Hamilton: Is that an Alpine, or 2019 Ferrari?

[@yelistener]

What not to do when blue-flagged: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpvWaIB-a7yZkMU

[@A-BYTE94]

look also on RPM, Mercedes hat much shorter gear ratios

[@norwegiantroll2480]

You should show how Ferrari was pulling away. Not the words of Hamilton. They are not so important.

[@thedailygrind8]

Just goes to show the aero efficiency of that Redbull although they were running a shorter wing than Ferrari, it was bigger than Alpine and they were still only 4 kmh off, amazing.

[@nicholasbradshaw]

The other cars in 2022 could definitely get closer to Red Bull's speed if they weren't wasting energy bouncing themselves to bits.

[@groundedgaming]

​@@nicholasbradshawunfortunately the teams know that too, and they can't do anything about it (except cry and force all teams to raise floor edge by 15mm)

[@kaveeshakarunaratne8961]

@@nicholasbradshaw @Nicholas Bradshaw Ferrari probably could've but they always had to run a bit of extra wing because their car was quite hard on its tyres. Keep in mind that RBR never pushed their engines hard during 2022. Ferrari did during the first half of the season and they were still slower. RB were super fast on the straights while being extremely kind on its tyres.As a whole package the RBR was just unbeatable. That car was a masterpiece. Top speed is not everything.Teams have to find the best compromise between downforce and top speed.

[@nicholasbradshaw]

Baku doesn't have a balance, at least from my perspective. The straights (plural) are obscenely long, and the corners in the middle that would have seen downforce oriented setups reign supreme are either: a) too gentle to slow down the top speed cars, b) too slow for wing setup differences to matter, or c) so tight you'd need to start the race with half a car to squeeze in. (I'm not an expert. I just know a few things about motorsports from my time playing "pretend racecar driver" on the internet.)

[@MuhammadNiz007]

Not aero efficiency. The suspension geometry is the trick. There car has a clever mechanical suspension which allows them to run lower without porposing that's why the Red bull has the most amount of sparks

[@MrHoangShock]

That Merc was porpoising so violently.

[@Rurushu13]

absolute nightmare

[@jamsbong]

Ham took so much time getting out of the cockpit at the end of the race and then told everyone how incredibly bad his backache was.

[@djdrastic1]

Please FIA, nerf the other cars because our car sucks.

[@bryanlewis3913]

@@djdrastic1 And and and, Since we can't win a race anymore. Lets try again to strip Max from his 1st Championship just to make us feel like we are on top again :P ( Incoming Ham fan boys )

[@djdrastic1]

@@bryanlewis3913 Feels like only yesterday they proclaimed about the 'undisputed goat' the following ... "He could win in a Williams" 😂😂😂

[@santos4004]

I think this also happened in suzuka 2022 where hamilton losing out in straight against alpine despite he has better exit toward the straight

[@ytbior]

Just shows that this cars are way too reliant on DRS. We need more nimble and agile cars instead of these School busses

[@MrSafari1998]

It's also because Ocon is known to be one of the best on a wet circuit !

[@miszehajxi1622]

​@@MrSafari1998ocon destroyed Alonso in points

[@Mr-sBinotto]

Yeah. Juzh123 showed Lewis's qualifying lap and Lewis was not even 300 goin through 130R. At that point i think everyone understood that Mercedes concept is very draggy.

[@ploppyjr2373]

@@miszehajxi1622 and?

[@内田ガネーシュ]

Ahh yes the legendary W13, codename "Unsolicited Vibrator".

[@alessandroledda6480]

Bit harsh innit

[@内田ガネーシュ]

@@alessandroledda6480 yes but it's the honest truth. and one where I wish W13 is made for the W series. ; P

[@JohnWiku]

I'm sure hammy boi loved it all 😂😂

[@n.n9056]

You mean the spine crusher

[@内田ガネーシュ]

@@n.n9056 you mean the once and only lumbar spondylosis incuder? why yes indeed.

[@madmanf1179]

Can’t imagine the physical pain Hamilton and Russell endured that weekend

[@skiran6316]

Self inflicted Mercedes should have looked after the safety of the drivers😂

[@Spyker8921]

@@skiran6316 Who asked?

[@skiran6316]

@@Spyker8921 Toto with his fking agenda 😂 he has it printed go ask him

[@keithsebastian16]

@@skiran6316 Who asked?

[@schumbo8324]

@@skiran6316 thx for the reply mate(i had asked, you bozos)

[@val_de_maar]

Love the style and the explanations of your newest videos. Thanks for listening :)

[@dogcat9920]

The porpoising killed me

[@BlueCollar80]

It also killed his back 😅

[@sergioferrero46]

Amazing content mate, even better than usual with this new, highly detailed format. Keep it up!

[@A-BYTE94]

look also on RPM, Mercedes hat much shorter gear ratios

[@SuperNinety-Three]

See, this is exactly the type of content F1 account should post in their socials or at least here in KZbin. Thank you very much for this amazing content yelistener, you are a legend sir.

[@SKARIMDEUS]

Thought the same thing, In fact all the things I know I learned them from amateur pages - accounts and websites, them official pages, it's total crap and wherever you click, MF it's you gotta pay. and Indeed this is the content that can drag more fans to the discipline

[@valle3452]

The 2022 Alpine was a half-decent car. I honestly thought that with a bit more time they'd sort the crappy reliability out; I was convinced that Alonso had lost out on a decent seat after the dust from the Piastri contract saga had settled, since he jumped that ship before the matter got resolved. Turns out his move to Aston Martin was an inspired one.

[@ryanjonathanmartin3933]

Yeah, I second that. People say that McLaren lost 4th to Alpine because of DR, but I disagree. The McLaren was quite slow by the end of the season and in the races I always saw the Alpines having a pace advantage over the McLarens.

[@darisumarty]

@@ryanjonathanmartin3933 Look at Lando s points and DR Points, and u can say that DR really lost it

[@Magic_Alonso]

Back when Alpine were a top 5 team and one of the most loved

[@Malenbolai]

the top 5 is too close for Alpine I can't see them near reb ferrari aston merc or Mclaren so being 6 th would already be an achievement but I guess sauber the willies and haas took that space already

[@Magic_Alonso]

@@Malenbolai yeah

[@imoanadz]

back when alpine had decent engineers, livery and car

[@totowolff69420]

Now they're a yoke

[@idk-we5lj]

Sauber is the worst team scoring 0 points in the season so far, alpine williams and haas are doing significantly better​@@Malenbolai

[@vadortech]

Kudos to Ocon and Fernando for driving a lower drag car through those corners.

[@j.s3300]

Mike Elliott, you tried, buddy

[@barandemir364]

Mike Elliott disasterclass 🔥🔥

[@totalmadnesman]

He should have sticked with Engines lol. He is not a good aero guy.

[@zzgaming29]

To be fair to Mike, he had nothing to do with the car as Technical Director. When James Allison was still Technical Director in 2019 he came on Beyond the Grid and talked about how he doesn’t actually have any role as a car designer in that position, his job is just to manage people and resource.

[@zzgaming29]

@@totalmadnesman you’re thinking of Andy Cowell, Elliot was literally Head of Aero lol, that’s his focus

[@kaveeshakarunaratne8961]

That he did, He failed the mission successfully.

[@bjhbjhbjhweeee]

In Baku, Hamilton was also hard to drive in a straight line.

[@leoarevalo6786]

Just realized what you said

[@xcalibur4376]

Ayo💀

[@ShirayukiRaito]

I mean his car is bouncing like crazy

[@TheUKNutter]

Mark Webber scream

[@kanata4g63]

bro 🗿

[@sbrader97]

This was like the inverse of what happened at Jedda with Piastri not having a big enough gain with drs to get the overtake done on Hamilton becuase Merc ran monza spec wing

[@illyricus.]

This is quite wrong actually. In Jeddah merc was only fast in slow corners. Lewis himself was 0.6 seconds slower than Max in high speed corners. Mclaren also was faster than Mercedes on the straights. The reason Lewis was holding Piastri back is all the last corner. Lewis always gained on Piastri at the final corn e which leads to the long straight. (If you can’t remember the corner is the one where Max crashed). Piastri would gain a lot on Lewis right until the corner entry (bc of the drs- where Max and Charles played drs Chicken) and Lewis would gain up to 3 tenths on that corner only leaving Piastri with a lot of work to do.

[@5950ziel]

This is the most aero efficient Formula 1 channel on youtube. Mega job you are doing man.

[@syntheovaldy5173]

this channel is godly fr

[@keiya9895]

You can really hear the bouncy bad times the merc was going through

[@OMIIIIIIIIIII_]

W13 before being fixed was wild

[@rroberts2023]

Fun fact, the Alpine was quickest at Baku 2023 free practice. Wouldn't have been interesting if Ocon didn't encounter a safety car incident because he had to drive as long as possible with the Hard compound, before changing to Soft before the last lap and the incident with the FIA photographers standing on pits.

[@Real28]

Things you won't here in Formula 1 2024 for $2000, Alex.

[@kalaharikreef7371]

The Merc sounds like the blades that has gone one a electric shaver.

[@nestroit5010]

one of the best F1 channels for fans.

[@Dxbestani]

Amazing vid as always. You need to make more and longer videos, I enjoy them a lot. Keep up brother.

[@OscarZheng50]

Redbull running that big of a rear wing and still managing to go super fast down the straights💀

[@heavensent7183]

Yeah, I smell cheating.

[@OscarZheng50]

@@heavensent7183 i mean they cheated in 2021 when they overspent

[@A-BYTE94]

​@@OscarZheng50that is true

[@OscarZheng50]

@@A-BYTE94 I think they just have a very aerodynamically efficient car, I don't see how they can make their car quicker in a straight line without getting caught. ferrari's mega engine got banned and the fia learned to look out for that and they cant modify their engine to make it more powerful

[@slipstream01]

OP analysis. Love it.dont u think the last corner exit speeds matter for the Top Speed on the Straights?

[@kaveeshakarunaratne8961]

It does, Lewis was always gaining time through the corner exit but he starts to bleed time after just a few meters of straight. That Alpine just goes hard while the Merc is busy bouncing itself into the shadow realm.

[@yayyo3226]

It certainly does, but it's not the end-all, be-all

[@Zyvold]

It does but on a straight as long as Baku's the impact is minimal after a few hundred meters

[@bayestraat]

Insane to think he can drive a jumping jack for 2 hours straight

[@wittisy]

gotta love it when people called this a skill issue. I guess Hamilton should've just stepped on the gas harder LOL

[@rcbb2378]

Only legends realise that this is old video after watching entire video

[@estenba]

Kinda like 2014-2016 merc to the rest of the field, but they can keep the high downforce as well lol

[@tharikzulfiquar]

will be interesting to see how is it in 2023

[@kaveeshakarunaratne8961]

Should be way better this year.Merc is not RB level quick on the straights but it is actually one of the quicker cars on the straights. They just don't seem to gain much when the DRS gets actuated.

[@Bearcat299]

Give me vibe of 2009 Turkish gp: "It’s embarrassing! I can’t even keep up with the fricking Renault in front."

[@Bs_Void]

AI in F1 22 be like:

[@DavidCaudry]

Merc : Watch me bounce !

[@_mundi]

interesting how merc’s rpm was 1100 more than alpine’s despite only going 5kph faster

[@ryanjonathanmartin3933]

Their biggest issue in 2022 was aerodynamic drag, especially from the wings because they had to neuter the floor to stop the porpoising. This year they are not bad on the straights but they lack downforce, which is an even worse problem. And this stems from how difficult the setup window is for this car concept. At certain tracks they have to run very aggressive wing camber to be somewhat competitive in the corners, but at the cost of top speed. Then if they trim the wings they have a competitive top speed but they suck ass in the corners.

[@porama15199]

But Alpine also lost the grip in cornering? As we saw in Q and race.

[@memolano100]

Every single car is too fast for Hamilton, unless he is ahead of them. If you took him seriously you would think that he drives the worst car in the field, and that it has no tires.

[@AnggaTangerang]

No Lewis, its just your Merc going slower.

[@alexlacl8730]

More like both

[@bikerace1684]

Imagine that porpoising scenario. I really have to give it to Hamilton and Russel to endure it.

[@cro9909]

Dude, I love your channel, so please don't keep using titles that make it look like someone said something they never said. Come on.

[@muskiet8687]

I'm not so sure if the top speed on the straights during qualifying is a good indicator for how slippery the rear wing is, since all those top speeds were achieved with the rear wing open in a DRS zone.

[@vamositalia4600]

No wonder he had a backache at the end of the race, jeez look at that car😲

[@kejserrige]

Your F1 videos are amazing

[@milol.akkaraprud8681]

KZbin recommended me this vid after 2024 opening... ageed like fine milk ig

[@truegret7778]

That would be why they seek the right "balance" in the car. It isn't about top speed only, or cornering speed only. It is about the balance between the two, to minimize the overall lap time.

[@Anteater23]

Perhaps having a slightly worse lap time is better if it makes it harder for people to overtake you.

[@valkeitos]

Would love to see last year's Alpine vs the RB19 at Jeddah

[@butterflyeffect7851]

Ah. Merch porpoising good to see back again

[@_vivek10_]

02:44 R.I.P Headphone users

[@MuhammadNiz007]

Nah that 2019 Ferrari was a different animal. Remember it had like a 30kph advantage over Mercedes in Spa

[@MM93_SV5]

bro look at the porpoising... no wonder they are so slow Alpine: Jiggle Jiggle RB: Flat as a lake Ferrari: Jiggle Jiggle Merc: I'M MOVING UP AND DOWN, SIDE TO SIDE, LIKE A ROLLER COASTER

[@SuperSilver301]

0:50 That porpoising man

[@TeoCobos33]

I love this Channel so much 👏

[@Optimum_Gaming]

Lewis and george getting concussions during each race lol

[@Malenbolai]

there is a second one piston engine under that merc

[@KTLam]

I immediately noticed RBR was the only one not porpoising. The other 3 did, with the mercs as the worst..

[@thememaster7]

This assumes both riders were driving perfectly at that point.

[@marshmello3381]

welcome to 2024, alpine is really fast xD

[@cseabrook3]

That proposing sounds brutal

[@F1Guy-Guy]

That Hamilton guy wasn't telling lies about his tractor

[@BullmastiffForce]

Hamilton says that about every car these days.

[@DBDYAKU]

Well he might said this again

[@johngardner529]

the Mercedes is shit on the straights regardless of what ocon and his team was doing with the car

[@chalo212]

I like Hamilton more and more... i just cant stop noticing how when he wins its thanks to him but when other drivers wins 'they are super fast on the straights'

[@nelsonngamaleu3253]

He always congratulates his team. Dude is so professional your only instigating here because you hate the guy for nothing

[@ryanjonathanmartin3933]

When did he say it was "thanks to him"?

[@screwdriver4862]

At what distance do we consider the tailing car to be benefiting from tow/slip stream?

[@withoutcontext786]

if this is the case why dont the other teams just run less wing? clearly most of the lap time is determined by the straights

[@ryanjonathanmartin3933]

Because they will have terrible performance in the sections without straights.

[@rvtendulkar142]

Only legends will understand that he is asking to check engine irregularities with Renault like Ferrari in 2019

[@yahyarajaee5883]

Remember when cars didn’t bounce on straights? Good old days.

[@olivercirillo3344]

It all depends on the exits on the last few turns

[@giuseppemaggio5894]

Such a big difference cannot just be related to the setup though. The 2022 Ferrari was very draggy but it still reached 330 km/h without toe or DRS. Mercedes had a pure power deficit. And that deficit still persists today as it's believed that Mercedes has around 15-20 hp less than Ferrari and Honda.

[@czrptr6849]

I doubt is power the car looks like a pig

[@Prince_Vegeta_BMW]

The Ferrari reached 333kmh in Q3 with DRS.

[@ryanjonathanmartin3933]

If they had a power deficit they would have horrible acceleration off the line, but they don't, even though their 2022-23 cars are heavier relative to the competition. Their problems lie in their car's aerodynamics, not their PU, which is probably still the best on the grid.

[@giuseppemaggio5894]

@@ryanjonathanmartin3933 No bro, the Mercedes PU is definetely not the best

[@A-BYTE94]

Mercedes had shorter gears

[@fleshesposito]

This is F1 excitement in the 2020s.

[@trousers2]

Love your analysis' mate! You always know the right telemetry to show and highlight

[@rebs4jezus]

Wdym all telemetry is always there 💀

[@gisforgrow9348]

Man the Merc sounds like the first time I tried to lower a Honda civic 😂😂😂

[@EnricoPolanski]

I love your content, keep up! Curiosity: can you monetize the channel?

[@amalxavier5102]

I thought rb has more drs

[@mynewdirectcars1841]

Dude drove the fastest car for 8-10 years straight. Whines about Redbull 1/4 into the season when in reality the Redbulls pace is way lower than the pace of Hamiltons car he drove

[@kaveeshakarunaratne8961]

He was talking about the top speed(with DRS) difference between the RBR and the rest. Its unprecedented. When it comes to overall pace, the 2014 and 2016 Mercs had more margin over the rest of the grid.That is a fact.

[@ryanjonathanmartin3933]

He didn't really have the fastest car in 2017, 2018 or 2021.

[@sunaaan]

never forget what happened to lewis vs schumacher at monza 😂

[@BlueCollar80]

What happened?

[@bryanperez9020]

@@BlueCollar80 Hamilton couldn’t get past Schumacher cause the Mclaren had very short Gear ratios compared to the Mercedes. Also Schumacher drove dirty vs Hamilton and should have got a penalty according to the steward who was overlooking the race.

[@theempires5]

​@@bryanperez9020 Nah,Schumacher defending was within the rule. Only at Curva Grande where Lewis had a look down the inside was kinda over the limit slightly

[@bryanperez9020]

@@theempires5 No it was dirty. Ross Brawn told him the chill for a reason.

[@sadikurrahman4833]

@@theempires5 anything Schumacher does is dirty don’t try and defend him. Couldn’t even get close to rosberg

[@jamescameron204]

*Is it the differential gearing or is that standard across all cars?

[@Kaspar008]

Mercedes: Phone shakes violently

[@SKBSKBSKBSKBSK]

He doesn’t need amg anymore. A new team/challenge would be beneficial.

[@tlalicetears649]

Vettel on Hamilton, Kemmel straight 2017

[@ryanjonathanmartin3933]

Vettel stayed within 2 seconds of Hamilton for most of the race. I'm sorry but Hamilton won that race because he was able to keep Vettel behind. His car was maybe better but only slightly.

[@bubkabu]

it would be nice if you wrote in the title and/description, which year this video is referring to

[@Icasus]

That is painful... just like the porpoising of that merc.

[@danpearce4547]

The Alpine 8th gear was a LOT longer than the Merc.

[@darylyatestransportblogs]

The porpoising was dangerously bad on that Mercedes at Baku last year, glad they were less extreme with the ride height after that.

[@A-BYTE94]

Sure

[@rongiefaustino8867]

I see more teams trying a Monza setup this weekend at Baku.

[@frankderksen9536]

Meanwhile the rb hits easy 345+ lol

[@TheLemps2012]

“Change ya fuckin caaaaar”

[@Dennis-if6fo]

what is tow? new to f1

[@SilverScarletSpider]

it is really cool to see the 2023 Alpine out gun a mercedes with TOW and DRS on this track specific high speed straight. lulu Hamilton is just making a fool of himself here

[@tiroramasodi741]

that Alpine was flying

[@BetaHaedar]

Fast forward to 2024 and Alpine is the slowest.

[@misterredbull_jr.]

Sauber?

[@MW-uq1xn]

red bull rb19 will be beast on straight in Baku

[@KBowWow75]

Posted in 2023, but is about 2022.

[@nguyentuananhphan8644]

best analysis

[@knightonwarbeck1969]

Excellent channel with GREAT content. Love the comparisons. Keep up the good work. Thank you. Please add 10-20 hashtags to each video description, including past videos, so F1 fans know how to find you. This will GROW your views and subscribers.

[@MW-uq1xn]

366 kph is the speed record in Baku. i wonder if the red bull rb19 will beat this speed record

[@godzvnm]

its 372.

[@MW-uq1xn]

@@godzvnm ok thanks i have question whose speed is it ?

[@MW-uq1xn]

@@godzvnm i found info that valteri bottas reached 378kmh in 2016 in Baku, date from williams telemetry

[@godzvnm]

@@MW-uq1xn well yeah it is bottas at 378 in a practice or qualy session. i was talking about his race top speed being 372, sorry i should have said that.

[@GG-bi2jz]

Renault : 1000hp PU Mercedes : "GP2 ENGINE !!"

[@АлексейЕфимов-к4б]

Как же Мерседес красиво дельфинирует, жаль что сейчас перестал😢

[@danieledimilito]

what you mean with “overpowered ferrari?”

[@eden5260]

Top speed in qualifying is stupif because they all use DRS The larger difference is when they dont have it