Hammer forming and Classical Philosophy- CJ5 Rebuild part 6

Keepin' on with rebuilding the 1956 Willys Jeep CJ5 I pulled out the woods last summer. In this episode, I start tackling rebuilding the body tub, do some hammer forming of patch panels, and discuss why I'm rebuilding rather than replacing through the lens of the classical philosophical question of the "Ship of Theseus".
If you want to see what it looks like when someone who knows what they're doing does this, check out Karl Fisher's channel, Make it Kustom: • Hammer Forming a Beade...
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[@rodfrey]

Wow, your ambition is incredible. It's like you found a package of hamburger on the side of the road and decided to build a cow. 😁

[@boydmcree9085]

Lol crying,

[@johnmerrill6999]

"I cut this three times and it's still too short." Priceless.

[@joshuag.newsteder6284]

We are all Ships of Theseus (“These, Us”!) in our cells all are gone and anew about every seven years, Your Jeep is still the Jeep, as we are all still ourselves - Great Great content and a great sense of humor which makes it perfect. Thanks.

[@DavidLorenTosh]

“And might have to buy some tools”! Motivation for many of my projects 🎉

[@Tellyfive]

I can’t imagine that anybody every has brought a Jeep back that was this far gone. Kudos to you.

[@Zrelli_]

You mind frigged me with that “tap” and the pause button came up. Had to rewind it like 5 times to make sure I wasn’t seeing things. Well done. I had to change my underwear.

[@erichagler7842]

Fitzee's Fabrications he is a wealth of knowledge when it comes to doing that type of work

[@grippgoat]

I immediately thought about Make it Kustom. I love how approachable he makes this stuff seem. And it's really cool to see someone else diving in for the first time.

[@JeremyMakesThings]

I love how he’s genuinely surprised how well things come out, every time. I hope it never gets old for me too.

[@Watchyn_Yarwood]

@@JeremyMakesThings Let's not forget the master, Ron Covell www.youtube.com/@RonCovell

[@russtuff]

Make it Kustom really is amazing. He's one of my favorites, up there with Ron Covell and Wray Shelin.

[@Dellpodder]

I haven't seen any comments on it yet, so here goes: the screen tap gag at 1:14 was top notch! I legitimately thought I bumped my phone screen until I realized what was going on. You are absolutely crushing it with your videos. Thanks for making them and happy new year!

[@trollforge]

The Jeep of Jeremiesius! ;)

[@Reman1975]

Just a little tip for welding up....... "Enthusiastic" gaps in flat panels. Find yourself some flat pieces of copper strip. The thicker the better. If you clamp a wide plate of copper to the back, and a thinner strip to either side of the gap on the front, you can actually drag the weld pool across the copper to bridge larger gaps. The weld doesn't stick to the copper, and it sucks heat out of the metal so fast that it can REALLY localise any panel warping. It also leaves the rear surface of the weld pretty much flat. Just make sure it really is copper you're salvaging from a scrap metal yard or the like. Some copper heavy brass alloys can look deceptively like copper, but will try to give you zinc poisoning if you do this trick with them. Buzz (Bus) bars from old industrial power distribution boxes often have some suitable chunks of copper in them.

[@ferrumignis]

Big props for diving in like this. Starting with something is such a terrible state would be a severe mental hurdle for me, I'd be on the classifieds looking for a less rotten body.

[@MyLilMule]

The same argument was made for the Talley Ho on the Sampson Boat Co channel. Leo replaced every single timber form the keel up. Is it the same boat? I would argue, yes.

[@kendingsor]

Love your humor bud, some quality gut chuckles in this one! The progress is nice too.

[@yeagerxp]

Jeremy your philosophy regarding how you rebuild that jeep is the same as Isaac's at I C Weld "His videos are not about how it is done but how he does it" 🤣🤣 Excellent work 👍👍👍 . Thank you for sharing. Take care of yourself 🇨🇦

[@handbannana3610]

Really enjoying this build. Your vision and humor is really coming through in your last few videos and they are put together well. I'd personally like to see a modern 4 cylinder turbo in this but electric is going to be cool too.

[@billbaggins]

Grandpa's axe, 7 new handles and 3 new heads but still as good as the day he bought it😁

[@JeremyMakesThings]

“I remember once, in Japan, having been to see the Gold Pavilion Temple in Kyoto and being mildly surprised at quite how well it had weathered the passage of time since it was first built in the fourteenth century. I was told it hadn’t weathered well at all, and had in fact been burnt to the ground twice in this century. “So it isn’t the original building?” I had asked my Japanese guide. “But yes, of course it is,” he insisted, rather surprised at my question. “But it’s burnt down?” “Yes. Many times.” “And rebuilt with completely new materials.” “But of course. It was burnt down.” “So how can it be the same building?” “It is always the same building.” I had to admit to myself that this was in fact a perfectly rational point of view, it merely started from an unexpected premise. The idea of the building, the intention of it, its design, are all immutable and are the essence of the building. The intention of the original builders is what survives. The wood of which the design is constructed decays and is replaced when necessary. To be overly concerned with the original materials, which are merely sentimental souvenirs of the past, is to fail to see the living building itself.” - Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See

[@billbaggins]

Must get round to reading that, only been sitting in the bookshelf for 30ish years😁 Another fun aspect of "originality" is thinking that all the cells in your body are replaced roughly every 3 months, so are you really the same bloke that started this project?

[@erik_dk842]

That's the saying I use as well. Don't know them Greeks

[@williamdavidson9009]

OK I'm a whimp, I bought a used fiberglass tub for $250 because my tub looked much like this one. My hat is off to you for repairing this tub!

[@PeterHatton-nm6rn]

I've been rebuilding my GPW for several years and the end is in site. Keep going.

[@philmenzies2477]

Loving this rebuild. For all the haters out there. Its a jeep thing. Remember that. 😉

[@RotarySMP]

Oh cool, A Jeremy video so I can skive off from doing what I need to do. (My video :) You are really finding your voice. Brilliant video!!!

[@christopherbill8537]

Yeah - fire up the schaublin!

[@RotarySMP]

@@christopherbill8537 It is more of a step back, at present.

[@christopherbill8537]

@@RotarySMP Sorry to hear that. I've enjoyed watching you get it this far.

[@RotarySMP]

@@christopherbill8537 Nothing bad. Actually you will see tomorrow. I just got to the point where I needed to disassemble a bit, to be able to move the project along.

[@christopherbill8537]

@@RotarySMP Just watched - Must be a great feeling getting the machine moved into it's final spot.

[@h-j.k.8971]

Yepp, definatly a *restoration* job. Love your channel, keep up the good work 🙂

[@vanpenguin22]

The Jeep, The ship of Thesius, And Washington's axe after 3 new heads and 5 new handles. 🤣 😂 🤣

[@caporizzoj]

Its amazing what you are doing given the dearth of usable metal from the original, good for you man

[@michaelclairforet5031]

I’m impressed with how the corners and bend came out

[@TgWags69]

I would recommend Fitzees Fabrications channel as well. He has a very unique and easy way of making patch panels using very simple tools that would lend itself very well to this project.

[@TheOldaz1]

Like grandfathers axe, lol. Nice work Jeremy.

[@jdmccorful]

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck; so be it. Without a doubt you are a glotten for knowledge. Love watching you work and teaching us as you go.Thanks for the look and your time!

[@nicolasvelich2554]

More videos please!!! Good job!! From Argentina, South America

[@steinmargunnarsson3709]

I think you are doing a great work on this ol' Jeep

[@lumotroph]

This is brilliant. Long live The Jeep of Theseus!

[@FliesLikeABrick]

Perfect, a sheet metal brake is on my list of tools I need to make at some point

[@MarionMakarewicz]

Hey, any project that requires more tools is a win!

[@frederickrusso]

Jeremy..I've watched all of your videos on the jeep restoration and I have concluded that you are much more talented and more skillful than you give yourself credit. You are truly a multifaceted craftsman. Great job.

[@russtuff]

CNC router for hammer forms. Genius.

[@Vikingwerk]

18:20 Ah yes the classic: “The radius of this part is…whatever round thing is within arms length and looks about right.” Guilty of that many times over myself.

[@JeremyMakesThings]

The key is to keep a lot of round things within arms reach….and to work with pieces that are so far gone you can’t really tell anyway. 😆

[@WSmogpule]

That was one of the best Uchoob videos I have seen for MANY years!

[@stevewilliams2498]

UK comedy .. Trigger has used the same broom to sweep up his shop for 20 years. He has had 12 new broom heads. And 3 new styles. 🤗

[@Mr49Studebaker]

I feel like the first few videos on this didn't truly capture just how rough that thing was. Nice work so far .

[@erikdressler5129]

Really enjoying your channel. Trev's Blog is also great for hand metal forming.

[@toddjarman542]

Wow looks great looking forward to seeing your progress 🥃🥃👍🏻

[@tomfarrow710]

Great job of bash to fit file to hide and paint to cover. Keep up the good work

[@daos3300]

...or will it? nicely done, making your own panels is immensely satisfying.

[@powellph]

I have a 65 CJ5 that I need to do a lot of sheet metal work on. I thought mine was bad but after watching this video mine should be a lot less work. I appreciate this video because you gave me a lot of good ideas on how to proceed with mine. I subscribed to your channel so I can follow this build as a template for what I need to do on mine.

[@donmoroz5502]

I've really enjoyed your build as you progress though it. Your skill, ingenuity and good humor shine through in every installment. Can't wait to see the finished product!

[@evansmessygarage]

Great video, I’m really enjoying the build!

[@HenryShiley]

So glad you post how you do, man. I almost posted on your Airing of Grievances, but decided against feeding trolls. I'm glad you show the learning experiences. Someday I hope to restore dad's 94 Cherokee as well.

[@ThoRSuisse]

very nice job 👍🏻👌🏻hello from switzerland 🇨🇭😉

[@odellcreations]

Love it! Keep it coming man!

[@Rubbernecker]

Excellent work!!!!

[@thecerealcommie]

Check out Fitzee’s fabrication. The Cut and Butt!

[@james.d.8044]

It's unbelievable how such an amazing job you have been doing I wouldn't have even known where to start that is a relly cool process to see 💯👍👍

[@RyanAUS]

Haha, “I’ve cut this three times and it’s still too short” 👍🏻

[@tooltimechris7217]

Awesome build!!

[@lookcreations]

Enjoyed that, makes me feel slightly less stupid for rebuilding my series Landrover in the way I’ve done rather than buying replacement parts. All the best with your project.

[@joshwalker5605]

Hahaha when I saw all that rust I immediately thought of @lookcreations Land Rover restoration/recreation

[@charliemyres5450]

Nice work! I think in your shoes I would have said "to hell with the ship", and made an all new body for it. There is probably a market for well-made repair panels for you out there.

[@melbice9906]

My new favorite channel. Love your no nonsense approach to this project. 🇦🇺

[@makingcookingfixing]

Hi Jeremy, I am really enjoying your videos! I am also not a professional, I did some plate work on a old Fiat 500, and I learned about hammering also here on youtube from Trey's Blog I believe, he is a master at this. I recently got my hands on a CJ5 and again I'll have work cut out for me, not as horrible like the one you have, but still, lot of shears in the front body panels and flooring. Thanks for your videos!

[@mickgentry8128]

Really like your channel, very enjoyable! Really impressed in your tenacity and the inventiveness in your builds, very watchable, thoroughly enjoyable cheers !

[@minskmade]

dooood you are using your cnc bed as a work table . :P priceless.. love your videos...great stuff...love the build...

[@JeremyMakesThings]

It’s more like sometimes I clean all the junk off my work table and use it as a cnc router.

[@minskmade]

@@JeremyMakesThings hahahahahaha...love it...im currently making my own version of the avid cnc...used some of their parts and peices...going to use linux cnc instead of mach 3 i think..i use mach 3 on my diy plasma cnc...but thought i would love the pain of leaning linux cnc ...stay tuned...:P .

[@JeremyMakesThings]

I got mine from avidcnc back when they were cncrouterparts, and I’m running Linux cnc on it. The only thing I’ve struggled with is I’ve never gotten the two gantry motors to work as separate joints. Not that I’ve tried much because it works well enough for what I do to just have them slaved together, I just need to be careful to make sure the gantry is actually square.

[@minskmade]

@@JeremyMakesThings i always slave my y-axis...seems to work best..ive built like 4 cncs from scratch...this will be my first linxucnc...tho i am peeking at acorn....it is a bit pricey...but sometime i just want poop to work..im more of a design head that technician...i see you play with the treadmill motors also..i jsut completed a 1950s delta drill press conversion...ill have a video up in the next day or so...love tready motors for builds...

[@larannar123]

Amazing job!! 👏 For someone new at sheet metal fabrication, you're doing great!💯👍👍👍

[@jeffcampbell2388]

J-dawg! Awesome stuff, very entertaining. Makes excellent background noise for my dust-dungeon endeavors. If you ever want to do a series on a yanmar tractor engine refurb, I have one you're welcome to borrow, would need it back when you're done.

[@seancasey2444]

Doing a great job.

[@skip0110]

Really enjoying this project. From a massive pile of rust you took measurements and somehow a Jeep tub emerged!

[@fsj197811]

I just found your channel. Congrats on your recovery of the ol' Jeep. You said you're planning on going electric which is cool but keep in mind the batteries are going to be heavy and those little Jeeps are light weights. Thanks for sharing!

[@Vibraza]

awesome, your channel is brilliant

[@DaS-ys8us]

Fitzee's Fabrication has a good technique for attaching panels you may find interesting. Nice job forming the panels. Just subscribed.

[@kitmaira]

The body on my 69 CJ is almost this far gone. This video is an inspiration. I’d like to think I’m this ambitious, but it looks like a LOT of work!

[@older-wiser-better]

So cool to watch! Love it ❤

[@deeiks12]

Amazing stuff, as always! Be careful when grinding down the welds tho, I think i've warped my panels more during grinding than welding. Especially important for long straight seams.

[@Andrew_Fernie]

Already it looks like something that can be fixed up rather than swept into a skip.

[@edkeniston4786]

A truely great body man is not great at making the body perfect, but great at hiding the imperfections! You might make it, as you seem to understand the difference, none of us were Great at this 35years ago, but we’re pretty good at it now! Keep doing what you’re doing!

[@johndoe43]

I have 6 cj5s. I thought I had some rust. I have one that I've patched and overlaid and it needs done again. I work on it as I can while still driving it. To do the rear I have to park it and pull the gas tank. One piece at a time. Good luck and hopefully we are not in the mental ward before we are done.

[@southmaplegarage]

Hey Dude look up shrinking disc. It something you can make easily and makes the shrinking process very easy to control.

[@adamsfly6212]

You, sir, are a true artisan. I fabricated some panels for a project vehicle but they pale in comparison to what you achieved. well done, well done indeed!

[@macdrew77]

great job!

[@pyromedichd1]

It's looking really good. Your dedication is admirable.

[@larrypalmer7136]

Impressive work and a very entertaining and well-done video, fortunately, I was not inspired. Thanks for the video and I look forward to the next one.

[@georgeowen2083]

Lol I cut it 3 times and it’s still too short. Lololol love it. Been there. Lol

[@kentuckytrapper780]

Damn good job man, my opinion...

[@rickpalechuk4411]

So much learning you have there, you'll be butt welding razor blades in no time! Cheers buds, happy new year

[@UncySpam]

If you want another channel to checkout for doing rust repairs, youtube.com/@GeorgeKarellas is good to watch - you can see how much he has improved from doing exactly what you’re doing now - diving in and learning as you go.

[@edvardteath5951]

Perfect ) Cimi job bravo .

[@jmunozar]

This is really cool! Really liking this and 110% agreed I really enjoy 1rst time approach videos

[@clarkcraig4347]

My thoughts about whether or not it is still a Jeep with all the replacement parts is this: what was the Jeep before it was labeled a Jeep? It was a series of random parts and sheet metal, that once they came together were named Jeep...you are doing the same thing, just with newer parts and sheet metal! So in my humble opinion, it is still a Jeep...carry on good sir

[@TrustingJesus67]

looking great and glad you have the tools and know how to work around it if you don't have it. One day at a time. God Bless

[@josephlovell6951]

Grate job it's taking shape. I think it will be cool when your done

[@TheWoodyworker]

WOW you gotta be happy with that. Great new skills!

[@joshfalcon8360]

Loving these videos! If you haven't come across him yet, KZbin member 'MetalShaper' has a TON of videos on jeep sheet metal repair and panel fab. You seem to have a lot of this figured out already but that guy has some great tips and tricks . Looking forward to the next instalment!

[@robertsandow8362]

Loved watching your skill, I would have to stay here on earth for another 5 lifetimes to achieve what you can do. Will there be a video number 7 sometime

[@JeremyMakesThings]

The next video will be making a sheet metal brake and making the floor pans, it’s just taking me a while to get it done.

[@philiprogers5772]

You might want to make yourself a heavy solid bench as well. Loved the video keep em coming.

[@martinu2725]

Loving the progress on the Jeep Jeremy, great to see someone doing it all from scratch. Not all the toys of Ron Covell but it all looks to be going well, really looking forward to the next installment

[@user-sr2gk2op1u]

Man, it's titanic's work!

[@jamiejohnston7183]

Well done looks great

[@michaelannen4168]

OMG dude, even l would have given up on this one. Maybe if it was an XK120 or something. Anyway, great job.

[@ADBBuild]

If you haven't seen his channel already, check out Ron Covell. He is an amazing metal fabricator who is also great at teaching what he does.

[@erik_dk842]

You are in for a reality check when you try to replicate what he does.

[@pattybeeman]

This is coming along great. Just a suggestion, watch the youtube channel Fitness Fabrications. He gives and demonstrates a lot of great advice for fabricating car panels. It will help your butt weld seems if you follow his advice. I can feel project creep setting in...... I feel your pain. I have a '67 scout 800..... soooo much rust and crap repairs

[@billygoat810]

Weird I just recently read about the Ship of Theseus. I think in a class last semester. Your "ship" will be the same "ship" when you are finished. At least in my opinion. Great video, great build. I think your on your way to a successful channel.

[@erik_dk842]

The simpler version is grandpa's axe. The handle and head has been changed a few times, but it's still grandpa's old axe

[@zachsmith98]

Lots of learning for sure! Looks like it was worth it though haha

[@kevinbarrett9615]

Personally I would have gone to Omix Ida but I don’t have the patience or skill to do what you do.

[@chrislee7817]

Check out triggers broom. Uk variant of the same story.