Halo Infinite Story Was Almost Perfect

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Halo Infinite Story was almost perfect, it did have its faults but most of the issues I had were either very minor or could easily be fixed with the introduction of a DLC.
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Music In Order Courtesy of Halo Infinite OST
• Halo Infinite Official...
0;00 Through The Trees
8;49 Zeta Halo
16;09 Under Cover
Outro: Orca Vibes - Gypsy
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Hope You Enjoyed!
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[@Gingy]

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[@MrEditorsSideKick]

NO

[@BLackshadow117100]

She actually snapped her finger in the opening cutscene for halo 2 mission regret when she translated regrets message about the ring but I understand it's a small detail and I'm a huge halo fan love the video

[@Gingy]

Thanks for letting me know, I completly forgot she did that.

[@BLackshadow117100]

@@Gingy your welcome and I agree with your points specially with master chief and I love halo wars 2 so it was nice seeing a familiar face from it

[@brucebarnes802]

Yea lol I remembered that too. The ONE time she really ever did that snaping thing😂.

[@Schmage]

I think within the first hour or so they threw in little call backs to each other Halo game. Either a line a character says, the way chief shoots the pistol at the tank like the Halo 4 trailer, or when he opens the door and it really feels like he's going to say "to give the covenant back their bomb". It really felt like they tried to throw in a piece of each Halo

[@RoachCatJr]

@@Schmage which H4 trailer does Chief shoot a pistol at a tank ?

[@pipe2theface269]

the ending definitely wasnt time travel, it was just the conversation that took place during the period displayed. the argument saying it was time travel since chief was gone for three days isn’t really solid, a counter argument to that is he was just gone, stuck between reality and the portal. teleporting in halo isnt an instantaneous action, it takes a lot of time between entering and exiting. that time was always skipped in previous halo games. (Edit ->) some more proof that atriox didnt time travel is the lack of a date during the non legendary post credits scene. It only shows up in the version with the audio

[@thedead073]

If he was stuck between reality and the portal that is still time travel

[@pipe2theface269]

How. It’s similar to lightspeed in star wars. Sure it speeds things up but it still take a decent amount of time to go from A to B, many times starwars characters are doing things while in lightspeed. that’s essentially what’s happening to chief except hes in a limbo state and its over a long period of time(3days). Edit: ig its time travel in a technical sense sure. Like it does take time to travel from A to B. But not in the traditional way stories portray it

[@kodymcgrath8002]

@@pipe2theface269 Depending on how it is actually explained it could be time travel. It could be like the original planet of the apes where the ship went so fast that time wasn't relevant in the same way it was to Earth. Or it could even be similar to cryosleep or a cryptum where years can pass on the outside without anything happening within. Even if they went this route I agree with you that Atriox didn't travel in time because the possible explanation I gave only applies to traveling forward in time

[@pipe2theface269]

@@kodymcgrath8002 that would be really interesting if they went the planet of the apes route, although i personally wish and think they took the cryosleep/cryptum route. because it doesn’t seem like anything changed within chiefs “limbo zone” i dont really know what else to call it lol. he entered the portal and exited, to him it was instant, but for everyone else it was three days.

[@shizar998]

@@kodymcgrath8002 its time travel like sleeping is time travel. to you a skip in time, to the rest of the world not so much, when people talk time travel they mean forwards and backwards manipulation of time, if you have to say it was technically only forwards time travel, then its not really that relevant to the story.

[@89p26]

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought it was appropriate to kill Escharum with his friend's sword. There was no reason for me to do that infact it was down right dangerous for me to get that close to his gravity hammer yet I felt compelled to. It's cool how games can make u feel that way.

[@zucciniii1878]

Whenever I watch a playthrough and I see the person decide to finish escharum with a battle rifle just outright cringes me. I went head on and challenged him to some glorious melee combat.

[@shizar998]

@@zucciniii1878 i did too, on legendary, you couldnt even see his health anymore and i said "a meele should do", he hit me like if i was a baseball, send me flying across the room. second try, he hit a box with the hammer and it fell on top of my sword so i couldnt picked it up, had to finish him of with the br, sorry escharum.

[@Flavadave555]

Same thing happened with me. Had no intention of it going into the fight with Esch, but when I had him down to one hit left it just clicked in my mind and I charged him with that red sword when I had completely forgot I had it for the entire fight lol. It felt so damn good, and that was absolutely a purposeful intention on the part of the devs. Bravo, 343.

[@Calebe428]

fr, like they give you that thing for a reason lol

[@oberstmoos425]

Did you play on legendary?

[@imotekh6110]

There's a common misconception or I suppose more accurately confusion as Atriox to my understanding isn't back in time, the conversation just takes place at the time it shows. He's likely where the Endless are imprisoned at the present while still presumed dead.

[@Gingy]

Definitely a solid theory. Some have claimed that there is time travel thanks to the ending where chief exits a portal and the pilot said 3 days have passed but either way i think regardless of what’s right or not Atriox is up to something.

[@MakeItPerfectlyWrong]

Agreed. The time and voices only show during the legendary ending. Atriox is in current times and the voiceover is right before the Xalanyn are imprisoned by the forerunners.

[@imotekh6110]

@@Gingy This is true, however spending three days in transit it incredibly different to traveling backwards nearly 100000 years. I can buy the travel screwing with time and not depositing you entirely linearly but no traveling backwards so far. It's rather clear to me it's in the present, as was said the text to show the year and the vocoder only occur during the legendary endings.

[@existentialselkath1264]

The way I see it, Atriox got stranded on the ark and after the events of hw2, having been there for a long time the rest of the banished assume he's dead. The post credits are likely after Atriox finds a way back, which raises the question of where the spirit of fire is

[@MakeItPerfectlyWrong]

@@existentialselkath1264 The SoF is still on the Ark during the events of Divine Wind, which takes place post HW2 And Atriox returns to the Milky Way since Shadows of Reach and obviously there when he beats the shit out of master chief on the Infinity in the beginning of Infinite

[@ihatedaviddobrik9999]

I disagree with u when u say chief was using the pilot and the weapon. Chief has always cared for marines. In the beginning when he’s floating through space u see him tossing the dead covenant to the side but when he sees a dead marine he’s very gentle. Yes the pilot isn’t a marine but chief didn’t know that until later on. Chief will always risk his life to protect marines it’s part of what makes chief the savior of humanity. I don’t see chief only using the pilot

[@zucciniii1878]

I agree, he just didn't care for them on a personal level, and it's possible that he even felt a little insulted to have this new cortana filling the role of his old companion.

[@SpartanJ113]

The reason he‘s so cautious and ready to delete The Weapon is because he knows she’s a copy of Cortana and is afraid of her getting corrupted or breaking from her programming. He even states how his mission was to make sure she didn’t follow the same route as Cortana

[@jmaguire2232]

I mean, he basically lied to the pilot by ommission. I think the game wants to present his hyper-focused dedication in a more complex light by showing the that it can cause him to conceal his intentions from others in addition to being as admirable as previous game in the series have established. It seems like 343's goal with all of their narratives have been to add new dimensions to what had been established in previous games, like MC and Cortana's relatinoship in Halo 4.

[@jeffbezos3200]

My Master Chief regularly commits homicide for free ammo

[@OnePolishMoFo]

I want to point out that if people are saying the graphics are a downgrade they don't know the difference between graphics and an art style. Graphically this the best looking game in the series without a doubt. Artistically it's "simpler" than 4 or 5. It's far more akin to the Bungie era in style. Just because a game isn't "realistic" doesn't mean a game has bad graphics. Hell, I fucking love 2d pixelated sprites personally. That style is timeless. It will always look good regardless of time.

[@LostEnding_]

Honestly the art style for the banished armor felt kinda lazy, I would’ve liked them to stay a bit more loyal to the banished colors and armors from halo wars. Instead of re using or completely changing the armor but it’s honestly a nit pick.

[@Tyijl]

Also the the cutscenes are in-game this time around. Halo 4 and 5 had pre-rendered cutscenes

[@Uncleanwiener1231]

Halo 2 remaster and this look almost the same tbh

[@EmperorDxD]

@@LostEnding_ no they finally have new tech after halo wars

[@LostEnding_]

@@EmperorDxD Doesn’t mean they still couldn’t look like the same banished from halo wars half of then wear reach armor

[@existentialselkath1264]

It seems incredibly obvious that infinite will have story expansions/dlc. They spent almost an entire console generation remaking most of the engine to support open world environments and real time lighting, for what, so they could just focus on multiplayer and never actually utilise the new engine features and story for the next 10 years? No. they're obviously planning something. My guess would be a kinda live service story that will eventually lead up to a rematch with Atriox or something

[@BlazerManiacNumber96]

I'm assuming they'll release meaty expansions that feature new biomes of Zeta Halo. Maybe one a year or every two years or something

[@jbsleepy1098]

@@BlazerManiacNumber96 that would be sick. Give me a snow biome!

[@chickentenders3018]

Unfortunately we’re 7 months into the game and have gotten next to nothing in terms of additional content.

[@Whiteythereaper]

It's definitely a Live Service model, they want to support the game for 10+ years and the ending cutscene with Atriox does feel like it's referencing the Prometheans rather than the Endless, the Orange colouring and the music very much sounding like Halo 4. It would make sense that 343 would just want to copy & paste old assets and code straight into the engine as the multiplayer already does that with the armor assets ripped straight from Reach & the Unreal Engine's upscaled-versions for Halo MCC's menus likely acting as a proof-of-concept. Also, the game is literally called Infinite. As in Endless. That's why it's not called Halo 6. It's going to be chapters building on top of the Multiplayer client's install. The free-roam gameplay and environment generation very much lends itself to easy copy & pasting similar to how Assassins Creed or Call of Duty would repeat systems and assets for yearly releases. They could literally turn the game into Halo Minecraft with how their world generation could work for each chapter and it would allow for maximum dedication of the entire team to asset creation and cosmetic generation for the battlepasses

[@ityyax2931]

Ths has aged like milk hahahaha

[@zucciniii1878]

Atriox didn't travel back in time, he just found the endless and had opened their containment chamber with all their cylixes. We know this because the date that says 90,000 and something BC only appears during the legendary ending, and the voices if the grand edict and despondent pyre are from that time period, however the visuals are not.

[@subhadeepjasu292]

Exactly!

[@Axzealot]

She snaps her fingers during halo 2 when she was translating the Prophet of Regret but i think thats the only time she does it

[@Luxembourgish]

The Banished should not be genocidal, especially Atriox. The whole faction implemented different species (some of which who hate each other) because Atriox saw vengeance to be a petty emotion. The books show he recognizes that not all members of a species are responsible for the wrongdoings of a few. They reject feuds because they are pragmatic. The fact so many people think Atriox is genocidal, is a ruining of his character.

[@cromtuiseagain]

Cortana blew up his planet so his focus shifted to destroying everything she cares about, including Chief and the rest of the UNSC

[@Luxembourgish]

@@cromtuiseagain If it's just Chief and the UNSC that's fine (even though it goes against his character that vengeance is petty), but the Banished shouldn't be chanting for human genocide as they do in the game. Also Cortana doesn't care for the UNSC. She threatened to destroy Earth.

[@maritimesteak8540]

That's called character change chief isn't his normal character in infinite and that's because he has changed

[@Soccercrazyigboman]

Yes. There's so much wrong with the story. I can't believe people like it

[@sonicsucks2961]

Well whatever the goals of the Banished are the UNSC clearly won't like it so Atriox has to put them down or else they'll keep annoying them.

[@Bowfella]

I have the opposite opinion. At the start of the game both the main badguys are already dead or dealt with. So we're just aimlessly wandering around a ring trying to survive. We get introduced to some new bad guys, in the Harbinger and she's trying to bring back "The endless". Which is cool, until you find out you learn NOTHING about any of them. So basically you're caught between two major plot climaxes and you're just running errands. Imagine a new starwars movie comes out and it's about Rey finding a ship to get off of tatooine and going for lunch and when they reveal the antagonist it ends...

[@e.corellius4495]

i mean isnt that literally the force awakens? in my opinion the western entertainment industry as a collective whole forgot how to write sometime in 2012.

[@GeorgeMazur29]

Now that you mention how Eschareum is a great foil to Master Chief, there's a certain genius to it on a meta level. Just like how they're grizzled veterans coming back to a changing world to cement their legacy and show they still got it, Halo is a grizzled franchise coming back to a changing gaming landscape to show the new kids on the block what its all about. I also love how they not only blended different interpretations of Chief, but in how they show this blend. Reach did a lot of its characterization through excellent mocap and body language. Infinite seems to take this to the next level where you see the different layers of Chief from Halo 4 and the lore in his body language but what he says on the surface is mostly what Bungie was going for.

[@TrueGamer22887]

Listen the games fun but not a single thing in this game “changed the gaming landscape”

[@novustalks7525]

Atriox should have been the villain not escherum

[@mitchellmorris669]

@@TrueGamer22887 reread his comment bruh 😂

[@TrueGamer22887]

@@mitchellmorris669 oh that’s even worse than I thought lmao, giving it credit for copying the free to play and open world trends is not something to tip your cap for

[@Eclipse-mk3hm]

@@novustalks7525 you gotta wait till the sequel for atriox

[@OnePolishMoFo]

This is just off the top of my head and there are probably other examples. Cortana definitely snaps her fingers in Halo 2 when she translates the Prophet of Regret's sermon. I think it's the end of the Delta Halo level.

[@PolymurExcel]

Technically at the beginning of Regret, its hard to tell as those missions literally blend seamlessly.

[@LXavierW]

The trademark for "HALO: The Endless" was registered recently by Microsoft. Story dlc confirmed.

[@tylerricker230]

That doesn’t mean confirmed 😂 that could be for literally anything I’ll wait till I see an actual confirmation to believe it. We have never gotten a in game story dlc before in halo and I doubt it’s gonna start with this game but we will see

[@tylerricker230]

Took them long enough to just launch the game as barebones as it is rn you really think dlc is gonna happen?

[@starhammer5247]

@@tylerricker230 It's a *TEN YEAR GAME, THIS IS THE ONLY HALO GAME FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS,* it would be stupid to not put in story DLC, and it's a waste of money, that and since when is 343i going to follow Bungie's methods?

[@tylerricker230]

@@starhammer5247 just saying I think you are getting your hopes a little to high

[@tylerricker230]

@@starhammer5247 they could barely provide a game with hardly any content in it after like 6 or 7 years of development I just highly doubt they even thought about a dlc

[@LateNightHalo]

Fantastic video, you shared most of my thoughts about the game’s story.

[@stevemac6707]

First video of yours I have watched & good enough to get me subscribing straight after. Great breakdown, informative whilst being concise & to the point. A lesson many other similar channels have seemingly failed to master. Kudos 👍

[@dcjosh23]

I'd have to hard disagree about it being perfect :P To me it came off like Rise of Skywalker. A reactionary pivot relying on nostalgia to get back in some fans' good graces. Everything interesting they were setting up in 4 and 5 was relegated to "it happened off-screen months ago" and instead shoved things like brutes and monitors and forerunner tunnels and a smoother armor design to make you feel the H1 fanwank. The most interesting/intriguing thing 343 did was spend two games building up Cortana to be the villain and it's immediately handwaved away and replaced. I get some people didn't like it but I guess they're just too beholden to the comfortable formula. The game I REALLY want to play is the one we were only *told* about in holo conversations and (ugh) audio logs. Let me play the siege of the Infinity. Let me see chief vs Cortana. Let me witness and feel that betrayal chief must've been feeling seeing his best friend go off the rails. Give me the tragedy of hopelessness of the unsc vs an army of guardians. Not this trite nostalgia-bait because some people can't handle the story being taken in a new/different direction. I digress but, they abandoned their story just as it was about to get good all because some people whinged. I wasn't impressed with the story one bit :T

[@rosumparat]

My thoughts exactly.

[@StevoStaple]

Agreed

[@OktayKus1993]

Brother I agree 100% . This game feels amazingly unfinished. So much important lore stuff happem just out of screen/ game like how did the UNSC fight Cortanas Rebellion? How did the Banished get involved ? What happen to Halses a d the Arbeiter? HOW DID ATRIOX defeated Cortana anyway?? Its like a whole GAME is missing between 5 and Infinite. By the way infinite is ectremly repetitive and lazy we dont have any bin or epic moments, no scarap Fights nothig of a great scale just the Illusion of it. I Love the feel of the Gane mechanics feels like Halo but the Game is nothing special after 6 FULL Years of production time. They öiterally scam Microsofts money for years and created an half ass game as product plus wanted to make it an 10years life Service Plattform xD they reduced the KING of the GAMES to an Bargeld mediocre experience not worth to be remembered at all. I damit there some nice Story elements but this is not enough for a HALO game..

[@Leeleet1234]

THIS GAME WAS IN DEVELOPMENT FOR 6 YEARS AND THATS WHAT WE GOT????

[@OnyxLegacy]

We’ve already got an idea what will be happening for single player there’s already been a trademark it’s called Halo: The Endless From what it looks like we will be getting single player content but the question is when Edit: I forgot to mention this but it has been leaks that they are working on other projects could be DLC or spinoff games related to the franchise

[@StarWarsJibaro]

I have a theory that we might get dlc by the end of March since that is when the new Halo Encyclopedia launches.

[@OnyxLegacy]

@@StarWarsJibaro It could work but I do believe that will be a development cycle of six months to 1.5 years depending on the scale of the content

[@starhammer5247]

@@OnyxLegacy It'll either be them reusing assets that just weren't used, same with maps, dialogue and enemies. Or they'll have to start everything from scratch with the engine still around. It's really dependent on their situation.

[@Whiteythereaper]

@Star Hammer Minecraft style world generation, touch up the rough edges with AI and shit it out for another $60 of new dialogue from only 4-6 actors. Cutting corners wherever they can because Multiplayer will always be their main dedication, creating cosmetics and waiting until they can start ripping content they made for Master Chief Collection's battlepasses to save on workload

[@Brando2501]

I enjoyed the campaign. I think a big part of development went into the world we run around in and now we're set up for the next chapter in chiefs story.

[@Leeleet1234]

You were playing Halo Infinite, right? The game that was in development for 6 years. And we got.. that?

[@angelosmpesiropoulos7429]

@@Leeleet1234 Yea but imagine getting another halo 4 or 5 campaign...at least be grateful for this.and this campaign touches a 7/10.

[@Whiteythereaper]

The chunk of development went into the engine. Now that that's all done all they have to do is generate random environments like Minecraft worlds and plop them out as full-priced DLC expansion areas to continue the story at a much lower cost than making an entirely new game while they try and hook in multiplayer gamers with years of FOMO paid cosmetic content in the store and battlepasses

[@OktayKus1993]

Sorry brother but I disagree. This game feels amazingly unfinished. So much important lore stuff happem just out of screen/ game like how did the UNSC fight Cortanas Rebellion? How did the Banished get involved ? What happen to Halses a d the Arbeiter? HOW DID ATRIOX defeated Cortana anyway?? Its like a whole GAME is missing between 5 and Infinite. By the way infinite is ectremly repetitive and lazy we dont have any bin or epic moments, no scarap Fights nothig of a great scale just the Illusion of it. I Love the feel of the Gane mechanics feels like Halo but the Game is nothing special after 6 FULL Years of production time. They öiterally scam Microsofts money for years and created an half ass game as product plus wanted to make it an 10years life Service Plattform xD they reduced the KING of the GAMES to an Bargeld mediocre experience not worth to be remembered at all. I damit there some nice Story elements but this is not enough for a HALO game..

[@Brando2501]

@@OktayKus1993 I hear ya. Sucks to see a game I grew up with fizzle out like this.

[@RoachCatJr]

8:50 i thought he was going to explain what happened with Cortana & his trust/their relationship but stopped himself bc "what's the point? she's gone" . nvr really saw it as him mistaking her for Cortana

[@BlackRifleStudios]

Chief blames himself for Cortana and the current state of humanity/the galaxy, personally I think him having no hesitation about deleting The Weapon was due to fear of making another mistake, so this time he chose not to take any second chances. I feel that's more in line with his character, rather than him using people to his own advantage. Chief has always had humanity's best interest in mind, even when it comes to the individual person.

[@Bowfella]

Atriox is a very interesting and complex character. He's not some villain that has some misplaced delusion of grandeur. But his origins stem from being fed up with the injustice him and his people faced at the hands of the covenant, and saying "No more". His only real goal is to lead his people. His character arch is much more similar to Arbiter's. He doesn't seem nearly as dumb as the other brutes either. He has a much calmer, more calculated, and more menacing demeanor. Which only makes watching him dismantle master chief more hopeless knowing he wont make a mistake to give Chief the upper hand. Just a great character.

[@Calebe428]

Yeah I really like the banished as they don't seem evil for evil's sake. They really just seem like the flip side of the UNSC, and I you can tell chief knows this with how he treats Eschareum.

[@maximumrpg3707]

@@Calebe428 how do they possibly seem that way? 95% of the dialogue in the game is about how doomed humanity is, and how the banished will destroy them.

[@Calebe428]

@@maximumrpg3707 I mean humanity created cortana and the AI that literally obliderated their homeworld right before atrioxs eyes, and they don't have the luxury of knowing everything we know so I can't say i blame a group who is all about fighting for wanting to fight the people he probably believes responsible

[@bradleybourgeois4710]

Something about the game that you mentioned was how is John is more cold to the "Pilot" and The Weapon, due to Cortana's death. It actually makes sense when you think about it, as Cortana is all he had left of his UNSC friends from the original Halo era. Keyes died in the first game, Miranda was murdered by Truth around the start of third act of Halo, and Johnson was killed by Guilty Spark before being cremated by the exploding Ark. Cortana was the last remaining loved one of John's that we experienced the games with left and losing her has definately hurt him whether it be her intial sacrifice in Halo 4 or this game. Ultimately, one of John's biggest challenges he has to face is that he needs to start forming new bonds with his new companions. While the "Pilot" or Weapon can't replace the bonds he lost in the Human-Coveanant War, I feel that he is on the track to healing in some manner from the lost of his Bungie-Era buddies.

[@oberstmoos425]

I mean blue Team is still alive but we have no idea what happend to them.

[@bradleybourgeois4710]

@@oberstmoos425 I was referring to the original halo games rather than the external lore or characters from the original 343 Halo games. While I don't doubt the importance of Blue Team or Captain Lasky, when you think of John's friends you are more likely to think of the characters from those games rather than the extended lore or the 343 games. Halo Infinite has us experience our disatisfaction with the previous games with John, where we say goodbye to the original Bungie Buddies before moving on with the new friends he/we have bonded with on this journey.

[@SpoopySquid]

343 started off shaky but I'm glad they seem to have finally found their stride. Looking forward to seeing what they come up with next

[@ohlookitsbryan]

10 years and 500 million dollars+ later.

[@ThisHandleSystemCanGetNicked]

@@ohlookitsbryan And a broken mess of a game that restricts player expression and milks them for their cash.

[@OktayKus1993]

Sorry brother but I disagree. This game feels amazingly unfinished. So much important lore stuff happem just out of screen/ game like how did the UNSC fight Cortanas Rebellion? How did the Banished get involved ? What happen to Halses a d the Arbeiter? HOW DID ATRIOX defeated Cortana anyway?? Its like a whole GAME is missing between 5 and Infinite. By the way infinite is ectremly repetitive and lazy we dont have any bin or epic moments, no scarap Fights nothig of a great scale just the Illusion of it. I Love the feel of the Gane mechanics feels like Halo but the Game is nothing special after 6 FULL Years of production time. They öiterally scam Microsofts money for years and created an half ass game as product plus wanted to make it an 10years life Service Plattform xD they reduced the KING of the GAMES to an Bargeld mediocre experience not worth to be remembered at all. I damit there some nice Story elements but this is not enough for a HALO game..

[@musictorin]

This comment aged like milk

[@SpoopySquid]

@@musictorin yup

[@defaultdefault812]

Really great work - clear, concise summary!

[@HellcatF6]

Don't think Atriox time traveled. The legendary ending does take place in the past, but it's just played over where Atriox is currently.

[@ZigGG]

The "Cortana..." line on my first playthrough had me think he was just about to say something along the lines of "Cortana went rampant, how am I supposed to believe you wont do the same" or "Cortana cause all of this, and if I had stopped her, all this wouldn't have happened." You get my point. Which is what I think they wanted the player to think during the first playthrough. On my second one however, I realised it was just as you said... He got so caught up in arguing with her he forget she wasn't actually the same Cortana he once knew.

[@autumn614]

So the mind plague never payed off...was really counting on the floods master plan going somewhere. This whole story gave off rise of Skywalker energy

[@starhammer5247]

Rise of Skywalker had a terrible story and terrible lead-up. Despite the lead-up, Infinite has a great, if flawed, story and made it work.

[@TavishHill]

Quick correction: Atriox didn't go back in time. Beating the game on other difficulties shows that is not set back in time. Just the Legendary ending's dialogue is from the stated time/date. Great vid btw!

[@Yoshimitsu4prez]

Man I’m really interested to hear your reasoning here. I barely even noticed the story was happening, it felt disconnected from the random open world stuff, and then it just ended when I didn’t really get why that would be where it ends

[@Yoshimitsu4prez]

Okay yeah you pretty much convinced me, nice video

[@ManiacsWord]

A detail I loved in the story for infinite is the lines from the Weapon such as wanting to see the ring completed and saying how beautiful it is. These on the surface just seem like observations but to Chief and the player they could be seen as big red flags given what has happened to the AI in recent games. Making the players and Chief more wary and untrusting of her. I didn’t realize this was an intentional choice at first until Chief himself started the “Red Flag” delete sequence for the first time. I absolutely loved that moment and it showcases the great writing that went into making the players feel that way. Just a shame 343 dropped the ball with the rest of Infinites potential but we’ll always have the story.

[@Jorary209]

i also interpreted his pause after saying Cortana as a slip up as well. I literally went "oh Chief" after hearing that cause that was heart breaking

[@xXJavaMongyXx]

Atriox didn't travel in time. He was on a different part of Zeta Halo.

[@Master_Puddings]

You know something I think most people overlook, is in the 1st scene when master chief meets the pilot the pilot has a pistol that only has one round in it. Most people overlook that but I believe it was a sign of the story team to show the Depression that the pilot went through the last bullet was for himself

[@dotdenier]

Dude I wish I experienced the campaign the way you did, I didn't think to use his friends sword, I also didn't realize the context when Chief said cortana's name when arguing with the weapon XD still loved it though

[@IzziDoesIt]

I honestly love this story so much that I’m going back and forth between if I can slot it between Halo 2 or 3.

[@GameControlYT]

My issue is its feels like we missed 2 games in between 5 and infinity

[@JimPauls]

Yes. 343 clearly decided to not finish the trilogy they started and just tell us about it. Probably because of the criticism of 4 and 5.

[@asiblingproduction]

They wanted a reboot, they had to distince a bit, plus i dont think people would enjoy learning about the story inbetween through playing those segments.

[@GameControlYT]

@@asiblingproduction and how did this game help to establish it? John went to a halo and killed some recently introduced enemies and killed a big baddie. All this in like 6hrs. Everything in halo infinite happened feels like playing 1/3 of a game. Its not even a clean start for the franchise as everything that happened in last 6 months are crucial for understanding future

[@Calebe428]

@@GameControlYT they kinda wrote themselves into a corner with cortana as a villain, like just think about her and the guardians and it should be easy to realize that they would not have made for a good game, they were simply too big and strong, although a big more intro to the banished would've helped the game for sure, since anyone unfamiliar with HW 2 and other expanded lore would be kinda lost

[@Baggssy]

I hope we see the story continued in campaign expansions. I'd love to see the flood return. But more than anything id really love the unsc to feature more prominently with some more grand moments like halo 3.

[@Whiteythereaper]

The game is called Halo Infinite because that's 343's plan. They plan to support the game for 10+ years and the game being split installs between Free to play multiplayer and the premium Campaign shows that they will just add new DLC Campaign install modules which will probably add new weapons and features alongside them. The music during the ending Cutscene with the Orange colouring on the Cylixes seem to hint that the Endless are related to the Prometheans, and it would save 343 a lot of time and money to just copy & paste the Promethean weapons and enemies right from Halo 5, allowing them to cut corners like we know they love to

[@whydoineedthisB]

If I remove all your memories, you will no longer be Gingy, you would be someone else.

[@markusrussell1779]

your videos are super helpful and thought out! i find myself thinking the same things from a critical perspective! great stuff

[@Mr.WarwickBot]

Really enjoy your work brotha!

[@garylococo2401]

I agree for the most part only thing missing was the flood I hope they add them to dlcs in the future I love this game and I'm very excited for halos future

[@mspat8332]

I really enjoyed the story, it has really strong moments, but it is also far from perfect for me, everything about the endless and the harbinger was really bad in my opinion. The magic of h1 was that you fight the covenant and start to figure out that there something wrong about what is happening with the ring and you gradually discover the flood. In infinite, 343 seemed to have nailed this mystery feeling but then appears the harbinger who has no background and yells everywhere "something worse than the flood, the endless, are coming" breaking all the magic of discovering them by yourself like how you discover the flood in CE. Plus who the hell are the endless, we never get to see them, we are just told that they are a serious threat, which is a terrible and the worst way of introducing a character thus breaking the rule "show don't tell". The harbinger also add a fantasy aspect to halo infinite that I personally hate so much, 343 always did that since h4 and it is awful, halo never had that low cost fantasy aspect with bungie games and it gives a very kid aspect to the halo's stories. As for the relation between chief and the other characters and the banished background and characters, this is really well done. To me this story is better than h4 and 5 stories and under bungie games stories which were not "kid friendly" and fantasy like. Appart from the story, this is clearly one of the best halo of the franchise.

[@zucciniii1878]

You may think the harbinger is fantasy like, but with the theories relating to her and the legendary ending, plus the audio logs, she is very much si-fi. Currently it's most accepted that she is a version of the precursors, who are fantasy like also, but only because we know so little about them.

[@Samtastictogo]

Thank you! Somebody finally said it. It seems like 343 completely forgot about “show don’t tell” this time around. Every plot point that is important is delivered through in game dialogue while the player only gets to actually experience very low-stakes things, like fighting banished forces, or fighting more banished forces.

[@yayayoshi1028]

Although almost perfect, i expected alot of things in halo infinite that wernt there. I expected the flood, finding medicos bias, more bioms.

[@soulstalker4624]

My only criticism is the settings. While I love how the Zeta Halo looks and how amazing it feels, I think north-american forests is too saturated. I hope if 343i gives us a DLC, they give us a mix of forests, frozen tundras, swamps, jungles, deserts, beaches and even some crazy space levels. Another thing that I would love to see is that instead of a map, they give us a GTA style minimap on the corner, but it's tridimensional, meaning it only shows us around but not entirely, so the exploration feels more organic, highlighting points of interest for future exploration in our endeavors and give immerse us more, kinda like the minimap that appeara on the seaglide in Subnautica

[@masterofdisguise1112]

The Halo 2 theme at the end made me really happy

[@stonewars2078]

Ayo nice video dude I haven't watched it yet

[@universome511]

Legendary Video. I'm 99 percent sure the Endless are Precursors but maybe they'll have a twist for people who know the lore.

[@spacefox4684]

This definitely helped me to understand and appreciate the campaign

[@Shadowfire204]

Ngl, the Jega fight I already had an rpg and I just stayed by the ammo refill area and just waited for him to come to me. I had no issue knowing where he was due to my upgraded Threat Sensor, being able to shoot two at a time that spanned the whole arena. It was over in like a minute and a half and I didn't even realize there was a bottom floor till the fight was over.

[@starhammer5247]

In other words, you cheesed the fight rather than play it how it was meant to be played. Next time you fight him, do it without the rocket launcher.

[@eastongallegos1272]

I believe she also snaps her finger when she is first introduced to the chief in halo CE. At the very least, she holds her fingers together in a sassy pose iirc.

[@spencerjames-gay9706]

one thing I would have found cool is just seeing Jega in the distance after beating some of the mini bosses, to show that he was following you and then have him disappear from sight.

[@MelStaub]

The narrative conversation takes place in the past, not the scene

[@unblessedcoffee1457]

I liked the story mostly but kind of turned on it after a while. I mean Cortana told us they would try and replace her, and probably with another Cortana model, and that's exactly what they did, except in real life.

[@SpartanOfIacon1125]

The pilot wasn’t talking about frigates but condors, a type of pelican with slip space capability

[@theboysacdnr1659]

This game also suffered from a massive amount of the story being cut for time purposes just like halo 2

[@thesleeprealm2182]

i killed him with his friends sword too i played it on legendary that last fight was crazy hard i was a little disapointed that there was no achievment tho cuz it felt so right but it was still a good feeling to finish it like that

[@lingricen8077]

The leader of the Banished inherited a DYING cult. The most telling cutscene is when he is looking through the archives of the previous leaders, all with great feats and conquests. But the leader in Infinite? He knew he could never achieve anything close due to their dwindling numbers, he knew that it would be his name that would be remembered as the end of the Banished. The only thing he could hope for was to battle the one, the only, the legend, Master Chief. And he won. But when he found out that the Chief survived, he knew that was it for him, he was going to lose. He would spend the last of his days lamenting on his role as leader before finally meeting his end at the barrel of Chief.

[@Travonne423]

Hopefully in the next game we might probably call Master Chief Weapon Esaparza the Halo trio or Trinity as a team name

[@nathanpossberg4812]

Did we even play the same game? I went into infinite off of months of watching lore videos for halo, and was confused from start to finish as to what had happened between games. This game starts of with you in the middle of being attacked by the banished, after the previous had set up that no one but the created was a threat any more- with hundreds of AI turning against their creators, the banished should have become a footnote against the background of horror that is going on. Instead, you go get an AI helper, and Cortana is apparently dead (which saving her was the entire point of the last game) at your own hands, off screen. Nah, this game was good, but was trash for writing.

[@steadyjumper3547]

Any noticed how they basically made there cutscenes like the new god of war, no cuts all in single take in camera. I love this style.

[@UglyBoyForeverLonelyAgain]

Atrox didn't time travel in the post credits scene, the conversation that was played over the time was from the past, years before the games even happen

[@ThePunikaTV]

Interesting thoughts. When it comes to the Endless I assumed they were talking about an Entity, not a faction or group. To me the Endless sounds like a name. Just like the Primordial or Gravemind. About the time travelling thing: I didn't get that from the end credit scene. It could just take place in the present, right? Though whats really weird is the little bit of dialog after Chief and Cortana teleport and they mentioned a time skip. Why have that here? There has to be a reason for that.

[@jaywerner8415]

Given Halo Infinite is a "live service" last i recall, we might get more Story stuff, but we can only speculate at this point. If they don't then that is yet another squandered use of a "live service" model. On a small side note, i feel its worth mentioning that according to New Cortana when they jumped though that portal to escape the Auditorium they apparently also teleported 3 days which is a curious observation. Their is also a "Halo The Endless" that got copy righted or something. Also some have speculated Jaiga isn't dead, not sure if its just their timing on killing him or not, but he appears to just clocks leaving his sword behind. Their is also alot of reference lines that some of the marines say too, "wonder what the Arbiters forces are doing right now" for example, Fan service perhaps but makes ya think.

[@Axiios117]

Can someone help me understand this. How did the weapon make it to the silent auditorium & why that location? How does the weapon “imitating” Cortana lead to locking her down? I don’t understand the logic there. Wouldn’t Cortana realize this is a clone & respond accordingly?

[@TheWorldMemeDatabase]

The way I see it, Chief sees his handling of Cortana in H5 as a failure. He feels like if he’d taken his own feelings about her aside and just put a stop to her, he could’ve prevented the untold destruction she would bring in between H5 and Infinite. So when he has the opportunity to delete Weapon, he doesn’t hesitate, as he is resolved not to let his personal attachments affect what’s best for the mission. I do believe Chief as we find him in Infinite would delete the real Cortana if she still existed and posed a threat.

[@dalenlewin]

This is 343’s best game. Yeah, and the constipation I had today wasn’t as bad as the constipation I had a couple years ago.

[@starhammer5247]

Negative nancy. You must be fun at parties if you only ever see the negatives.

[@musictorin]

@@starhammer5247 People are allowed to criticize mediocrity, ya dingus

[@MakeJuice64]

Im glad I wasn't the only one who wanted to save Jega's energy sword to deal the final blow to Esharum

[@jonathanpadilla5166]

Jul ma dama would have been cool to keep around. Maybe as a second enemy faction in this game. His elites being bulkier and heavier could have been explained as a separate elite clan on sanhilios (I know I spelled the name wrong) where the elites are bigger and stronger more savage like beasts and wild elites. But comes at a cost as the swords of sanhilios elites are leaner and more cut up and more intelligent and have a different code of honor in combat. They even each other out but the swords elites are still superior since there more combat skilled , faster , more calm and collective and also lead by the arbiter. This would have explained/mini retconed the bulky elites from halo 4&5 and gave us another faction to fight. I don’t know but I really liked fighting the elites in each halo game especially the halo reach elites which were the best in my opinion. and while I love the brutes I feel like the elites are kinda on the side in the banished there not really on the same level as the brutes even though they are around it somehow feels like there not at times. Hopefully we get to see arbiter in the next game

[@craigthebrute1446]

Bad idea

[@starhammer5247]

@@craigthebrute1446 This simple comment has me laughing for some odd reason. It's probably because you're Craig.

[@amrit5516]

Atriox couldn’t have time traveled lol. The year was meant for the voiceover for the legendary ending

[@benzi1521]

Halo has always been about humanity. But this game, was about HUMANITY. You know?

[@Gingy]

100% and I still personally think humanizing the chief is not a bad idea. It allows us to see another side of him and its definitely something I've wanted for some time now.

[@loganpullo7044]

The biggest complaint I have heard for the campaign is not showing what happened with infinity and the battle. Some even call not showing what happened with infinity as bad writing I highly disagree. First it created a starting point for infinite but not only that it cleverly pushed out halo 5 story without making those games non canon or pointless it also made gamers actually invested and intrigued in that conflict which halo 5 never did for me. It creates a mystery that I was actually interested on finding out much like halo 3 odst where you piece what happened together. Though i will admit they used audio logs to tell what happened instead of the story doing that I dont like it when games use audio logs like that some could players miss them and miss a pretty important part of the story it's also annoying to look for them just to understand what happened. They probably also should have had the opening mission on the infinity as it was attacked could have been a cool mission and a call back to halo CE but not only that actually shown a bit of the battle and show how strong the banished were then after cheif fights through the infinity have the cutscene with atroix play. We would experience the beginning of the battle but not the result of the battle still retaining the mystery and the starting point.

[@JimPauls]

I think they just skipped Halo 6. They just made this game set after the end of the 343 trilogy so they could move on from the criticism they were facing. Makes me think they started where they did so they could go back and conclude their own trilogy if it ever made sense to do so. I love the story in infinite. Great reboot really.

[@masonfoster151]

explain to me if im missing something, but halo 6s opening was extremely confusing. i have played every main halo game(including all of 6), both halo wars, and odst. the endings of 5 and halo wars 2 didnt match up anywhere close to the beginning of 6. 1) how did MC get on the infinity? 2) how did the infinity get to the ring and why? 3) how did atriox get to the ring from the ark? 4) why did cortana go to the ring when she was on earth? 5) when did they make a copy of cortana and how did she get to the ring? 6) atriox was fighting the MC at the beginning, how did he die? 7) when did cortana die? all of this is never really explained or shown, it just happens. or more so it just happened, but we are being told it all. its worse than exposition. with exposition you get a few sentences to explain how everything went down. however in this it feels like we only get the last sentence of said exposition. it was really off putting. other than that the story was pretty good. however the lack of info in the beginning is awful. much of the questions i asked should have been shown or at least explained on screen.

[@Gingy]

From what I can answer. The master chief had been stationed on the Infinity for a while. He has been since 4. He helped the infinity with their escape from the didact in 4 then just stayed stationed on it doing random missions which is how he ends up at Argent Moon in Halo 5s second mission. Atriox is also not dead. He’s presumed dead by Escharum and the Banished but we know he’s alive thanks to the post credit cutscene. He possibly just left without anyone on the banished knowing. We don’t Atrioxs motives right now so I cant say for certain wether he faked his own death or defected or something Besides that everything else you said we don’t know. Hopefully it gets cleared up in a DLC at some point.

[@masonfoster151]

@@Gingy last i knew from halo 5 was MC was on sanhelios with arby and halsey. but the infinity was doing random jump while running from cortana on earth. lasky specifically says to a avoid major settlements for fear of being tracked. also i did not realize that was atriox at the end, that ones on me. however all of the rest makes the opening of the game pretty bad in my opinion. weve never had a halo that was super hard to follow what was going on, until now. every other halo has been easy to connect the dots, 1-2 they get back to earth(yes i know johnson was a retcon), 2-3 he jumps from the ship, 3-4 hes in stasis still. like i said the rest of the story was great, but its very distracting and confusing because of all that wasnt answered. it almost feels like a their should have been another smaller game in between, or even two. i dont understand how this game can be said to have a perfect story at all. ive asked these questions to others and have gotten the same answers "you have to play halo 4, 5 and wars 2." and i tell them yes i just told you i have played them all, that still doesnt answer all of these important questions. im glad you gave a better answer than the rest, even if it was mostly "we dont know," thank you.

[@minesimusic1447]

I've been playing it on legendary and god dam it's much much easier than any of the others. Use the Archane Sentinal Beam and refill it constantly.

[@koeyguilbeau443]

She snaps her fingers in halo 2 cutscene at the end of delta halo, where they learn regret is planning to activate halo

[@jodysin7]

The story WAS perfect before 4 and 5. They fixed what they broke, yes.

[@gabrielov8027]

Nah, the story is probably the only thing that really didn't sit well with me. Not only was the weapon annoying throughout the whole game, but when she went to delete herself, I was almost hoping that the chief hadn't stopped her. The pilot was okay, but I hated how it felt like there isn't any amount of UNSC leadership on the entire ring. Also having so much fo the story happen offscreen made it tough to understand while playing.

[@starhammer5247]

So one of the vocal minority then. No one I know hates the Weapon. A lot of them love her. You also have to consider that she's not even a year old. She's new to this thing and was meant to die young, just like the Spartan-III's, who all mostly died aged twelve. You're acting like she's Cortana, but she's not. She's a child, but you're treating her like she knows everything, but she knows nothing.

[@webbraham2768]

Did not feel the same about the boss fights. I had no trouble beating the red energy sword elite. The final brute fight took me something like 20 tries.

[@SonicHedgehog1991]

Kinda funny how much similar this trilogy is to the sequel trilogy. Both started out with a relatively good story with Halo 4 and Force Awaken but dropped the ball when it comes to the sequel like Halo 5 and Last Jedi and the final part of the trilogy completely ignores the failed sequel like how Halo 6 ignored Halo 5 and Last Skywalker ignored Last Jedi.

[@normietwiceremoved]

This game humanised Chief in the perfect amount. I am a firm believer that CHIEF CAN BE HUMANISED. But there is a wrong way to do it. There are a lot of Bungie purists who think that it fundamentally, shouldn't be done. Halo 4 I think humanised him in the wrong way, made him too talky, too outwardly emotional. It wasn't compelling to me. One major aspect of Chiefs personality to me was how much he cared about people through his actions, not his words or outward emotions. He'd always take care of his fellow marines, and do anything to make sure everyone got out safely. 9:53, you hit the nail bang on the head. This is EXACTLY why Chief is so compelling in Halo Infinite.

[@MothMan-jl3qh]

I also like how it seems like Escharum is dying. Having a heart problem or something. Thus why he wants to go out guns blazing, cementing his legend.

[@rubbingalkohol]

I remember running out of energy for Jega’s energy sword so I dedicated myself to bludgeon the crap out of Escharaum with the hilt of the sword

[@starhammer5247]

That is far more brutal but also far more hilarious.

[@irishempire9811]

My main problem with the story is that there wasn't a Keith David(Arbiter) cameo.

[@aliG2500]

I thought the story was thoroughly uninteresting, but hey to each their own. At least it was a better story than the one in Raid: Shadow Legends.

[@austinnoah2896]

this next halo game is gonna be nuts if the banished are only the secondary faction to fight if atriox comes back in time with the endless

[@voyagerofdoom]

Cortana snaps her fingers at the Two Betrayals cutscene

[@rsoxboy]

I really hope they don't introduce time travel into the games. It's like writers admitting they have lost the capacity to create captivating and original continuations of a storyline. All other franchises that use time travel in storytelling end up not making sense or have gigantic plot holes. At least to me, time travel always ends up feeling artificial in the end.

[@606films9]

I love when game finish, a new company picks up the IP, and then humanizes the main character

[@that_clapped_out_singlecab9372]

The fact that he said the 343 wrote themselves into a corner was the most accurate thing I e heard about halo in a fat minute still laughing over that one😂

[@DEFUification]

a fellow spartan of poetry, i also finished escharum with his friends sword.

[@MothMan-jl3qh]

I also like that the story felt like a murder mystery. Figuring things out as you go on.

[@Calebe428]

Yeah i liked it but I can see why others don't, and I'm sure 343 wishes they could've done more in the in between time of halo 5 and infinite but I think they kinda wrote themselves into a corner with cortana as a villain and I don't think she would've made for a good game.

[@misterbIuey]

I loved the story definitely up there with 3 & 2 however I didn’t cry at the end and I wanted to lmao I kinda feel like maybe idk if they waited till we finally met Cortana at the end and she or our new friend told us what happened it would’ve been better for me? Or maybe if they had that classic piano music we all know and love that “never forgotten” song idk but I still loved it lmao

[@nicos1097]

Yeah the end of infinite was great, but it definitely could’ve been better with a little bit better implementation of ‘Cortana’s theme’ (the pianos from halo 3) or something like ‘never forget.’

[@misterbIuey]

@@nicos1097 great minds think alike lmaoo

[@kjj26k]

Oh wow...Halo Infinite is literally the Chief learning the Power of Friendship!

[@Python085]

Humanizing Master Chef is cool andall,but I want to see him KICK SOME ASS shaun soon!

[@Broski8137]

I disagree with your interpretation of Chief's attitude toward Echo-216. Master Chief cares A LOT about Humanity. All Humans. He would never use one as a means to an end or view someone as a way for him to do what he wants/needs. I interpreted his seemingly dismissive nature in the beginning as determination to get back to the mission and salvage what he could and do his duty. In the books Chief is conflicted emotionally when his mission has to take priority over the safety of other humans caught in dangerous situations. However he doesn't let the emotional conflict impair his mission effectiveness. He even finds ways to help those humans when he can find a way which doing so helps his mission. For example: Promising a pirating vessel to the children of castoffs in return for their assistance on Netherop in Halo: Oblivion. or Requesting support from Infinity to reinforce the settlers on Reach to hold a captured Banished outpost. You could argue it was necessary but he didn't see them as tools or something to use for is mission and discard. "Our duty as soldiers is to protect Humanity, whatever the cost." MC to Lasky onboard the Infinity, Halo 4 Master Chief's effectiveness stems mostly from his desire and determination to protect and help Humanity in any way. His augmentations and insane luck just give him an edge in purposing that resolve. Great video by the way. I loved the Infinite story.

[@davidwhatsthatabout7404]

The pacing, map traversal, upgrades, gameplay transitions to cutscenes in infinite feels like a first person shooter version of the God of War reboot.

[@canadaman9373]

The jega fight scared the fuck out of me

[@johngolles342]

He was Condors Fernando was tryna salvage a slipspace drive from, not frigates