Hamilton Noob Listens to "What'd I Miss" & "Cabinet Battle 1" | It Got WILD...

[@YoBGS]

Hey! Sorry about the loud volume in the beginning of What'd I Miss, I was excited and had it cranked lol. Also, the reason I pause so much is bc these videos get blocked very easily so 1) I have a lot to say and 2) I wanna make sure you actually get to see these. THANKS for checking out the video, have a phenomenal day and remember to SUBSCRIBE if you like it!!

[@alyssawaters7781]

Next you should do Take a Break and Say No To This in the same video

[@gailb7501]

I don't know if you know about the Ham4Ham shows. They are fun little things the Hamilton cast did to entertain the people waiting for the $10 ticket lottery. I wouldn't recommend watching them until after you've seen the whole show (possible spoilers) but there are 2 of 'Cabinet Battle #1' that I think are cool. In the first, they reverse their roles, and in the second, it's spoken, which doesn't sound cool, but is, which was filmed in the White House. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6qpaXqPjq6FgpI kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2LQipmpg6unfas

[@tmaster3332]

you should react to cg5's new song for the movie the bad guys

[@IwasntHerebruh]

Yo, the reason Daveed is Lafayette and Jefferson in Hamilton is that Lafayette was a Frenchman obsessed with America and Jefferson was an American obsessed with France

[@AubreyAuthor]

It has been said that Jefferson's music is so jazzy because he is stuck in the past, rather than the progressive hip hop of the other characters.

[@ladyshar42]

yeah, the line about "basically missing the late 80s" goes for the musical style as well

[@YoBGS]

Haha I love the thought of someone in the 1700's being hopelessly caught in the past. I'll definitely keep that in mind moving forward tho!

[@emmettmcnally740]

I think my favorite part of What'd I Miss is the fact that while everyone else stays within the melody while welcoming him home, except for Hamilton, who barges in with his own damn theme song

[@wuttatota148]

Very in-character for him

[@YoBGS]

Haha I didn't notice that but you're so right. He knows he's the main character at this point

[@Rocio.Suarez]

Also the line "Thomas Jefferson is comming home" is a paralel with "George Washington is going home" but one line is in minor key and the other, in mayor Edit: it also could be one ascending and the other, descending

[@ShoummoBairagi]

@@Rocio.SuarezAh, I love the mayor key!! Gotta be my favourite key!

[@saiyasha848]

Funny Tidbit: Madison _always_ coughed. It is well documented in letters to and about him that he seems to have always been somewhat sickly. The Kicker? he lived the longest of the founding fathers.

[@kittypeanut4102]

Wow. That's weird. I would've assumed he died younger.

[@saiyasha848]

@@kittypeanut4102 yup. 85. That man made it _long_

[@YoBGS]

Apparently if you are always *mildly* sick it keeps you from getting *mega* sick? It's a strat

[@disableddragonborn]

He was famously a hypochondriac.

[@kiraalldredge48]

My favorite part of 'what did I miss' is when Washington greets Jefferson in tune with the song and Hamilton cuts in to introduce himself with the tune from 'Alexander Hamilton'.

[@wuttatota148]

That's my favorite part too! Amazing how Lin shows their personalities through these little tidbits

[@YoBGS]

It's all of those little touches that make this such a like great experience

[@godabandonedthistimeline]

One of the funniest things about the fact that the same actor plays Lafayette and Jefferson is that: Lafayette: Frenchman obsessed with America Jefferson: American obsessed with France Also these two in real life were friends. The reason why the music of What Did I Miss is jazz is because Jefferson missed the entire revolution or should I say "Missed the late 80s" and as Hamilton told him in Cabinet battle #1 "Welcome to the present, we're running a real nation" to show how behind the times he was.

[@winnipeginstinct]

I would also like to point out lafayette is one of washingtons right hand men through the war, and jefferson comes back to be his secretary of state

[@disableddragonborn]

I'm not seeing the connection between Jefferson being behind the times and jazz...

[@godabandonedthistimeline]

@@disableddragonborn Almost everyone else in the musical sing in styles of music that are "new". Jefferson came in with a jazz song which is a lot "older".

[@YoBGS]

That makes sense. And that's pretty much the basis of Hamilton's attacks on Jefferson in general while Jefferson's thoughts were did tend to be more idealistic.

[@amylowery1829]

The reason he is singing in jazz style is exactly what you thought. He was gone for so long that he did not know what was “modern” in the USA. the king sings in the style of the Beatles because he is British.

[@YoBGS]

OMG THE KING DOES SING LIKE THE BEATLES! I don't know how I didn't notice that sooner but you're spot on!

[@mattwormington1473]

"i can't believe that we are free!" he says as his slaves push him around the stage

[@kyemoreno]

Apparently it’s also worth noting that What’d I miss is the only song where the ensemble is wearing bow ties to basically signify slavery. That Jefferson basically came home to his own slaves greeting him. 😮

[@YoBGS]

Ohhhhhhhhhhh... (I tried to think of something clever but I'm just kinda amazed by that)

[@lyannastark628]

Wow! I never noticed that, but they do very much look like and carry themselves like servants when he's coming down the stairs.

[@wolfdreamer8113]

Actually Thomas Jefferson was referencing an actual event when he talked about taxing whiskeys. In the play the cabinet meeting took place in 1789. The whisky rebellion took place in 1791 and was about you guesses it taxing whiskey.

[@magiv4205]

They also actually mentioned the Whiskey Rebellion in the workshop version of One Last Time!

[@DylanSargesson]

A workshop version of One Last Time (called "One Last Ride") has a section that addresses how Washington and Hamilton responded to the Whiskey Rebellion. Washington gets his own "da da da da" riff akin to King George's - representing how Washington's militia against the Whiskey rebels was just like the British troops in the Independence war

[@st4rpt_603]

@@magiv4205 It does, and we also have the iconic "PAY YOUR FUCKING TAXES!" line

[@magiv4205]

@@st4rpt_603 A.k.a. the most legendary line of Hamilton, that ISN'T EVEN IN THE FINISHED MUSICAL

[@dlweiss]

I love all the subtle lyrical reminders of Jefferson's slave-owning hypocrisy. Saying things like "Looking at the rolling fields I can't believe that we are free" when those fields were almost certainly filled with workers who were definitely NOT free.

[@sherimeinburg3066]

The connections of the characters that swap roles is actually spelled out in the first song. When you finish the show, you should go back and listen to the Song "Alexander Hamilton" and when it get to the section of the song that spotlights the other 8 main characters pay attention to what they say and how it relates to each act.

[@michelle4969]

You learn something new everyday. Hadn't even made that connection until you pointed it out. Thanks!

[@bettinahuntenburg488]

Yep, “we fought with him” includes Hercules Mulligan and Lafayette (fought alongside in the war), while Madison and Jefferson battled Hamilton politically (fought with/against).

[@Zander2212]

@@bettinahuntenburg488 spoilers Also, "Me, I died for him." applies to both Laurens and Phillip.

[@hollys499]

@@Zander2212 oh noooo

[@YoBGS]

I really really was considering almost making another video on the initial song again. It's the first one I did in the musical but like when you don't know what to expect there are PILES and piles of foreshadowing that you just miss

[@liamwhite3522]

The piano backing Cabinet Battle is the same run of notes as in Ten Duel Commandments. Both are 1-on-1 fights, fought with different weapons.

[@bloodyuk8452]

Plus the guns used in the duels and the mics for the rap battles are kept in the same box

[@StoryMing]

The microphones are even taken out of a pistol box

[@YoBGS]

I wonder if that will be brought back in other conflicts that I'm assuming will be arriving later on

[@StoryMing]

@@YoBGS the box? Yes, I believe you will see that box again.

[@the_UF365]

Daveed Diggs is a national treasure.

[@YoBGS]

I'm convinced he could nail literally any role in anything ever.

[@azul_trejo12]

I would consider him a global treasure 😉

[@godabandonedthistimeline]

I know right! His facial expressions and his energy are awesome!😂

[@landonbolton9789]

16:30 Actually a real quote from Hamilton to Jefferson is "There are approximately 1,010,300 words in the English language, but I could never string enough words together to properly express how much I want to hit you with a chair."

[@YoBGS]

Hamilton was Stone Cold Steve Austin 100 years before wrestling was invented

[@PinesLife]

Ok, so Madison had a condition that got him really sick sometimes, I don't remember what it was. But the funny thing is, they had Oak (Hercules Mulligan and Madison) one of the taller actors, play the shortest president.

[@tandnmom100]

Wasn't he basically a hypochondriac? Meaning, he wasn't exactly sick all the time, he just thought he was?

[@PinesLife]

@@tandnmom100 I think so, I have no idea about it, I just don't know that type of stuff.

[@elly_hermione]

@@tandnmom100 he actually had something that was assumed to be epileptic seizures (but probably wasn't as he managed to get rid of it, which is impossible for actual epilepsy) and chronic asthma, so, probably no, he wasn't just hypochondriac

[@YoBGS]

That is super ironic because I was sitting there thinking about how imposing Madison looked... not IRL apparently

[@Brian-xf4sh]

The actors playing different roles because they have the same theme was told in the first song "Alexander Hamilton". When each actor or set of actors is singing in the first song, they sing about their personal feelings for Hamilton right at the end (i.e. Washington states, I trusted him...). That is the connection between the roles they play throughout the play.

[@YoBGS]

YES! Okay I remember those lines! But I'm guessing their feelings are going to manifest themselves in different ways as Act 2 plays itself out

[@Jamie9356]

@@YoBGS Opening song: "We fought with him" (Act one: we fought with (ALONGSIDE) him - Act two: we fought with (AGAINST) him)

[@colt1903]

Bit of an interesting detail not many catch. Before he does the "raise the roof" gesture he shakes the hand of one of the black extras and then immediately wipes his hand off on his jacket like he just touched something filthy.

[@serendipity191]

That’s one of those details I didn’t catch until about my third watch.

[@ayannaliwilliams9992]

I have watched this show so many times and never caught that! Wow, thanks for pointing out something new.

[@Toria._.]

Its funny because he CONSTANTLY shakes hands with Madison, who is always sick,

[@StoryMing]

5:44 -- yes, the ragtime style is an intentional commentary on Lin's part about Jefferson's being out of touch while the country has progressed (to hip hop, etc.) 15:30 -- From what [little] I understand, Jefferson was... conflicted in his stance on slavery. Theoretically / ideologically he was in favor of emancipation, But-- the man OWNED SLAVES himself, including his mistress, Sally Hemings ("Sally be a lamb, darlin' won't you open it?") At some point you might like to check out "Cabinet Battle 3" which was cut from the final show. 16:46 -- "Hamilton's greatest downfall is his unwillingness to compromise" -- Ooooooooohhhhh man, just wait until you see what's coming in the next few songs...!

[@edisonlima4647]

Besides being unwilling to do it, he is terrible at presenting it diplomatically. Whenever he goes for compromise he gets mostly hate for it because, as he mentioned to Burr in Non Stop, Hamilton is always way too loud and abrasive i.e. a belligerent know-it-all. Which is his (and like half the people around him) downfall.

[@jcompton8507]

I think it came down to selfish reasons for Jefferson. Jefferson lived outside of his means and Monticello was constantly in debt, so he couldn't afford to free his slaves or he would have lost everything. So while he would wax poetic about the "slavery conundrum" with his anti-slavery friends, he would turn around and say that Africans were intellectually inferior to white people - and even Native Americans - to his pro-slavery friends. (Not at taking even a moment to wonder how slavery itself would impact the psychological health of those enslaved.) I think this was the piss-poor excuse he used reconcile his ownership of slaves with his ideological and moral beliefs. He also was fond of saying that the issue of slavery was for the "next generation" to figure out. Yet, when his son-in-law, Thomas Randolph, introduced a bill to the VA Senate to gradually emancipate all slaves in VA, he was caught completely flat-footed when his "all men are created equal" father-in-law refused to back him politically. Now don't get me wrong, privately Thomas Randolph was rotten man - an alcoholic who physically abused his family - and he might have been a ticking time-bomb regardless of what happened with this bill. But the bill failed, his political popularity plummeted and he finished 3rd in his next election. As a result, he drank more and went home and took it out on his family - Jefferson's eldest daughter and grandchildren! (I think it got so bad that Patsy and the kids had to move to Monticello?? It's been several years since I read up on all of this...)

[@elly_hermione]

The "hopefully Madison isn't sick!" made me chuckle because Madison in real history had very poor health, with asthma and some sort of seizures, and he was always thin and pale and basically made an impression of a small feeble man (and this impression was so strong that the Congress firstly didn't even take him very serious when he became a delegate). So yeah, our man IS sick. Actually, Hamilton pisses me off so much in Cabinet Battle #1, he's basically bullying Madison for his poor health... like, damn, that's low even for politics

[@addictedtoJB]

It's a rap battle - no one is safe in one. Hamilton acting like Eminem in that battle.

[@anyawillowfan]

Unfortunately ill health and disability is still something seen as weakness, which is why the only visibly disabled President forced himself to stand and walk as otherwise he would never have gotten elected. I'd like to think we've progressed since then, but seeing as The UK Queen and Liza Minelli are 2 very recent examples of not wanting to sit in a wheelchair in public, even though they're harming themselves by not doing so.

[@chiarabookworm4482]

The style of their singing/rapping says a lot about the character. Lafayette at the beginning of act 1 has a very slow rap style, as if he’s learning how to do (as if he’s learning English) and by the end of act 1 he’s rapping so fast, he’s got more confident in the language. Jefferson has a jazz story all the way through because he not ‘up to date’. He’s a bit behind the times. But the you can look at Burr and he doesn’t change, his singing style is the same verse and beat mostly over and over again, he doesn’t grow and change.

[@sinswept]

Jefferson asks "Sally" to open the letter from Washington for him. Sally Hemings was one of his slaves who had come back with him from France. It is generally thought that Jefferson fathered her 6 children but he never actually freed her or them, even on his deathbed. His daughter freed Sally after Jefferson's death.

[@silverstar7187]

Don't worry about the videos being "Too long", I honestly much prefer videos that are around 20 minutes to an hour long over short videos, you get more time to get involved in the video, rather than it ending abruptly or not reaching a satisfying amount of time to feel like you spent the time well.

[@ImMarley]

I think he means when they are long if it gets taken down due to copyright it means we lose a lot more

[@silverstar7187]

@@ImMarley I don't think length matters, as long as he doesn't let it play uninterrupted, he should be fine

[@ImMarley]

@@silverstar7187 i mean if it gets removed for copyright more is lost then in a short video

[@YoBGS]

Thank you, the comments I see on my feed are kinda random and sometimes they are less than kind. Dunno why I let those people take up residence in my head but I do.

[@YoBGS]

@@silverstar7187 You'd be surprised. They hit me with a takedown on Guns & Ships because it was like 15 seconds interrupted.

[@cashlindietrich829]

7:51 Madison was sickly for most of his life, Oak (the actor) coughing is just another great detail in the show.

[@over-educatedxennial6753]

In answer to one of your questions, a diuretic gets things flowing. Hamilton's plan would get money flowing--meaning create an active economy--as opposed to passively (as if on a sedative) allowing debt to destroy the union by following the financial systems of the past.

[@AnjeannetteMarie-Swifie4Ever]

Yep

[@rachaelkilpatrick9774]

Couldn’t have put it better myself, brilliant.

[@over-educatedxennial6753]

@@rachaelkilpatrick9774 Thank you!

[@auriellis]

The opening song dictates all dual characters relations to Hamilton and often has double meanings. "We fought with him" for Jefferson and Lafayette as one fought at his side and the other fought against him.

[@OrielleAloysia]

Not to spoil, but Daveed as Jefferson carries Act 2. Daveed as Jefferson is perfect!

[@st4rpt_603]

Daveed is perfect, period :P

[@Choalith_Ikanthe]

Jefferson is a bloody cool person himself, so there was no one else to put Daveed in the role of. You needed some serious charisma for that, and hot damn if they didn't get it.

[@YoBGS]

I can see it. His character(s) have been picking up momentum and the amount of energy that man has... good lord

[@solangelolover3906]

Layfette is Jefferson Mulligan is Madison Laurens is Philip Hamilton Peggy is Maria Reynolds Also when you get to burn, you should also react to first burn. It was the first draft of the song that Lin wrote. He didn't think it fit her personality so he rewrote it

[@YoBGS]

First Burn sounds like a wild song just from the title

[@joseph.westbury]

6:55 usually goes unnoticed and I forgot his name, but can we take a moment to appreciate the ensemble member that did the splits? Thank you

[@PattyKollias]

That would be Ephraim Sykes, an extremely talented actor/dancer/singer who was originally cast as Michael Jackson in MJ The Musical. Unfortunately production was shut down during Covid and by the time they started back up, he was committed to another project and had to back out of that role. He would have been an amazing Michael Jackson!

[@joseph.westbury]

@@PattyKollias thanks! Ye he is amazing. I had no idea about the Michael Jackson thing, but I can see why he would be great for that

[@minkexmachina1627]

Hamilton days are the best days! Also, not only is Burr the narrator but in the classic Greek tragedy sense he -is- the protagonist of the play Hamiliton (much like Brutus is the protagonist of Shakespeare's Julius Ceasar)

[@JessRansdellSmith]

Antagonist. Unless you are saying that Burr and Brutus were the good guys. :)

[@heart-bitstudio6163]

@@JessRansdellSmith protagonist does not mean good guy, it means that he is de main character

[@heart-bitstudio6163]

@@JessRansdellSmith and antagonist does not mean bad guy, it means that the character's believes and or objectives go against the protagonist

[@minkexmachina1627]

@@JessRansdellSmith In Greek tragedy the protagonist was typically a high class individual with a flaw that leads them to an unhappy ending (Burr's desire to wait and not be confrontational). They stand opposite the chorus and pose a series of question and answers (see all of Burr's narration pieces posed as a question "How does a bastard orphan....?"). They loose everything and are brought low by the consequences of their actions or prophecy from which they must learn a lesson (see "The world was big enough"). Burr is telling the story of how/why HE killed Hamiliton. But this is just one way to look at it and fun way if you haven't watched the play from that perspective before. Miranda wrote an onion of musical :D

[@JessRansdellSmith]

@@heart-bitstudio6163 an·tag·o·nist /anˈtaɡənəst/ Learn to pronounce noun a person who actively opposes or is hostile to someone or something; an adversary. Essentially, the bad guy to the protagonist's good guy.

[@Kierarose216]

Fun fact: Daveed went to Lin and said he was worried about his singing ability, which is understandable when compared to Chris Jackson. Lin told him to commit to a character and not worry so much about the quality of voice. His characters are the most fun of the whole production. And Guns and Ships could not have been done by most people. So props, Daveed!

[@disableddragonborn]

"Trying to mentally prep" We're already in Act Two, why do you still think anyone can mentally prep for any of Alex's bullshit?😂

[@renees4577]

In addition to everything else Lin added to this show, he really plays up the use of musical styles. The King's song is a Beatles/British invasion style "for a real life British invasion". Here, Jefferson uses the old school jazz/boogie piano for his main music because that's where the country was when he was there. But while he was away the country shifted to rap music and he didn't get the memo until after he got back. Lin has him adapting so well to the new country's 'style' that he picks right up and is able to master rap style so well he can go head to head with Hamilton himself. Shows that Jefferson was also super smart (and Lin is too). There's a third cabinet battle that should have made it into the show but didn't. I hope you'll listen to it once you're done with the main show.

[@quaerite.]

The reason Daveed plays both Lafayette and Jefferson is actually really cool! So, in Alexander Hamilton, there's a part where Lafayette and Mulligan say, "We fought with him." But, this can also be applicable to Jefferson and Madison who were played by the same actors, since they also _fought with_ him. The same goes for the other lines: "Me? I died for him." (Laurens/Phillip - Anthony Ramos) "Me? I loved him." (Eliza, Angelica, and Peggy/Maria - Jasmine Cephas-Jones)

[@CABRALFAN27]

Daveed Diggs: Wow, I had a lot of fun in Act 1 as Lafayette. Here's hoping I get more cool raps to do in Act 2. Lin Manuel Miranda: Ya like jazz?

[@griffinwittum5526]

I for one don't mind the pausing. I'm here to see a reaction and hear someone elses thoughts, I know what I clicked on. Bonus that it's something we both enjoy. Keep up the good work, dude. You've quickly become one of my favorite reaction channels.

[@JenCoYT]

So the 'financial diuretic' line... think of a diuretic not as something that makes you go to the bathroom but as a remedy for constipation... you would rather things be free flowing than have a blockage... thats the money metaphor he is making

[@katesullivan4707]

This battle is actually about war debts, which more Northern states had because the war was more there.

[@artistic_anarchy1016]

Just saying I think Yobgs should cosplay as Eliza, I think he’d pull it off. What do you guys think?

[@harmless_spider]

oh yeah definitely

[@YoBGS]

I'm in

[@itsnoprobllama5363]

I think Peggy... :D

[@arjungupta9181]

You're spot on about Burr's narration getting more hateful towards Hamilton You'll also notice that after his big musical number in the second act (no spoilers) he'll start taking control of the narrative, painting Hamilton in a negative light to the audience and justifying his own actions, especially in The World Was Wide Enough

[@joseph.westbury]

I recommend other musicals by a company called Starkid. They make amazing musicals and upload them to KZbin. My favourite is the guy who didn't like musicals which is a horror comedy about an apocalypse of singing zombies with lots of lore, but I also recommend twisted which is aladdin from Jafars POV

[@n4l9bx]

Tgwdlm is straight up fun times, Twisted is a surprise punch in the ❤

[@jayvansickle7607]

I love looking at all the “random” assemble movements. And, How much thought goes into everything on stage.

[@gabrielwhitehurst9850]

I live in Virginia and recently went to see Hamilton. When Jefferson said, "Virginia my home sweet home I wanna give you a kiss" everyone was cheering and yelling.

[@CABRALFAN27]

Also, fun fact, there was actually a cut rap segment in "What'd I Miss" where Madison and Burr actually do tell him what he missed before the Cabinet Meeting.

[@liamwhite3522]

"Take a Break" and "Say No to This" are a pair.

[@marar8045]

Hamilton was a Federalist, believed in one nation with more power to the federal government, while Jefferson was more pro State, believing that the union was good for some things, but each State was basically an independent country. Nowadays we think we’re American first, and then whatever State we’re from, if at all. Back then ppl’s nationality was their State, not the Union.

[@mithroch]

To the best of my knowledge, Jefferson did not go to France until he was sent there as foreign minister... AFTER the war was over. Most of what he missed was the drafting and ratification of the Constitution.

[@miadrew4445]

You mentioned Jefferson putting something about ending slavery in the constitution and it was takin out well, it wasn't the constitution , it was the Declaration of Independence. Jefferson had nothing to do with the Constitution.

[@NarnianQueenForever]

Please don't feel the need to apologize for the video length! We're here for you and your reactions - if we wanted to watch the musical straight through, we could do that on our own. I heard all of Hamilton in bits and pieces out of order over time in the background while at my community theater while working on the set and getting ready for performances before ever watching the whole show all together, so I am absolutely loving getting to see from your perspective what it's like to go into the recording completely unspoiled. It's so cool getting to see the first-time-through experience from you, and the more we get to hear about what you're feeling, the better as far as I'm concerned!

[@madiroser1546]

Man, I love Hamilton day, one of my favorite days of the week

[@CaydenGrimes.]

DAVEEDS DANCING IS MY ENTIRE RELIGION. And Madison was ACTUALLY sick! that's why Oak (Okieriete Onaodowan, Herc and James' Actor!) is coughing and hacking so much! "His voice was so weak that people often had difficulty hearing his speeches, and he was plagued by recurring bouts of 'bilious fever' and what he described as 'a constitutional liability to sudden attacks, somewhat resembling epilepsy.'" also.. "James Madison wont talk to me, that's a nonstarter!" NOT EVEN 5 MINUTES AGO. "Madison You're Mad As A Hatter Son, Take Your Medicine! DAMN You're in worse shape than the national debt is in! Sittin' there useless as two shits, HEY turn around, bend over, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE MY SHOE FITS." I WONDER WHY HE WONT TALK TO YOU A L E X .

[@damionsmith3219]

Jefferson didn’t put anything in the constitution about freeing slaves, in fact he wanted to say a lot about how Britain was the reason why they couldn’t get rid of their slaves(wholly not true, Britain even outlawed slavery before America) but the rest of the writers edited that part out because talking about slavery was a bad look for a country preaching freedom

[@kelly9876]

also Jefferson did not participate in drafting the Constitution; he wrote the Declaration. And he was very happy owing slaves,- sleeping with his slaves and having children with his slave Sally Hemmings

[@amyholzapfel3851]

The founders believed that the we would never get the North and the South to agree on what to do about slavery so they didn't address it in the Articles or the Constitution. They figured they'd leave it to the states to decide and would deal with it later when the Country was stronger.... and we know how well that went

[@peathepeanut27]

Other musicals I recommend listening to based of your channels content: In the heights (also lin manuel), Six (historical) , and Hadestown (mythology)

[@wuttatota148]

Dude Hadestown is sooooo good

[@n4l9bx]

If only the entirety of YT could be Hadestown watch-alongs... get on those professional shoots people 🙃

[@Arricide]

Even thougth Madison was really sickly he outlives Hamilton, Washington, Lafaytte, Burr and Jefferson

[@BlueSodaPop_]

Because of these reactions, I watched Hamilton with my sister last night and we had a blast!

[@abigailschneier9391]

Thomas Jefferson did try to put a condemnation of slavery into documents but he also had hundreds of slaves and had several children with a girl he kept enslaved, Sally Hemmings (who's actually kind of mentioned in what did I miss) starting when she was around 14. She was also his dead wife's half sister and he never freed any of their children. EDIT: I HAVE BEEN INFORMED THAT HE DID FREE HIS CHILDREN.

[@emilylewis5373]

He did free their children.

[@islasullivan3463]

Yep and out of all the founding fathers he had the most slaves, followed closely by George Washington.

[@caitlynp6793]

I know this comment's old, but technically Jefferson never freed Beverly or Harriet, and he only freed Madison and Eston in his will. Furthermore, according to Madison Hemings, Jefferson only freed them because of his negotiation with Sally for her return to Virginia, where she would be enslaved.

[@rottenknight4338]

One thing to take away from this is how in this mindset, and up until the Civil War, is America saw itself in the terms of states forced together and not as one union. Jefferson doesn’t want Virginia to pay debts for New York, because Jefferson doesn’t believe it is their responsibility. At a point where the U.S. is under constant threat of invasion, the states would not work together for each other’s benefit. They instead worked for their own, even if that put the entire union in danger. Whether it be refusing to pay taxes, as the South would do throughout the history of the early U.S., or to abiding by state laws, the states had a selfish point of view.

[@scarley_]

not only is it a convention of theatre (multiple roles) but (and its really smart) in the very first song, 'alexander hamilton', when its near the end, the actors who play mulligan and lafayette sing 'we fought with him'. so in act I, they fought ALONGSIDE hamilton in the war. opposing this, their second characters in act II fought AGAINST hamilton in a political sense..

[@YoBGS]

Ohhhhh so true! And see because I wasn't watching the Disney movie for the first song I completely missed that!

[@scarley_]

@@YoBGS i cant say ive been around too long.. i first watched hamilton in like march and i went into the reaction only knowing a few songs (thanks to wilbur and his turns of karaoke during a karl jacobs stream) and i was obsessed.. so when you find out minor details like this, its always worth another watch thru after finishing it :))

[@regalcartoon5932]

Hamilton: Sittin’ there useless as two shits! Hey, turn around, bend over, I’ll show you where my shoe fits. 16:24 The guy to the right of Washington: Aight, I’ma head out.

[@YoBGS]

Hahaha I hadn't noticed that but you're so right!

[@v.v365]

Common threads between Mulligan and Madison: their strength of will and their secrecy and tact, since Mulligan was a spy during the war and Madison had to probably make plenty of deals to get any work done in the cabinet

[@jem4830]

Though Jefferson did write a condemnation of the Atlantic Slave trade in the Declaration of Independence, he also owned over 600 slaves himself. Although he supported the eventual abolition of slavery, he believed that first the nation needed to both provide an alternative source of income for slaveowners and “teach” all slaves how to be respectable American citizens. Compared to many other Southerners he was somewhat progressive in this regard, but next to Hamilton and Laurens, his views were quite conservative.

[@rareseeker]

I really think take a break-say no to this should be in one video and the room where it happens should be its own video because it's AMAZING

[@azul_trejo12]

I was gonna tell you the connection between the characters the actors play in act 1 vs the ones in act 2, but I would need to tell you spoilers from the next songs and we don't want that 😅

[@amylowery1829]

The diuretic remark is referring to the fact that Hamilton believes that if we borrow money and it is “pouring “ through our economy, we will become a profitable nation much more quickly than struggling on our on.

[@jcompton8507]

It's probably important to remember that this was before Germ Theory, and illnesses were treated with blood-letting and diuretics to clear the bodies of "bad humors." Knowing today how important hydration is, it's amazing anyone survived illness and injury back then...

[@amylowery1829]

@@jcompton8507 excellent point!

[@jcompton8507]

You have to remember that Jefferson ended up being really good friends with Lafayette as well. And when Lafayette was invited by Congress for a Grand Tour of the US in 1824 (for the nation's 50th birthday celebration), Lafayette made a point to visit the aging Jefferson. (And to lecture him about preaching "all men are created equal" but still doing nothing about slavery. The visit almost didn't end on good terms.) Also of note, Angelica also became good friends with Jefferson while they were both in France. They wrote to each other for the rest of their lives. This is why Lin had her say "and when I meet Thomas Jefferson, I will compel him to include women in the sequel" in The Schuyler Sisters. It's also why she offers Hamilton advice on Jefferson in a letter later in Act 2. She knows Jefferson well enough to be able to advise Alexander on what Jefferson will think and do.

[@brianreising3293]

This man apologizing for giving me 20 minutes of Hamilton content.

[@Kangakool]

When he said “financial diuretic” he meant that there should be a constant flow of moving money. The visual is gross, but that’s what he means.

[@Eveyarts]

One connection is in the beginning “we fought with him” Lafayette fought in the war with him and Jefferson would argue with him at any chance

[@IamOverfloww]

when they say "we fought with him" in the begining of the play its the actors of both madison and jesfferson and lafayette and mulligan when they say lafayette mulligan fought with him they mean along side him but when thomas and james say it it means they fought against him

[@canvasjockey4628]

Financial Diuretic is clever phrasing... a diuretic basically helps helps a system flow smoothly and unobstructed. I took the "What'd I Miss" line as Jefferson just being cheeky. I assume he would have had an idea of what he'd missed.

[@tavarisp452]

Not sure if you caught that the cabinet meeting battle mics are in the same case as the dueling pistols. Because they’re dueling but with words. This play is awesome on so many levels

[@pink_alligator]

something I like about stage plays which comes naturally when they follow a basic rule and they're so good at this bcs unlike any other medium in a stage play you want to cut anything excess out so *anything you put on stage must serve a point* and that coupled with that anytime you're on stage you should act exactly the same and as much regardless of where the spotlight is, and it's following these simple rules which make for SO many amazing moments and details and makes it extremely rewatchable (the guy who plays Jefferson is an absolute MASTER at this)

[@stephaniehundley6792]

Please don’t apologize for longer videos, I personally love when you take time to go over things, I think it’s an important part of the reactions!

[@idksomerandomguyontheinter2875]

Thomas Jefferson is my favorite character in the musical he's just great

[@disableddragonborn]

I recently read some of the letters between Alexander and Vice President Burr leading up to the duel, and Alex was even more incapable of subtlety than even Lin depicted. He was cartoonishly overt and blunt. 😆

[@saiyasha848]

About the throughlines of the Characters, in the very first song "Alexander Hamilton" the Characters state their realtionship to Hamilton. They do it as both Characters they play, so if you listen to that again, it can give you an Idea

[@felinefancy9233]

Actually, a semi Cabinet Meeting did in fact happen. Before President Obama left office, the cast of Hamilton was invited to perform in the East Wing. You can find those videos here on KZbin, but there is a spoken version of this song from the White House

[@DylanSargesson]

10:16 There is a longer original workshop/off-Broadway version of this song wherein Burr has a verse telling Jefferson more about Hamilton and his financial plans, but it was cut for the Broadway version. Also 15:50 There's a third Cabinet Battle Song that goes into the debate of the legality of Slavery more explicitly, but that was also cut

[@cashy8943]

Fun fact: The backing track for Cabinet Battle #1 features a reference to the Ten Duel Commandments count-up theme, as a nod to Hamilton's first 'duel'. Also I believe Hamilton say 'financial diuretic' because it promotes flows (within capita rather than bodily fluids)

[@maryroseadlao802]

I am getting through everyday thinking any moment you will drop another hamilton reaction

[@YoBGS]

Haha I'm glad to help but they're usually at about twice a week at this point. I don't wanna post too fast bc I have no idea what to do when this ends

[@hollyannparker4445]

ngl Thomas is my favourite Hamilton character, just because it’s funny to watch how he and Hamilton try to bite each other to the death all the time

[@avamarie3438]

I love these videos so much. Earlier today I got to watch Hamilton live in Vancouver BC, Canada and it was incredible. If you ever get the change to go, GO!! It was flawless.

[@joseph.westbury]

In the first song you get some foreshadowing with the 2 roles people play. I don't wanna say what because it's spoilers, but it's really smart

[@jaywriter1281]

if you remember when Jefferson asked for Sally to come over in "What did I Miss", they actually have an interesting documentary about the two. look up Jefferson and Sally. I'd love to see what you think of it.😄

[@YoBGS]

Jefferson and Sally, eh? Hmmmmmm may need to check this out!

[@jcompton8507]

Jefferson was in France when the Constitution was written. It was written mostly by Madison. But the list of the most prominent contributors include: the Committee of Detail, which included Oliver Ellsworth, Nathaniel Gorham, Edmund Randolph, John Rutledge, and James Wilson; and those on the Committee of Style, which included Alexander Hamilton, William Johnson, Rufus King, and Gouverneur Morris. Other notable delegates included Benjamin Franklin and George Washington. And of course, other members of the Constitutional Convention played roles. And John Adams deserves credit, too, because the Constitution that he had just written for Massachusetts and his essay, Thoughts on Government, were also greatly influential. But Jefferson was out of the country, and he really was "partying it up" in France. He was living so far out of his means that he went into crazy personal debt while he was there trying to pretend he was on par with the French Aristocracy. So when Jefferson came back, he went mum on the topic of abolition of slavery because he desperately needed the free labor to keep from going under.

[@jcompton8507]

As for the debt in the Northern States, well...they bore the biggest burden of the war. Don't forget that the majority of the fighting in the North. So the North contributed more men to the army. This meant that while the South still had their enslaved people farming away, the Northern white farmers had spent months out of the year away from their farms. And those that flourished most likely helped feed the armies - both the Continental Army and the British (whether willingly or unwillingly). Also, many of the rich Northerners (including Philip Schuyler) were personally financing the Army when Congress wasn't sending the funds that Washington and Hamilton et al. were begging for. (This isn't to say that rich Southerners weren't also helping. Washington and John Lauren's father, Henry, and others dedicated a lot of their personal wealth to help the Army. But more of the burden still fell on the North.) So I'm on Hamilton's side and think the South kinda owed the North at least *some* financial assistance...

[@jcompton8507]

It's also important to point out some of the political power struggles that were going on at this point in US history. Firstly, one of the things that had Jefferson and Madison so defensive at this time is that they were afraid that were losing popularity to the "War Heroes." For all of his brilliance, Madison had been too sickly to join the Army. And Jefferson reputation was tainted by the fact that, even though he was Governor when the British attacked Virginia, he fled and hid... (because supposedly there was a plan to capture Jefferson). Afterwards the VA Congress conducted an inquiry into Jefferson's actions. They decided he acted "honorably," but he wasn't re-elected. So neither of them were thought of as very "brave" in comparison to Washington and Hamilton and Knox and the men who had fought and bled and "resorted to eating their horses" while the others were still "living it up in style." And to add to it, the war vets had started a hoity-toity club for themselves, called the Society of the Cincinnati, in 1783. Because it was intended to be a fraternal, hereditary society only for those descended from veterans of the American Revolution, Jefferson and Madison were afraid that they would become too politically powerful, and that it would become a feeder system (and eventually nepotism) into the most politically powerful positions on every level of government. So Jefferson and Madison did everything they could to bad mouth the Society, hyperbolizing its potential to make the young US government a new version of a hereditary monarchy. Their efforts worked, and 4 out of the first 5 presidents (and 7 of the first 12) were from the South.

[@wuttatota148]

@@jcompton8507 If you put it like that, then they seem like quite the petty people

[@jcompton8507]

@@wuttatota148 Definitely! But really, they weren't very different than people and politicians today.

[@chadoakley8505]

The microphones come from the same case as the dueling pistols...

[@ughriley-9538]

The cabinet battles are my favorites, I’m so happy you watched them!

[@joseph.westbury]

Cabinet battle is so cool! It would be amazing if this was how we actually made decisions lol

[@jcompton8507]

It definitely would make C-Span more interesting to watch. Though...some debates ridiculously theatrical even without the rap battles...

[@r4cc00n_v4bez]

For the 100k subscriber special, you should do helpless or satisfied ;)

[@disableddragonborn]

Hamilton's unwillingness to compromise or admit fault is ultimately what brought him to Weehawken that July day.

[@kev121]

I love that you ask certain questions that are answered either later in the song or in the next song. Patience my friend 😂🤣😂

[@ThAlEdison]

6:37 One line reference to Sally Hemmings en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Hemings

[@stylaxlwh]

Lafayette and Jefferson are both played by Daveed Diggs because at the start Burr says fought with him (referring to Hamilton) while the spotlight was on Oak and Daveed because they fought against him and with him.

[@jonathanchan7896]

I like how the audience cheers when Jefferson reveals himself. It’s as if they are the American citizens cheering on his return.

[@HuffGLaDTem]

one of my favorite parts. i was singing along the entire of the 2 songs! i have them memorized

[@jesuschristbutafab9923]

For some reason the part from What'd I Miss, the one that goes "Head first, into the abyss!" has been repeating in my head for the past week...Jefferson has infected my brain lol

[@amandasargent5829]

Thomas Jefferson and Lafayette both “fought with him” (Hamilton) - one against and one alongside, so it’s a play on words from the first song of the play. A diuretic helps one pee, so it gets things moving, removes blockages.

[@totalrando3156]

A diuretic creates flow

[@lxoSVUEditZz]

BRO STOP PARTYING had me rolling great vid man keep it up

[@amylowery1829]

There is another Hamilton cd called the Hamilton mix tapes. It is excellent and contains rap battle #3.