cool.

[@apolloptx]

Nope. This is Halo. Not CoD. That shit isn't part of its identity. Not every game needs customisation.

[@elijahorr4188]

It would be cool if they had a 4 player co-op (on the same console) and the other three players would be the rest of blue team.

[@ChrisAce117]

For me the big difference between gt sport and Forza is the physics. Cars handle much better in gt sport, Forza cars are way too light and slide too easily. Also Forza online racing used to be chaos, but it's getting better

[@ChrisAce117]

Love the art in everwild hope it comes to pc

[@user-ue8il6jx3b]

I see the map traversal getting really bland for halo infinite, since the map is a massive strip and that would be so boring to get to one portion of the map without using fast travel. But if it worked like a mouso game like Lawrence said that would be fuckin dope

[@caleballen8633]

I'm fine with the graphical downgrade if it means no more loading screens, gameplay is just more important. (to me at least )

[@garysgame0]

Give me a 3rd person halo not staring John 117

[@Harperlarp]

Why don't studios just do what Bethesda did for Fallout 4 and Skryim? Wait until the game is a few months out from launch and drop a gameplay trailer that actually represents the game. You don't need to spend 5 years spending millions to generate hype.

[@StayFractalesque]

is it a next gen game if you can play it on last gen hardware.. I mean, truly.. also, these games should be way beyond alpha builds at this point.. the console launches in a few months, why don't they show gameplay