Feelin’ Feinstein! | Chapo Trap House

/ chapotraphouseepisode 634 - Feelin’ Feinstein! (6/6/22)Between a piece on “the left’s” positions on Ukraine, the NYT’s coverage of the death of Al Jazeera journalist Shireen Abu Akleh, and Rebecca Traister’s new profile of Dianne Feinstein, the theme of today’s episode is “looking the truth in the face and ignoring the most obvious conclusion.”buy our book: www.chapotraphouse.com/book
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[@BoneMachine1443]

who can forget the time Feinstein absolutely *owned* that class of kids for wanting a habitable world to grow up on

[@bigfatdynamo246]

Still amazing to me that she was a largely-reviled politician in CA who was known for flying the stars & bars over San Francisco multiple times during her governor bid, and then she got to ride a primitive girlboss wave into the fucking US senate.

[@lastnamefirstname1491]

Those kids had it coming. The gall. To ask a senile senator to consider their future, past their time here.

[@akumakorgar]

Those children were insolent! They didn't offer her even a single drop of their blood to sustain her

[@Will_Moffett]

The young don't really realize that you have to kill and take and take and kill or the other guy will.

[@SuperPal-tr3go]

@@bigfatdynamo246 Goddamn that is depressing.

[@zachflame123]

I was gay until 5 minutes ago when I got triple gay

[@SuperPal-tr3go]

Good, good... you've grown stronger.

[@joelnicholson]

Hell yeah, dude.

[@aqualili]

gay gay gay homosexual gay

[@AdamHammel]

Wanna gay something about it?

[@garrettshaffer1101]

Lamo she died today

[@bobjohnson7148]

It isn’t a Chapo comment section without some good old-fashioned absolute brain rot!

[@brewersfan9322]

They've gotten everything they wanted, a blank check to the MIC for 'lethal aid', a full week of post-911 solidarity and a proxy war fought to the last Ukrainian. Even still, they flock to a Chapo video minutes after it's posted to complain that the leftist podcast entertainers don't totally agree with them.

[@feydrautha012]

Well, if people in our very serious MSM think that a DSA take on Ukraine is actually important, and examination of the decades of post-Soviet US policy isn't important, that's bound to cause some brain rot that will trickle down into places like this.

[@OpiatesAndTits]

@@feydrautha012 of course an examination of post soviet foreign policy is important. That’s like 30+ years of history at this point. But there’s nothing in that post Soviet foreign policy history that justifies any country invading another country unprovoked nor does it justify territorial annexation. Especially when both parties signed a treaty agreeing on mutual borders.

[@chetkayeable]

@@OpiatesAndTits Except the US instigating a coup against the democratically elected leader of Ukraine and the murdering 13+thousand Russian people in the East of the Country. Russia offered 2 diplomatic settlements but were rebuffed, hence the war.

[@JulianPerez-zv6os]

@@OpiatesAndTits This war started in 2014, when the US couped the government of Ukraine, not in March.

[@supermarx]

Don't trust anyone over 85.

[@fromskytonothing]

*60, ftfy.

[@ohbluescouser6267]

Feinstein is an institutionalist....when the institution is an elder care facility

[@No.0.o.0]

Is everyone gay yet?

[@TheDizzieC]

Not being gay is also gay.

[@TennesseeJed]

After the reaming this country has given me, I reckon I'd be a power bottom at this point.

[@howwitty]

Not yet!

[@My_Balls]

Not gay enough

[@NosyFella]

Getting there

[@homerco213]

I'm going to join the Patreon finally. I've listened to Chapo of Cthulhu 5,000 times. The boys have earned it. RIP Virgil, if only they could do another. Something set in the horrifying facebook Metaverse maybe.

[@bobjohnson7148]

They did another campaign, but it’s dark fantasy and less cosmic horror

[@Will_Moffett]

The reason for the Duss piece is that when almost everyone is lying but that one person is holding on to the truth (GrayZone) it's super annoying. If the GrayZone would just shut up then there wouldn't be any people who went to good schools reminding all the craven cowards just how big of cowards they are.

[@warmlycalculated390]

Absolute tankie garbage. Putin's invasion is only slightly more justified than Iraq. Invading a country to force your brand of government on them isn't the kind of leftism I signed up for. That said, the weapons' shipments need to stop.

[@Will_Moffett]

@@warmlycalculated390 I don't see where the self defense justification of Russia falters. NATO has been encroaching for decades, Russia has expressed fear and that they view it as a threat, and there is no reason for them not to view hostile military installations on their border. Once the U.S. fomented a coup to actualize the greatest of those threats, Russia is justified in its invasion. I'm not saying it was their best move and I can't speak to that intelligently, but the invasion was to stop an existential threat posed by NATO. Not everyone in the world, or on the Left, is like you or most of your Leftist pals who just take abuse indefinitely and just post about it while it gets worse. Some people or groups have a limit.

[@warmlycalculated390]

@@Will_Moffett The NATO line is tiresome. There was no impending mandate for UKR joining NATO. If this would've just been a repeat of the incursion into Georgia, I wouldn't speak ill of Russia for this. But Putin showed his hand when he foolishly and barbarically went after Kiev for LITERALLY NO REASON.

[@Will_Moffett]

@@warmlycalculated390 But we learned in The Red October that a Russian doesn't take a dump without a plan. Even the morons who think Putin is "trying to recreate the Soviet Union" know that there has to be some reason, which is why they say that dumb shit. There are plenty of veteran diplomats and those who worked at state who think Putin is acting rationally if suboptimally. And Ukraine didn't have to be an official member of NATO in order become a serious threat to Russia.

[@nicolev2028]

Felix's birthday month? he just turned 22 boys and girls!

[@technologic21]

No such thing as an 'ex-gay,' just people pressured into denial by mutant freaks of MTG's ilk. Oh Milo, you poor, poor lost soul.

[@the_exegete]

There's a decent chance that Milo was always lying about being gay though. Seems almost certain that he was always lying about having a black husband too, whether he is gay or not.

[@technologic21]

@@the_exegete he was married. He used to post all the time pics of his late husband.

[@the_exegete]

@@technologic21 oh, he posted pictures? case closed then, those can't be fake. pretty convenient for the guy to up and die just in time for the ex-gay grift to start, but I guess that's just G-d's plan

[@the_exegete]

@@technologic21 Yeah alright, I've looked into it a little more. Milo's "husband" is not dead (I assume you meant "late" as in "no longer married"?). According to Milo he's been "demoted to roommate" which is of course not how marriage works. Milo also claimed to only have $800 in his checking account but still chose to charter a boat to go throw his $150k dollar engagement ring into the ocean. Guess he was fine with pawning the wedding ring, eh? Also lucky that charting boats for ocean cruises is so cheap. Needless to say none of this shit adds up, especially when you also factor in Milo's statement that he's still buying his husband er I mean roommate Givenchy and a new Porche every year. So yeah, I'm still calling bullshit on this whole sham marriage. He hired a black guy to pose the back of his head for some photos.

[@Jarjarbinks683]

They're talking about Ukraine in the first couple minutes and the video has 430 comments already, only one day later. I don't think I'm going to even bother today.

[@andrewryan7029]

My God that thumbnail. The intro music should've changed to Slayer's "Dead Skin Mask" for this ep

[@akumakorgar]

How far do you think you could stretch her face off her head if you grabbed her cheek skin with both hands

[@syd5380]

Lmao that would have been perfect

[@jeffm3283]

If you Google this stuff about Feinstein right now the 2nd article that pops up is about the photo they used

[@aseemawad4294]

That thumbnail must be illegal in Germany.

[@NKzutube]

Why isn’t this working???!!! Oh and I’m gay too!!!

[@NKzutube]

Oh it’s working now. Woohoo!

[@tpu55]

Confusion Therapy

[@torsion7214]

Frankly it's time to get ahead of Russia and #Nukekraine

[@tommyhowsthepeeping]

I believe in compromise, negotiation and finding the most equitable solution for all. I propose that we nuke Kiev, Moscow, London and Terra Haute - Indiana

[@icarusearthbound]

Hey, gotta nuke something amiright?

[@101tyman]

They should have called this ep “The Evil Dead”

[@polishpipebomb]

Oooo

[@juliettedemaso7588]

Milo is Pinocchio 2.0. Marge is the fairy godmother. Because everyone in media and power are so old they think Milo can become a Real Boy.

[@grimsnark4849]

Who want they Feintussy ate?

[@trashmoneyyt]

Jail

[@DiarrheaBubbles]

I'm gay

[@malikshabazz2065]

so true

[@AloisWeimar]

I’m in a fugue state

[@Mark-jr6ld]

Is Beccer Traister related to Dexter Jettster?

[@octobrain23232]

The Senate is a figurative sect of vampires, and the they’d only need to do a few more adjustments (one of which is only allow super old members) to move into literal territory.

[@tcf5361]

Sick Mark Foley reference

[@neilmoore7194]

I have hated Swienstein since Mayor Joe Alioto's backers funded her campaign so Alioto could win with 43%, since he was so unpopular. I met her when she had a campaign walk in the Marina District where I lived in 1971. She stopped to shake her white gloved hane (common for San Francisco, in those times). As she thrusted her hand I asked as to why Alioto's backers where the same as hers. Well, she nodded and said Hi nice to meet you". And walked away...I have HATED her since. 50 years plus. She is a total shill!

[@genxerfool9797]

Jesus Christ! Where did they get that awful picture?

[@genxerfool9797]

@@FemmiFatale Gross? Why?

[@thecollector6746]

Her face

[@ishiali100]

U guys don't understand we have to sell some guns

[@technologic21]

Of course they do. It's the War Economy. It's what keeps the American state afloat. Remove its monopoly on violence, the empire collapses. "The sacrifices of war cause a shift in the times, this shift leads to renewed conflict, and in turn, triggers the next war. Like nuclear reaction, each conflict sparks countless others." - The Boss, MGS3

[@ishiali100]

@@technologic21 yeah bro the market place is god, technology his ark angel

[@Oxbloodmage]

Are you feeling fine, Stein?

[@franskoster9572]

You guys may want to check Peter Beinart's position nowadays. It's a small quibble in context of the episode given you dropped his name as an aside, but his thinking on Israel/Palestine has undergone a pretty dramatic change.

[@cat_city2009]

Everywhere at The End of Time is the theme song of this episode.

[@freakyzed8467]

Milo teaming up with Greene is only a good thing. If we could somehow get Madison Cawthorne back, throw in Sargon and Matt Gaetz and you have the Power Rangers for the Alt Right. Which one would be the Pink Ranger?

[@MrKYT-gb8gs]

Madison, ofc

[@bighomiegayass1917]

@@MrKYT-gb8gs or Madison’s cousin

[@mitochondriac5946]

Present and gay

[@speshulgurlee]

At ease

[@pokemongo-up3rq]

39:40 I feel like somewhere out their there's an Israeli version of Chapo that's just making crying fake boo hoo noises when people complain about them blowing kids and medics heads off with snipers.

[@heidimelcarek3677]

That tracks!

[@homerco213]

No one credits the podcast Milo said that on. It was The Drunken Peasants. Not that anyone cares, TJ is pretty on point these days, although no longer affiliated with TDP.

[@sirtoby4939]

He said it on Rogan first.

[@polishpipebomb]

@@sirtoby4939 But that's not the clip they played, they played the DP one but blacked out the screen and logo lol

[@5508Vanderdekken]

LOTS of examples of idiots hearing one thing and making it into some other argument in their head. FFS no wonder there's no hope of a left movement from supposed "fans" of this show. They can't even hear 1 word without misinterpreting the entire meaning of what someone's trying to say

[@kazumahazeuzumaki]

Huh?

[@chetkayeable]

@@kazumahazeuzumaki They are not fans but shit-libs upset with reality.

[@topleybird2443]

Radlibs absolutely malding just as expected.

[@feydrautha012]

Was there some sh*tlib reddit thread frothing about this video ~12 hours ago or something?

[@MilesBont]

@@feydrautha012 Nah, there are plenty of regular listeners who just hate Chapo for whatever reason these days.

[@zztopfan5201]

We need to start nuclear world war to save Zelensky and Ukraine. It’s just like Thanos and the Avengers. No price is to much for justice!

[@akumakorgar]

V O L D E M O R T

[@michaelrexrode3759]

Where's the audio?

[@barryo924]

i think we should all be friends 😃

[@Sneezes_LoL]

Anyone who uses the word chilling should break rocks for 1000 years

[@willknowsright9615]

agreed.......im gay

[@speshulgurlee]

The phrase "manic pixie dream conflict" made me need to get up and pace my apartment for a while. He really thought he did something there.

[@HinterDemGlas]

I swear I've heard a left podcaster call Syria the Manic Pixie etc. for the US State Department before

[@topleybird2443]

Oh it’s not his. Someone on the War Nerd podcast used it years ago, and I think that even then they were referencing someone else.

[@uncletoogie]

All the news that's fit to print

[@zztopfan5201]

So what’s your thoughts on communism being illegal in Ukraine and Zelensky recently banning ALL left wing political parties? Sounds pretty fascist and Nazi to me.

[@NameNotAlreadyTaken2]

If only it were true

[@nohbuddy1]

That didn't happen. Even if they did that doesn't justify an invasion anymore as North Korea being oppressive means we should invade them

[@mah5191]

can't find a single nominally left wing party that had even won seats in the last ukrainian election? I know they had banned some of the parties that had advocated on behalf of Russians/Russian speakers which is bad but that's also not the same thing?

[@BlackBoxGamers]

pushin Z

[@BB-ez1mp]

Ukraine suspended a few political organisations directly backed by Kreml. The real Ukrainian left is fighting the Russians alongside everybody else.

[@CzolgoszWorkinMan]

This Pod Is Dedicated To The Brave Azov Fighters Of Ukraine

[@MaryHayesHMH]

They’re so badass‼️🔱

[@akumakorgar]

Giving people guns is how you make friends and then they stay your friends, forever!

[@deathmagneto-soy]

That's gonna be on the last frame of Rambo 6.

[@technologic21]

All 900-1,000 of them in that unit.

[@michaelbarbarich3965]

Unironically braver than tankie posters

[@ince55ant]

corpse-puppet

[@jeffm3283]

There's a chess game just to get the public's attention

[@billyscenic5610]

Fienstien is a doddering PMC.

[@jugo1944]

She looks like the inbred oracle from Midsommar

[@ince55ant]

she'd still get it tho

[@berdyderg900]

I'm ex-gay now

[@DiarrheaBubbles]

Sure, pal.

[@berdyderg900]

@@DiarrheaBubbles you think I'd just post something like that online for the hell of it?

[@AwkwardKyle]

I'm EX Gay. I'm gay, but I have to burn meter to do it.

[@MaryHayesHMH]

Crip in peace Stepan Bandera (dead homie).

[@SUPERBURLBOYROY]

Hello my lovely little maggots

[@aakashbasu3219]

Matt Christman real

[@ChewyThomson]

Chauncy!

[@technologic21]

Here we are, crawling in the pile.

[@jingbot1071]

I *DO* like Slipknot, how did you know?

[@bb-zr2tv]

hey what’s up Matt

[@Jarjarbinks683]

18:19 Zelensky was the first person endorsed by national this year BABE 💪

[@ibu6006]

The Ukraine war has really broken chapos brains

[@pantsedjuniorhayseed4816]

wow so much sexism!! why do you all hate strong women in power?

[@nerag7459]

Milo is a woman?

[@supermarx]

@@nerag7459 Feminisation therapy.

[@jingbot1071]

They were all bimbofied so it's ok

[@jcbeta730]

Wow, you'd think these jokers would've realized the magnitude of the L they took when they released their episode mocking 'fearmongering' about Russian invasion AFTER it was already in progress. Now Felix has decided that 'Ukrainian higher command' is doing some sort of crime by sending volunteers 'signing up to defend their hometown to the front lines' as if most troops don't expect to go to the front lines in a war they join. Felix Ukraine has internet they know what the war is. What a joke, anything to try to make up for their loser takes early on. They're mocking people for taking the flag off their twitter and telling Ukrainian troops they're fighting for nothing. Just go back to reviewing Tom Cruise movies in your pajamas. Ukrainian troops fighting for their homeland aren't listening to you anyway, and I expect they'd disagree with you about them having 'no hope of winning'

[@laughingoctopus6550]

I'm seeing alot of anger directed towards comedians you will never meet and who will never know you exist. *Lights cigarette* Let's talk about it.

[@jcbeta730]

@@laughingoctopus6550 You're right, *boofs nutmeg*, as with any art form, comedy is above criticism and should not be taken seriously.

[@5508Vanderdekken]

@@jcbeta730 lol. yep, keep holding them accountable

[@hegaliandialectics4289]

whooooooo caaaaaaareeees

[@Will_Moffett]

If wrong predictions were L's CNN would never lose at Tetris.

[@theeNappy]

Imperialism is when America (and only America) does stuff /s

[@akumakorgar]

Never stop whining, radlibs

[@Will_Moffett]

Not true- it's also when a country doesn't want hostile military installations on its border.

[@freakyzed8467]

@@Will_Moffett so let Putin just roll in. Gotcha. Galaxy meme in action!

[@mlbp2567]

Being anti-America means you’re on the right side of history 99.99% of the time

[@thepants1450]

when they're the unipolar power of the world: yes

[@TildaSwintonPlayingThomYorke]

Chapo’s stance is literally just the negative image of the article they read, “nothing can be done but at least WE have the right opinion about it. And that opinion is just dunking on American foreign policy we can’t democratically control anyway.” It amounts to an equivalent cop out, and one that’s far too easy to defend from the position of perfect objectivity afforded by the comfort of being a leftist Brooklynite podcaster. Of course everyone understands fighting Russia and capitulating to Russia is a false choice…all roads lead to rubble. But how can you really act like if you were in ukraine you absolutely wouldn’t rather be rubble than live in the eastern bloc version of the handmaids tale? (Yes the future extended to them by the west vis-à-vis IMF loans doesn’t look great either) It’s only in the milieu of being a cosmopolite culture critic that the idea of fighting for a lost conflict sounds like a waste of calories. I think the problem is that Ukrainians, at least, would rather die on their own terms in a desperate ugly conflict, rather than die later with potentially even less dignity, when they’re forcibly relocated to Yakutia, or executed in Russian tribunals, or laboring under a some Ukrainian iteration of kadyrovite regime. Essentially, I am making the cop out critique, too. No, nothing can really be done, but snarkily scoffing at people defending their homeland simply because they’d rather be a pool of blood on their own terms rather than become a pool of blood under Russia terms is the kind of offensively detached and alienated logic. The only way this could makes sense is from the false objectivity of an American-centric perspective, that is but lightly veiled over with American pseudo-self-critical leftism. Either way the Ukrainians are fed to the meat Grinder, if you’re chapo then the meaning of that human loss should be “they may have been needlessly killed, but least nato’s expansionism can get fucked I guess.” If you’re a liberal “They died for nothing, but it least Russia’s expansionism cost them dearly.” There’s no action item here either, other than I guess if the former is your take, maybe further your understanding of the vicissitude of actually being faced with that false choice. Then maybe the chapo boys wouldn’t be so confused as to why it seems like Ukrainians aren’t listening to the wisdom of the podcast and rolling over in ironic detachment for the Russians because it’s so obvious they’re wasting their own time choosing to die in combat rather than 1-2 years later emaciated and humiliated in gulags.

[@laughingoctopus6550]

@@ii121 Same, these high-school kids need to lay off the fucking addies, Jesus Christ

[@tomhyland8799]

I ain’t reading all that i’m happy for u tho or sorry that happened

[@subtleusername5475]

you could've just said "someone told me russia bad? so therefore, fighting good" and saved yourself all that typing

[@freakyzed8467]

@@ii121 you should read them. He makes good points. But if staying ignorant is your thing then be my guest. Grunt and eat up the slop provided little piggie!

[@freakyzed8467]

@@subtleusername5475 ah, being dismissive without actually addressing what was said. Is that you, Fox News?

[@Apolita1987]

Chapo's position on Ukraine is borderline incomprehensible. The issue is, if you support Ukraine, you support the military aid. That's how you support a country which has been militarily invaded. The other option is to get directly involved militarily - I somehow doubt they'd support that. If Russia is spending billions on the invasion, Ukraine needs to do the same. If they don't have the money, they should be helped by countries which do. The idea that there is no way for the Ukrainians to win is simply not correct, especially if the West keeps supplying high-tech weapons systems. As far as whether they should give up part of their territory - I believe it is for them to decide. I suspect Chapo's position of "oh my, we should stop the fighting and allow the occupiers to take control of large swathes of the territory" might not apply to Palestine. There are a number of woolly statements which serve to obfuscate the reality - there is a clear aggressor and a clear victim. The article criticizes DSA's position on the conflict - which is clearly incorrect. If you don't care about the DSA, you shouldn't care about the criticism. If you do, you should care about the statement being dogshit.

[@ericlarsen9830]

but if I wanted to send weapons to Iraqis to resist America Im the bad guy

[@kivsto8130]

Let's be generous and say they have 1 in 100 odds to pull out a win. What does Ukraine look like then? Rubble. American government isnt even hoping for that scenario theyve probably calculated that 40 billion is enough to prolong a stalemate where more shipments will be needed and can enrich defense contractors even more

[@MilesBont]

There is no way for Ukraine to win, short of direct military intervention, which isn’t happening. Thinking anything else is delusional and simply delaying the inevitable. People who are deciding on US foreign policy have no idea what they are even trying to achieve there, and at the same time people like Macron and Scholz, who actually have to live with the consequences are getting vilified as sellouts or cowards for not wanting something that isn’t happening anyway. Where I would criticize Chapo is that they are still subscribed to the liberal worldview and are attached to the liberal world order, but at least they understand that there isn't going to be any kind of left that's going to affect it, and that it doesn't matter what anyone thinks. Also, comparing Ukraine to Palestine is laughable when it’s Israel that the US supports. Personally, I don’t want any US involvement ANYWHERE in the world outside US borders, because the US government simply isn’t an honest broker and it can not make any decisions on anyone’s behalf. We simply need to get rid off this neocon notion that has poisoned even the so-called left. Paraphrasing Donald Trump here: the world is a mess, it's as angry as it gets. This is not 1941 we're living, we are not a society gearing towards the fight between good and evil as a united front and storming Normandy. This is a world of global capital and cynical power politics, where you are used as a pawn. If you want to fight, go to Ukraine right now and put your body on the line, otherwise stop pretending you are part of it.

[@Apolita1987]

@@ericlarsen9830 Says who? Not me.

[@Apolita1987]

@@kivsto8130 People once said North Vietnam couldn't possibly win a war against the US. Ukraine is much closer to winning than Russia. Ukraine doesn't need an out-and-out military victory. What it needs to accomplish is convince Russia that the war is not worth the cost. They're doing that, on top of actually going toe-to-toe militarily. As far as it looking like rubble - it's their rubble. Stalingrad also ended up looking like rubble. I guess they should have just that given up too.

[@ihollander6736]

Was fine until you started lying about Ukraine, lol. What a trashfire

[@zztopfan5201]

God bless the Russian denazifiers and liberators! Slava Russia! Z 🇷🇺 💪

[@eemoogee160]

Would you shave off your beard for the Motherland?

[@jingbot1071]

They should fear your ability to swing a guitar 360 degrees around your neck. This tactical maneuver allows you to create distance in CQC situations between you and enemy operators.

[@HamboneSmithers]

Boy oh boy do I have a bridge to sell you