Hammer Time feat. Brace Belden | Chapo Trap House

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Episode 650 - Hammer Time feat. Brace Belden (8/1/22)
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[@howilearned2stopworrying508]

Howard Schultz was ahead of the curve- sending out goons in vans to black bag and renormalize people. We need you Howard!

[@nicolev2028]

Ask Conner O’Malley

[@patteraj]

I like the image of a miniature black man criticizing one of his subordinates into an epileptic fit. Must have been something to see.

[@KissMyConverseFool]

"sometimes they mean wyt ppl should go back to europe" If gazi can get ireland or norway or germany or france or someplace to take me back, I'm down

[@justcommenting4981]

Oh no. Don't. Please. stop.

[@Meladjusted]

@Socucius Ergalla Nope. Not that easy, lol. If you have a parent who was, yes. With grandparents, it often depends on when they left and/or which side of your family they were on, etc. Even then, you're going to need to also fulfill other requirements, which are usually either financial or educational. I've looked into it. I have a Danish grandmother and German grandfather and neither help me out.

[@erencansinecan775]

i might not be racist, but i'm definitely bracist

[@donnamunro2090]

Highlight of the session: Brace Belden says, "Well, I'm ... normal"

[@keithjackewicz8423]

What’s sad is that it doesn’t take much digging to realize that relative to the overall Leftish online political space, he’s not wrong.

[@parkerlong2658]

@@keithjackewicz8423 pov : you opened the vaush subreddit and there all circle jerking about killing Russian people and how NATO is godSavior of leftist politics also for some reason half of them are kid diddlers.

[@fkrkf]

@@keithjackewicz8423 I have never enlisted in a non state army to fight ISIS. This makes me more normal then brace

[@craigtrautmanjr9393]

Brace episodes are like being given a plate of madmens knowledge from Bloodborne for dinner, and I gleefully tie a bib and smack my lips.

[@quadabyte8933]

This is just final fantasy house, simmaler levels of insanity.

[@nicolev2028]

YAY BRACE TIME! Can’t wait to see him in SF later this year. TrueAnon’s wholesome pod is only gonna get bigger from here

[@mrpieceofwork]

I do have to point out that capitalism tends to drive peeps crazy, so there's that...

[@Mannydamon]

Not really, it's the excessive capital that corrupts the mind.

[@XxCorvette1xX]

@@Mannydamon nah capitalism has plenty of programming that comes along with it lol

[@Cooliofamily]

That one video of the girl sitting by the babbling brook having to SCREAM over this water in order to talk about our ‘freaking liberation’

[@adamallison2028]

All I wanna be is Al Sharpton

[@evanhudson881]

Brace's pause when he says "he's probably an asset...a willing and knowing asset" at about 57:40 seems a little pregnant.

[@joelnicholson]

Let's go Belden!

[@twojstary6666]

Those remarks about poland made by brace and felix was not necessary we do in fact have laptops intels dell and even macbooks plus us porduce more cabbage than poland so your more of a cabbage country and we dont hate jews well some of us atleast

[@nicolev2028]

Do they even know Liz is proudly polish ??

[@debra-sue]

this has fever dream cadence, excellent work

[@twojstary6666]

@@debra-sue yo doug this is a youtube comment not an english test chill and have a nice day

[@your-mom-irl]

Polish pride restored

[@chiball]

as a pole, i don’t even know what a laptop is

[@herpderp728]

all the people complaining about this episode should just take it as necessary self-crit

[@tewodrosii2875]

Im afraid brace is on point with this one. I knew about Gazi back before he blew up because I used to hang with the most INSUFFERABLE black leftists who all became movie critics for Kotaku and The Mary Sue and write only about the MCU. they treated him like a god because there's this weird idea among all POC leftists that aesthetics wise, the goal is and should always be to take the most myopic and esoteric stance and view anything that would make you appeal to the uninitiated as hostile liberalization. also, Gazi now comes off like the crappy version of Malaki York, the cult leader that got 153 years for doing jimmy saville stuff and is locked up in the same prison they have Terry Nichols and the Boston Bomber in

[@valentinchappa6702]

They should make a sitcom with all those guys

[@fkrkf]

If you listen to brace's podcast, its unclear that Terry Nichols and the boston bomber guy were capable of building the bombs and probably got them from a cia/fbi cutout

[@tewodrosii2875]

@@skiptoacceptancemdarlin says the pretentious nerd

[@tewodrosii2875]

@@fkrkf I buy it

[@ImZeroDayz]

All I want to be is El Chapo

[@AloisWeimar]

Much to my white surprise, they didn’t pick the Czech Republic as far as a “good” cabbage-country to live in.

[@lukemadrid5711]

Brace is the goat

[@julymagnus493]

Probably the best Chapo guest. This pig loves finding bits of him in his content slop when he comes up to the Chapo trough.

[@caimacd]

Hah! You have low standards. He's grating and not funny. Like an actual goat can be, I guess

[@lukemadrid5711]

@@caimacd no one cares what u think :)

[@monrow1961]

Goats have huge testicles, saw one when I was young and Iv'e never recovered, wild suff.

[@John_Malka-tits]

Tryna see you guys in LA. Much love guys, California missed you

[@nicolev2028]

Love Channel 5.

[@patrickd7266]

I know Chapo talked about Hammer City briefly in another episode, does anyone remember which one?

[@RIP_Greedo]

The word Brace is looking for is "excoriate." Not exhorsiate.

[@berdyderg900]

That was a felix-tier mispronunciation

[@zachdejoe3386]

What's the outro song? Anyone know?

[@rogueDukakis]

Plugz - Hombre Secreto

[@emilyc.3797]

hi

[@GreenEarth20]

yo what it do?

[@Ondra273]

Hello.

[@tha_demilich1312]

@@GreenEarth20 🤨ayo?

[@GreenEarth20]

@@tha_demilich1312 sup bud

[@ChewyThomson]

Hey

[@berdyderg900]

I remember the funding they got essentially overnight seemed very 👁️ at the time, glad to see those tax dollars paying dividends

[@justcommenting4981]

Right?

[@abstractalien12345]

Their description of dual power as just something someone says to tread water fits dialectical materialism to a t

[@berdyderg900]

Definitely doesn't match my experience. Dialectical materialism, even if people don't use those specific words, is one of the more easily understood socialist concepts.

[@abstractalien12345]

@@berdyderg900 i mean, it has a meaning, but people usually just throw it out to appeal to a pseudo intellectualism

[@SatanasExMachina]

Wanna buy merch directly from the Chapo store, but it needs a password. Wtf gives here?

[@debra-sue]

usually when that happens, the webfront has been shut down by the administrator, usually either because dues haven't been paid or the site is being actively worked on in a way that interferes with its intended purpose

[@marcusianparrish]

Rasheed

[@williamshears9953]

Why is the thumbnail an eco village?

[@willknowsright9615]

Cus it's cool bra

[@williamshears9953]

@@willknowsright9615 I'm not your bra bruh I'm panties

[@freakyzed8467]

Isn't that New York?

[@bsmith8166]

Is brace really a defense contractor?

[@micahrogers7536]

No

[@bsmith8166]

@@skiptoacceptancemdarlin 🤔

[@weejockpoopongmcplop]

Nah they are referencing some Twitter bullshit

[@marcuswalters8093]

Would baby Hitler have been circumcised? Because it's not a common thing outside the US.

[@justcommenting4981]

That's why Europe is almost extinct from aids. Ready to be reverse colonized.

[@your-mom-irl]

Yes but only because his mother was jewish

[@mrpieceofwork]

What is "normal"? Asking for some comrades...

[@berdyderg900]

Get back in the locker, nerd

[@wolfofthetwincities5704]

Make your message and discussions with people palatable. Leftists are associated with weird people and that they should just shut up about the environment or the inequities in our communities or the violence inflicted on the third world etc. What is true about organizing in real life is that you gain these skills. You learn to talk to people who may not use the right terms, but do understand that they are getting screwed. It takes work, but that's what is needed.

[@SUPERBURLBOYROY]

I wonder how many people get shot with registered guns vs unregistered guns?

[@justcommenting4981]

A more interesting question might be "why should anyone care?" and also "what if 1% of either number were senators or billionaires?"

[@SUPERBURLBOYROY]

@@justcommenting4981 ya lost me on that

[@justcommenting4981]

@@SUPERBURLBOYROY how many people get shot without a gun? As far as I know this year it's 1. Shinzo Abe.

[@SUPERBURLBOYROY]

@@justcommenting4981 you mean shot by a penis?

[@aboubacaramine8689]

Very normal to say the word 'normal' that much..

[@rojm]

more brace 😍

[@lanceblankenship9995]

lol at the uncomfortable lefties in the comments who are thinking, "well, actually, Gazi could have been an excellent comrade if only..." "Why is the American left so weird?" is like asking "Why are NBA players so tall?"

[@refoliation]

who are you lol ing at exactly?

[@joshuamarx8209]

A swing and a miss Lance..

[@berdyderg900]

One day you'll come up with the perfect yt comment and then this will have all been worth it (maybe)

[@debra-sue]

the intelligence community are not sending their best smh

[@fkrkf]

I thought the pitch "be normal" was more then bit rich coming from Brace. My dude went to fight ISIS in Kurdistan! I'm still not convinced that whole screed to *"BE NORMAL!"* wasn't a bit.

[@Mynutshard]

It’s funny how podcasters are 100% more online than anyone that listens to this yet they lecture the audience on normality. Hilarious

[@joshuamarx8209]

Lol! There's no architecture for discussing anything other than reactionary politics in the US. WTF do you expect?

[@Mynutshard]

@@harrybirchall3308 good point

[@justcommenting4981]

@@harrybirchall3308 it was a call for help right? Hel-p? We're in(need of) hel-p? I only saw the first 20 minutes.

[@Mynutshard]

@@justcommenting4981 I think he means they’re saying to the audience don’t go past the event horizon (terminally online) like we have, could be wrong

[@justcommenting4981]

@@Mynutshard right. So go ahead past the event horizon to explore what's beyond, which is the theme of the movie.

[@connorl9546]

I don't know this seems like a Leonard peltier situation free my mans

[@caimacd]

I kinda can't stand Brace. How's he doing his little self serious speel about everyone needing to be normal. Him. He's saying that.

[@lukemadrid5711]

Offended, huh?

[@ItsOgre]

An amazing thing to watch on KZbin is the CPI conference Jackson Hinkle speech, standing in front of a menacing giant Lincoln head and next to Mr Smith from a high school production of the Matrix with an ear piece and ill fitted suit and sunglasses, with an audience of the most terminally online people imaginable, saying he’s glad to be in a room full of “normal” people. I think that concept can be very malleable.

[@BigHomieGayAss1917]

MOOOOO!!!

[@kushluk777]

Ha. You have a point.

[@justcommenting4981]

Is this helping you cope between doing the reading?

[@edwoodsr]

OK, 3 min in: does not sound like the guy from True Anon.

[@Mannydamon]

What do you mean....

[@Garrett1240]

Sounds no different. Weird comment.

[@nikop1365]

Brace had a little "accident". This is his twin brother Bryce

[@justcommenting4981]

Confirmed Brace has been taken to secret underground trials and been replaced with a clone.

[@debra-sue]

@@justcommenting4981 the _real_ Belden Program reveals itself 🤔

[@haterde2505]

ok prove to me that german leftism is weirder than american leftism or youll lose my subscription! good day menschies!!!

[@JohnJohnson-vq7ze]

There's a German leftist movement called Anti-Germans that diverges from the rest of the left by defending Israel on everything.

[@berdyderg900]

Well German leftism is at least a little weird and there is no left movement in America so I think they still win by technicality

[@mo_rocksteady]

the antideutsche are pretty damn weird

[@Chaz31358]

Flying Israeli, British and American flags at ostensibly leftist demos is pretty fucking weird.

[@berdyderg900]

@@Chaz31358 ironic shitposting irl

[@BennySalto]

If food & shelter insecurity increases the coming few years (and probably forever due to top soil loss) we will see more of these strange tribal clans trying to to grass roots power moves. This could very well lead to localised war-like tensions. This is some unstable shit waiting to be pushed over. It would be funny though if some strange concoction or loose federation of tribes would unite to overthrow the eagle bearing coloniser. They would probably then unite into some new empire or reich if you will and become the 4th eagle bearing entity. They need to brush up on the science though, military logistics doesn't work based on indigenous knowledge systems.

[@fkrkf]

You are not well my dude. But I get it, we're all unwell after 2020. May you find peace

[@maxkordon]

I wish cyberpunk was real too, it’d be really cool to have a shotgun arm and live in the nomad clans on my rad motorcycle

[@GregorySnipe]

😴 Snore

[@DeadManAnimations]

Honestly, the worst episode of Chapo, by far.

[@akagrace91]

Oh? First one I listened to, bad luck.

[@chetkayeable]

@@akagrace91 It rules, Brace is a regular guest.

[@sappy441]

@@akagrace91 You don't want to start by listening to whole episodes. You want to go to Acid Marxist's channel here on KZbin and start with the movie reviews, then the Reading Series, then all of Rod Dreher, then after that you can try tackling a whole episode. Me, personally, listening to Acid Marxist's channel for eight months now and I still can't stand full episodes unless it's with the Blowback fellas but I still try every so often.

[@akagrace91]

@@sappy441 movie reviews?? That doesn't sound relevant to my interests. I'm not sure how to label what direction I'm coming from but I asked from a new friend on twitter, some dude with a hammer and sickle in his icon, what his favorite sources to follow are, since I'm looking to expand my horizons, and El Chapo got mentioned. Generally I like leftists (not "liberals") but I've been allergic to "commies" and "tankies" (partly because I'm Estonian). ... Thanks if you read all that and any further recommendations are welcome 🤗

[@keithjackewicz8423]

-people who spam at people to “Read Settlers” on Leftbook and Twitter.

[@Randiddle]

Just a weird, meandering, unusually pretentious conversation. Had to stop the vid. See you next ep fellas.

[@brettelder2592]

Meandering is the right word. I like TrueAnon, but I don't even understand what they're talking about here.

[@charlestoms8289]

I try, because someone recommended the podcast a year ago. There are sequences of words that are novel to me, and everyone seems to be sure. Is it hubris? Should it be tested in the marketplace of ideas? How is it measured when artificially supported?

[@SelassieEye]

Agreed, brace made no effort to engage with any of the ideas they talked about, dismissed every concept with “well crazy people think it means x.” Very painful

[@janosmarothy5409]

Black Hammer member spotted

[@BigHomieGayAss1917]

You should email Virgil to tell them what they should do better next time. Constructive criticism is always useful, especially from the fan base.

[@lilfilth5622]

Chapo is really at their worst when they take on that annoying, cynical “ironic” nihilism and do nothing but criticize the left or anyone who’s politically engaged. Not even talking about black hammer, they’re obviously awful. And yeah internet leftists are annoying but just shitting on the concept of political engagement and the pure disdain all of these guys seem to have for socialism in this episode is insane. I’m a big Chapo fan but this really sucked to listen to.

[@planetfixer]

i think the problem you have is confusing a group of grifting narcissists who identify with socialist politics on a superfiical level as genuine well intentioned political actors. these people are transparently bad faith and make no real political progress other than slightly damaging the broader optics of leftism. they deserve to be mocked

[@willknowsright9615]

@@planetfixer Hell ya dude

[@futon2345]

It’s not funny when you punch left.

[@LARVAMOLT]

No it's really funny actually

[@janosmarothy5409]

Tbf they're punching right in this episode. Also good humor and good politics don't correlate. If that were the case, I'd never listen to a podcast that's basically just petty bourgeois socdem doomerism

[@bigbrother787]

'Left Wing' Communism, an infantile disorder.

[@BigHomieGayAss1917]

It’s not punching left, it’s doing a collective struggle session. Unfortunately, Black Hammer has been lost to its bourgeois subjectivism. Also I’m gay

[@kushluk777]

It's important we as leftists recognize that some movements become crazed personality cults. That's bad for leftism, bad for us, and bad for the unfortunate people they capture.