Debunking Araki Forgot Extras 9

[@Hamon_Beat]

Reply to this post with your topics for a future Debunking Araki Forgot video. Taking questions from Parts 1-8 and spin-offs. Refrain from replying to eachother too much so it doesn't hit the reply limit.

[@tayronesousadascostas9421]

What was that force field that protected pucci and c-moon when stone free tries to punch them? I really don't remember seeing this in the manga.

[@stonemanga2782]

why doesnt jotaro get any women even though star platinum ;power is to get women because he is blue

[@tayronesousadascostas9421]

It was said by Dire in part 1 that the Hamon is maintained for a few moments in living things like flowers and it is said by Straits that it can be transmitted through metal but it needs constant contact, but in part 2 Joseph manages to maintain the Hamon in the clackers and the metal ball he shoots into Wham's chest for some time without touching them.

[@stonemanga2782]

In crazy diamonds demonic heartbreak, if short kid with big hairs stand is actually not his, then how can he see stands

[@stonemanga2782]

why do characters in golden wind refer to their abilities as "stands" beside only giorno knowing and never meeting the boss in general

[@racepoole_]

"How did Dio live without oxygen" mf's forgetting he was just a head for the last part of Phantom Blood 😂

[@azahalbiora]

Phantom what??? Jojo is only part 3 and 5! You need to skip the filler arcs!!!

[@pachurro2762]

@@azahalbiorawell part 2,4,5 are the only filler since part 1 introduces dio and the joestar lineage and hamon (which Joseph used once in part 3)

[@Insouciant_Lyfê]

​@pachurro2762 You don't know what filler is lol.

[@dandyrion5779]

I think any reasonable person should be able to piece together the events between Episode 1 of Phantom Blood and the final episode of Stone Ocean without any supplementary material. Everything in between is just filler if you look at the grand scheme of it. After all, everyone knows the only nutritional parts of a sandwich is the bread

[@rileyinscoe3558]

You missed the joke​@@Insouciant_Lyfê

[@nseven1117]

"Jojo isn't consistent with time and age" of course it isn't, Araki is a being outside of time and is immune to aging

[@azureawe]

araki is the real ultimate lifeform

[@nicknuts3213]

​@@azureawe One of the mangakas of all time

[@CrustyFox87]

Araki is Japan’s Professor Paradox

[@Slim-yu1ud]

The Johnny one is so funny bc he uses his fingers MORE than the toes but some how the guy came to the conclusion that he didn’t use his fingers at all.

[@cheese0827]

Doesn't johnny use his toes like once? (Maybe twice)

[@Slim-yu1ud]

@@cheese0827 did you watch the video? I’m talking abt the fight against Wired.

[@Mikeyrew]

I forgot that Johnny can even use toes lol

[@sictrix]

the commenter was asking why johnny doesnt use his toenails after the wired fight.

[@John34bruh]

@@sictrixprobably cuz he needs shoes and the fact that sense he’s paralyzed below, he can’t aim it. (Ur right sometimes hamon will misinterpret a question’s real meaning and it’s kind of annoying lol)

[@finalseko]

JoJo fans will do anything to be confused by DIO's coffin

[@heheheiamasuperstarwarrior9281]

How didn't dio die in the coffin? With 100 years of direct contact with wood he probably would've gotten a splinter, and a splinter is basically a tiny wooden stake!

[@doverboy1]

​@@heheheiamasuperstarwarrior9281 Vampires in Jojo are pretty different from pop culture vampires, the fact that jojo vampires drink blood from their fingers instead of their fangs is a great example.

[@rickastley5306]

​@doverboy1 that was an obvious joke

[@randommate3778]

he is so patient with jojo fans it's endearing

[@Chalepastel]

like a dissapointed, but understanding teacher

[@Uragaking]

It's a different story on twitter

[@destroyerkitty9434]

The thing that makes him so good is that he actually fully explains it in depth so misinformation doesn’t spread, he doesn’t just belittle the people who have the facts wrong.

[@remixtheidiot5771]

imagine this show 10 years in the future. "welcome back to araki forgot extras #69, where i will once again elaborate on a scene in part 9 that needed no elaboration if people just learned how to read."

[@chronic-joker]

he used to be more sarcastic and enraged reading this, being exposed to years of low iq comments most have made him used to it.

[@TrueTrickster2016]

Hamon Beat has a fate worse than Diavolo by correcting people until the end of time.

[@it6647]

0:30-How did Stroheim return to tell everyone about Joseph at the end of part 2? 0:58-DIO stopped thinking? 1:43-DIO minus oxygen 1:50-D'Arby's betting rules 2:26-Where is DIO's mansion? 3:05-Heaven's door making people fly backwards 4:16-Bites the Dust looping Hayato 5:41-Thus Spoke Kishibe's timeline 7:56-Using Moody Blues in the church to find Bossu's identity 8:21-Risotto figures out Doppio's identity 9:04-Fugo bites into virus capsule 10:11-DIO's 14 phrases 11:13-Reflections and Jail House Lock 12:03-Heavy Weather ≠ Weather Report? 13:45-Why didn't Weather's disc not get destroyed while being transported to a new universe? 14:19-Why didn't Emporio hide inside ghost room? 15:00-2 stand discs at once? 16:21-Fate under Heaven 18:30-Changes in Ireneverse 20:01-SBR and automobile 20:39-Johnny toe nail bullets in Hook Kid fight 21:36-Leaving the door open to negate Ozone Baby's pressure 22:49-WoU at Mamezuku's dad's funeral

[@imaeintellec209]

Hamon Beat won’t pin this

[@it6647]

@@imaeintellec209 they're mostly for my own reference, I tend to return to these videos from time to time

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

Nonetheless, thank you for this.

[@marleonka.]

Im gonna shoot myself in the head if I hear about Dio's coffin again

[@theonetruefusion8533]

@@imaeintellec209 they didn't ask?

[@SylentVoidkeeper]

16:18 I would also argue that Emporio is barely even controlling Weather Report at the moment anyways. He says as he's defeating Pucci that the ability of filling the room with pure oxygen was another ability locked away behind his memories. Were Weather himself there to control his Stand, he probably would be able to manipulate the oxygen in a way as to not affect himself, but obviously Emporio is damaging himself as much as he is Pucci, which is why he then uses whatever control he does have to attack him faster.

[@brokenursa9986]

I think there was also a mention from Emporio that the effects of Made In Heaven were causing Pucci to be poisoned by the oxygen much faster than he normally should have. Of course I could be wrong about that, and even if that mention is present, I don’t remember if it was specific to Pucci or a universal effect that was hurting both of them.

[@Whitesnake273]

Didn't Emporio say he wasn't controlling him?

[@escapefromtibet2530]

From a storytelling perspective, it's basically Weather taking revenge on his brother

[@ernestoirrazabal6594]

Yes, and Pucci tells Emporio to "stop Weather" like it was a different person "don't let him do this" he begs@@Whitesnake273

[@luciuseclipse]

Another thing about Hiyato writing the first loop off as a dream, not only do we often forget our dreams quickly, but when you do see something similar happen outside of the dream it can produce the same feeling of Deja vu. So any vague memories of the first loop would feel slightly strange at best and still be written off.

[@QuietBorb]

also ignoring the fact that hayato is an 11 year old who has no concept of a stand and thus has no bearing about the situation other than "holy shit a man just exploded this is pretty bizare, must be a dream"

[@ohcadin6590]

16:15 Something I feel like could be added her. The key thing about why Jolyne could only temporarily use Star Platinum's disc was because it rejected her, either because it was far too powerful for her or because something about her made the stand incompatible. Meanwhile, Emporio, in this scene, would have the capability to use Weather Report because he is fully dedicated to killing Pucci in this moment, which would make Weather Report compatible since that was a defining part of Weather's own resolve. The main reason I wanted to say this is because I don't beleive that tbe idea that "a person can only have one stand via the stand disc" is true, as people having more than one stand due to the abilities of other stands has been something that is known to be capable of happening since Cheap Trick. However, people have a limit to the amount of stand power of which they can have at a time. One of the main reasons that I beleives Star Platinum was placed with the disc's inside the tire, which to me seemed like disc's which Pucci didn't really care about, was because using Star Platinum required a high amount of stand potential due to its ability to use the power of The World, which was something that required so much stand energy/will that there was no bother even trying to find someone capable of using it. Then every other stand user that had multiple stands was because one of the stand that they possessed was one of a weaker will... these weaker willed stand being Cheap Trick on Rohan, which was formed because of the users weak will, and the Boiling Water stand, which I also view as a stand formed from a somewhat weak will. Then the case of why Emporio was able to use Weather Report in that final duel against Pucci was due to his greater will which arose from his desire to kill Pucci.

[@joannis46678]

Even before Cheap Trick, we had Anubis.

[@hatguy2254]

Honestly the first would be dio with Jonathan's body

[@inazumatan7050]

You have to also condsider that Emporio was not in full control of Weather Report at the end. The Stand automatically activated its effects and even Emporio was affected by the Oxygen attack.

[@ohcadin6590]

@inazumatan7050 Something funny... When I first learned about this, I was shocked... because that felt like something I should have remembered... like I've seen the anime, and read the manga (at least for the parts not covered by the anime...)

[@CrustyFox87]

This man’s dedication is honestly inspiring

[@vlc-cosplayer]

Maybe he's actually Araki's stand?

[@vlc-cosplayer]

Maybe he's actually Araki's stand?

[@angelorosso4871]

13:06 I always interpretted the shift in how Weather Report operates as being a result of him remembering the full extent of his abilities when he got his memory back, as before then his usage typicaly fell within a somewhat more typical usage with a couple of outliers

[@jonathanschmitt5762]

5:40 Reimi also said something to Kira about some things beinng so traumatising that you forget them, and while I wasn't on that trip, my mom went to a dripstone cave with my brother once and encountered a snake. She is very afraid of snakes, and while my brother said my mom screamed, she didn't remember screaming.

[@zoefarr2600]

From personal experience this is true: twice for me... ...the first time I was so drunk I don't remember kicking a womaniser at a party in the balls after he'd tried to chat up a friend while her husband was standing right next to her, but I do remember curling up on the grass afterwards and trying to sleep right there and then, before some friends carted me off to bed. The second time I jujitsu'd myself: I was supposed to do a chest kick to the guy who had "grabbed" my right arm but since I am hypermobile it didn't go well. I stepped too far over with my left leg, and when I went to sweep with the right one my balance was so bad my left knee went sideways instead of how it is normally supposed to bend; it was so painful I blanked out the next three seconds. The next thing I remember I was several metres away on my butt on the floor, instinctively cradling my left wrist. Turns out that I'd slipped out of the grasp of the guy with it being so hot everyone was sweating, and fallen in the direction of my 90 degree knee, landing on my left wrist. The X-Rays were fun as they showed that I'd broken one of my arm bones about an inch from the end, clean across and the doc said it was the neatest break he'd ever seen (so at least I didn't get a compound fracture). If I screamed I don't remember it.

[@leaffinite2001]

I kinda thought at this point theyd all be stupid, but there were a couple questions (mostly about part 6 admittedly) that I could see someone who had watched the actual show asking. They may be less mockable, but these types of questions actually benefit the community, since they allow people to understand the series better.

[@mrreyes5004]

On one hand, I agree that cementing genuinely good questions is right. JoJo's can still be somewhat confusing at times, especially the Fate-related shenanigans and the fact that some Stands only work solely from JoJo's specific cosmology. On the OTHER hand, though, stupid crap that we've already covered several times (like Heavy Weather) or really obvious ones that you could solve by just reading the manga (like Johnny OBVIOUSLY using his fingernails in his fights) truly do deserve the mockery for the sheer idiocy and illiteracy to still not get it.

[@it6647]

I swear there is a period of time where all the extras had some of the most ridiculous Araki forgots Fortunately that seems to be over and we can move to better Araki forgots

[@pandanoko729]

2:08 I don’t think this person was asking “Why didn’t Jotaro bet ‘with’ Dio’s soul instead of Holly’s” but “Why didn’t Jotaro bet ‘for’ Dio’s soul instead of the secret to Dio’s stand.” (Honestly, my guess is that they would need Dio’s consent to bet his soul which he would NEVER do or it wouldn’t be even enough as it would be 3 souls (Polnareff, Joseph, and Dio) vs the souls of 4 (Kakyoin, Jotaro, Holly, and Avdol). Either way, it would have probably just ended the same with D’Arby going insane from the stress)

[@Jarethttorney]

Not really a forgot moment but something interesting is during the Metallica v King Crimson fight Risotto uses many aspects of iron control, mostly for offensive means, rather then to also also protect himself, even with invisibility Epitaph could still see him. The easiest explanation is Risotto realizing that defense was out of the question after Doppio first punched the rocks.

[@mrreyes5004]

Yeah, the main thing to consider is that Risotto's metal powers aren't exactly on Magneto-levels. He can only access a relatively small amount of iron with his Stand's limited range, and he was fighting Doppio on a natural cliffside without any big constructs of raw metal (i.e. unlike a city area). Even if Risotto did try to form the surrounding iron into a solid shield or something, it would be a pretty thin shield that wouldn't offer much defense. Especially because, like you said, the arms of Doppio's Stand are clearly strong enough to punch right through.

[@centipedewarrior8966]

Thanks for being a good lawyer for Araki!!! Also thanks for making great clarifications! Keep up this series!

[@Zwill1208]

1:05 I also think its worth noting that being trapped in a coffin and the endless vacuum of space are two immensely different situations

[@trainershade1937]

9 Month late reply, but it's also worth noting the vast difference in the events leading up to both scenarios. Kars finally achieved his timeless goal, becoming the ultimate lifeform. Everything was "going his way". Then suddenly, his recklessness put him in a bad situation, one that he quickly realized he wouldn't be able to recover from, despite having everything. In the end, he ended up in the same position we first saw him in: a rather lifelike statue.

[@justinjakeashton]

@@trainershade1937 He also lost to a human he considered to be weak and useless. He kinda was. Hamon was all Joseph had and Kars had even stronger hamon than him without any training.

[@trainershade1937]

@@justinjakeashton Yeah, I was thinking of bringing that up too, but didn't because I couldn't think of a good way to tie it in to my original reply. Being able to somewhat say that he lost to Joseph would really add to his turmoil. Not only does he consider Joseph strictly inferior to him, but he also absolutely hates the guy. There's no respect between the two. Whereas if we go back to Dio and Jonathan, there was some degree of respect there. Dio could mentally tolerate a loss to Jojo.

[@DVDPlayer18]

11:41 The answer is what's known in psychology as "chunking". Informations are processed in the working memory as units of memory that can group together multiple units of information if they're strongly associated with one another. Think about the number "20". You can memorize the digits 2 and 0 or 20 altogether as a chunk. In this case the reflection triggered Jolyne chunking of information, cause a reflection is "one object" in the real world and this is the association of those multiple units of information

[@whoknows4077]

20:41 I’m 99.99999999% sure that what this person was really asking was why, within steel ball run as a whole, did Johnny only use his toenails with Tusk during the pork pie hat kid fight and then seemingly lose the ability to use them afterwords.

[@duncanchin]

I enjoy so much this videos. It makes me happy to see you are still making them and people still ask questions.

[@OfficerIDPD]

Hamon beat went from having to explain how fridges work to jojo fans to having to explain how dreams work to jojo fans

[@dancarter5775]

Let's not forget that during Pucci's battle with Foo Fighters, Whitesnake was actively pushing the water boiling disk into Foo Fighters, theoretically preventing the ejection.

[@Chrono-and-Co]

If araki actually forgot this much then he might've been under the effects of jailhouse rock

[@nqk_0662]

Good one

[@BorisBrigadeDoesStuff]

Though a typo, jailhouse rock sounds like a cool stand

[@Sir_Crocodile_Agenda_Pusher]

@@BorisBrigadeDoesStuffthat is the name

[@BorisBrigadeDoesStuff]

@@Sir_Crocodile_Agenda_Pusher no it’s jailhouse Lock but it was inspired by Elvis’s Jailhouse Rock

[@Chrono-and-Co]

@@BorisBrigadeDoesStuff jailhouse lock was the localized name for the dub,jailhouse rock is its name in the og/Japanese dub. It was changed in the English dub and the sub's subtitles to avoid copyright

[@Zetact_]

Heavy Weather is probably also something that could also be helped to understand by comparing it as a logical extreme of similar nature to Survivor, just way more noticeable and powerful. Survivor's ability to create electricity is something that causes a natural phenomena because of the body and brain being run by electrical currents, but the SPECIFIC ability of being able to make people unreasonably aggressive and violent that Survivor expresses is where the supernatural element comes into play. If you were to take people and constantly subject them to a 0.07 volt shock like Survivor, they wouldn't "normally" start fighting to the death, but the Stand takes that impulse and nudges it in that direction. People don't question, "Why does Survivor exclusively make people so aggressive they fight to the death when all it does is subject the targets to an unnoticeable electrical impulse?" because they understand how Survivor actually works due to it being less strange. Heavy Weather's "subliminal message causing a biological change" operates on a similar type of logic. Come to think of it, Part 6 actually had other foreshadowing for major plot-important Stand mechanics in some of the earlier battles that show that for some of the more esoteric Stands used in that part, Araki often might have a more simple version of a similar effect to explain how they function. Under World is similar in nature to Pucci's Heaven with how the "past" events that were fated to happen must fundamentally occur while the memory is unearthed.

[@fluffcake]

His wisdom is Infinite, knowledge is endless. Mad respect to his dedication.

[@Blurns]

0:58 - There is a creature called the sea squirt, which swims around like a tadpole, then when it's mature it anchors itself to a rock like a barnacle and starts to digest its own brain because it doesn't need one anymore. They're still technically alive, so Kars could have done something like that to himself just to keep from going completely insane.

[@THEDeathWizard87]

I still think that would qualify as “he stopped thinking”

[@Joy45s]

ty for making all your videos in part orders, i haven read anything past stone ocean, and you taking the time to organize things by parts is helping a lot avoiding spoilers lol

[@invaderzz]

Hamon Beat, I appreciate you including my comment at 20:41 about Johnny's toenails. However I phrased my question poorly and it came off wrong, so I apologize for that. My actual question was, if Johnny can use his toenails during the Wired fight, why can he not use them in later fights as well?

[@Iffem]

probably because it'd be harder to aim like, look at how he tends to usually fire his fingernails... he basically ADSes with his knuckles

[@lordfreezer5631]

He only uses them when he runs out of his fingernails. Remember that he is paralyzed from the waist down. It would be basically impossible for him to aim with his legs as good as he does with his hands. Also later upgrades of his stand help him overcome the problem of running out of fingernails in the first place

[@oddlang687]

Yeah, not sure if Hamon Beat genuinely misunderstood your question or was just being disingenuous, but that's the one thing I don't like about these videos, he always responds in such a condescending way like "I have no idea why so-and-so came to this conclusion" but often doesn't consider their question was poorly worded or misunderstood.

[@jonseon5952]

I assumed that Kira gets to remember only the first loop of Bites the Dust because he would never understand the ability otherwise. But Hayato gets to remember all subsequent loops because stand abilities inherently can't be perfect for the user.

[@lightningdragon666]

That is also what I always thought. Kira learns about the 1st loop as he activates it (Also shown by how he acted after "using" BTD during the final fight) and the host remembers the resets as they are the trigger now.

[@kotzpenner]

Would be interesting to see what (if any) normal humans have advantage in over stand users.

[@shinyagumon7015]

You know I see these less as "Araki Forgot" videos and more as a way to talk about interesting JoJo titbits. Also, not only was it aswered, but I would also guess that many competitors like Alt Stroheim were more familiar and therefore better equipped to handle horseback racing. They might also not have seen the use of automobiles since SBR takes place on rather difficult terrain that only horses could handle.

[@Zetact_]

SBR also takes place at 1890, which was when automobiles were, while at a state of practical use, still very much luxury goods and not widely available. It's well known that the first mass-market automobile would be Ford's Model T in 1908. Anyone who would want enter the Steel Ball Run with an automobile would need to already be fairly rich and even if they wanted to increase their wealth it might be generally more convenient to just hire a jockey. If SBR took place in like the 1920s there probably would have been a few more people entering with cars without thinking about the practicality.

[@maguc5906]

Jotaro and his wife got divorced. Why didn't Jotaro use Star Finger and Star Suck (Like he did with Justice) to keep his marriage from falling apart and please his wife?

[@lukes401k]

This is a real stumper

[@yuriynovytskyy7984]

Araki forgot...

[@bappling]

He is like the smart kid in class answering questions.

[@maccamachine]

Hell yeah a new video these are the best. It amazes me how there seem to be so many jojo fans who have zero reading comprehension or just don’t pay attention…. It would solve so many of their dumb questions I guess a lot of the fan base must be children

[@mrreyes5004]

Agreed. There are a few genuine questions here and there, but for the most part it looks like the "so-called fAnS" somehow miss basic facts that are DIRECTLY EXPLAINED on the manga pages themselves (like the car driver dropping out in Part 7 or Johnny clearly shown using his fingernails). Or even worse, when HB clearly explains something and yet the "FaNs" somehow still don't get it (because this must be the seventh freaking time that someone found an excuse to be confused by Dio's coffin, smh it is no nowhere near that complicated). Smh.

[@NikK0las]

The betting Dio's soul is so stupid because it implies people who ask that question think you can just bet anything you want instead of things you own or are about to own, like imagine going into a poker game and just going "yeah I bet the fucking Andromeda galaxy"

[@rexbot2749]

I cannot believe we are getting new ones of these still, i was just watching all of these this morning

[@Nebula-o4c]

Jojo fans: jojo is inconsistent Araki: this was an intentional retcon

[@firepuppies4086]

Also... With Dio being in the ocean, he may have more mental stimulation to keep himself compared to the vacuum of space. Where Kars can't even HEAR anything because, vacuum

[@Cinnamon_Rolls_Out_Of_The_Oven]

This series has essentially just turned into Jojo fans asking questions and him answering them

[@justinn8541akaDrPokemon]

Can't wait for part 10 (of this series)

[@i_have_nothing]

That'll be in the next 200 years

[@gabeabrio5578]

part 9 just started, there's only 9 chapters

[@hunoradam724]

@Hamon_Beat The fact that Hayato didn't notice the first time loop could have been him writing it off as a fealing of déjà vu.

[@UGeneolgia7700]

I’ve got to admire the continued patience towards people who very clearly just aren’t reading the manga, or even watching the show at all. Some of these comments are ridiculous, sometimes even missing the entire point pf a scene like with pucci and emporio. Keep up the good work!

[@nadroji6549]

One of my favorite series of yours glad to see new installments.

[@ofodaum]

🤖

[@nadroji6549]

@@ofodaum 🦾

[@Patrick-db6fc]

For the second one, I’d argue that you could say he was resting/ “hibernating” most of the time as his body was healing

[@JaxonHex]

I have to say, even though your most likely right about the sign, that would be cool that changes like that happen.

[@somerandomweeb4836]

This series should go on so long that the title becomes: debunking araki forgot extras part: I forgot

[@Nsanity216]

One must imagine hamon beat happy

[@DatDustyy]

I feel like the questions being asked are from 10 year olds who don’t read but I will still eat up 20 minutes of jojo content

[@diaborodevil3161]

At this point the fans are forgetting more then araki

[@skeepodoop5197]

Honestly, I think the thing so many people are confused about with the whole snailification rainbows is not that it isn't explained, its more the absurd leap from "here's subliminal messaging doing some pretty remarkable, yet reasonable things that can likely be explained biologically/psychologically" to "okay, now here's it being used to turn people into snails by making them believe they are snails."

[@montblancnoland4034]

How did josuke not crack his back when he hit that hands on hips pose

[@Thejackel79]

Thank you for explaining Emporio and him putting the disk up. That confused me for so long.

[@alucardsantradideus267]

I was just re watching the old videos for funsies and now there is a whole new video to watch, this is a good day.

[@ogopogoagogo]

An interesting topic you could tackle is breaking down why certain stands look and function the way they do (or just general fun facts about them). As for how wild and experimental stands can get, there is usually a logical through line on why they look and work the way they do. Whether it be taking a real world concept to an extreme (like Heavy Weather with subliminal messaging), it tying back to the stand user's past/personality, it just being a concept Araki just wanted to put to page, etc. Highway Star is a good example, it's main ability to absorb nutrients from others ties into how Yuya got his ability when he was bed ridden and thus he manifested an ability to help him recover faster. It separates into multiple feet ties into how it chases its victims along with-it being subversion of how the stand is literally the footprints it leaves rather than being an invisible stand. Even why the stand tracks people off of scent is a pun on smelly feet/feet smelling taken literally,

[@mechajay3358]

This videos should be strictly called "JoJo Fans Forgot" at this point Because some of these info is directly stated in the manga.

[@alfacinha9609]

Watching Vento Aureo, I noticed something: jojo fans can't think. There is no other explanation for why they have so much difficulty understanding simple concepts like King Crimson's time erase

[@lifesux1953]

A simple ability with many niches and things to nitpick. An ability that is intended to be difficult to understand is difficult to understand?

[@alfacinha9609]

@@lifesux1953 I don't found that difficult. Maybe I'm just too snob

[@lifesux1953]

@@alfacinha9609 I agree that the basic premise of: - small head let see 10 seconds certain - Nuh uh your own fate but you can't do anything is simple enough but then you get to. What determines "doing something". He can't touch people. He can't lift up things I believe. Yet his clothes stay on, and he's able to splash blood in people's eyes. He passed straight through some people and solid objects like the bullets but what's to stop him going through walls or falling through the ground. Why do the fats of objects remain unchanged yet he just doesn't interact weirdly with said objects. Is epitaph a projection or is it specific to his hair. If so, how was it able to project this vision to Bruno. How did the events of Bruno seeing his future self work. Why doesn't Diavolo keep throwing weapons if he's able to effect the fate of others without touching them. Is the breaking of terrain only for our view as readers/viewers? Etc. most of them can be answered easily but it's these niche points that cause confusion

[@Screw064]

As a fan of the series, I never thought I’d jus run into something like this. Jus a mf talking ab the series and going on and on. I can’t imagine the process behind finding out what you can prove but wow lol I love jjba and the fact that I can have hours of facts that won’t mean anything to the world but the most to me feels so fun to sit thru

[@mayac69]

I actually think Kira guessing that Hayato is on his 4th loop is meant to show that Kira is underestimating Hayato. In Kira's eyes Hayato isn't anywhere near as smart or resourceful enough to come up with a plan that quickly.

[@thepicausno5561]

I'm gonna be real I real all of Part 7 and I never once remembered him using his toenails as bullets. Looking at the images again it's really hard to tell that's happening, so I don't feel bad about missing it.

[@kirukuschler1876]

14:21 I MADE IT IM IN THE VIEDOS HELL YEAH MADE MY DAY

[@carl_smiley_face1396]

A Hamon_Beat AND xForts video in one night?! LETS GOOOOOO

[@tyrantking9000]

"Why didn't Jotaro bet using DIO's soul?" People assumed DIO had a fucking soul? Considering the amount of shit DIO pulls?

[@Fresh_Knight]

I watched your video on the new universe and it made me realize how come Emporio's mother isn't alive because Pucci no longer exists. The main cast's lives seem to now be unaffected by his original actions so should she be too?

[@Jacksontrooper777]

Probably

[@Carricx]

Just wanna thank you for answering my question! That was driving me nuts. It's interesting to see just how many times people can get confused by just missing a line or two

[@sictrix]

20:51 i mentioned this in a reply before commenting this but i'm fairly sure the comment was asking why johnny refrains from using his toenails as bullets after the wired fight. it would make sense for him to be able, since spinning the nails themselves isnt necessarily hindered by his disability, you would think it would be a viable enough option to be done more than once, even before he was able to walk again. this could just be due to the lack of ability to aim the shots but i could also think of many ways it could have benefited johnny in many of his fights outside of just plain shooting the nails.

[@MaxOlow-hp3gi]

Babe wake up, hamon beat dropped another banger

[@cjsdizzy]

Always love these videos dude 🤘

[@trigoyouramigo5973]

Hope u have a merry Christmas and a happy new year bro, u make genuinely good content,

[@jeremyroberts2735]

I haven't comment before so I will I love your videos my guy. Appreciate all the effort

[@trif3_599]

It’s crazy what reading and comprehension can do

[@swishyb]

i do think the arguement of "people can forget dreams almost immediately" is a bit unsatisfying when hayato only thinks it was a dream, when it wasnt :p

[@Jacksontrooper777]

I mean to be fair you could only hope it was a nightmare

[@swishyb]

@@Jacksontrooper777 yeah i mean i totally get not wanting to accept it as reality, but its a bit more of a stretch to me i guess that his disbelief actually makes him as if it wasnt reality yknow

[@CaptinHavoc1]

13:07 I mean the ability the way Araki describes doesn't really hold up to science, but ultimately that doesn't really matter. The ability works the way it does because Araki says so, and he took great care to explain why it works in his story. It hardly holds up to real scientific scrutiny, but if you're holding Jojo's Bizarre Adventure to deep scientific scrutiny, you're mostly just nitpicking

[@SuperBananaPete]

Babe, wake up, new debunking araki forgot vid

[@krabulon7575]

1:46 theres also a somewhat funny theory about this, we see in part one that Dio in fact can breath as a vampire, but also he is an inmortal being, so not breathing wouldnt be a problem, but extremely uncomfortable since you would have this forever feeling of drowning, but technically you couldnt die from it, so thats why Dio in part three, if we see the world from behing, we can notice an oxygen tank, probably hinting how Dio (since its the manifestation of its soul) is atleast just a bit traumatized from the feeling of drowning

[@alexrecrem9094]

JoJo's Bizarre Adventure fans when JoJo's adventures are, in fact, very bizarre.

[@olasham5113]

You need to combine all of your Araki Forgot videos into one 8 hour long video

[@generichumanbeing6691]

Araki forgot to make 1 bad part

[@joshuaihnat8478]

babe wake up new debunking araki forgot just dropped

[@mateusgreenwood1096]

I've actually seen A LOT of dummies suggest that "Rohan has the strongest stand because he could turn himself completely invincible or stronger than Star Platinum" despite Heaven's Door being only capable of influencing people and not changing how reality works nor giving them talents they never had like "Okuyasu having 300 IQ".

[@inazumatan7050]

>not changing how reality works nor giving them talents they never had This is not the case, as we’ve seen Rohan defy those limitations on several instances (1) He made Josuke fly away at high speeds to escape Highway Star and he used this ability to help Koichi escape the Ghost Alley. This demonstrates that Heaven’s Door can break the laws of physics and that the capabilities of the stands are not restricted to the constraints of reality. (2) In Part 5, Koichi mentions that Rohan used his ability to allow him to understand Italian. This implies that Heaven’s Door has the ability to implant new knowledge into its targets. The limitations are unclear but at the very least it would help Okuyasu learn more advanced concepts. Now consider how he wrote “Going to Hell” on Cheap Trick. Knowing that that statement must come true, Heaven’s Door either manipulated Fate to send Cheap Trick to hell or brought Hell itself into existence. These are all theories and what-ifs thought up by the fandom but these claims are not baseless and are built on demonstrable feats from the story.

[@ShawnBlaque]

Why Josuke didn't bet Dio's soul might be one of the stupidest questions in the series."Why is this guy only betting his and his friend's things? Why not his enemies things also" Ummmm

[@QuietBorb]

i feel like people mentioning hayato not "remembering the dream" seem to forget that as an 11 year old seeing someone fucking detonate in front of your eyes due to your actions is probably extremely traumatic and his brain would likely write it off as a dream due to how much of an effect it would have on his psyche if it was real ALSO IGNORING THE FACT HAYATO HAS NO IDEA ABOUT STANDS OR ANYTHING AND THUS JUST SEES A GUY FUCKING EXPLODE IN FRONT OF HIS EYES FOR NO REASON IN PARTICULAR WHICH WOULD 100% BE SOMETHING YOU WOULD SEE IN A NIGHTMARE

[@melancholygirl7793]

Hey, can you make a sequel to times Araki actually forgot? I know you say some in Jojo fun facts, would be great for a full video

[@it6647]

Well the times Araki actually forgot are minor and the main ones are timeline inconsistencies There are also corrections made between volume rereleases

[@melancholygirl7793]

@@it6647 Could make a full video

[@Tabulatelk15]

​@@it6647I'd watch a video on changes made between magazine and volume release

[@chronic-joker]

people disagreed with what he thought was a real araki forgot

[@melancholygirl7793]

@@chronic-joker Like?

[@catbeweird]

my guy fighting an ever long war against jojo misinformation and i love it

[@lando2213]

Honey wake up, a new Debunking Araki Forgot episode just dropped!

[@CadeDubsOG]

It's like people cannot accept JoJo as is but rather think it's a different kind of series all together. Stands do weird stuff because they represent their users psyche, which can be all over the place because of how deranged some users are. Just try and enjoy the ride sometimes!🤪

[@Hamstera477]

If any one is wondering the opening for hamon beats is called crazy my beat

[@matehiqu9905]

Dio Brand is a fire name tbh

[@longsocks7798]

5:18 FRANCIS CRICK MENTIONED NORTHAMPTON ARMY WYA??

[@FieryMeltman]

A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

[@gibberish2336]

My favorite jojo series from all the creators

[@mechchococh.4313]

Step 1. Ask yourself a question Step 2. Find clues & Solve it yourself Step 3. Ask other the same question Step 4. Compare the answers Step 5. Find differences then go back to Step 1 All jojo fans...actually, not just jojo fans If you love a series and have question in some aspects, these 5 steps is a MUST if you dont wanna look like an idiot.

[@VGamingJunkieVT]

Come to think of it, could Rohan use his stand like Whitesnake if he wanted to? Like write "My stand will eject from my body in the form of a disc"? Frankly, his ability is potentially broken, which explains why he didn't participate in many of the fights.

[@ChaosAngel9151]

There's limitations to what stands can do, by your logic why doesn't jotaro just use time stop for a long as he wants

[@VGamingJunkieVT]

@@ChaosAngel9151 Yes, but Rohan’s limitations are never really explored. He caused Josuke’s body to propel itself backwards at high speed so it’s not like it restricts supernatural forces.

[@ChaosAngel9151]

@@VGamingJunkieVT just because it's not explored doesn't mean it's not there

[@VGamingJunkieVT]

@@ChaosAngel9151 I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility, though, he managed to take away Koichi's eyesight which tracks with Pucci doing the same thing to himself.

[@bryanstombaugh2000]

I think the question about the 14 phrases was asking why DIO chose those 14 phrases specifically. I know that in the light novel "Oven Heaven", he says that he got the phrases from a lullaby that his mom sang to him when he was little, but maybe the question wanted to know if there was more to it than that. Like why those 14 specific phrases in that specific order.

[@lukes401k]

The Over Heaven novel isn’t cannon, but the reason why DIO chose those phrases specifically in that order is because who the fuck would say Rhinoceros beetle and other random shit multiple times.

[@bryanstombaugh2000]

@pinkzero281 HamonBeat did say that the phrases were meant to be a password of sorts. I just figured that with passwords, there would usually be some sort of personal meaning behind them. Especially for someone like DIO. But that's just me.

[@lukes401k]

@@bryanstombaugh2000 I do understand where you’re coming from. I think that Dio knew not to underestimate the joestars and made it some wacky bullshit so that no one could possibly guess

[@boisvert45]

What about that time ceaser told Joseph to quote do a flip unquote and the Joseph said tomorrow and never did said flip

[@wakkaseta8351]

Regarding the snail transformations making sense or not even with the explanation, wasn't the concept of your mind creating actual changes in your body established in-story back with Doppio and Diavolo's physical changes when switching personalities, or Josuke literally blinding himself with rage?

[@MysteriousTomJenkins]

Those changes were more minor like changing your posture or how you are acting or in Josuke's case he simply was too angry to notice Rohan's ability. Meanwhile the snail thing is an incredibly drastic change, mutating a person into a completely separate species just from subliminal messages. Even the examples of effects from subliminal messages were much smaller than what the Stand did. Making you hungry and adverse affects on your body due to stress is TAME compared to literally morphing you into a separate species. Honestly that ability is one I just really can't take seriously. It doesn't make sense with what is happening unless Araki legit believes that if someone truly thought they were a snail, they'd transform in real life. I recall a comedic video talking about Jojo where the person mentioned how Araki comes up with Stands by reading snapple cap facts and for Stands like that...actually makes it sound legit, like he read a random fact and didn't research how it actually works and just assumed subliminal messages could do anything.

[@leetri]

@@MysteriousTomJenkins It's not that he doesn't understand how it works, it's that he takes something that exists in the real world and takes it to the limit to make it fun and bizarre. You CAN influence how your body works purely through believing something (such as placebos easing pain because you believe it's a painkiller), so he just takes that concept and makes it extreme.

[@Duothimir]

​@@MysteriousTomJenkinsDiavolo wasn't just a change in posture, he literally changed physique and facial features.

[@wakkaseta8351]

@@MysteriousTomJenkins I don't know if I would call several inches of height and hair-length differences, gaining/losing muscle mass and freckles, and having completely different voices as just "changing your posture".

[@saelhernandez2389]

The very fact that there's over a dozen "Araki Forgot" videos makes me wonder if JoJo fans are collectively under the effects of Jailhouse Lock

[@TalkativeHands]

"Why did X not do Y?" Some 'fan' "X did Y, heres my sources. - Beats Like half of these questions. Lol

[@taylorramp31415]

I have a reason cannon that emporio ever once in a while while he's feeling sad will slip the weather disc in and talk to it

[@dancarter5775]

Also, isn't Orland the name of the gas station, since they're still close to Green Dolphin Street and its relatively secluded island? Green Dolphin isn't exactly close to Orlando, as the characters take over an hour to get to Orlando, and Cape Canaveral is about an hour away by car from Orlando(55 miles according to Google maps).