Radioddity REVEALS DB25-D Mini Mobile DMR Radio | First Look!

Radioddity has a new Mini Mobile DMR Radio about to be released which they are calling the DB-25-D. This is a small dual band DMR radio with 20W power output and a compact size. Let's take a First Look today!
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[@BernieT2122]

I was just browsing youtube. Minding my own business. Now, I've ordered a DB-25-D... It is all your fault. I take no responsibilities for my actions. I can't wait to try this unit out. This will be my first DMR radio. Great video. Thanks.

[@HamRadio2]

Lol works for me

[@Factory400]

This would be pretty interesting for a backpack hiking rig. HT's don't have the power and mobile units are too big/heavy and need large batteries. Interesting option.

[@HamRadio2]

This one is pretty light weight

[@jturning]

You can get mobile equivalent power out of an HT if you have a good beam antenna. Check out the Arrow antennas made here in Cheyenne, Wyoming There is also the Elk antenna or make a tape measure antenna.... I used my 4 element 2m arrow antenna up in the Sierra once from down below a ridge to get into a repeater well down in the Sacramento Valley. The positive about a beam is not only do you get the gain on transmit, but you'll also get it on receive making it better than just a mobile with power. From a high ridge in the eastern foothills I used the 5 element 70cm beam to get into bay area repeaters like I was local with just an HT all the way across the Sacramento Valley (used to live in NorCal before relocating to Wyoming).

[@Factory400]

@@jturning It seems like a pain to operate a beam antenna while hiking, but I have never tried. An omni(ish) antenna with higher power would allow operating while on the move, no need to deploy and aim an antenna. A beam may be nice when I am at a campsite and not trying to get somewhere.

[@user-bk5op8qi2p]

this is a few years after this video, I plan on installing this on my motorcycle mainly for the APRS function, power output and consumption along with size seems like it will be a good fit

[@jlday70]

I pulled the trigger, on this one already. It is perfect for the setup I am putting in the truck.

[@TheNoCodeTech]

ThNHR TeamReplay for the win! Great looking radio. thanks

[@AEMHI1]

Look forward to seeing your Go Box Build with this Radio !

[@Siskiyous6]

Since I am playing with APRS I can tell you this is an inexpensive option for analog APRS in a vehicle. Nice review Jason.

[@wxfield]

Just a few of the comments you made here helped me program mine. I know this isn't a programming video..but just some freeze-frames gave me clues about some of the information in the screens enough to figure this out more. I think I have APRS working now too..still new to the world of DMR however so that's kind of still a programming mystery.

[@HamRadio2]

The episode I made after this one is a programming video

[@johnbeatty7319]

Thanks Jason, look forward to an on-air demo. If you could comment on the CPS that would be great as well. 73

[@WJ0NF]

Hoping to see another video of this radio, operating in the field from this weekend. Have the radio in the cart but would really like some honest opinions on how it operates. Thanks for covering the new hardware. Much appreciated. WJ0NF, CO

[@RimdarRanch]

I'm thinking about getting this Radio for a mobile application to connect to my DMR Hotspot in the Bug-Out-Camper. This would be more convenient to operate than a Handi-Talkie.

[@jeffreyfritz5866]

I have the “sister” radio called by Retevis the RT73. It has APRS (at least in the menu system.) It has Promiscuous mode and that can be assigned to a programmable button. That enables a single button press to turn on and off Promiscuous mode.

[@Sparkfly88]

I was gonna say, this looks EXACTLY like the rt-73 just rebadged

[@joeframo3347]

I like it Jason I wouldn't mind buying that radio I think it's pretty cool it's got GPS❤ thank you for sharing it Jason and thanks to radiology❤

[@HamRadio2]

Thanks 👍

[@utube4rwb]

I just saw that Radioddity has uploaded a CPS manual for this radio. Much needed as the CPS is quite bit different from my Anytone radio CPS, especially in the way you enter zones, channels and contacts.

[@HamRadio2]

I have a video dropping next week about how to program the radio

[@utube4rwb]

@@HamRadio2 Great. Can't wait to see it. One question, have you figured out how to enable DTMF on analog? I can't seem to get it working on my local repeaters auto patch.

[@davidhowland6847]

Hey Jason thanks for all that you do! Your very helpful and easy to understand. keep up the great work!!!

[@HamRadio2]

Thanks!

[@joeframo3347]

Hey Jason I love that little radio it's very cool 👍🌞💕

[@tuckersimpson4442]

Very interested in this Radio as an upgrade and a step into DMR. Love the videos keep up the awesome work 👍

[@HamRadio2]

Thanks for watching!

[@ronc9743]

Interesting Radio. When I was first licenses I ran an ICOM IC-22A 10W mobile and had no problems needing more power so 20Watts should be fine for more of what I would use it for day today.

[@frankpeletz1818]

25 watts was considered high power back in the mid 70's

[@MDRShab]

Not sure if this would really go in a go box given it is only 20 watts, but I look forward to seeing what builds people make for summit on the air SOTA.

[@johnbeatty7319]

Thanks for doing this Jason. I'm interested if you think the power cabling will be sufficient out of the box and how you would rate the APRS capability. 73 - John NO0I

[@winstonxoom8310]

The promiscuous mode can be set from the CPS to one of the keys as an ON/OFF toggle. APRS via DMR works fine. I don't think I'm close to an Igate/APRS repeater to get APRS working. This is the same radio as the Retevis RT73 as far as I can tell - Jason please perform a quick test and press the keypad (DTMF) keys. Do you hear DTMF tones? My guess is no. So, there is no way to issue repeater controls with this rig (I.e link/unlink, some messaging, Echolink, IRLP, etc are not going to work) Even switching some DMR enabled repeaters will fail if connecting to them in analog mode and then trying to go into DMR. I liked the RT73 but been waiting too long for Rertevis to fix DTMF - now prefer the Anytone AT-D878UVII plus HT as my "mobile" in the car and HT outside.

[@SimonVK3XEM]

I am getting a mobility scooter and I will putting this on it for APRS and to use my AllStar node when out and about. I have already programmed the radio and it will display a wheel chair on APRS.

[@yakovdavidovich7943]

I just went to order one, thanks for the intro video. If the DB25-D works OK, it'll be exactly what I'm looking for for my car. I was able to use the $15 coupon code, but didn't get the $219 price. Granted, I didn't see the $219 price before adding the coupon code... we'll see how it all comes out :-).

[@ndoren]

It'll be interesting to see what their accompanying CPS software is like.

[@HamRadio2]

Yep, agreed. Working on that now

[@Joe-KN4IFI]

For a DMR you can't beat the price. Smart looking radio. I can't get over the size of these new radio coming out these days. They keep getting smaller and smaller. ;) 73 Joe

[@MeteoHautRichelieu]

Hi Jason, KYD CDR300UV does have APRS and GPS and 300k contact, same thing for R73, and this DB-25-D is just the same radio with their own branded name on it. By the way KYD is the Manufacturer for CDR300, RT-73 and DB-25-D, they all come out the same mold. They all have same features. On my CDR300 i had the 300k contact update in late April along with basic dAPRS. I did my first dAPRS testing in mid April thru a BM repeater. So no mather from which company you buy it it will to all the same thing. And Firmware are interchangeable so far. I have tested all Retevis FW on my Kyd and i soon as i see one from Radioddity i will try.

[@HamRadio2]

Radioddity is the one who updated all of those features and now the other 2 have copied them. And like I have said before, getting support from KYD and Retevis is challenging while Radioddity provides excellent support. Also dAPRS I don't really care about, any DMR radio with GPS can do that. I was more interested in the analog side so that the radio could communicate with iGates.

[@themasterhammer]

Looking forward to another video about this radio. I am definitely interested.

[@andrewpapadakos2807]

Thanks, looking forward to the next video. Would be interested to see what the power draw is on the unit while transmitting to determine battery requirements for a go box! Thanks again KC1ORZ

[@Brianflys]

If this does split band repeater this would be a great go box for a vehicle or "base station" at a camping area, run it off a rechargeable battery. 20 watts should hit enough repeaters wity a decent mag mount mobile antenna.

[@brianchandler3346]

I was saving up for the ICOM 2300H for my first radio. If this one does 2 meters I'll have to consider it due to that screen. If comparable I'd love to hear thoughts on which may be better for someone new.

[@HamRadio2]

This one is dual band

[@dwayne5530]

Is there a cup holder mount that this radio could be attached to? No bigger than the radio is that could be a non permanent solution with a mag mount or window clip antenna in a rental

[@HamRadio2]

I've not seen one

[@dwayne5530]

@@HamRadio2 I think I may have found something that work on Amazon. If you search Heavy Duty Metal AMPS Hole Pattern ELD Drinks Cup Holder Mount. The mount has holes in and I think the radio mount bracket could be made to work with it. Hope they update the radio firmware to take care of some of the quirks...I'm thinking about picking it up

[@natenz8748]

Retevis and Radioddity have just relabled the Kydera CDR-300UV as their own (Kydera manufactures the radio). APRS works on all versions of this radio also, so there is nothing special about the Radioddity version....you just have to make sure the Retevis/Kydera has the latest firmware and CPS that includes the APRS feature.

[@tonytorre9432]

Don't forget to turn on your Roger beep.

[@HamRadio2]

LOL

[@KB2RWW]

If it passes FCC certification I may consider it for my collection.

[@HamRadio2]

It has certification already

[@grant209]

Like Jefferey Fritz. I've had the Retevis RT73 version of this radio since January 2021, there is also the Kydera CDR-300 version to.. The RT73 has had a lot of teething issues since released. A firmware update had APRS on DMR added back around March from memory, the latest firmware update last month included APRS on Analog and upped the DMR Contacts from 200,000 to 300,000 contacts. Will be interesting to see how this Radio compares to the RT73 and Kydera CDR-300.

[@HamRadio2]

I've had the Kydera since it was new and got tired of fighting all of the bugs that were in it, which is why I never made a video about it

[@grant209]

@@HamRadio2 Yep, many have parted ownership with both radios due to the bugs and the CPS. I will admit, I think I've been lucky. I've had minimal issues with my RT73, and have only updated the firmware once since purchasing. APRS isn't supported on our VKDMR Network, and I've never had the facilities or need to use APRS to date. The RT73 was a good little DMR Radio under AUS$300 to get into Mobile DMR, but its the only Mobile DMR Radio I've owned, so I am considering purchasing a Alinco DR-MD500T to see the comparisons.

[@PixelPlateauEngineering]

Thanks for the review Jason! What's your impression on the front panel controls particularly the scroll wheel - does that work well? I had 2 Baofeng / B-Tech mobiles where if you turned the wheel even at a medium speed it would either go the wrong way or stutter back and forth without progressing. That made it almost impossible to turn the scroll wheel to change presets. It would frequently go the reverse direction 1 or 2 slots instead of forward.

[@cmritchie04]

Does it have Bluetooth capabilities? maybe connect a keyboard for the aprs....?Ignition control like the motorolas? able to connect an external speaker? How does it perform on the spectrum analyzer? Is it a touch screen? Can it monitor commercial trucking system(s)? Able to connect to a computer full time? VOX for SSTV and other digital transmitting?

[@nwfirearmsafetytraining6914]

Question: I belong to a SAR team in the Pacific NW. We rely on a large DMR network and some commercial frequencies (which are authorized/licensed on) VHF/UHF. Is this radio fcc part 90 accepted? It would be great to be able have it all in such a small radio!

[@HamRadio2]

This one is not Part 90, no.

[@TwstedTV]

I'm curious if this can be hooked up to a battery pack. and a very very very portable antenna and used that way to extreme portability. instead of using it with a vehicle. Even change the cable connector to a 45° connector to unbulk it I guess I have to wait until someone does that on youtube. 😉👀

[@cfjruth]

Sure it can be hooked up to a battery. Any radio can. Their website doesn't list voltage requirements, but typically radios are designed for 13.8V, +/- 15%. This radio is small, and nice and light too (just 2lbs), so paired with a lightweight LiFePO4 battery it would be good for backpacking. I think you're referring to a 90° (not 45°) L connector for the SO-239.

[@TwstedTV]

@@cfjruth Very cool, and yes I meant 90° you know how brain farts go Hehehe Sorry 😋

[@cfjruth]

@@TwstedTV I figured! No worries.

[@tarapos]

Good video, where can we buy the hat you are wearing in the video? thanks

[@hamradiotimes5586]

Nice review on radio. Any info on a codeplug for this radio would be great....thanks

[@MrD308]

I owned the Rt73 and it was junk. The biggest problems besides it being junk was the CPS was atrocious. I would love to see a side by side comparison of the two CPS packages and see how they compare in functionality. Is that something you can do Jason? Thanks.

[@HamRadio2]

What 2 CPS packages? I am recording another video about this CPS for this radio, yes.

[@MrD308]

@@HamRadio2 The CPS For the Retevis RT73 and the Radioddity. The CPS for the RT73 was one of the biggest problems.

[@MrD308]

@@HamRadio2 please let us know if you can name the zones instead of the default numbering.

[@utube4rwb]

@@MrD308 You can rename the Zones using the CPS

[@MrD308]

That’s great news. Thanks for the update.

[@wassman27]

I am thinking about getting it for motorcycle mobile. I have a large touring motorcycle that is dying for a ham radio.

[@thomaslearn1136]

Well, got mine today and it seems ok... the CPS software is really buggy though

[@utube4rwb]

I got mine two days ago. I fired it up and ran it off a 12 power brick and it runs just fine. The CPS was different to the point that it took me a bunch of trail and error to figure out how to program my local repeater but I'm working on it. This morning I noticed Radioddity has uploaded a CPS manual for the programming software. Hopefully, that will clear up some of the questions I have.

[@joeframo3347]

Yeah Jason I really like but can you talk on the regular hand bands with it if not use dmrs

[@TheWatcher469]

If it Cross banded?? it would be perfect for what i want in the shack.. I really just want a NON HT for DMR in the Shack.. BUT i also want a radio that will cross band...

[@AndrewWells527]

The preorder discount requires a code as well and can't use them both at the same time. Still a good deal though.

[@jacquesredmond]

Have you had a chance to dig in deeper with the Radioditty DB25 or the Retevis RT73 (same radio). I am hoping for another updated review. ;)

[@HamRadio2]

No, not really. I am planning to, though

[@jacquesredmond]

@@HamRadio2 I think there is a big interest in this radio due to the small form factor, gps and APRS, etc. I am not sure why many comment and balk at the 20 watt power output. We pay a LOT more for HT with only 5 watts. 20 watts with a good NMO antenna can perform quite nicely. :) I look forward to another re-visit of this radio from you. 73 Jacques Redmond WW1ZRD

[@HamRadio2]

@@jacquesredmond I agree, for what it is, I think it is good radio.

[@jacquesredmond]

@@HamRadio2 I think it would also be really interesting to see if there IS any difference between the two radios, and which one is "better" for whatever reason. Thx again, and your videos are awesome. Jacques WW1ZRD

[@MeteoHautRichelieu]

Jason by the way did you ever received you CDR300UV in mid 2020 as you were going to do a review and never seen any. Unless i missed it.

[@HamRadio2]

I got it but it was really buggy so I never recorded a video of it

[@MeteoHautRichelieu]

@@HamRadio2 ok Lot's of improvement since. By the way the DB-25-D is a rebranded Kydera CDR300UV same for Retevis RT73, Just got the confirmation from Kydera factory tonight. So with more and more peoples using it we will have a decent radio. I am going to try it out on the road for my vacation trip about 400km away. Will see how it goes with DMR and Analog repeaters on my trip. Thanks again for the Video. 73 Daniel VA2DG

[@michaelmarion2017]

Can you ask Radioddity when it will have an FCC ID of any sort? The Retevis doesn't.

[@HamRadio2]

As soon as they start shipping it should have certification.

[@KN4MDE]

I had a Retevis RT73. Not a fan, it had lots of issues right out of the box. CPS was horrid, radio overheated and bricked with in 30 minutes of unboxing. Hopefully Radioddity got those issues fixed.

[@davidc9695]

I just tried and you can't combine the presale discount with the Ham Radio 2.0 discount. One or the other. I'm interested in this radio but will wait until we see how well it actually works and how the CPS looks. I'm primarily interested in the analog and APRS aspect. Looking forward to seeing the upcoming videos.

[@richardcjay]

I bought a retevis radio that looked just like this last year. It was so buggy and did not work at all. Customer support was shocking. It put me off chinese radios for life.

[@rkaag99]

I'd like to see it on a meter. Is it really 20w? However even if it comes in a bit low, it seems to sip the batttery power and would still be strong than an HT.

[@HamRadio2]

I'll do that when I am showing the software.

[@jimmarcum7362]

Expensive for a 20 watt mobile, even if it does DMR. I am waiting for your 2nd video to see the output power and ease of operation. As far as using it in a go box, the difficulty of manual programming would be a deal breaker. Anxious to see how many MFJ watts this puppy puts out, and what is the amp draw on analog TX.

[@thomaslearn1136]

Only one discount code at a time unfortunately... I pre-ordered mine though! It was perfect timing as I was just looking for a dual band DMR radio for my car; as you know, there aren't many to choose from. Thanks for the heads up on the discount! 73 - Ki5OMW

[@northernliving2387]

Is that just an amateur radio? Could I use on both ham radio and my business radio license?

[@yakovdavidovich7943]

Just reporting back -- I bought one, it arrived, and it's working great. Got analog APRS working, though it seems to only accept an APRS path with one entry (i.e., "WIDE2-2" works, but "WIDE2-1,WIDE1-1" doesn't work). Also had no trouble with CPS pulling the settings down, merging in a CSV export from repeaterbook, and getting all my local repeaters in. Haven't touched the DMR stuff yet, as I know nothing about it (first foray with this radio), but that perhaps comes next. DE N5HXR

[@fransahm1956]

I already have DMR ... I call it "cellphone"

[@HamRadio2]

your "cellphone" requires a network of cell towers to work. DMR does not.

[@Brianflys]

Jason posts... We buy... Credit card puffs smoke...again...

[@kevinwerner1328]

Do radios like this and rt73 work well for satellite, cross band full duplex etc? I know those aren’t required but I hear that the full duplex on Kenwood th-d72 helps. Entering text looks painful. Can you do the old cellphone style repeating button presses on mic to cycle through characters 2abcABC?

[@Factory400]

Assuming the use of identical external base antennas....how much more reach does 20w get you over a 5W HT? How much less than a 50w or 100w radio? I know there is not an exact answer, but maybe a ballpark?

[@USAFJUNKIE]

Generally speaking on VHF/UHF, you need 10x the power to get 2x the range. (Assuming you're using the same antenna.) 20W should give you almost 1.5x the range of 5W... I'm rounding up a bit though.

[@daveN2MXX]

I'm interested to know how this compares to the Retevis, the appearance of which is identical and is actually slightly cheaper on Amazon

[@HamRadio2]

I mention that in the video. Radioddity has added some expanded features over the Retevis and also the original model from KYD.

[@daveN2MXX]

@@HamRadio2 Oh, awesome! Thanks, Jason. I already placed my pre-order. 73 de N2MXX NJ

[@WLgrad05]

My radio won't open the aprs type menu

[@AlphaCharlieFour]

I also have the RT73 I have been messing with the aprs on it and My th-d74 won't decode the beacon from it. My digipeater (15mi away) will decode it and digipeat it. When they make it back to the d74 from the digipeater it decodes it. however it just won't decode it directly. I think maybe the modulation is off because the d74 has worked with everything I have tried it with. I reached out to retevis to see if they can fix it. they had me do some things but it still doesn't work right. I wonder if you have tried the aprs beacon on this radioddity one to see how it decodes with other radios like the d74

[@DominicMazoch]

Agree. Need Anderson Power Poles from the get go.

[@joeframo3347]

Hey Jason can you use it on the amateur bands 2 meter an70cm ham bands?????

[@HamRadio2]

Yes, this is a ham radio

[@briankendall1978]

upload path "WIDE1-1"?

[@mroe34]

Does anyone know if this radio has extended transmit so that it will do GMRS in the 462.000 mhz range? Thanks!

[@kevinc9416]

Can it do business AES 256 ?

[@Chris-hy6jy]

Much rather have a full size rig with remote head!!

[@orlandferras1147]

Can you program GMRS freq?

[@riz94107]

You've got the radio there, seems like you could check if it has promiscuous mode or not.

[@HamRadio2]

I did check. It doesn't have anything with that name. But it seems to have that option under another name, but first I had to find the name of what they called it.

[@utube4rwb]

@@HamRadio2 According to the Manual there is a Remote Monitoring function that may be the promiscuous mode. I can't tell because I don't have the radio. I did order one though.

[@HamRadio2]

@@utube4rwb Yes I think that is what they are calling it. The manual isn't clear so I emailed Radioddity and that is how they explained it, but I have yet to test.

[@Penske_Logistics_Roseburg-Ore]

I really think this radio is JUNK, I have been programming radios for both Commercial and Ham Radio services since 2003. Mainly the Commercial radios and Repeater system and networking. But when I just got this radio today, I could not get the radio to talk to my computer on Windows 11, the Prolific 2303 was no longer going to work with windows. So, I had to force a fix in windows for it to work, once working it read the radio fine and yes, I got right to the programing the DMR. Wow this radio is a nightmare to program, had a hard time getting DMR to work and the group list set right. The Analogue part of the radio work much quickly than DMR as it had different Technetics in the way the program is set up. Al my last gripe about the little Radio is that it come with DTMF, but the DTMF will not work at all. I tried everything to command my repeater and it would not at all send DTMF tones and that is a deal breaker for me, I'm sending it back to Amazon.

[@mctscott123]

What encryption standard does it use? AES 256?

[@HamRadio2]

Usually, but check the website to confirm.

[@mctscott123]

@@HamRadio2 Yeah I didn't see anything relating to encryption on there.

[@davidfulkerson1187]

Will this do alpha numeric display?

[@richardmarlow8658]

Curiosity i have the Kydera model (The og i guess you cann call it) has anybody tried changing the firmware with the Retevis / Radioddity to get rid of the bugs and get a better working radio?

[@MeteoHautRichelieu]

Yes you can i am regulaly testing all FW from KYD and Retevis. Even received one FW from Kydera and once loaded in radio it the FW version Menu it was showing RT73....

[@KE8ODY-WV-Ares-Ham-Dad-3O4]

Dmr or hf first

[@sniperwolf1484]

Could this be used and work in the uk 🇬🇧

[@bev8200]

I’ve always been into radio but being a first time home buyer I have absolutely gone insane

[@DominicMazoch]

How many people actually use APRS?

[@nicholaschristodoulou5766]

How can you review a radio with out having a antenna plugged in and tx/rx on it Its like doing a gun review and not shooting it , just check out what it looks like and what's its ment to do Maybe im just being picky!? Could've run it into a dummy load and checked the rf output see if that was as stated .not to moan too much, like your your channel mate!

[@joeframo3347]

Jason shut up and sit down 😂😂😂😂

[@fdnyfish]

Can anyone confirm if it has promiscuous mode?

[@HamRadio2]

There is nothing in the menu or manual with that name. There is something called "Permanent Monitoring" that sounds like it might be promiscuous mode.

[@fdnyfish]

It appears the Retivis RT73 got very bad reviews. I’m guessing this is the same.

[@jahyder1]

Can it do GMRS?

[@HamRadio2]

No

[@jahyder1]

@@HamRadio2 so get the AnyTone 578UVIII PLUS? I have my GMRS license and I am newbie and bought a Wouxun KG-XS-20G and have discovered if I want to monitor my local PD they are on digital 159.105. So, I am now in need of a DMR and might as well go down the rabbit hole of HAM.

[@adamwilliams3247]

I think the cost is too high.. 179.00 for the retevis rt73. 300,000 contacts imo is not a selling point.

[@HamRadio2]

300,000 contacts *should* be a selling point because it will hold the entire database. But I am also told that the new firmware for the RT73 will update that radio to 300k also so you might look into that.

[@adamwilliams3247]

@@HamRadio2 What I meant was not for that price when. You can get the retevis (which has been out for longer) for less. Plus it really depends on how you plan on using the radio. BTW the tyt9600 I got from you on ebay works great! Thanks.

[@poli4869]

I guess it is OEMed from China, what is its original brand & model?

[@HamRadio2]

Not sure, it has been made for several companies. The first release was the Kydera model, which had lots of bugs in the firmware. When Radioddity got ahold of it, they made lots of changes and updates to it, which Retevis has now copied to their model that has been out for 8-9 months.

[@poli4869]

@@HamRadio2 Hmm, thanks anyway. I am in CHina, want to try digital radio for the first time, and Radioddity is not available here. and I know Senhaix 8800 has done OEM for Radioddity , so I guess maybe this model has a Chinese version too. :)

[@HamRadio2]

@@poli4869 All of the models are Chinese versions. The Radioddity version shipped to me FROM China. Hard to believe you can get them shipped inside your own country.

[@poli4869]

@@HamRadio2 the thing is Radioddity is not doing business in Chinese market , so no one is selling their products. :)

[@HamRadio2]

But it is still a Chinese version. All of them are. So surely you can find them there.

[@dean-ka0trl980]

Not good reviews on their web site. Mostly programing negatives.

[@HamRadio2]

I have a new video upcoming that shows the software and programming of this radio. It's a bit clunky but is certainly workable

[@ndoren]

Just seems like such an oddball form factor. Too big to serve as an HT, and no internal battery makes it less than ideal for hiking. It isn't powerful enough to compete with standard mobile radios, and it's too big to go where you'd install just a faceplate. I see it more as a novelty radio.

[@HamRadio2]

Not real sure why you would want to take a radio like this hiking anyway. When I go hiking, I don't want to use DMR or FM only, I was SSB, even if it is only on 2M. This would be great for a g-box or a motorcycle. In my area there are lots of DMR repeaters and 20w is plenty to hit them all. Or lots of people just use hotspots, so you don't need lots of power to talk into those.

[@yakovdavidovich7943]

I personally am confused why people care so much about power for VHF. I have a 50W rig I use for all my repeaters, and I never turn it up past 10W. I've never gotten a report of less than full quieting, even on distant repeaters.

[@ndoren]

@@yakovdavidovich7943 The power is nice for simplex operation. We have several simplex nets here. I'll take all the power I can get. 73 de W5NED.

[@news_internationale2035]

Many people do a trunk mount antenna and any more power can be dangerous.

[@IW2BSF-Rodolfo]

new model ??? is a simply RE-BRAND by the Kydera CDR-300 ! same the Retevis RT-73 other re-brand ! nice little radio but MORE BUGs and problems !!! Kydera not support and correct the more bugs ! 73 :-(

[@HamRadio2]

You are both right and wrong. NO it is not a re-brand, it is a FIXED model that removes the bugs that Kydera and Retevis didn't fix. Then Retevis copied the updates made by Radioddity and those models are very similar, but yes...the part you got right is that Kydera and Retevis provide little to no support. You won't have that problem with Radioddity.

[@IW2BSF-Rodolfo]

@@HamRadio2 ???? you are wrong ! this radio is made by KYDERA and re-brand by Radioditty ! stop ! 73 :-)

[@HamRadio2]

@@IW2BSF-Rodolfo Incorrect. The company that makes it in China made it for Kydera first and did a poor job of implementing firmware. Then Retevis copied it and did nothing to improve it. Now Radioddity has taken it and fixed lots of the issues and added new features to it.

[@ertonyrn]

What a nightmare of a menu system. No thanks