HAMZA TZORTZIS (IERA) ASKS SHAMSI (SP) ABOUT MUFTI MUNEER

Hamza Tzortzis opens a conversation with Shamsi about Mufti Muneer and Shamsi found an opportunity for further spread lies and slander, and a window to invite Hamza to his SP group.

[@malcolmali5148]

وَحَدَّثَنِي عَنْ مَالِكٍ، أَنَّهُ بَلَغَهُ أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏ "‏ تَرَكْتُ فِيكُمْ أَمْرَيْنِ لَنْ تَضِلُّوا مَا تَمَسَّكْتُمْ بِهِمَا كِتَابَ اللَّهِ وَسُنَّةَ نَبِيِّهِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ Yahya related to me from Malik that he heard that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "I have left two matters with you. As long as you hold to them, you will not go the wrong way. They are the Book of Allah and the Sunna of His Prophet."

[@ontario360vr5]

Its convenient that when Muneer leaves the UK, Shamsi starts running his mouth about the man but when Muneer was in the Park, Shamsi did everything in his power to avoid Muneer. Ttpical backbiting tactic

[@remembertruth33]

May Allah reward you immensely for showing us the truth dear brother!

[@OFA1819]

Problem for Shamsi starts is when he mentions Abu khadeejah as one of his teachers lol

[@1spiders1]

Omar Aziz yes at that point he loses all credibility and interest

[@BasherBadBoy786A]

Omar Aziz Abu Khadeejah is a nonce

[@thefeachaz]

I mentioned this very point in one of my videos. How are you, as an Arab, who speaks, and reads Arabic, a student of Abu Khadeejah???? Mind boggling!

[@thefeachaz]

@Humza Khan Hasty refutations and easily kicking people out of ahlul Sunnah. As well as wala wal bara'a based upon your allegiance to him and his cohorts. Type A hizbiyyah. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKa4iGluhJeciZo kzbin.info/www/bejne/baOyYomIrdqin5I

[@BasherBadBoy786A]

Humza Khan According to his evil desires

[@Mooshmomken]

It's obvious that Hamza is laughing in the inside.

[@deathstroke334]

Na, he isn't laughing... If anything.. He's crying on the inside at how much the cult of spubs have affected shamsi.. Because he's heard this madkhali idiocy rhetoric 20+ years ago

[@shucaybb105]

May Allah bless you bro, keep exposing the hypocrisy of these boys who have brought soo much fitnah to the dawah in the west

[@zeroo0186]

Yes please keep going

[@tamimsajid]

This guy shamsi is the most insincere person, we have ever seen. May Allah guide him (Shamsi) before he dies...

[@Alex21441]

Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa baarakatahu, Ya ikhwaan hayyakum Allah, this is the great month of Ramadan and we should look to benefit by seeking closeness to Allah through righteous action and I don't believe this video is an example of doing that and Allah knows best. What benefit does this bring? Has there not already been a video showing this same conversation?? How many videos have people put out there about SPUBS? Subhaan Allah, brothers claim they want this fitna to end but they then carry it on and it becomes tit for tat like people are trying to get the last word and from what is apparent it does not come across sincere. Whoever uploaded this video may actually be creating a platform for brothers/sisters to have their deeds during ramadan erased due to back biting and ill feelings to other brothers etc. This is serious my brothers Allahu al-Must'aan. If you feel SPUBS have been the cause of fitna then why continue it? May Allah guide us all to what is pleasing to Him and to aid us in creating unity upon the truth! Ameen

[@sp-files82]

Wa Aleykum Salam wa rahmatullilah wa barakathu Jazakhallah khair for your naseeha but will all due respect you don't seem to have a clue of who these criminals are. And what I'm doing is the same any Muslim should do when it comes to exposing the deviants from Isis and the likes of them. Spubs are actually more of a wolf in sheep clothing then any deviant sect ever seen, even more then the baatiniyya sect. Speaking out against them and exposing them is not something restricted for only after Ramadan season. If it was possible to reason with them and end the fitna they been creating then so be it but you're deluding yourself if you think that's possible. Barak allahu feek wa Ramadan Mubarak.

[@Alex21441]

@@sp-files82 Ameen wa iyaaka. With all due respect my brother, Baarak Allahu feek, I am very aware of what has gone on and this goes back along time! I have spoken in person and heard accounts from students who were in Medina when these tribulations started happening and the details of some situations are shocking as you may be aware. Akhee. I am taking the advice of Scholars who oppose the views of SPUBS and advised the students (even more so the layman) to leave these affairs as this fitna has gone on far too long. Did you know that Sheikh Muhsin Al Abbad a senior scholar burnt all the questions he received fro western students pertaining to this fitna. If the masheikh are leaving these matters to Allah because as you said there is no reasoning with some people and they the scholars fear the harm outweighing the benefit when continuously exposing these groups (and I don't deny some scholars have spoken against them mentioning people by names and of course there is a time and place for this). What if you exposing them leads to more fitna being caused my brother as you have many laymen muslims watch these videos, and that is the point I am making and Allah surely knows best.

[@sp-files82]

@@Alex21441 As salaam aleykum wa rahmatullilah wa barakathu Hayyak Allah my brother may Allah bless you. I completely understand where you are coming from and with all my respect to Allamah sheikh Abdul Muhsin al Abbad (may Allah preserve him) and others like him who give these beneficial advice, it would only work if the people actually took it. My brother the fitna is already going on and has been non stop for over two decades now. Trying to brush it under the carpet with sabr and husn dhan is way passed away long time ago. My humble opinion is that those ulema (with all my respect to them) because they are not from the west haven't really grasped the level of damage and deceitful tactics spubs are doing. They know something bad is taking place and that it's a fitna but to the extent it is Allahu Alem. I wish that these people took the advice of giants like sheikh Abdul Muhsin and others when they give it, that way lay men like myself wouldn't have to do videos like this. May Allah guide us all Salam Aleykum.

[@Alex21441]

@@sp-files82 wa Ahsanu Allahu ilayke ahkee, walaikum salam wa rahmatullah.

[@nurliah4355]

@@Alex21441 assalamu alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh, My brother, please tell me what is spubg is ? And what happen with brother shamsi and mufti muneer, ? I know brother shamsi is a brilliant person who has been a warrior in a speaker corner along with brother hijab, brother hasym, But I also know mufti muneer, is a scholar from madinah, that we have to respect, . If there is some difference point of view, why don't they just sit together and talk, I thought our prophet Muhammad shallallahu alaihi wasallam said that the difference between his ummah was as gift. It could be a gift if we always musyawarah,( talk each other ) to find the solution, and also to tighten this Muslim ukhuwah, But it could be a fitnah, if we just hate each other, spread hate each other, . . Why don't we learn from our imam that have different point of view about fiqih but never spread hate each other . . As long as the different doesn't touch the main issue about our iman, and as long as we are ahlu Sunnah Wal jamaah, we all are brother, The one that we should concern about shiah, that the common enemy that we have to fight. When we busy debating each other, our real enemy smiled and enjoy that we are being ruined our own ukhuwah . . . May Allah bless us in this holy mounth of ramadhan Love you all of my brother across the world, Love from your brother in Indonesia Wassalamu alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh.

[@malcolmali5148]

Salamu aleekum, my dear brother Hamza, it is not for you to ask these people for advice. It is I fitna for them if you do sow, it will make them think that they must very knowwwwwledgeable. I know you been humble my brother Hamza, but not with these types

[@picklerick3995]

Hes talking about personal advise privately

[@1spiders1]

They abrahamic faiths , milata ibraheem

[@davidkaradine5093]

Milata ibraheem ملة ابراهيم doesn't mean abrahamic faiths , I am an Arabic native speaker so I know what it means, mila means a creed and it's submission to Allah which means Islam bro .

[@1spiders1]

David Karadine it also means religion, The religion and way of Ibraheem

[@1spiders1]

David Karadine it mean the religion and way of Ibraheem alayslaam

[@p4ck576]

Ahlul Bid3a Elequent in Speech followers of their desires and take their own opinion over the Scholars 👍 too busy trying to score points lol Alhamdulilah for the Salaf we understand who Ahlul Bid3a are more than they think.

[@BasherBadBoy786A]

P4CK5 You’re talking about Shamsi and cult right??

[@epixtaroncracc4353]

@@leebzmr3612 akhi you. have to protect the honor of ur brother, avoid using such language?

[@alvinman8]

This shamsu hmmmmmm he should try to fight shaitan carefully

[@zeroo0186]

I love the guy so much brother shamsi however I think you right about this . He attack everyone even the people who defend Islam . I believe that his actions are wrong

[@karimshah8535]

Who gave sp authority to authenticate dawah in the west? All i hear and see you lot are desparate for people to follow u always fetching for mistakes as if Allah revealed to you to look for peoples mistakes. Sp do you a card that guarantees you jannah? Im sure you dont so stay in your lane be kind to people and they will listen to you i know people as soon they hear sp&co they dont wana hear they dont wana know even if the speech is good.

[@pollykerr7092]

we sane,intelligent,decent,thinking human beings who KNOW islam and the nonsense/bullshit it shackles weak minds with LAUGH at these brainwashed dumb losers who dribble their dawa to other gullible....evidently believing the nonsense islam feeds them, that an imaginary allah will reward them for doing so lol lol poor brainwashed dummies they are...to be PITIED

[@aboutthat1440]

Karim Shah, do you keep that same energy with the spubs? My guess is no. They are far more harsh and have been warned against by true Ulamah. Such as shaykh Wassiullah Abbas. My naseeha is that you don't be a slave to cult of personality. One way to tell is if you have ever disagreed with the spubs. I would also guess if you had they would come at you harshly. Regardless of any proof you had. I guess that because that is their mode of operations. May Allah guide us all to the straight path. Ameen

[@mohbubmiah955]

So Shamsi is mufty??

[@bustinjieber7521]

If it is impossible for allah to come down as a man to forgive mankind how can god be called omnipotent while he is limited in certain things? Omnipotent means having power without limits.

[@yahyahali8313]

Sir Macintoshthesecond Muneer said if god can “send a man” not “become a man” to spread the message

[@bustinjieber7521]

@@yahyahali8313 Ok but that doesn't really change my question though ;)

[@bustinjieber7521]

@@adorablecheetah2930 Fair enough. Thanks for answering though.

[@MrBebaslepas]

So basically it would be like from an entity who has unlimited power to become a limited one? is that even logic?

[@anass4109]

You do know that a infinite being cant change you know that right? If God becomes a human (which is impossible since God is al mighty) that means hè is limited and we know that a infinite being cant change and also God does not need to become a man does hè? Hè can also send his creation and via the creation to send the messege to all mankind Salam alaykum (may the peace of God be up on you :)