Halo MCC - Halo 2 LASO (Part 7: Regret) - Back for More - Guide

[@S4mGoesHam]

Pro tip: The jump to the gondola at 3:03 is much easier if you do it from the ledge on the balcony to the left

[@UK1V]

Champion! This jump was making me look like a fool!

[@julianmontoya5854]

Thank you good sir. The other jump was to much for me haha

[@TurboGuides]

Thank you! this one was much much easier.

[@GreenSpleenSubmarine]

THANK YOU!!

[@calebpipet]

Or just grenade jump over

[@poachedegg5964]

You work so hard to help people do this it’s incredible you’d replay the mission so many times for this

[@mauz791]

I know right? He deserves way more recognition

[@treywoody4706]

Elite Honor Guards: 0 Literal decorations: 1 Maybe the Brutes were right

[@RedCharge]

Important tip for the regret fight! My friend and I found that after setting up the regret fight, you can get a checkpoint if you clear the hallway and move back to the gondola and sit there for a bit. Definitely a massive time saver.

[@XFerginatorX]

What's the hallway? The hallway with the prophet or the hallway where that surviving elite is? What triggers the checkpoint? Go all the way back to gondola or just outside?

[@HaloCompletionist]

For those wondering, this was re-uploaded with a new ending. Within 24 hrs of posting the original, I discovered a new MUCH easier/better way to go about getting into the temple early. You no longer need to worry about accidentally triggering the cutscene and it's now co-op friendly. The video is the same at first, but changes over to the new run at 19:14. If you're just curious about the new jump itself, head to 27:20. ENJOY!

[@raymondjiang3978]

I will thanks

[@221Prohunter]

Thanks for doing such a good job with this, you totally didn’t need to but you really went out of your way to make this more bearable for us. Really appreciate it!

[@HaloCompletionist]

Thank you! I'll never play Regret LASO again...at least not this week...maybe...

[@P5YCHO1192]

@@HaloCompletionist keep it up man. Looking forward to watching you when Halo 6 finally comes out. :D

[@Finger112]

@@HaloCompletionist Silver I just discovered a new way in this level thats even EASIER.... JK.

[@jestemjen]

some tips i have for this level: the first jump to the gondola, where you have to do a really delayed crouch jump, is much much easier to do from the balcony just to the left of it where one of the jackle snipers can come out of. if you jump on the little wall and crouch jump towards it, it is not as big of a jump. i personally have never failed it but have never been able to do the one shown in the video. before doing the grenade/rocket jump to the left of the temple after the cutscene before the bossfight, it is much more worth it to kill the second elite. break the two turrets in front of the gondola to get your shield up and then head towards the entrance of the temple. the second elite will come running out and you can bait him into getting stuck into his plasma rifle recharge animation and can go assassinate him when it is recharging. it does not trigger the bossfight (but do NOT go through the arches/door ways that lead into the temple normally. go back and do the rest as it shows in the video.) and then use the two smaller turrets in front of the temple to get your shield back again. i usually get a checkpoint after killing him which is good so you don't have to completely restart from the cutscene, and then once you have set up the boss room and walk out of the room and back in, it will give you another checkpoint. big timesaver. when setting up the room for the boss fight, immediately hit the big purple and blue boxes to the lower level and then never go near that big door again until you need to start the fight. do the purple and blue boxes LAST. put all of the pedestals into place first by moving them up the ramps that the purple boxes would be blocking, and THEN block the ramps off with the big crates. being anywhere near the door can spawn the enemies. you can need one of the purple crates and go to get one in front of the big entrance door and it very much can spawn the enemies before you are set up. again, when setting up the regret boss fight room, crouching when hitting the objects will make them move further a lot of the time on flat floors. hitting the bottom of the object makes it move less and more gentle, and hitting the top, corners or sides will make it move more aggressivly and faster.

[@bh19298]

I have always followed Silvers guides to the letter, over various accounts over many years. Even this guide, with a slight change at the end. After many, many deaths on the Regret fight, the setting up was burning me out. 10 minutes is nothing, but when you're doing it 30 times that's 5 hours! After I set everything up, instead of tiptoeing through the door then back in to spawn the enemies, I brought a sniper instead of a BR. Snipe the remaining elite (or other enemies on the entrance hallway) and run back out towards the gondola. You'll get a checkpoint, and then pick up checkpoints during the fight. You can pick up your BR and an energy pistol outside then lure the honor guards out instead of dealing with them inside. After 7 hours of setting up and dying, I did the fight in about 15 minutes after picking up a checkpoint after setup. Thank you Silver for these miraculous guides, the road to 700/700 is made easier with your help. Good luck!

[@bronyhub]

_Master Chief riding elevator_ : "I'm bored". Marine: "Oh god... oh fuc..."

[@Co2Outbr3ak]

Just to update, my buddy and I coop'd this last night. We didn't rocket jump in the temple to prepare for the Regret fight and had to do it legit. We didn't realize of the Grenade+Board glitch to damage Regret faster, and it took I believe roughly 18 boardings to kill him with just melees. We'd get 3-4, go outside for checkpoint, repeat. It. Was. Obnoxious.

[@Gorczy]

Splattered myself with crates 4 times at the end... but made it through at last. Thanks as always for these guides Silver!

[@aAaRePLaY]

Massive thanks for the guide, just did it and worked perfectly. For those that are struggling with the setup for the final fight here is something I found: You can actually kill the second elite before doing the rocketjump. All you have to do is go a little bit closer to the temple entrance where he sniped the first elite. The second one will come running out and you can easily backsmack him still without spawning the final room. Them just do the rocketjump and proceed with the setup. This will then allow you to go back outside once you have completed the setup and you will get a checkpoint and can then continue from there.

[@wesleyp989]

Important tip for 3:04. There’s a slight downwards bump before you fall off, I found that that’s a good time to jump.

[@sebastianmeans5954]

Damn lifesaver, was curious why I was losing my mind!

[@starlessking029]

4 years later ant this is very helpful... Im using all ur laso guides(and some speedrun tricks that i know) to get 100%, thank u so much for this guides, it took me one whole day and 1hour and 10min in game to pass this level, love u so much!!!!

[@bresey_4280]

After setting up final boss room, go back through the entrance to the gondola. Be careful of elite and possible jackal; I used rocket launcher on jackal and managed to run by elite. Sit on gondola for a minute, grab a plasma pistol and BR and go back inside. There will be 2 plasma elites spawn at boss room entrance where you just ran out of. Try to lure them to the doors and melee, just be patient. Just a bit further on the big ramp into the boss room you can sit on the little ledge on side of ramp and the sword elites won't rush you so you can noob combo. Seems risky but I was not about to risk having to do the rocket jump and set up the barricades all over again if I messed up in boss fight, which I did. It ended up giving me a checkpoint mid boss fight and another checkpoint after I had already hit regret a few times. If you run out of BR ammo or need shield just start punching the grunts. I also remapped my buttons from L2 grenade to RB grenade, it was a lot easier to hit the grenade/board combo with X and RB on one hand than coordinating both hands.

[@yincimaster8530]

In my case, I tried and was instantly blasted by the 2 plasma elites. I instead just went back in. Because of your safe space, you'll be fine. At one point, Regret will say "Incompetence, I will kill him myself" upon which you'll also get a checkpoint. I don't know if you need to kill x amount of grunts to achieve this or just wait but at least it was a massive time saver for me with less stress. I was pretty low on shield because the 2 plasma elites happened to follow me inside for the first bit of the fight.

[@Musicwithsprites]

You are the mvp of today my friend. This tip saved me a great many grey hairs haha

[@EchinoStarefish]

When you stick a grenade to Regret, it helped me (on keyboard and mouse) to hit the grenade key a split second after beginning to hold the action key to board him. Since my keys are Q and E respectively, I just sort of rolled my fingers from right to left. That helped me get much more consistent sticks through the shield. Thanks a ton for the guide, Silver; it was super hard but felt great to finally get him.

[@hbivnm]

was having the same problem with nades under the shield, thanks for the "right to left" tip :)

[@xMERKaDERKx]

Silver, thank you so much man, the guide worked beautifully. My friend and I are slowly completing LASO in every game thanks to you. Its funny because when we first decided to do this after years of talking about it, you had just uploaded your first Laso video like a week before, and they just kept coming. You're a god in the halo community for actively making these important videos. Bless up! :)

[@captainsquats5293]

Also something to note in the regret boss room. There are indents in the wall to the right and left of the door your suppose to enter. Going into either of them will also trigger the fight.

[@simovicmarko]

If you cannot kill him with grandes as me, be assured that you can do it by just beating him. Just make sure the grunts are on top, and then start boarding him. I boarded him around 20 to 30 times and killed him. Thanks Silver for these amazing guides!

[@alexadame436]

These rocket grenade jumps are the bane of my existence

[@halolasomaster3900]

3:21 This trick took me forever when I used your speed run guide glad you explained it more here I got it my first try!

[@RectorRocks]

Thanks for the updated strat! Looks way easier now, and co-op friendly! Now to continue on the LASO journey :)

[@eerokoponen1843]

Saving lives right there with these guides + Its like listening to a genius E-sports commentary

[@dmac2184]

How excited I was to pull off the first gondola trick only to be reverted to my last checkpoint ALL THE WAY AT THE BEGINNING!

[@stevedapanda]

For anyone that wants to make the jump at around 3:00 minutes a little easier, just go out on the balcony to the left and jump from the railing

[@HaloCompletionist]

Good call. I'm not remaking this guide for a 4th time in the past week though! That improvement will have to wait for the 3.0 LASO guides 5 years from now, lol.

[@stevedapanda]

@@HaloCompletionist Haha no worries! It was just a little easier for me. Thanks so much for the guides!

[@memeteam8274]

@@HaloCompletionist i just naturally could not do that jump so i have always used the ledge lmao

[@danielmaspoch4314]

Thank you u just saved me the time from constantly saving and quitting because of the other jump.

[@BlackTemplarpudsey]

Any advice on the first jump I can never make it

[@Halo56Guy]

Good guide, every transition you have to set up shop and be explain what you should do but it still plays so smooth and feels gracious in these levels for progression

[@noobtube346]

Imagine been training for years for battle chief and one decoration prevents you Poor elites

[@unless4317]

For whatever reason during the regret fight I kept getting checkpoints after hitting him definitely not complaining

[@gistcropper]

Not sure what happened with my Regret fight, it seems like his shield glitched out for me, even when I board him I can still take damage from enemy fire, and my own grenades (managed to stick myself in the head while I was punching him at least 5 times). Luckily managed to get checkpoints throughout the boss fight and eventually smacked him down, boarding him WITHOUT using grenades. I think I boarded and meleed him at least 12 times before he finally dropped. I also had his throne spaz out from I assume the sputnik skull, while punching him his throne would keep tipping over until he was completely upside down and would just lie down on the floor, then a SECOND Regret would spawn nearby and the first would despawn 30 seconds later. Amazing guide, so happy to be done with this laso mission!

[@Neon_Texan]

I follow this man religiously

[@raymondjiang3978]

Jingles Hyena I followed this man a little bit late

[@yougotaknife]

same

[@EpicDiehard]

Awesome vid as always. I just finished the level, and wanted to share that during the setup for the fight with Regret, if I got too close to the back door an Honor Guard Elite and grunt would randomly spawn in and kill me. It added a lot of time resetting up the room, so be careful of staying back there for too long.

[@imabrickfromspain]

Huge thank you - finally got it on my third boss fight run! Small tip for when you're grabbing a plasma pistol after the pelican drop of supplies at 19:55. If you grab a plasma pistol and go around the area trying to pick up other plasma pistols while you have one equipped, it will swap your weapon if the one on the ground has more ammo. Great guide!

[@alaska1324]

Commenting for the algorithm, amazing work as always, and your community coming in with pro tips to add.

[@Coreyturner1000]

Silver your a god I got this mission done today with the getting into the room early I’d never got this done without your help #silverthehalogod

[@KnuckleHead514]

Good shit, was stuck on the rocket jump for 2 days (only got in once and splattered myself), ended up beating Regret in 2 tries - thanks a lot Silver!!

[@OnyxLeviathan]

I spent hours on this until I looked up help for the final fight. Appreciate it big time.

[@Godzilla1282]

I think this new strat you're doing is the one I was thinking of when commenting on your last vid. OMG this is so much easier. Thank you!

[@dmadam3023]

I forgot to bring the crate at the 21:00 gondola run, got a checkpoint right before getting found by a jetpack elite. Solved it by checking the time when the elite killed me and turning 1 second earlier to melee him.

[@HaloCompletionist]

Yolo strats!

[@vicvega5452]

what did you do after that? i ran into the same problem but when I try to go back into the corner after killing the elite, the other enemies just shoot me to death

[@dmadam3023]

@@vicvega5452By other enemies I assume other elites.. well, you could: A) wait it out using the central wall as cover, when the gondola reaches the end flying elites will ignore you and fly towards the door. B) if your current weapon setup allows it and it's only 1 more elite you could try to kill him. The next area has 4 turrets and you can snipe most of the enemies from afar so even in you loose your shield you should be fine.

[@Glitch-mind]

Thanks to you i was able to get through that room with the hunters after the gondola which saved me so much suffering.

[@stawg007]

Crazy that something so simple was never found before

[@aidan2589]

Pro tip at 27:22: Sometimes the extra elite will shoot at you through the door as you walk towards the spot for the grenade jump on the left. To prevent this, you can move one of the crates on the ramp to the bottom of the wall on the left. If you move it to the left corner of the wall next to the barrier on the edge of the structure, you can jump on the crate and do a crouch jump. Therefore you can avoid having to pass by the elite and losing shield. I took only like 2 or 3 hits from him, but it was still enough to cause me to die when I went to do the jump.

[@epmasters]

Just finished this level and just want to start off by saying, thank you. This has helped tremendously and I wished I would have followed the guide up until the end where the rocket/grenade jump occurred. I went too far and spawned the enemies in and had to do things the old fashioned way. However, should anyone find yourself in that position. Take with you a BR and Energy Pistol. In between rounds with Regret you'll want to retreat into the previous section where the ramp leads up into the final room and take out the elites individually. The grunts seem to stay in the final area and do not follow and both the elites with the sword and plasma pistol take only one overshield charge to take out. This helped quite a bit. Oh yeah, and definitely do the grenade portion as well when you board him. Somehow I was able to board him I think 10 times without using grenades and that was seriously bugging me. Plenty of grenades to go around and having the grunts running around made it easy to acquire shield. Again, I wish I would have watched this more carefully and did the rocket/grenade jump earlier. Alas it is done....off to Sacred Icon!.

[@Craftyskills17]

pro tip that after setting up the regret fight, you can get a checkpoint if you clear the hallway and move back to the gondola and sit there for a bit. you can get rid of the elite before you do the rocket grenade jump by waiting just around the corner on the right side he will charge you can you get back smack him this will allow you to run threw with minimal damage to get the check point but be warned 2 plasma elites will spawn in the hallway if you do this method and you will have to take them out to get back in safely

[@Nick__]

IMPORTANT: You DO NOT have to cross those big doors to trigger the load zone for enemies to spawn in. In my run, I was still in the room and was standing on the left side of it trying to fix the barricade on the ramp and it loaded everyone in. Stay away from the left side (facing the doors).

[@morgan79737]

11:05, a warning to other players. When the sword elite spawns in, sometimes the jackal sniper from the previous room will be in the doorway you came from, so try to stay put and take out the sword elite then peek around to see if the sniper is waiting for you to cross his sights.

[@Allmageddon343]

*following the guide* "This isn't too bad" *Get to final area, 12 minutes left in video* "Oh"

[@帅哥-p9w]

It's so nice of you to make the LASO difficulty increasingly easier. Although I have done all the LASO achievements, I still like to play them.

[@AlienSphinkter]

When setting up the blockades on the top middle bridge, make sure you put some space between them and the ramp - I've seen the elites just use the slope geometry underneath the plinth and walk right over the top of them. Yes I died.

[@XFerginatorX]

Which slope on top mid? The weapon crate locations or the ancient forerunner decor?

[@calkestis658]

I did LASO on this mission before this update and let me tell you guys this mission was a contender for hardest LASO mission of all time, 6 hours for that final boss fight. the trick he uses with the rockets, it used to only be done by sword flying, it was known you could block all the doors in the boss fight if you could snipe a camo sword elite to reveal itself and then sword fly to its position before activating the cutscene, this would bypass the cutscene and allow you to blockade the boss fight room, then come back out and activate the cutscene in order to progress the mission, now you just have to use rockets lol.

[@RDraggio]

You can kill Regret with punching him. It takes about 70+ hits and only took a few hours of raw attempts to do with not barricades

[@HaloCompletionist]

Good god!

[@Didact357]

Yeah, can confirm. Couldn't get the grenades to slip under his shield for the life of me, so I just punched and punched and punched. Luckily I had barricades

[@svenvalenberghs2405]

28:15 The point where the fight start seems wrong. If I go anywhere near those top 2 boxes the fight start without even opening the door. Had this happen twice. resorted to barricading everything I can before daring to try and get those top 2 crates for blocking the ramps. Again the fight started when I was moving one of those 2 boxes. Sword elite rushing up the ramp almost got me

[@svenvalenberghs2405]

I am going to move those boxes with plasmas so I can avoid starting the fight early. don't go anywhere near that ramp

[@Apollo6291]

Not as bad as I thought it would be. Had a few deaths getting through the part at 12:45 to 19:00 but that was the most difficulty I had. Also I went into it with almost no shield and those chair things at 14:40 just blew me up. Only advice I can say is after you spawn in Regret make a beeline for the barricade, then figure out where the enemies spawned. I had to set up the barricades twice because I was bum-rushed by a sword elite. As some people are saying, it seems you don't always have to go through the door for Regret to spawn. It happened when I got behind the blue box by the door to move it.

[@0oOskar]

God damn I spent 2 days on completing Regret because I messed up the rocket jump on the end :c, oh well at least it's done now, thanks for updated strats I'm waiting for part 8 so I can continue :D

[@HaloCompletionist]

That's dropping in 15 hours! (9am EST)

[@Islingr]

I used your previous guide and I found the rocket + granade jump presented there to be not that difficult. Thanks to with your instructions and because I had a good checkpoint. It is nice to know the alternative though.

[@luisfernandomendez2909]

Finally beat Regret 😩 thanks for your amazing guide.

[@oscarls8539]

OMG, I actually made it!!!! I can't believe it Thank you so much for your guides!!!

[@wayz_4338]

LETS FUCKING GO!! Thank you Silver, more than ever. Thanks too to the people in the comments talking about the checkpoint you can get before the final battle by going back to the gondola. The setup for the boss fight is way too obnoxious to do it twice.

[@LickedHorn]

The jump around the 3:00 mark is much easier if you just jump on the railing on the balcony. It gives you a bit of height to work with.

[@GienettoAze]

If anyone has trouble making that jump to the travelling platform at the beginning u can just go on top of the balcony right on your left it makes it fairly easy.

[@gums79]

Finally after 8 months I've done this level.. man the amount of times I've restarted instead of saving and quit was unbelievable.. thank you so much for this work through

[@pr3historic647]

Aight so if you end up a bit short on that first grenade jump and land on the lower thing that sticks out you can still make it up! Get as close to the back left corner and run/jump up around the sticking out object above you. Worth trying before just reseting. I had 0 issues with gondola jump but that grenade jump game me issues sometimes.

[@pr3historic647]

Also, regarding the hunter room you skip: go to the elevator before going back for the plasma pistols. The can still be hanging out in that room if you don't. Scared the hell outa me but I made it through

[@mr.dr.kaiser4912]

After just _barely_ squeaking by on getting the par time in Legendary for the Monopolized achievement, I was not looking forward to this level. This guide made it a lot more tolerable than I was expecting. For anyone wondering, if you kill all the enemies before you do the grenade+rocket jump at the end there, there's a chance you'll get a checkpoint when you go through the main door to start the fight after you've set up all your barriers. Made it a lot easier for me. Also, if you don't want to risk running around to kill grunts and get more plasma grenades, you can use frags for when you board regret and they work too, though probably not quite as well.

[@GamblingDolphin]

Just completed the solo playlist a couple days ago. Hurts to be seeing this brilliant video now (a few days late). Regret was BY FAR the hardest level for me. And I thought Cairo was bad! (I didn't use the Johnson trick). Gravemind wouldn't be bad if it weren't for the bottom of the prison lift being broken. Had to restart the level 4 times before it let me live to the bottom. Regret probably took as much in game time as all the other 14 levels combined. Wish I had known about the gondola head glitch and this final room early entry. Woulda saved me about 6 hours of save and quit and actually been easier than Cairo Station. Had to make a barricade trick of my own. Put barricades on the two smaller ramps at the bottom of the main door ramp. Keep killing them at the main door until it's just sword elites. Bait them to come halfway down and then nade them so with Sputnik they land at the bottom and are stuck not even in the main temple. Then enter and just keep killing grunts while smacking Regret about 75 times.

[@HaloCompletionist]

I'd imagine you'll be hurting when you see the updated Gravemind guide, too, lol. The Prison and Mausoleum are now skipped entirely.

[@GamblingDolphin]

@@HaloCompletionist Nah, Gravemind is my favorite level, especially the prison section. the only problem I have is the getting down part. Although I am rather curious to see. I'm guessing you can sputnik boost yourself somehow to skip them.

[@GamblingDolphin]

Also, I'll have to record my Gravemind level starts. Perhaps you'll have this improved too in your upcoming video, but I can get through it with as much consistency as can be expected in about 4-5 minutes. I think my PR was barely over 3 minutes.

[@leomajor7435]

Halo Completionist When will you post part 10 ?

[@NateIsCorrupt]

Great guide 👍. This helped me complete Regret 🤩

[@bloc4395]

Thank you, this one had a few tough sections!

[@AM-gc2fq]

Is the previous guide still around somewhere? Getting that rocket+grenade jump is now a matter of pride.

[@HaloCompletionist]

It's Unlisted now but here's the direct link kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXaqnn59iLeqoJI

[@AM-gc2fq]

@@HaloCompletionist thanks. Crazy jumps are one of the joys of halo. Great channel by the way.

[@HaloCompletionist]

Thank you!

[@_MaZTeR_]

*DO NOT* even get close to the doors in the boss fight section before you're done. I went to retrieve one of the giant boxes near the door because there were none left on the ground floor and Regret and his minions spawned.

[@sentientboxofcookies1843]

Of course this gets posted when I’m at work lol can’t wait to try your method mine took me a little over... never mind I don’t wanna embarrass myself

[@raymondjiang3978]

Tin Lang I’m out of work completely due to the coved 19

[@iPwnR]

I completed the frag/rocket jump at 27:40 with my coop partner. I forget if he was missing frags or the launcher but he jumped with me and eventually we both stuck the landing.

[@sgtcoffman]

This is the comment I was looking for. Wanted to know if it could be done if only one person had the equipment at that point. Thanks for sharing.

[@CameronJGilliam]

I literally set everything up. It took me about 30ish minutes because this was my first time doing so. I loaded the enemies in. Killed a grunt. And then immediately died from a sword elite.

[@strongmanlin]

If only I’d known this when I did my LASO play through ;-;. Still love seeing the vids with all the cool new strats tho! And it’s super cool that the exact cause for the god despawn is known now.

[@tomn55]

Just completed! Amazing guide as always, it really wasn't as hard as people were making out. The only bit I got stuck on was the drones at around 16:30

[@kirkh4205]

Until I played the end of this mission again, i had no idea that Grunts can VAULT themselves over those columns that we are using as barricade. Like a little gymnast, I even put two columns in most places. You CANNOT stop them, lol. But they wont do it every time and honestly, you're gonna want them for shield anyway. I found the best thing to do was just hang out in the 2 doors on either side of Regret's Altar. Run from one door onto the altar and m sorta run in diagnal lines and run circles around him....do that BEFORE attacking him. He might be a clone and if so just run to the other side door and hide. Your big purple boxes should be near those doors and it keeps grunts from attacking you when you hide. Don't KILL the honor sword guards if they are trapped in the middle level. They are useless if they get stuck there. If you dont kill them, you wont deal with dual plasma rifle honor guards. The problem is, they can still shoot at you when they are stuck in those spawn doors. If you can avoid killing ANY swords honor guards, thats better. Keep a sword in hand at all times. When you are near a grunt, sword slash 1x then change weapons and Melee him. Most of the time that will kill him quick for easy shield. Attack regret 2 or 3 times and you will prolly get a checkpoint, if not there is a guaranteed way to get at least one checkpoint..... Just run all the way out of the temple you'll have some elites to backsmack so do not smash any turrets yet. Walk to one of the doors on either side of the main entrance, peak around untill they are shooting at you. Get them to start overheating their guns but keep hiding by the door. They will probably run up to you one at a time 🤪.

[@xXJLNINJAXx]

There are no clones in this boss fight. You also probably placed those barricades wrong if those grunts were vaulting.

[@blackmetalbreadstick]

I got a checkpoint during the boss battle right before I realized one of my elite barricades had failed and hoooooooo boy my blood was boiling. Managed to find a spot in one of the walled off ramps where the Elites would come look for me and then I could noob combo them, and then before I went after Regret I fixed the barrier mid fight. This is the first time Regret was chasing ME around the map, not the other way around.

[@RaiEmpress87]

Well I’m still suffering on this level but just wanna say we appreciate your hard work silver. Pretty sure you go through a lot of tried and hours of attempts to get most of these guides on deathless. Or they look deathless lol but thanks tho so far your guides have been very helpful needed to switch tactics sometimes. Love you mate your the best ❤❤❤

[@the_rabidsquirel]

Doing this co-op with a friend. We get to Regret, I do the rocket+nade jump in, we're disappointed with no teleport. We had a second rocket launcher so they could've done it too, but since our checkpoint involved killing some enemies first, we didn't want to keep retrying until we both made the jump. I was in, so I just started meleeing everything into place while they waited outside. Quite a while later it's all setup, and we're coordinating to trigger Regret to spawn while being super careful cause we know we don't have a checkpoint yet. I walk out the door when one elite is on cooldown, but I don't think I walked far enough. Both start shooting, so I'm just waiting to maybe try and synch their cooldowns or for them to be distracted by my friend. Then out of nowhere the spawn triggers and I get sworded in the back from an honor guard, and we're all the way back to before the jump in. I really don't want to do all of that again, so we figure, there's two of us, how bad could just going in be? We know we can get at least one checkpoint early in, what if we partially block the elite doors? Then it's potentially just grunts and Regret, and we can also of course sneak the grenades in instead of just punching him. We each had swords to quickly knock the braziers around, while they had a carbine and I had a BR. We spent maybe 15 minutes dying from the initial checkpoint until we finally got another where the first two elite doors were blocked, and we were in a good spot. We died a bunch more trying to block the last two, and eventually we did it. We then both just killed grunts as we saw them, and I focused on chasing down Regret and getting the five plasma nades in. Overall maybe 30 minutes on the whole fight from the first checkpoint. Not as smooth as if we had got the full setup to work, but our partial implementation definitely made it so much easier. I can't imagine trying to do that fight without having seen this guide. All of your LASO guides have been a huge help so far, and we plan to keep using them for the rest of the games as they come out for the MCC on Steam!

[@sheodox]

2:48 Do you have any tips for that grenade jump? I've tried this with a friend and we keep not getting enough distance and only being able to make it to the ledge on the end of the bridge and we can't get back up from there and have to reset. Edit: tried again, we managed to get the hang of that jump. Still had to mercy kill our run nearly 9 hours in because it was getting too late when we were doing our boss fight attempts. Kind of brutal that the save puts you back outside and you have to redo fighting enemies, the grenade+rocket jump, and the setup.

[@omega_squared]

Yo I can't do this jump

[@Omega4Productions]

Just a heads up for those following this guide, playing solo, and relying on the save and quit method when you die...be prepared for a reset every so often. It will happen and best get ready for it. I got to Regret and almost beat the boss when I died, saved and quit, and was back at the beginning. Got up to the second gondola and almost reached the temple again when the ranger noticed me and killed me while hiding...and it reset the mission after I resumed.

[@halfawake3869]

I was having the same issue, even on CE. I ended up finding a workaround that seems to work on PC. If you do the save/quit method and find that you are at the opening cutscene of the mission, quickly hold tab and press alt. Once the program menu opens, spam the "X" button the the upper left of the program for MCC. Once the game force closes, immediately press stop and/or play on mcc in steam to prevent the cloud syncing. Exit out of any steam pop ups that say syncing cloud and keeping pressing play on MCC until it launches. When you go back, you should be where you left off. It works for me every time. I hope this helps someone. Simplified version: If you are forced to restart the mission, force close the game. Keep spamming the play button until you launch the game. Resume where you left off.

[@jakXDbaby]

2:49 okay how? been trying this grenade jump all day lmao

[@nooposite6025]

Same I cant make it at all

[@thetimetraveller2034]

@@nooposite6025 the frag has to detonate behind you in order for it to propel you forward. To practice this, set difficulty on easy, put sputnik and boom skull on and just run outside where you start and practice all you want without interruptions.

[@Lucifronz]

While doing this in co-op LASO, we found it a bit too hard to get over to the gondola by grenade jumping. I always sucked at it and my partner had trouble with input lag and carbine elite/snipers. We usually cleared them but after many failed attempts he left the last two snipers to me. Eventually I said "fuck it, we're doing it normally" and we made our way around. Killed the snipers, hopped up onto the ledge (from the broken pillars, since I already knew about it) and sniped the jackals that spawned in before the gondola. The hunters weren't hard, before them, we mostly just used plasmas and blasted 'em. They died eventually. The enemies on the gondola were a pain, t was mostly the two elites on the gondola itself, but using twin plasma pistols and my battle rifle, I managed to noob combo one from that ledge. The grunts below inside the building that dropped them had enough energy to use. My partner took out the other elite somehow with a beam rifle. Luck and skill combined, I guess. Once they were all dead, Cortana says something like how kind they were for bringing us the gondola. That's your sign to move in (if you couldn't manage the jump in co-op). Since you didn't despawn the enemies, just do what he does in the second gondola and tuck your head into the corner while crouching. I forgot to crouch, so either that or the buggers touching me got their attention and I died a couple times before we just killed some of them and went back to it. From there, we focused on sniping the jackals with our beam rifles and proceeded normally. I couldn't get through that one room with the hunters that come in because I was getting sniped trying to go to the right like in the video. My partner suggested going left if they spawned there and I left it to him while trying to distract enemies and luring them on the starting side. Took him a bit, but he got it. I followed on the left, since you need both players to use the elevator, and didn't seem to get attacked. Enemies were either super distracted or outright despawned. He had to fight off a fair few, sadly, and I didn't want to proceed and mess it up for him until he said he was ready. I was hoping I'd get teleported to save us another death, but it's fine, the room was no threat after he moved through and the rest was clear. The part where you go up the elevator again and exit outside gave us trouble, just like my partner thought, and we had to carefully eliminate the enemies as best we could. I tossed my abundance of plasmas to kill buggers and try to hit elites, only the former really worked though. I recommend it if you stocked up back in the underwater tunnels. They were NOT distracted by the pelican. Or at least one wasn't. Eventually he turned, but not well enough to get in close very easily. He lingered on the cliff to the right. We eventually got lucky with rng and were able to climb up and bash his skull in and we got the rest. Climbed the tree, moved two boxes to the gondola, etc. etc. The setup for Regret, once we were finally lucky enough to kill everyone and get a checkpoint by the door (not sure if killing them all is what gave the checkpoint, but if you can... try it), he rocket and grenade jumped up and spent ALMOST AN HOUR setting up. That was riveting. But worth it. We got another checkpoint as he triggered the spawn and yet another while in the room after I killed the last sword elite. I distracted Regret, killed Grunts on the bottom, and allowed my partner to focus on him. It wasn't too bad. Worse for my partner since I tried and failed to do the grenade thing (I blew up; must have stuck myself instead...), but it was way easier than we expected. With a bit of luck, hopefully you guys will get it, too. Wish Halo 2 saved videos like 3 and onwards. I wanted to save that video...

[@PromisedTriggeringExcalibait]

Keep an eye out once you're at regret, because the grunts are prone to clambering over the DIA barricades. Just kill them till they stop bothering you for a moment and then take the opportunity to bully Regret then rinse repeat.

[@XFerginatorX]

I finally did it. Some additional tips, besides the baracades he put down, i used the remaining forerunner decor to reinforce all the elite spawn doors, 2 additional per door. And with the last 2 i used it on the bottom level 2 side ramps next to that door that never opens but it should from the bottom level of the big doors. Then, instead of initiating the checkpoint and run back in, I b-lined it outside to the gondola. Lcukily i somehow didnt have a second elite to worry about. But kept my rockets ready just in case. When I came back, after I got the checkpoint, I used the rockets on the 2 additional elites to weaken them then one shot them with the BR. Then got the PPs and did the rest and did some melees. Also you can get on the turrets to see your shield strength so I paced how many i destroyed so I could keep running out and get more checkpoints and more shields. Also i got my plasma grenades to stick, its tricky but you have to throw it right as you get through the shield barrier the prophet has as you immidiately board right after. Its hard to time but it does work. Its like deatroying a droideka in startwars, you have to get past the bubble shield

[@frankgriffioen6572]

I couldn't get the grenade timing right at the regret fight so I just grabbed one off the energy swords from the honor guards and lunged/slashed regret once or twice before boarding him. He went down pretty fast that way.

[@drewbaby299]

All that set up at the end and no checkpoints. Brutal.

[@Omega4Productions]

Once you've spawned in the enemies, head back outside to the first gondola. Clear out the remaining enemies in that area and you'll get a checkpoint.

[@HenryMyth]

@@Omega4Productions “Just clear out the enemies” Were it so easy……….

[@turtspotato]

tip: near the end when you kill the enemies just before the rocket jump, you can dual plasma pistol and use both a fully reloaded sniper and a beam rifle to kill both Elites.

[@Dreamativee]

You are literally the best bro.

[@KILLZU42]

Great video man keep it up

[@blicky888]

do not go anywhere near the door when preparing for the prophet fight. even i was about 5 meters from the door and i got a checkpoint and all the enemies spawned in. if this happens you want to go into the front entrance pick off the elites with the carbine and plasma pistol ammo below the sliding door down the ramps. once you stick the prophet you want to run back to the room and go down to the bottom where there ammo is, you will get a checkpoint if you're fast enough. rinse and repeat until you get the 5th stick. this took me about 2 hours to do so it's up to you if you want to do this method or just restart

[@foresthinds542]

Warning: in co-op both people have to make it to the first gondola. You can still make all the enemies not spawn but if you are the only one in the elevator it just won’t go down when you press the button. Wasted and hour to get to this point

[@radishwind]

after two days on this mission i made it to the boss room only to get splattered and the iron workaround did not work, so i spent another full day to redo the mission

[@Lemon_Jackassss]

Anything different with the god despawn on mcc (cn) I cant seem to get it on laso, I got it on the speedrun I did on the mission, do all enemies have to die/fall to there death? I think that would be the issue I’m having is the elites like to bonk on that railing and not fall off the edge, also would melee on the gondola make a difference on mcc (cn) for the despawn? Edit: I couldn’t get it to work for some reason, on mcc (cn) but it worked on easy and legendary for me, just not laso, idk my luck I guess, but if anyone is having trouble getting it to work what I did was the same up until 4:25, then rode the gondola to the second one then jumped over to second gondola hit the switch (this spawns drones and elites on the gondola you were just on) and and killed the drones with the beam rifle and naded one of the elites off the gondola into the water then the second one went to the next area

[@henrygonzalez2697]

Got the rocket jump the first try... got splattered by a crate on the first punch. Great strats bro... just bad luck.

[@zecuse]

Having only 1 grunt up top actually worked really well for me. After Regret teleports, I'd go find a grunt in the lower section with me and melee him for shields. Repeat until I get close to Regret and have a nice amount of overshield in case an honor guard elite shoots me in the back or if a barricade happened to get dislodged (which happened twice but only let 1 elite through). Replacing the barricades was pretty easy if there wasn't a grunt nearby. Most annoying part of the boss fight was probably having to redo the outside part because I suck at the rocket-nade jump.

[@Omega4Productions]

Pretty risky though. I tried a similar strat and the grunts just don't cooperate. You have to get lucky with a back smack because the usual "punch them, spin them, easy back smack" doesn't work on grunts and they'll get some shots in with each melee you do.

[@PromisedTriggeringExcalibait]

After the second gondola if your jetpack elites immediately hide within the temple throw a plasma grenade into the left corridor from the gondola. They'll shuffle about for a moment and stand still in plain view.

[@Comando52Colton]

Is there any way to get a checkpoint after setting up all the boxes and stuff?

[@Omega4Productions]

Go back into the antechamber to where the first gondola is and deal with any remaining enemies from that area. You should get a checkpoint once that's done.

[@krisgardner7160]

I made it all the way to where you switch run throughs, fell off the tree and spawned in the enemies by accident, got a shitty checkpoint where I almost always take several hits, lost all energy and quit my last attempts for the day ;(

[@TehCrankySpanky]

CO-OP Players: BOTH players need to make the grenade jump at the beginning. If only one goes across on the gondola, the pelican wont drop the two marines, and you CANNOT activate the elevator.

[@xMERKaDERKx]

BOSS FIGHT CHECKPOINT TIP AND CO-OP HELP: At the end, right before the rocket jump after killing all the enemies, if you want a checkpoint, you can cross that dirt/concrete barrier by like a foot or two (in classic) to go into Regret's palace thing and then go back outside. You'll get a checkpoint or two and can keep trying the rocket jump with ease. Make sure you have full shield before the checkpoint so you don't lock yourself out of the jump. ALSO, after you've built the entire inside arena and fortified it, your co-op partner can stay outside and do that same checkpoint zone explained above to give you another blessing of a checkpoint after 20-30 min of setting up the boss area. This will also spawn in all the enemies so make sure the fortifying is done first. Then while fighting the boss, do it slowly and surely, don't make any drastic mistake or accidentally blow up the barriers out of the way or waste too much ammo for the grunts as you'll then get plenty of checkpoints during the fight and can't go back, like 10 of them!

[@xMERKaDERKx]

@@MickeyBassman Sorry, the dirt/metal barrier at the entrance of the boss fight building! This checkpoint strat I found is extremely helpful because you can attempt the rocket jump as many times as you want very quickly without going through that long beginning fight over and over that is frustrating. And you can also get a checkpoint to save all the work you do when fortifying the inside by touching that same barrier with your co-op player. It takes very very long to fortify and the smallest error could kill you or start the boss fight prematurely, so its very important you save at the right moment as this is the hardest mission yet!

[@Zarrex]

Doing this today coop and im dreading that nade jump onto the temple lol. Hopefully we both have enough shields to make it up there

[@pekoneko117]

"thinking emoji"... I saw the first upload, and I gotta say... apart from the difficulty of the rocket jump from the gondola, I realize that placing all the crates and barricades BEFORE the cutscene it's better cause then you hit the cutscene, and you have a checkpoint, with all the crates already placed. With this new method, I don't think you get a CP after entering the building, so It's more risky, as if you get killed in the battle with Regret, you will need to place all crates again, and that is so time consuming.

[@HaloCompletionist]

True, but you this way you dont accidentally trigger the cutscene forcing you to either restart or deal with regret the old fashioned way. Also you avoid saving/quiting/resuming endlessly trying to get the jump exactly right. This jump is extremely easy. You actually get a lot of checkpoints during the Regret battle using these strats since there's rarely ever any enemies nearby. The reason you rarely get them normally is because you're usually swarmed and the area is not safe enough. And it's now coop friendly.

[@dmadam3023]

You can actually get a checkpoint with everything in order for the boss fight: 1) clear all the enemies before the rocket jump. The elite that retreats charges if you linger around the entrance. (I used 1 of the 4 turret before fighting the last elite) 2) After the rocket jump and decoration placement you want to go trough the door down the ramp (i even went back outside). As soon as the checkpoint clicks bolt back inside as fast as humanly possible (Elites will spawn at the bottom of the ramp). Use the rockets on the sword elites and finish them off with the Br. If after a few tries you realize the checkpoint you got is a dead end and you cannot reach the boss room go ahead and dashboard > manage game > clear local save. If you are willing to try this method you should let at least a few hours pass os that your previous save gets backed up on the cloud. GG

[@halolasomaster3900]

Just a tip when you melee you can B Y B to speed it up like B X B