Cleveland bucket wheel trencher sitting 50 years - WILL it START?

[@dieseJL]

Anyone ever run one of these before?

[@masterful7574]

Lots of people have.

[@morgansword]

Although not seen on a lot of areas, I heard about them being a go to tool for digging trenches when they did small irrigation systems in eastern washington state. I am seventy five an have seen many different types of ditch witches that challenged the rocky soils to do just what this one was designed to do

[@dmk1529]

Yep

[@voidfaux]

I have 5 Cleveland wheel ditches where i work, we have a model 95 and multiple model 247's, but your Buda is way older than mine, our company has ditched close to 50,000 miles with those machines.

[@johnweis2855]

Bet you installed distributor on e tooth off. Pull distributor or move wires on cap.

[@JLange642]

I just can't describe the feeling I get when I hear a engine fire back to life after X number of years. It just makes me smile! Thank you for your diligence and good luck!

[@dieseJL]

Thanks for watching!!

[@MrSychnant]

I couldnt decribe the feeling I got when he had the distributoor in the vice and attempted to "fix"? it with that huge screwdriver.

[@kens2328]

I could listen to these two lightly bust each other’s chops all day.

[@DamonAbbott-ur3lf]

You and your DAD are the perfect picture of a father and son relationship. I myself never knew my dad but I broke the cycle and have tried my best to be a dad like you Sr.

[@mean78mashine]

It looks like you and your dad have the best relationship. And it really is true when they say that machines were built better back in the old days. Respect to you who fix machines like the one you are working on.

[@fourbyfourer]

Your Dad is a real cool guy!! He is so down to earth and easy going.

[@dieseJL]

Yeah!

[@electronixTech]

I was thinking the same. His Dad is a really nice guy.

[@alanschroeder3049]

Just ran on to your page. Im 61 and i luv seeing the old stuff getting worked on. Always make memories with your dad because one day hes not going to be around

[@dieseJL]

yeah, we have fun with this stuff it has been great

[@jaredmead7391]

or vice versa. my father had to go through loosing a son.

[@archangel729]

Definitely want to see this trencher work . Even better full time use . If not possible then in a museum where it can be seen and teach kids machines of the past .

[@johnvaluk1401]

Nice getting it running. Old girlfriend actually worked for Cleveland trencher in the 80’s

[@jimmysurfed]

I think it's really cool that as time has gone on with your videos that you and your dad are more and more connected on these projects.

[@Hexauslion]

i was genuinely happy to see it run. reminded me of the time i was stuck in Minnesota reviving a dodge 360 engine from the 70's on a rv that was half sunk in the sand and snow on the side of a mountain. everything that was a moving part had to be worked on. what didn't need to be repaired from age was the question indeed! it was such a treat to get it finally running and driving again. sounded like a racecar when i was done and drove that 1000 miles home. it was a real adventure repairing it on the go and all the way home. good job you two. thank you for the happy memories.

[@TorqueNation-Auto]

Amazing ! This is one of the last great KZbin channels. No horseshit, no rubbish, just great content.

[@dieseJL]

Thanks for the support!

[@terrypenningtonenterprises5495]

That's awesome guys love see old stuff running again

[@anotherbody2]

Nice video, you and your dad have a nice relationship, like the humor and your reasoning. I can tell that you both know what your doing....It reminds of a close friend for many years and his dad, they too love all kinds of machines, mostly cars.

[@jbshascommon4687]

Was a pleasure to see the bond in your family and your tenacity to get the job done. A true pleasure to watch. Keep that old iron running!!

[@stevebloke5455]

Great job!! Get some sump oil and start soaking everything the sooner the better it will help when it comes time to get other bits moving. And throw a tarp over it to keep the rain out. Looking forward to the next installment thanks for posting.

[@kirk467]

Looks like a bush so far Tyler! lol 🤣😂🤣 Might take a hour to get it out! 🤣😂🤣 That vine might take a chainsaw to get it off!WOW 😮 Nobody was going to steat it, nobody could find it Tyler, it definitely was safe there! I see now, it’s on tracks like a crawler! Makes me feel old, 77 I was 17 years old getting ready to graduate high school! I can’t wait to hear it run again!

[@dieseJL]

I think my dad was 19

[@kirk467]

@@dieseJL looks like your dad and I are ole timers! Lol 🤣😂🤣, we’ve seen a lot changes throughout the years! I like watching people save this old equipment because it’s a piece of history! Next best thing is when it gets restored to working order! Just think years from now the people who will be able to enjoy the history of these old pieces of equipment! It’s fascinating! 👌🏻👍🏻👍🏻💯💯💯

[@royreynolds108]

I graduated HS in 1964 and college in 1969. We had a V4 Budda engine on our motor car on the Huckleberry RR. It was the fastest thing on the railroad. Nobody dared to hold it wide open. It was air-cooled.

[@mechanics4all405]

drive it out buddy,family heirloom,its a must❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@tymz-r-achangin]

Easily got my thumbs up! Cool project and even better seeing you and your dad working together like a team. Your dad seems like a pretty cool guy to hang around with.

[@dieseJL]

He is! Thanks for watching!

[@40beretta1]

It may just be me! The interaction between you and your Dad before you go head first into a project, is such a flashback to the interactions my brothers and I had with Dad. My Dad is still with us, but he's had some serious medical issues and is now wheelchair-bound. The two of you make me laugh out loud as you go at each other. Some of our back-in-forths could get spicy, yet we were family and always, sometimes to our detriment, listened to what Pops was saying. It can be hard reminiscing with my Dad about the crazy stuff we have our minds set on because he no longer can get in the field or woods, fix it, blow it up, or cut it down. DieseJL thank you and keep working with your Dad. I hope your Son has the opportunity to wrench with him as well as even my daughter did when she was old enough to push the break and clutch in...

[@dieseJL]

thanks! yeah we are making a ton of good memories...

[@JThuss1]

Yes, we would like to see it move out of the brush. Good job getting it to run👍🏻

[@matthewkesler1175]

Put your finger over or in the sparkplug hole for #1( careful,not too far) and turn it over til you feel compression. Then either via the timing marks or by something through the plug hole set it on TDC. Put your plug wires in or insert the distributor in so the rotor points at #1 on the cap,if so marked.Then arrange the rest of the wires in firing order with rotation. That'll get you in the ball park.Set timing by ear to where it runs best.On a 4 banger it can be set within a degree or two this way. Pretty easy,works great on old Farmalls this way as I take the distributor out to R&R points. Neat old trencher,it would be quite an attraction at an old iron show. Good to see you guys working on it together.

[@toddavis8603]

Nice logical succession of steps taken for this ol Cleveland engine resurrection.😂❤❤😮Congrats guys.

[@PriestmanCub]

WELL DONE GUYS, that was tremendous hard and Frustrating work, but you got it started, WELL DONE.

[@CJohnT]

Great video. Cherish quality time with your dad. Got to get it running and drive it out on its own power, maybe show us how the trencher works. Thanks!

[@Bazz24697]

Just stumbled across this post fantastic very interesting to see you get this very old peace of equipment going again love to see more Cheers from Australia 👍

[@brianayre8794]

Yes, keep it going. Drive it out would be great. Thanks for the hard work. O and pops is a hoot.😂

[@uiscebeatha9476]

Great opportunity to spend time with father and son, cherish these times! Great video, try to break her loose.

[@woodcox0171]

My grandfather was an engineer on b24s in Italy 1943-45, 450th Bomb Group 721st squadron. Glad I found your channel. @dieseJL

[@dieseJL]

I will ask and see what my grandpa was on. I know he was there and about the same timeframe.

[@russwabuda1556]

if you guys aren't the best, then i don't know who is. i look forward to your videos, thank you for making them

[@brianayre8794]

You have to keep Dad in the videos. His commentary is priceless! Has me laughing. 😂😂

[@dieseJL]

hahah yeah... he is a wild one

[@cliffordlogan7507]

I remember as a child watching a group of men run a machine like this one, however, it was much, much larger. They were running water to the neighbors. Our house was the last one on the line. It was so nice having running water in the house. I didn't realize how many memories this video would trigger.

[@RetrogradeThinker]

I remember watching home construction going on in my town when i was a kid. These were used around here for the water or sewer line trenches. I have always been fascinated with earth moving equipment and paving machines and such.

[@jasmeleg1484]

This is the first time I've landed on your videos. Love the way you chat with your dad. Reminds me of how my dad and I bicker a bit back and forth when working on projects. You can tell you trust his opinion but some stuff he can say just annoys you for no reason really. He's a character and hilarious to listen to. Pretty fun will it run and wish you guys the best!

[@dieseJL]

thanks for tuning in!

[@iantaylor9840]

Awesome job! Great work hunting down the parts and mixing and fixing your ignition & distributor. I've been messing with a 30yr BMW 650 single motorcycle which I've had for 10years, had the same model nearly 30years ago brand new. It's pretty rough, but got it running today for the first time on 12+ years. So I've had a very similar experience although not anywhere near as amazing as you guys. Great to see both you and your dad messing with stuff, not anything I had a chance to do! Great content as always, keep it coming. Looking forward to Ep. 2, thanks for your channel. All the best, Ian

[@dieseJL]

thanks for watching! good luck on the bike!

[@VintageGearMan]

I have always, always said the part I need is sitting on a shelf in a very, very old barn somewhere that I really need. Finding it is the hard part. I feel ya man.

[@Cg41418]

That must have been a blast getting that thing going…..esp with your Dad. Good Job!!!!

[@dieseJL]

Thanks!!

[@davidschweikhart459]

I used to work for a Gas Utility Company in Michigan. I worked as a Master Mechanic in the Garage. They had 2 Cleveland Trenchers. They did not use them a lot, but they did use them. Quite the trencher. Not too easy to use, but they did a good job digging. 👍👍 I might consider restoring it, if you had the time and ambition.

[@cadcad4974]

I watched the entire video don't leave us hanging. Get a new radiator, use a 12-volt battery, get Dad some black coffee, good night's sleep, and let's move that piece of family history back into the sun! 😃

[@CornelioManuel-lr3yj]

Ha ha ha😂😂😂😂 Amen

[@Builder99]

@@CornelioManuel-lr3yj get good gas

[@dieseJL]

yes!!

[@robleary3353]

Love seeing old bits of kit being rescued and given another go!. Please do a follow up clip on this old bit of kit!. 👍🍺

[@minbari001]

Interesting Machine! Sadly we don't normally find old iron like that here in the UK and Considering the Condition of some parts she didn't sound that bad when running, so yeah you got to get her Moving under her own power, and, dare i say it, Maybe Digging a Trench after all those years Asleep 😁❤

[@bradh5629]

loving your dads commentary, sounds just like my Dad with the uh oh's and what do we have here, that's a problem :)

[@joerodrigues3816]

It’s great how you and your dad do things together all the best to you guys

[@hokiedoo]

Great to see a new video ,it's like un-wrapping a Christmas present as a kid,LOL....GO LIONS ONE PRIDE!

[@dieseJL]

whew go tigers

[@hokiedoo]

@@dieseJL Lions, Tigers and definitely not the Bears Roar Detroit

[@mrfarmall-vk4gw]

Yeah we need to see this thing in action!👍👍

[@repairfreak]

You got me hooked into watching the whole video. Great job guys getting this old metal monster fired up. I’m subscribed to your channel now with bell notifications on, because I want to see you drive this machine out and then actually trench with it. This you must do for ALL of us viewers! I hope you get lucky and find a source for all the parts you may need, or repair some. Great video, thanks again guys! Hello from NW Indiana 😎👍

[@dieseJL]

Thanks for watching and you are not too far from us!

[@repairfreak]

@@dieseJL Hello, I wouldn’t doubt if there was some old machine like that sinking into the ground around here too. I’ve seen excavators left out in farm fields to rust over here. At 57 I’ve always had the desire “since a kid” to operate heavy machinery someday. I hear there’s a place out in Vegas where a person can. Best of luck again with the Trencher, would love to see it in action. I used to install Toro irrigation systems in the past. We had a Vameer will trenching arm on one end and a pipe puller on other end to pull in rolls of poly pipe. One would walk beside this machine while another spun the roll of pipe as it went into the ground, it worked great, only left narrow incisions in the persons lawn.

[@jarretpeart2833]

I ran a newer version of that regularly about 20 yrs ago. Digging under drains for new road construction. In the right kind of soil, ie. no rock, it was actually still viable compared to new stuff. We also used a big Vermeer chain style that would saw through anything, but I really liked that old Cleveland with the three transmissions. I remember having to stand on the one brake continuously to keep it going straight …

[@dieseJL]

thats amazing

[@tracygarcia2082]

definitely starter, gunna need one anyways no doubt, man this had me google lens the parts looking them up .. man this was fun .

[@David-wy9jl]

Family heirloom so definitely worth restoring. Looks like it was built like a tank.

[@dieseJL]

yeah man just leave her outside for 50 years she'll be ready to trench

[@kenniskanaal1828]

Great video I would love to see part 2. you and your father who making that machine. it is a part of your family history. I would cherish that. you can also use a separate fuel tank for clean fuel or a filter and some new bogies and cables

[@jamiejames5311]

Come on you gotta drive it out for your Dad All The Best 🇬🇧

[@billbrock5486]

I enjoyed watching the process of getting it going. never seen a trencher like this but I'd love to see it working again and digging a ditch

[@DKTractors]

Great video. You’ll have memories from this one for sure.

[@dieseJL]

indeed

[@digitalacid]

Love to your dad, seems a great, down to earth guy, but god damn that "uh oh" when you are trying to get into something, would drive me crazy!!! 😅😂

[@dieseJL]

Uh oh

[@digitalacid]

@@dieseJL 😂😂

[@staind288]

The grease cap on that distributor is to grease the shaft. You fill that cap up and each time you run it, you give it a turn to push grease into the besrings/bushing

[@Ragnar8504]

The official name, or one of them, is Stauffer cup.

[@marcomcdowell8861]

Wonderful! Grandfather, father and son have all cranked that over 70 years. Imagine the great-grandson having the opportunity to turn that engine over one day!

[@dieseJL]

Yes of course!

[@carloskawasaki656]

Thank you for sharing, always a pleasure watch your project, i learn a lot 👍👍👍👍

[@JohnJohnson-hk7cj]

Love these old machines❤️ Please set one that old girl it would be so cool to her do a little work again💪💪

[@ronmichelle4620]

Great job it sounds real good , you two got some talent !

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

Great job. You got there in the end ! 👍

[@phil4677]

I usta have a shop that bordered Cleveland Trencher's toxic, abandoned site. They pioneered motorized trenching just in time for WW1 and sold to all sides, made a fortune. Bailed to west coast in1970's. Dark piece of history to an awesome machine.

[@dieseJL]

Wow that’s amazing

[@robintanner3247]

Don't give up now...This was a cool video. We want to see it move again. 🙂

[@dieseJL]

Yeah! We’ll get it there…

[@ronrussell4850]

Buda was built in Harvey, Illinois and was purchased by Allis-Chalmers in the 30's or 40's. Used primarily on rail equipment, A very reliable engine.

[@notajp]

Yep! A-C used Buda gas engines thru the model U, then used the Buda diesel in the WD diesel tractors. After that they used Allis-Chalmers designed engines for all their tractors.

[@kevingriffiths4981]

Purchased by Allis Chalmers in 1953

[@RustyInventions-wz6ir]

Wow. I think you were the only people knowing that there was a machine in there. Great video. Can’t believe it turned over even. I have watched a lot of videos and never seen a distributor looking that bad.

[@dieseJL]

yeah it was wild that is for sure

[@morgansword]

I seen the oil and amp gage both working! Yard it out of the hole its in.... pull that clutch housing apart and give it a chance before winding up metal parts into a wad of junk.... just saying JR. I see it working again and if the inside of the clutch looks like the carb.... you get the picture

[@dieseJL]

yeah that and i gotta pull the radiator

[@allenrearden4690]

dont pull radiator its not good to make liquor with​@@dieseJL

[@allenrearden4690]

2cylinder popping Jon engine

[@ЮляАхмедова-х2щ]

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[@COYOTE_N8]

Pretty amazing you guys got it cranking over with very minimal effort. Just tells you the quality in things that were built back in the day. Actually built to last. Unlike most of today's junk, it's built to break so you come back and buy another. Just a bunch of consumers consuming lol. Very cool video. Please restore it as much as you can, the smile on your face says it all when it finally fired up!

[@dieseJL]

Thanks for watching!

[@gutsngorrrr]

It must be great having fantastic treasure hidden all over the place like this, that brings back such amazing family memories.

[@thegypsyking1145]

I started watching and can't stop lol😂 start ALREADY !!

[@kirk467]

That just happened when it rolled over! Good job guys, order a distributor hopefully! Stuff a rag in the distributor hole y’all!

[@jimmysurfed]

It's such a happy moment when it finally runs ! (and your number of subscriptions keeps going up, too!)

[@kirk467]

Once you get it out dad will start remembering how to operate it, that’s how I am! Once I start playing with something, I start remembering how to operate it again!

[@dieseJL]

yeah but then i asked him if it sounded how he remembered and he said 'idk' lol

[@race38dirt]

I gotta say, what got me to hit the subscribe button was the toddler chucking all your tools on the floor in the background.

[@dieseJL]

As he gets bigger and stronger he just throws more tools

[@royreynolds108]

@@dieseJL So long as he does not throw them at you.

[@123renfroe52]

Great job! Enjoyed watching!

[@the_color_orange]

I don’t even know how I came across this video but had to comment on account of the Rip’s Chicken shirt! Some of the best fried chicken on earth. Greetings from Central IL!

[@bouldercreeklimited722]

At 45:17 started the best statement ever…..love it! God bless!

[@ste1872]

Great job getting that running well done guys 💯👍🏻

[@kerry2368]

Super video!!! Thanks for your patience and getting it going!!!! Yay!!! How about winching it out of the bush?

[@dieseJL]

only one way out... it must drive

[@JenkinsUSA]

That took a lot of effort, almost 2 hours of pure youtube joy! Happy holidays from central Florida 🌴🇺🇸 12/27/27

[@endinwahyu]

I love this sound, stereo... full😊😊

[@adamemery9169]

Super cool, I hope you and your dad get it moving!!!

[@tonymiller8826]

The rough timing adjustment is just #1 cylinder TDC on compression stroke, rotate distributor so the points are just beginning to open then move the #1 spark plug wire to the nearest output terminal on the cap. I'm guessing the firring order is 1243... So move the other 3 wires in a clockwise order so it's 1243. The position of the distributor drive gear in the engine isn't important, if you pulled it out again you'd just go through the same procedure above. Once the engine is running, rotate the distributer to fine adjust it.

[@jenniferwhitewolf3784]

Most 4 cyl car engines are 1342.. with 4 throw crankshaft. If this engine has a 2 throw crank, then it would be different.. and I have no clue what kind of crank a Budda has. I would hope this info is online somewhere, like in a vintage tractor forum.

[@tonymiller8826]

⁠​⁠@@jenniferwhitewolf3784Most Modern 4 cylinder engines are 1342. An older/ antique engine is typically 1243.

[@r7kelley553]

That's awesome! It sounds so good. These are the memories you'll have forever.

[@Fatamus]

Do me a BIG favor put a small dab of grease on the cam lobe in the distributor. A dry cam will have a tendency to wear the fiber on the points changing the gap. Just a skim of grease will be sufficient.

[@dieseJL]

you got it

[@phillip9468]

Try non mineral based hi- temp white grease.

[@Iaintwoke]

Some of them used to have a little felt pad for this very reason.

[@Fatamus]

@@Iaintwoke also sometimes new sets of points came with a tiny packet with a fingernails amount of grease to swab the felt pad.

[@phillip9468]

​@@Iaintwoke. The old BSA motorcycles I used to have, & lots of other British machines had those. I used a drop of Singer Sewing Machine oil.👍.

[@jetstreek17]

Great. Vid. You can’t give up on that machine. Keep going.

[@jaygee999]

Tyler, when you asked your Dad that he'd be best to tell the story about the Bucket Loader and Dad said "Oh, I could talk for an hour ! " -- We sent out for pizza === from two states away ! -- LMAO ! ----

[@dieseJL]

hahahaha.... and you didn't see everything i cut out

[@jaygee999]

@@dieseJL Tyler, you're a gem ! -- Don't let anything happen to Dad !

[@Justicesdad]

Deep down your dad probably hated that machine

[@scottmorse1798]

outstanding! old canners above are rejoicing at your old iron resurrection

[@bjduhon1528]

You know we gotta see it work man

[@dieseJL]

give us a few years lol

[@chall6761]

Oh yeah. WIll need to see a continuation of this thing.

[@macks2023]

I'm no expert but the shaft that you cut from the distributor actually turns the oil pump so if you don't have any oil pressure, you may want to weld that length of shaft back on.... lol

[@superbeeblaze]

Not on that model

[@dieseJL]

yeah the oil pump must be somewhere else on this engine

[@bccully]

Hey I am a first time viewer. I love your channel already. Reminds me of working on old Oliver’s with my dad. He manufactures rubber parts at his farm in central Illinois for Korves Oliver they are out of southern Illinois. So if you ever need some made in the USA parts for your old tractors dial up Korves. Great people at that company.

[@tarheelpatch3386]

Buda engine parts are rare as hens teeth,worked on locomotive with a buda engine had to have new parts made and machined.Thie are a few custom radiator shops around that will build one if planning on a restoration.For temp radiator use radiator for like custom car builds jus make sure inlets a outlets are in the correct place.

[@martinparr193]

A good radiator shop should be able to repair that radiator. I grew up repairing 1940s & 1950 cars and trucks and I enjoyed watching you work on this older engine and getting it running.

[@jerrymcjunkin8398]

YES I HAVE I RAN A MODEL 92 AND A 110 TRENCHER BACK IN THE 1980 PUTTING IN WATER LI NE WITH THE 92 M/N AND GAS LINE NATURAL WITH THE M/N 110 WITH A BUDA ENGINE IN GREENVILLE SC 😊!!++

[@baseddoggie]

YOU DONT NEED TO SHOUT, JERRY

[@jessechartier8336]

Nice! good fun, Hope to see you drive it out of there and dig a trench!

[@kirk467]

You hate to get rid of it, and you don’t want to see it scrapped!

[@kirk467]

It’s going to work Tyler, you got this brother

[@SamRFixes]

A business card works well for the points gap, I do it all the time.

[@Fatamus]

@@SamRFixes A match book cover or the top flap off an old box of 30-30 rounds works also. Why everybody has a book of matches and a box of ammo in their glovebox nowadays. Don’t they? 🤔

[@scamp7441]

I just use the top flap of the box that they come in.

[@yowser8780]

50 some-odd years ago, used to be a pop-top from a beer/beverage can. (Heck... you can't find one now). Also could tear off the friction coating from a matchbook and use it to clean the points. (Sighs, if you ask kids now... what's a matchbook ?) Was surprised you didn't use a can of ether on it.

[@Fatamus]

@@yowser8780 Yeah the girls would make long chains of the pop tops and drape them along the ceiling. Along with the little fuzzy feet 👣 yup I been there done that, got a T-shirt and wrote a book about then got sued for plagiarism twice and lost the T-shirt.

[@randomgamer8543]

Didn't give up,and a machine of the past awoke once more...Nice

[@AustralianOpalRocks]

Before watching it, I'll say yes. Because I watched Tony Beets move that very old and dormant giant dredge and use it. And plenty of other old equipment. Those motors run.

[@TrackerFilmz]

watching the oil pressure gauge sky rocket brought a smile to my face so fast man. i love the way those old things looked!

[@MarkHelka]

That's great

[@SteveB-hy2ci]

Stick one of those 1/2" badass impact drivers in the manual kicker!?