The ABANDONED digger John Deere Backhoe Is IMPOSSIBLE To FIX!

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

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[@MOON_KID]

If Wiley was there it would have worked

[@MrPNutt]

Hank, If the circuit for reverse functions and you know which solenoid engages forward, swap the wiring and verify that forward is mechanically functioning. If it will engage and move forward, you’ll know for an absolute fact that it’s electrical. Not to restate the obvious, but the exposed wiring will continue to be a problem, even after the repairs are made. All else fails, call the local dealer and get a service tech to check it out. They have all the equipment to test and verify issues. May be expensive, but time isn’t free, even if it’s your own.They may even have a TC that would talk you through a couple of tests and checks in lieu of sending a field tech. Stay safe and keep up the good work!

[@alilee505]

Theres just 1 guy, a humble fella, comes from up north, I swear he has the attitude to fix a can bus fault on the space shuttle! We know him simply as Wes.

[@varoonsingh1111]

Exciting stuff ! You're very close to the solution so don't loose heart or faith ! Keep at it ! Current flowing through the right coils/solenoids should shift the forward valve. Maybe jackup the tractor so just the tires will spin while you try energizing different coils with a power probe or something external.

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

Good idea

[@chrissheathewoodguy]

ok, let me help you out. the solenoid is nothing more then a magnet. when constant power is applied it will pull up a rod that engages the trans. so first you need to insure the solenoid is working. you can do that buy fixing the wire and then pull the cover off and take out the new part. pug it in. then turn the switch on to drive. check the solenoid with a metal object(screw driver). if it holds it then your issue is the rod in the trans. soak the shaft and try using a strong magnet to pull the shaft up and down till it's freed up. if a machine sits for some time moister can cause some rust. once its free just use some oil in the shaft hole to get it lubricated. you might have to soak the rod with penitrating oil for a few days.

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

Thanks for taking the time to watch and make the comment. I truly appreciate it! Have a good day.

[@drifter1949]

G'day Hank, don't know if you have a multimeter or not but you can pick one up fairly cheap. You can measure the resistance of those solenoids without removing them and compare the reading of the suspect one with the others. Also you can measure the voltage on those bare wires when you shift the levers or switches. Cheers from Robbo

[@lordmetal3842]

Check the vent on top of the transmission. You can see it from the left side of the engine compartment looking back towards the transmission (looking over top of the starter). Make sure that is clear. The 3 solenoids on the top left of the transmission are for the MFWD (if used), Diff lock and the Park Brake. The transmission control solenoids are under the top cover of the transmission control valve which is mounted on the top backside of the transmission. Seldom do those solenoids go bad (not to say they don't go bad sometimes). Most likely you have an FNR shifter problem. That was a common problem with those machines. You want to have it tested to be sure, they are expensive. If the shifter is OK then you may need to get your dealer to check amps at the fuse box for the transmission circuit to verify it is doing what it needs to be doing electrically. You would also have to have pressures checked to check mechanical function.

[@mchl8]

Hey hank I have been following this series, I can't belive this has been in the works now for a yr . Wow You have to correct the wire issue Then you can double check the location of those solenoids. You can kind use a phone or a computer for a book. Just download the pdf for whatever needed. Just a thought

[@brandonray2644]

What about when you towed on the trailer what did u do under the tractor to make it move? Idk if that will help

[@garymessina1609]

Hank in my experience I have have found that the round cable connector goes bad before the solenoid change the complete cable

[@eddygoodwin7089]

Yes sir good call

[@TheIronDuke502]

Hank, We had quite a few of the John Deere backhoes and I don’t recall ever seeing your issue with any of the other JD backhoes that was in our fleet. I would try to get a replacement pigtail where you would have a better plug and wiring to work with. I’m kind of curious how the older model JD backhoes were configured compared to the G that you have as far as the forward reverse shift. That machine is definitely worth the money that it would take to get it repaired. Personally I think that the newer equipment has too much electronic garbage to screw up.

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

👍

[@charlesjessehollandsworth1872]

Check and clean all of your ground wires shout out from Missouri

[@amossnowdaharleyman9179]

Thanks for the heart on my wiring harness comment. Over the years I worked on too many old "junk" tractors backhoes and dozers to remember. On some the harness was dirt cheap. Others were fairly expensive. But having a good harness saved me soooo many hours on trouble shooting: especially on "newer" junk I bought to fix and flip or use. Have also done simple wire replacement to harness's with just a little damage,usually mice or overheated wires.Worse I saw was on a JD 450J dozer at a local JD construction shop. They had the cab off and every pirce of sheetmetal removed. What's up with that I asked. Tech said they had a dead short that killed the dozer.$10,000.00+ parts and labor repair:for mouse damage.

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

Wow!

[@amossnowdaharleyman9179]

@@HamiltonvilleFarm that's what I said too,Not my dozer either.

[@dans_Learning_Curve]

I would love do get my grubby hands on that machine! Wiring diagram. Follow the circuit for forward and reverse. Maybe two solenoids need to be powered to go forward?

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

good point. I'm not sure

[@madtater5948]

take an ohm meter and read the ohms on your new solenoid compare the ohms value on the other two solenoids they should all be the same or close to it also pull the other two solenoids and make sure the portholes are not clogged

[@Fatamus]

Just start carrying an Ol' can of 30w Delo around with you and something like it will follow you home sooner or later. How do you think they come up with so many Ol' rigs lounging in fields .... I bet a wooden nickel they have "Big'n" pack a 55 gallon drum of 30w around to stir them out the weeds.

[@michaelguinn5736]

Hank!! God Bless you, Wes & your channel!!!

[@r.l.1891]

Have you checked on getting a replacement pigtail?

[@danburfot334]

Looks to me like a simple micro switch on the forward lever has failed, thus not sending a signal to,the changeover solenoid. Have you had the steering column apart to check for this?

[@tonygough8713]

Don’t give up Hank, I’m pulling for ya buddy.

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

Thanks Tony!

[@raulmarceloechenique]

siempre estamos viendo los grandes trabajo todo lo que uno mira sirve y aprende un asiendo grande nunca es tarde me gustó Marcelo de argentina un abrazo

[@richardmixon2340]

Looked back through the comments is there a linkage(solid metal or a cable linkage) on the shuttle shift that may need an adjustment.

[@chromedome1120]

Is it possibly in the auto shift on the steering column ? Electrical is always a nightmare! Keep your head up Hank ! A few HOWBOUTCHA’S may help !

[@25slider]

Thanks Hank it's now Nov I hope you got it running I dont know much about big equipment but I love watching your videos thanks again and good luck

[@shaneganske6212]

Hank, did you check the Directional Drive switch to the left of the steering column? Is the FWD direction feeding power out (to your solenoids) there just like the REV direction does? The contacts could be bad there. Good luck. Shane

[@darylwalford8697]

Hi Hank, did you test the solenoids? They look like they each have 2 wires, power and ground so should be easy to test. Also could it just be the forward reverse switch on the steering column, has that been tested? JD certainly don't help to reconnect the wires when all they look to all be the same color, good luck with it.

[@nickdial8610]

Hello Hank! I ordered parts from them Pretty good company Never had a problem with them Or the parts always fit and worked Have a good one 👍

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

Thanks for the info!

[@paulatkinson2849]

Keep at it u will get there its a problem to be overcome patience and good luck with it 🤞

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

Thanks

[@paulbales3513]

You're going to get it have faith and patience

[@MontsFamilyHomestead]

Hank, electronic trans are not just a quick lots of times. There still could be a fluid passage issue or even pressure problems to the packs. You will figure it our with you tech guy. God Bless.

[@ralphriddle8864]

Wire problem and good job and God bless yall 🙏

[@oneteaminbristolbcfc]

Keep the faith Hank!!! Get old Wiley over there he’s got the touch ✌️❤️

[@garyfeltus9801]

Maybe it's in your forward and reverse leaver on steaing calom just an idea. Because I really don't know. You will get it fixed I have faith in you Hank.

[@henryoppermann134]

Taking a solenoid out, I would check the resistance (in ohms)of the one removed, and the one put in new. Are they the same? If so, then send the new one back. In the electrical trade we call this a poke and hope strategy, by not getting the manual and just throwing good money to bad. Work the logic. It Biggin has a logic, then as a troubleshooter, there has to be a process of elimination. Swapping solenoids is a great idea if they measure the same in their respective resistances. At least it keeps moving thru a process. Document what you find as you go along. Check each device, chase the wire, insure all cut wires from where they come and go, and document that and see what aligns to the forward operation. Good luck….

[@mrrandy170]

Have a friend with the same problem. Checked FNR switch at the column. You can unplug the switch without removing it. The wires are labeled ABCD at the plug from the switch. His contacts were good. Checked it at the plug to the Solenoid it too is lanes. Had 12 volts on both F. And R. Solenoid was rebuilt. Still the same problem. The single solenoid is to pause pulling when button is pushed. Didn’t rebuild that one. Was told the clutches could be messed up or the pump in reversal unit could be bad. No luck here either! Hope you find the problem!

[@patwatson2454]

The one I had started not moving it was the lever for the parking brake I took it out ran a wire connecting the two it worked perfect

[@robertforget6369]

keep at it you'll get it hank should be great and useful machine when its going God bless

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

Thanks!

[@danswartwood4580]

Yes, thanks for sharing Hank

[@super6954]

Well you tried, I'd say as a guy that fixes farm equipment for a living. Anything more modern like this get the manual before you start whether it's a paper copy or good quality cd. If a guy brings me a tractor with transmission issues I'm not touching it without reading first. I've read some manuals and walked away, I've got one here for a tractors like a phone book for just the transmission! That parts cannon or diagnostic time lost over something stupid thats in the book in a diagnostic flow chart could pay for the book, against a day and gain nothing or where you are at now. somewhere on that transmission there is going to be test ports for pressures and things if you guess getting the electrics right and it still don't work, you'll need to figure that out as well. Hope you've already fixed it, thanks for sharing the adventure. Take care.

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

Thanks!

[@AndrewHCann]

Excellent video Hank :) also big puzzle for sure and got be something someone knows going on and how fix up 310 John Deere also plus be recall on fix them ! Lots vechiles get recalls and get fix right also never happened again sometimes so John Deere tractor got be in wireing hook or computer issues! I still figure out and talk to John Deere Dealership near and told get back what going for you on it ! Hopefully get some help and answers to soon!

[@joeblan9426]

Went back to the first video all the way to the last one. Each video you had a lot of great help! But here is where you need a fine Technician. Start asking some construction managers who they use, someone sharp around you if possible! If you can't find anyone begin looking on KZbin creators and ask for help! The one KZbinr that sticks out in my mind is Ivan at Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics. He works on more than Autos. He also makes trips to Florida . I believe he has Family there and he works on people's cars on his way .You might give him a call. He has a sharp analytical mind. Watch some of his Videos other than the ones on autos. Use him as a last resort though ,I think. GOD Bless ,will be praying for a fix on your tractor! By the way if you manage to get him ,You and him together would definitely make a Great Video!

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

I appreciate that Joe

[@4211welderman]

Have you checked the reverser fluid for fibers? I know you have a lot of wiring problems but if the forward clutch pack is burnt it won’t ever move. Just a thought

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

Thanks

[@richardbeach8632]

Did you check the air in the tires ?

[@donaldelrod9172]

the slot in the top of the new one seems out about 10 or so degrees from the others. the one you removed was more closely aligned. does this have to align with electrical contacts in the cover? do you have the electrical schematic for that machine?

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

No sir. The clip just plugs in

[@barryhayes3328]

I always watch to the end !!!! Hopefully you get it sorted soon

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

👍 thank you

[@jjacres129]

It’s so hard sometimes I want to tell you how to do it but then I remember this video isn’t live haha but you normally figure it out way to go Hank

[@jamierushing8811]

Hi hank from west Alabama love ya

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

:) Howboutcha!

[@jamierushing8811]

@@HamiltonvilleFarm nothing much and y’all

[@russellbrown1376]

I really believe you don't know what you are doing you surely are not a mechanic dude but I admire your bravery

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

You think? I literally only say that in every video.

[@heatherbrown2761]

It is from the movie Airplane! =) Gotta love that auto pilot too lol

[@toddcrosley8099]

When I'm working on something like that I'll take a zip tie and pull them hoses off to the side. I'll be using a meter from the wires from your shuttle shifter all the way down to the solenoids.

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

Good idea

[@jimg8218]

Good thing you have óther tools, that definitely not a crescent wrench job 😀

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

You got that right! LOL

[@naseefnasserazan8859]

I love when you do videos it gives me joy

[@brandonbayles9879]

Hank I would start at the reverser lever and make sure that when you move it up to go forward that everything from that point is making contact to send a signal to the solenoid Something may not be making correct contact for the forward operation to energize the solenoid.

[@noonerstrickland1743]

With that 310, you remind me of a character from Gilligan’s Island named Wrongway Feldon. BTW, I know you’re happy to have that greenhouse fully moved and rebuilt.

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

lol.

[@diggermike4298]

You check the contacts on the coulomb shifter leaver

[@davida.p.9911]

Surely there's got to be some John Deere techs watching. Lol. What about safety switches like a neutral switch that maybe is grounding out preventing it from going forward .❓❓❓ When you shift it into forward, a command is sent from the computer to engage the transmission....something is interfering with that signal. In the old days, these were all mechanical, but in this machine I figure the shift lever is just a switch. I would follow from the shift lever back to the switch that engages the transmission, right before the solenoid that you just replaced.....in other words, what is between the shift lever and the solenoid, because now we know it's not the solenoid obviously. Anyway, that's my advice. 😊 Keep us posted Hank! Good luck!

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

Thanks!

[@plainwornout3964]

Is there a connector to hook up an analyzer?

[@Adventures_with_Josh]

I'd say get a good wiring diagram and start chasing out all the wires for the f/r lever. See if there power at the right solenoid at the right time.

[@mischef18]

I would almost pay money to see you solder with a crescent wrench bro. Wes is really good at sorting wires out, just a thought. Safe travels up your way

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

Yeah I may need to call him

[@dans_Learning_Curve]

@@HamiltonvilleFarm yep, WWW would figure that unit out!

[@chrise.2495]

@@HamiltonvilleFarm yes please. I like wes very much.

[@edpoints1127]

@@HamiltonvilleFarm that would truly be an epic video... Wes don't give up. I firmly believe stuff like that keeps him up at night!

[@darynhammons4981]

I would say get Bigin back over thare and sort out that wiring for you maybe even replace that section of harness. Also im thinking the solinoids you were working on are forword nautral and reverse i would think forward would be on the left if your sitting in the seat i would think thats the one you should have changed i could be wrong not sure thats ware you really need a service manual. one more thing i noticed is your prongs on top were facing a little different i think you should line it up exactly like it was when you took it out it might make a differance. hope this helps hank thats just my two cents.

[@danmackintosh6325]

October? It's the middle of November Hank! lol hope you've got it fixed by now at least, almost time for another update on the thing! Stay well dude, best wishes from the UK

[@kevinisaac9139]

At least you tried Hank 👍

[@Bodhranarama]

Must be frustrating Hank. Sorry can't offer you any advice but thanks for posting.

[@HuserHelpers]

Any update Hank? If you could put a meter on the wires, do you see a signal for forward when you select forward? With all those wires cut, you might be able to figure out which ones are forward and reverse solenoid wires.

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

Nothing yet thanks Buddy👍

[@robertreisner6119]

This makes me feel better that I have operational JD-450 1979 track loader with the JD-9300 1979 backhoe and a JD-550 1980 bull dozer. Both work well, very little issues and easier to fix. I'm in south central Alaska.

[@scottlambert2949]

Hank my guess is that you might need to call the nearest john Deere dealer and see if they have the original owner's manual for it and look up the trouble shooting guide maybe this will help you

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

Yeah I’m sure you’re right

[@richardcline1337]

@@HamiltonvilleFarm, I think the closest John Deere dealer to you is on Hwy 231 just south of Hwy 390.

[@jakealter5504]

@@HamiltonvilleFarm I’ve had to do that for some of my dad’s machines (including our own backhoe)

[@benoitverbiest1090]

Did you already try to do a reset of your electronics? On my older machinery and cars ( 2000-2010) it was easely done by holding the positive and negative cable from the battery for a couple of minutes. Of course after you have disconnected them from the battery!!!! Maybe it will help or maybe not, but it will cost you anything to try.

[@martineastburn3679]

Is the lever on the right - motion control and it relies on the solenoid to change directions ? If it is in neutral no move. It was in gear (some) to go backwards. Full of Transmission fluid ? maybe a simple. Good luck.

[@zacattack8795]

Love this video buddy and hope you are having a good day ❤

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

Thanks much Zac!

[@terrymangum7635]

Enjoyed the video Hank. I would love to help you with this but it is way above my pay grade.

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

Lol…mine too 😁

[@stevehull1628]

If it's like my brothers 410, the parking brake button on the right side fender might be messed up. His did the same thing. Go in reverse but not forward.

[@edneialmeida7612]

Boa noite muito top serviço da máquina meu amigo

[@acox3527]

Could have something to do with the cut wires something or a wire not getting proper contact maybe get a new or used wiring harness or pigtail connection 👍👍

[@saltykyle5603]

Are you guys close to tampa? I'm in Lithia Pinecrest

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

Not that close.

[@fallingtimbernick9735]

Keep faith in it y'all will fix it

[@beerman5587]

I live 30 minutes from Gettysburg Lee here

[@extremegaming2280]

Hi Hank. I know that you began this journey by replacing the ECU module on the backhoe because the original one was damaged. I also saw in one of the first videos on this machine that you replaced all of the fuses. I’m trying to think what could be causing the tractor to only move backwards but not forwards. Remember when you first got the backhoe to run under its own power, Josey ran a hot wire to the ECU to get the proper voltage to the system but then the backhoe thought that someone was trying to steal it so it wouldn’t move. I also remember that when you found this machine in the woods the fuse panel was exposed to the weather. Do you remember the reasoning why this backhoe was abandoned originally? You said in the 1st video of this series that it just quit and that’s where it sat for all those years until you got in on the trailer and back to your place. Let me know what you think.

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

I haven’t checked the ECU, since it cranks up and all the fuses are good. But I’m sure there is a electric problem somewhere

[@richardmixon2340]

Hey Hank when you and "big un" were testing the solenoids why didn't yall swap solenoids to see if it would go into forward, jus sayin. Love the channel. Your neighbor in Grand Ridge Fl.

[@retroescavadeiraaoextremo9743]

Salve salve meu amigo. Deu trabalho em .excelente vídeo. Parabéns. TMJ Deus te abençoe sempre. 🇧🇷

[@robertsimmons5575]

I was wondering how it was going with your tractor .do not give up sooner or later it will work

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

Thanks!

[@yardsausage]

hank, is there any kind of trouble shooting tutorial on the problem ..maybe john deeres website or something?

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

I've seen some that don't exactly replicate my problem.

[@jerryshelton1481]

Those wire inside that goes from plug to the solenoids look oil soaked I know certain diesels have wiring harnesses that have to be changed because of oil could possibly be that

[@phillipdickinson8557]

Great video loved it can't wait for next one thank you for sharing and your time really good Sorry I can't figure it either maybe Gina can figure it out lol she is good and I have one

[@dougackerman4182]

Don’t give up Hank

[@juanmartinezmbapmppmiacp2104]

Your patience is unbelievable because I would have used the parts that work, the backhoe and the reverse gear, to dig a hole and drive it in reverse to its own burial. :)

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

Lol. It’s about to that point

[@douglascole3842]

Why do the reverse solenoid if it will go in reverse? Maybe the forward solenoid?

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

The technical name for the solenoids are “reverser solenoids” ..forward or backwards

[@keithvogelgesang7845]

I'm a John Deere tech. I'll look up that issue and see what the common repairs on it are

[@just_inolredneck8319]

Here we go!!! We got a guy that can help!!

[@jefferykirk2322]

What was the first major problem, I don't think there is a problem with the trans your not getting a the amps to run the switch 🤔

[@noelwarner1235]

Quote there's always one thing in the way, you got that right brother and then you drop a tool down inside the frame. I feel for you brother been there and done that too many times I agree you need a wiring diagram or someone who is a deer mechanic

[@justinstafford4627]

One tech said to check your ground connections and make sour your battery is strong said it will have enough power to crank the backhoe but not enough power current to make all silanoieds work only one but not all of them in hard to explain but the but make they said make sour you got a good ground connection to the silanoieds

[@00nutt]

Is there a theory of operation manual? That would greatly help if they do!

[@ARBlessedLife]

Hello Sir, I will always watch 100% of your video 😎 I sure hope you figure out what it is, I know that's aggravating...have a great day 💖

[@stuartkarshagen6274]

Dang I don't have any comment to help fix it, but keep persevering,I'm sure you will get it running. If not, get Whiley to scrap it 🤣🤙🏻

[@chriscampbell2327]

You can download the service repair manual pdf from John Deere for $20.00.

[@THEVOIDONTT]

Hello

[@arthurbiringer5676]

You should have put a bit of oil on the new solenoid to assure that it went in easily.

[@garysmith5434]

Hi Hank

[@taskinyucekurt]

I guess only thing you didn't check is that selector on the steering column. When you switch it to back it works, so maybe contacts in it doesn't work or broken for forward or wiring is the problem. Pull that shifter out and check it with multimeter for continuity (a test light would be more helpful too cuz then you can see if signal goes to there or not) and make sure it is working at 1st place. Always start with simple ones first, KISS rule mostly works well smiles. Chase that circuit from column to the selenoids. Backward works cuz selector says "work" to that selenoid, but forward is not so your problem is there somewhere inbetween, obviously hydraulic circuit works fine cuz you are able to ride it backwards. Probably you will solve this puzzle in very short time :)

[@HeritageFarmsTexas]

Hang in there. Where there is a will, there is a way.

[@robertrousseau5264]

One thing I don't think you checked and maybe I'm wrong check the switches up on the column to see if they are turning on and off like they're supposed to be it was a filter in the bottom of transmission that was all filled up with metal filings as soon as I was cleaning out they would run all the who's my fine okay and that's what I worked on was not John Deere 310 this is far from Vero Beach Florida God bless have a great day and happy holidays

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

Thanks Robert

[@jamesdaley3873]

Did you test all the solenoid you might have replace the wrong one

[@bobbyhernandez2415]

Patience is definitely your friend……..and we’re all pulling for ya……maybe the tires are inflated correctly?……idk…..or the flux capacitor is not letting the brake fluid run to the rear bucket.🤷🏻‍♂️

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

Lol