"HANCOCK is STRONGER Than RAYLEIGH" - One Piece TOP 30 STRONGEST DEBATE W/

The TOP 30 STRONGEST One Piece Characters list for 2021 is here abut with a twist because I'm joined by ‪@KingOfLightning‬
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[@kinGsaL1515]

We need a weekly hour long episode on this channel of just Brago and KOL talking One Piece! Like this so they make it happen

[@johannyamsy7438]

For real man. Their chemistry is crazy. Lets start a petition for them to have a podcast weekly

[@elfenliedlucy1281]

I'm looking forward to more of KOL's power scaling in 2022, he's the best worst when it comes to acknowledging character's strength.

[@Profitglutton90]

That’s actually a really good way to put it. The best worst lol I like it.

[@iudexe3103]

Remember judge top 5, lmaaooooooo

[@melbifk]

Unless it's about Sanji :D

[@cagedstuntmanpc2419]

When he’s on point he’s on point. When he misses the mark he really misses the mark haha

[@melbifk]

@@cagedstuntmanpc2419 was he ever on point tho?

[@Profitglutton90]

I demand more BDA and KOL videos. Their collaboration gives me life.

[@rke109]

IM SAYIN!

[@PritwishSaha]

Look at my comments.

[@pacifique2414]

Gives u life ? 🤣 i feel very sad for the person when I read comments like this , Jk or not 💀

[@Profitglutton90]

@@pacifique2414 if you don’t like it move on. Or you can continue to troll. It’s up to you

[@Moving_like_Berny]

Maaaan KOL exposed my guy BDA, shit is so funny. We want more

[@manny55taqos]

KOL: “I don’t know if Rayleigh has infused armament haki” -Rayleigh uses armament haki like a kame hame ha when demonstrating luffy that armament haki could be used in an offense way

[@iudexe3103]

@@qarcon3247 rayleigh probably slightly below roger, that dude is strong af

[@lostmarimo]

@@qarcon3247 he is downplaying zoro by downplaying the vice captain of roger. it is what it is.

[@m.phoenix1399]

@@lostmarimo thats actually what the case is. He knows zoro is the rayleigh of the strawhats.

[@KingKosuu]

@@qarcon3247 i believe of rn rayleigh is stronger than her but if she gets advance coc then she would surpass him

[@KingKosuu]

@@lostmarimo i would say rayleigh is comparable to roger simply because of he’s in story and was the 1st commander, if scopper was in the story too i would like to think there would be more a sanji zoro dynamic

[@uh.jadian2309]

1059 really made the name of this video have a diff meaning

[@bigt100]

The Rayleigh disrespect is WILD

[@logancharles3612]

I know right, Rayleigh is strongest Righthand in One Piece.

[@bigt100]

@@logancharles3612 litterly was he boxing with an admiral casually he's easily 1st commander level ATLEAST

[@HyakuJuu01300]

Anything to slander Zoro, it's king of copium.

[@ZZ-ex8py]

@@logancharles3612 my hc tells me its ryuma

[@aryantiwari4729]

Cope is just oozing out of his body.....Hyping up Oden and Gaban while shitting and downplaying Rayliegh.. 🤨..It's all there clear as Crystal...who you tryna fool Kol....😂😂

[@thomasmccabe1271]

I disagree with slot of KOL takes. Your saying rayleigh is only as strong as queen? Really! That's blasphemy

[@swagman2001]

KOL is known for saying some crazy shit stil love him tho 😭😭😭

[@lutherholayeahme7449]

Rayleigh high diffs Queen

[@thomasmccabe1271]

@@swagman2001 yea I do too. His personality makes up for some of the takes lol

[@stab7576]

Rayleigh is Yonkp level or close he low diff queens

[@tarikizgua1835]

@@lutherholayeahme7449 low diff or mid diff at best

[@billalzerouali4472]

The marco hate uncalled for man always fighting actual threats while other commanders like katakuri just statpadding vs fodder

[@dariuswilliams7509]

Kat doesn't stat pad he just eats donuts and chills blame his siblings 😂😂😂😂

[@AstroSully]

Fr

[@ReelRayman]

This video was a really good watch! As much as I disagree with some of KOL's takes, he makes the video really entertaining!

[@vistaxx]

Yeah i Agree synsei inc has a really Logically list i Can recommend it

[@august6281]

their laughters made it entertaining

[@dom2263]

Here for all the wild things KOL boutta say 😂

[@laquanlucas6953]

Facts bro haha 😄

[@barnabyssjones]

hahaha he’s insane i love it

[@ahmedj1254]

brago shocked me. katurkuri stronger than Zoro? I think that’s nutz. WCI Luffy stronger than Zoro. Enma + Conquers coating? zoro is a swordsman as well. He would have an easier time dealing with katurkuri than Luffy because he’s a swordsman. More of an advantage than fists against mochi.

[@amamihe6465]

@@ahmedj1254 What can Zoro do against future sight?

[@ahmedj1254]

@@amamihe6465 same thing he did with King, figuring it out lol. sam way Luffy did against Katakuri. same thing Zoro did against Mr.1 and Pica. figure out their ability and beat them at it.

[@bryarbrammer99]

The only one who damaged marco in phoenix form was garp. Kizaru couldn't do shit to him and akainu just pushed him away. The old man slander makes no sense at all.

[@chupaqueedeuva885]

We know that marcos df allows him to regenerate extremely fast that is why all of kizarus light beams looked like they were doing nothing at the start of the fight, garp attacked marco with haki so ofc it dealt damage but still marco was alright right after, but the longer the fight went the more we saw marcos regeneration deminish since kizaro with the same beams that he used at the start of their fight started to actually deal damage

[@Shark-hn4mv]

Yeah, no. Difference cases. Garp uses blunt attacks. Marco takes the full force and doesn't just have it pass through his body.

[@estebanbr7596]

That is not how his df works he is no logia, he regenerates

[@abdullahinasrudin2086]

@@chupaqueedeuva885 marco aint a logia he just heals attacks. Every attack does damage to him but he always regenerates haki or no haki

[@chupaqueedeuva885]

@@abdullahinasrudin2086 yeah, I know, thats why I said that marcos regenerations gets weaker the more he uses it, and that garps attack dealt more damage early on because garp more then likely used haki which makes attacks stronger.

[@eskayttp2532]

58:16 was said as a joke but its crazy how accurate KOL was with Luffy's Gear 5 and Awakening

[@roxas13keyblade65]

Bro it shook me 😭

[@michalvrabec454]

kol is usually cooking but not all the time@@roxas13keyblade65

[@redryujin9395]

To be fair to Kidd, Kidd also made Big Mom bleed, if you look closely, blood was flowing from the top of her head, This would mean a wound was opened up from the top of her head, external damage. Law only did internal damage, so that could not have been opened up by Law.

[@enanebres6481]

I believe that Kid and Law will defeat Big Mom this arc

[@MexikoM5]

@@enanebres6481 Idk I kinda hope they save big moms defeat for another time for luffy to defeat, he did tell her he would beat her ass all around the new world. Would make sense for him beating her

[@genesiscyborg3528]

@@MexikoM5 it would just drag out

[@Shark-hn4mv]

It weakened her body.... Law's attack was not limited to damage.

[@rafe100]

Man As a kid fan I didn’t even realise this but ppl will skip this over cause they don’t like kid and they think his attacks look garbage which isn’t the point when he’s been on the roof oda has clearly shown him being able to damage a yonko the rooftop supernova have gotten so strong than law throwing rocks hurt kaido but ppl want to complain about kids attack but they didn’t say anything about that and kid physical he is quite scary he basically the only on to show with physical force and not some ryou haki or enteral damage that he has the attack output to hurt a yonko just physical force it’s a little more than that since he can kind ignore you basic durability cause he is crushing you like a compactors kaido says it him self you seem to have found a way to get past my defence he even made bigmom bleed now on the outside no advanced haki just shows you his attack potency and any one else that isn’t top tier could be put out with kids punk crash

[@iz2904]

Listen. If garp and whitebeard are only a few years apart and the two of them were on par in strength in their primes plus the only thing holding whitebeard back was his sickness, not his age and he still did what he did to akainu, then there's no way in hell you fools can tell me akainu wouldn't have gotten smoked by garp at marineford. 💀 No. Way. Akainu was still a young buck to them at that point, punching way above his weight 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@ayke9288]

I think similar but Garp probably do that too often anymore because he is so old and all that haki sucks up lifeforce so he probably beats akainu because he is mad as fuck but he either dies or has no way to do that many more times.

[@Leeacademy2024]

No both his sickness and his age impacted his strength.... Its just that his sickness impacted it more than his age. Primebeard is arguably the number 1in the entire verse. He was in noway shape or form prime, not because of his sickness but because his time was up.

[@daligang1359]

@@Leeacademy2024 Prime white beard isn’t number 1 in the entire verse Rocks clearly is. Nigga had Prime Big mom kaido and WB on his crew.

[@daligang1359]

Stop the cap. Garp may be strong but he is no way near strong as he was in his prime. He literally stated himself that he could throw cannons much further in his prime and lost his touch. Admirals are just as strong as yonkos so Akainu definitely has all 3 types of Haki and advanced too. Garp may of damaged him for some time but Akainu wouldn’t of lost.

[@ayke9288]

@@daligang1359 i really feel like akainu is also a little overrated, ok he has a very offensively strong devil fruit but with the proper Implementation of haki a lot of people could defened better. Whitebeard simply got that damaging hit because with his heart attack whitebeard could not defend at all and akainu was ruthless and did it in the right moment.

[@TylersTakes]

For someone who prides themselves on "power levels"....KOL is really really bad at discerning power levels. The copium is strong within him.

[@enanebres6481]

That is what make things interesting

[@Forbidden_Chocolate]

this is why i stropped listening to KOL he's a clown

[@TheZubaz]

Hes not bad, hes just bias AF lol

[@admiralcon.doriano8026]

to be fair, it's not that easy to estimate the characters strength in one piece because many things are still unknown. we still have to see the true power ( or limits ) of the yonko and admirals. people jump way too fast to conclusions. thats why those power levels continue to shift back and forth.

[@aryantiwari4729]

@@Ptolemy336VV I Dunno about that....it's one of things kol is wrong about and agenda driven from the beginning.... So you basically believe/wants to believe that it's gonna be on that bullshit where Luffy should be far/tiers above from Zoro. Sanji should be close /equal to Zoro..It should be like your avg or general...younko crew...and pyramid system even if yc2 are never been portrayed to be close to yc1🤦‍♂️even if the story been telling you it's gonna be otherwise from the beginning that Straw hat pirates are different and will be Different "Put brago in his place".....😂😂 If there's a group I hate more than Zkk it's Mc Sexuals group 😒.Stop wanking luffy throughout heavens and earth ...there are gonna be characters comparative to him....Roger wasn't the only person at the Top eos....many characters were his relative and was on tier of strength....I can understand if you wanna say he edges them out a bit cool....but If you wanna claim he was tiers above then I will say you're blasphemous and living in your own Delusion 😂😂 especially if both Luffy's and Zoro's goal from the beginning to reach the apex and be best of the best.......But I can already smell the agenda.......as you also have the prblm with his Mihawk placement 🤦‍♂️😂

[@debonreepdas2265]

Wasn't it revealed by Oda that Shanks actually had a huge crew and the ones who arrived at Marineford were just the top officers? Cause that would really be a blow to KOL's Shanks crew supreme elite minimum mentality.

[@shubhthakur4176]

Shanks crew has been confirmed to have highest average bounties so Kol's view isn't wrong , shanks may have some allies but his crew is just those people (maybe some other but they're not fighters per se ) just like strawhat crew.

[@RobbyBoy167]

shanks crew might be the same as luffy. Those guys are the crew of his ship. Then he had other crews working under him.

[@HyakuJuu01300]

It was revealed as such. Those we saw at Marineford are basically his executives/lieutenants. His main crew(not allies or fleet) is actually much bigger, like the other Yonko crews.

[@enanebres6481]

I think Shanks crew just have 100-200 men. Thats little compare to Kaidou or Big Mom's gigantic army

[@debonreepdas2265]

@@HyakuJuu01300 I knew it. I had a feeling I read it somewhere.

[@jooyichen]

Zunisha gotta be in everyone's top 30 by the end of the year. I'm actually surprised no one considers him/it.

[@arieffarihin9844]

Zunisha 2nd commander level

[@avalac7412]

zunisha could literally one shot anyone honestly lol

[@Strawhat..]

Zunisha One Shotted Jack. He is Yonko level for sure. I don’t think even Akainu can one shot Jack

[@MetakJesu07]

@@Strawhat.. Damn, Zunesha did indeed obliterate Jack but let's not go too far now. Akainu could make a hole in Jack and kill him in 1 hit, so let's chill.

[@bonerpants7203]

If we include zunisha, definitely top 5. Casually one shotting jack is a crazy feat considering all it took to put him down in the raid.

[@KingHawku]

I have no words for these KOL and BDA conversations/discussions/disputes. THESE ARE SOME INTERESTING TAKES! They are amazing. Power scaling is a very interesting side of the One Piece community, and it really makes you think. As someone who’s been only reading the manga weekly for under two months now, this series has become so much more fun to experience through the various discussions, videos, streams that not only this channel, but many more have created. Being a manga reader is so much more fun then being an anime only. W Video. I honestly can’t wait for part 2.

[@KingHawku]

@@Kanemakii If you get too into it no doubt

[@JJ_loves_JP]

@@Kanemakii Buggy strongest character easy

[@enanebres6481]

Facts

[@genesiscyborg3528]

@@JJ_loves_JP no its Con D oriano

[@JJ_loves_JP]

@@genesiscyborg3528 actually it’s Gaimon

[@misterbk1791]

Hancock isn’t stronger then Rayleigh … she could be stronger but right now with what we know she deffo isn’t

[@jaycienlovelace3123]

For sure, people actually forgetting what kind of hype rayleigh was getting back in marine Ford, even if front an admiral they didn't think they could beat him without actual preparations and he's considered a legend just Like wb, boa is just two underused at this point to put her above rayleigh 👍

[@darquanjr]

@@jaycienlovelace3123 people are also forgetting how broken Hancocks power is tho. Anyone who feels the slightest attraction to her is affected by her power. This includes men women and animals. Her power should work on basically anyone in the series except for Luffy and maybe Fujitora. Most people would lose to her. She also has all 3 kinds of haki and probably a form of advanced armament.

[@jaycienlovelace3123]

@@darquanjr it's not like galands commandment doh, it's quite literally like foxy beam, it can be avoided if someone actually feels attracted to her, it's a strong power yes but it's not unstoppable or anything, haki wise we haven't gotten any significant top tier hype from boa to even have her in top 20 tbh

[@greywarden5513]

Boa’s power is Hax, you can say Ray can not be attracted to her or the beam can be dodged but she has shown the ability to utilize it physically and against inanimate objects(swords, robot/cyborgs) So it doesn’t even have to be purely strength. It’s her power set on top of her monsterous strength.

[@jaycienlovelace3123]

@@greywarden5513 yh her df power is dangerous, but rn in the story it seems that haki is the basic power systems that matters the most so we have to see boas mastery in haki first, we know this is rayleigh's specialty after all

[@KingKosuu]

everyone needs to remember that one piece is narratively power scaled so if a character we see back in marineford magically pops up and they’re giving zoro or sanji trouble when they got one shotted back then it’s not surprising

[@KingKosuu]

so if we see boa being yonko level don’t be surprised it’s just that she popped up later in the story

[@petermaciel2256]

This is the perfect video for my smoke sesh tonight Edit: I was correct, every time KOL gets hype about something I feel his Conqueror’s Haki

[@antonedatcher4897]

Bruh match a bowl 😭

[@barnedabeast]

Bro really just made me pull out the bong with this comment

[@benjim813]

Read my fuckin mind

[@antonedatcher4897]

Man this would be lit if it was twitter we could do that group chat shit 😂

[@Midplaysfordays]

Best comment

[@Abhishek-su7bv]

Sanji is very weak against boa because he will fall in love with her in 1 sec and turn into stone 😂😂😂😂

[@joelswilley7533]

As for Garp becoming weaker and being at half strength that kinda just hypes Garp, Sengoku, Whitebeard, Roger, Rocks, and Chinjao. Garp was still considered one of the two leading Marine men on the front with Sengoku when he retired. Meaning they we're over the admirals then and would likely stay above them for some time as they were asked not to retire. As for Rayleigh he was training Luffy up until he left so he was likely stronger then when or at least had more stamina than when he went for it with Kizaru.

[@joelswilley7533]

@ʟᴀᴢʏ 死 I mean when you look at Marco vs Garp vs Marco vs Big mom it's kinda enough said right there. Garp basically makes Marco fodder Big mom has to put in some actual effort against Marco.

[@KurokamiNajimi]

@@joelswilley7533 Wouldn’t go that far. It was only 1 attack. I would put Big Mom over Garp bc it’s never implied that the Marine counterparts of Pirates can win 1v1. Garp and Sengoku vs Shiki for example instead of just making it Garp vs Shiki

[@MIKEZMAJEK]

@@KurokamiNajimi yhh but we also have garp and roger vs rocks pirates

[@KurokamiNajimi]

@@MIKEZMAJEK I don’t think they 2 v the entire crew wouldn’t make sense because Whitebeard was there and he’s Roger’s rival so it would imply Roger way before his prime was somehow stupidly ahead of Whitebeard. But even with that even though he let Garp be involved he didn’t let him get the credit solo, intentionally making that a misdirection in the story. To be clear Garp is pretty high for me I still think he’s the strongest Marine alive until he’s shown to be sick

[@davidocansey1916]

Garp said he is using half of his strength with the Canon balls.... he is not weaker... dark king is no where near weak... kol is weak in the head

[@toponeroc]

I am not going to lie, these two need to have their own podcast lol Great chemistry and huge potential!

[@Fier07112]

Fact lol! Your comment needs more likes!

[@Jon155mt]

This is the top 30 collab we needed but didn’t deserve 🔥

[@find_the_truth]

Agreed. But KOL's power scaling is deserved, but not needed.

[@ScottyV23]

@@find_the_truth elaborate?

[@Jon155mt]

@@find_the_truth lol nah

[@tyrellparker9781]

Rayleigh just had to save Hancock lol

[@true-final-boss]

Don't sleep on Hancock. She's DaNGeRoUs!

[@Micheal93k]

Crazy how they disrespect Garp but Shanks and crew haven't done anything either.

[@daligang1359]

He’s disrespecting Garp because of his old age. Shanks is literally only 39 and a yonko so we can assume that he’s very powerful right off the bat

[@BMXK-jx1bi]

I don’t think doffy can control a biscuit soldier Bc like how is the string gonna make the biscuit move, Bc I guess I always thought that the string went into the nervous system and I doubt the biscuits have a nervous system

[@phant5667]

it just attaches to them and moves them manually If they could manipulate someones nervous system that would mean the strings enter the persons body in that case why not just choke out the heart

[@MetakJesu07]

It's only parasite string that attaches to living bodies to move them. We've seen that Doffy can also use strings externally to wrap around people and things to move them.

[@erlandochoa8278]

Bruh you think a marionette doll has a nervous system?

[@clydu91]

Man what why is this comment liked it's stupid as hell

[@BMXK-jx1bi]

@@bilalchiiino3423 that’s what I’m saying since it’s only one string going to the base of the skull that would make sense that it’s entering the body and just controlling stuff, it’s not too far fetched considering doffy strung his organs back together lol

[@mightylaser0000]

As far as doffy goes if he comes out stronger we can just say that his haki bloomed during his fight with luffy.

[@user-lc8xt2ru5s]

nah if thats true everyone would get stronger after a defeat? normal process would be they should have depression not getting stronger all of a sudden. doffy get stronger after defeat makes no sense. did brook get stronger after being defeated by bigmom? he didnt right?😆😆😆

[@l95027]

@@user-lc8xt2ru5s he absolutely did, he awakened his fruit when fighting luffy

[@dennisxiong7373]

@@l95027 bruh doffy was already awakened before Luffy.

[@RasLunacy]

@@user-lc8xt2ru5s I feel mindset after a loss means a lot... n I don't think doffy waa depressed.. I defs think he's coming back stronger

[@user-lc8xt2ru5s]

@@RasLunacy im not saying he was im saying he must undergo that process. if anyone gets stronger after defeat then everybody would prefer to lose to get stronger. even if this is anime it wouldnt make anysense.if someone grew stronger from a defeat it would be a mental strength but it will take some time and not all aspects gets stronger. hes been jailed for so long how can be stronger when hes not even training his body.he cant even move with sea stone chains. just pure common sense and that would be illogical writting if its true

[@Humesh.G]

Hancock surely has potential..just because there is no certain cap to her power yet

[@MonkeyDBoomE]

Law definitely has improved his stamina, but the difference between him and other top Supernova, I THINK, is that they were more physical than he was. He took on a more support role. He played the 'wizard' role for their team, mixed with physical attacks. He hung back and looked for openings. Law was lit.

[@silversauceran]

Law doesn’t need to be overly physical because he’s very precise. Mind you he’s physically strong enough to level a mountain range.

[@MonkeyDBoomE]

@@silversauceran I fully agree. My comment was specifically about them talking about his stamina and how he's still fighting, compared to the rest.

[@ericjohnson9136]

@@silversauceran that wasn’t physical strength tho. That was all devil fruit ability. He’s not leveling mountains without his fruit. Base strength Law isn’t impressive. Let’s not confuse had for strength 😂🤣

[@fenris5932]

Law on his own? really strong but not the best. Law in a group? probably top 5 guys in the verse. dude has mad utility

[@pitoseavy4523]

@@ericjohnson9136 what?? He was trained by the doffy crew 🤣he literally learned swordsmanship,martial arts etc… y’all be saying anything he’s only got low stamina because of the fruit 💯literally he wouldn’t be a fair character if he never got tired

[@_nivlek]

Boa definitely has armament coating since her subordinates do so it’s not a stretch to assume she has conquerors coating

[@kenyonmckee2268]

It is a stretch cause it hasn’t been hinted or shown

[@comfortfobee4615]

​@@kenyonmckee2268 it has

[@RaymondCr]

@@comfortfobee4615right. Marigold was confirmed to have Ryuo, sander hinted at ACoO, so it wouldn’t be a stretch to say hancock has ACoC

[@comfortfobee4615]

@RaymondCr Actually, it *KINDA* confirmed in a way that in a databook, it says that with Conquerors haki, Hancock is as strong as she is beautiful, which is the running theme in Amazon Lily and one can only be that strong if it's advanced

[@OkairMcLaren]

Hancock's stronger than a lot of people but she just has not gotten the screen time to show it

[@xMckingwill]

Or she hasn't fought someone strong enough for her to even start trying. 0

[@number7576]

Rayleigh could keep up with kizaru. He may be getting older but he certainly is insanely fast.

[@estebanbr7596]

But kol is right Marco did a way better job than Rayleight

[@Juswub80]

@@estebanbr7596 not really. Rayleigh landed a clean hit on him then they stalemated. Kizaru blocked Marco’s attack then they stalemated until Marco got hit by the lasers

[@rodneymcstah2973]

@@Juswub80 Rayleigh landed on Kizaru when?

[@tarikizgua1835]

@@rodneymcstah2973 he did a cut on his check in chapter 512

[@rodneymatthews25]

Kizaru said that they need at least 2x admirals to bring in the dark king

[@sageofsixpaths8392]

If you think about it Hancock could have been trained by Rayleigh so that makes her his student just like Luffy

[@laquanlucas6953]

That is very interesting

[@imawarrior3516]

Or maybe its shakky who train them!

[@laquanlucas6953]

@@imawarrior3516 ain't shakky might be from Amazon lily

[@XJSPlays02]

@@imawarrior3516 true but Rayleigh must have taught boa how to use Conquers haki

[@imawarrior3516]

@@XJSPlays02 well let say both shakky and ray😁

[@thirdymadio9323]

Useless Captain Mid had me dying XDDDDD

[@laquanlucas6953]

King of lightning violate Kidd trying say he mid tier

[@HyakuJuu01300]

Useless Cappin' Mid*

[@genesiscyborg3528]

KOL has some bone to pick with kid lmao

[@xvkremvx]

So, let me get this straight. Whitebeard, who was old at shit, who had a TERMINAL illness, who was literally stabbed through the heart basically half dead, almost kills Akainu at Marineford, but Garp, who is considered at the height of that generation along with Whitebeard and Roger, who DOESN'T have a terminal illness, who WASNT stabbed through the chest , couldn't kill Akainu??? KOL and Brago on one lmao

[@BeastBoy557]

He didn’t almost kill Akainu if he didn’t get knocked out and continued to fight all of wb commanders. You guys are weird downplaying Akainu.

[@BeastBoy557]

Whitebeard snuck up on Akainu and hit him with his strongest attack at that specific time and couldn’t even knock him out. Come on now

[@princedewin]

@@BeastBoy557 I get what you’re saying, but where did it say it was his strongest attack? Stop with assumptions.

[@estebanbr7596]

Come on akainu had to crawl away like a coward to barely escape with his life. You dont get to bitch out like that

[@BeastBoy557]

@@princedewin it definitely was his strongest attack at that time. He was sick and dying and he hit Akainu with everything he had left. His punch literally broke Marineford. I’m not saying his strongest attack ever but it was quite clearly his strongest attack at the time.

[@jacjun0592]

A conversation needs to be had about Oda is underutilizing Kidds devil fruit power. First and foremost he has the power of magnetism which is one of the main laws of physics and is involved in almost everything we do. Additionally he should have the same capabilities as Magneto from the X-men which would make him and his devil fruit truly devastating.

[@MIKEZMAJEK]

Exactly people always say “kids trash” but really it’s oda failing to write his powers properly

[@-Venemic]

Kidd is probably going to be top 5 most important characters EoS. When you tie vegapunk and his creations, the pacifistas, they're all made of metal. Nothing but Plot Induced Stupidity is stopping kidd from just crushing them like a coke can.

[@AfroNinja1242]

Bro I like that you referenced magneto Kidd literally should have one of the most OP fruits if we’re going off of how strong magneto is

[@clydu91]

Kid's character is a brawler and meathead, him using it "like Magneto" makes no sense character wise.

[@lstreamer4535]

Oda is afraid to open the gates of his powers and turn him OP as fk, so he's going to portray him as a basic-ish brawler

[@HyakuJuu01300]

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if King Of Copium said Alvida is stronger than Rayleigh and Don Krieg is stronger than Mihawk. The guy is just too far gone in his Zoro hatred, he lives in his own delusions. You know he's not gonna sleep at night when Zoro's bounty surpasses Sanji's at the end of Wano 🤣🤣🤣

[@simpward6810]

What does him saying boa is stronger than Rayleigh have to do with zoro or mihawk

[@HyakuJuu01300]

Do you really need me to spell out the paralells Zoro has with Mihawk and Rayleigh? He slanders those two and in turn slanders Zoro indirectly.

[@solomike4583]

There is a lot of "Copium", theories and opinions in the OP community. There is never official facts when you're basing things off something that didn't happen. At the end of the day its just a opinion. Wise up. As for the Zoro take, you might be the delusional one. You believe it's hatred because you want someone to give MORE appreciation than they already did. Judging from how you think, I assure you that he will sleep well at night. Instead you should worry about how to stop spreading false narratives.

[@rockylee3000]

@@simpward6810 don't let kol fool you he is paying 5D chess these days... It's impressive. He knows it's getting to be too obvious to outright slander Zoro, so he's gonna attack Mihawk and any character that has a similar relationship wherein their str correlate to zoro's. That includes characters that because of their fighting styles could potentially be seen as an indicator for how strong Mihawk and zoro may or may not be.

[@notamerican3964]

LMAOOOO you said you wouldn't be surprised if he said alvida is stronger than Rayleigh what's that got to do with Zoro 😂

[@sajpoj4242]

Did we forget when marco held off big mom for a period of time?

[@Divine..__..]

for half a second, did no damage and then got manhandled

[@HyakuJuu01300]

You mean she just slapped him around in seconds?

[@handsmcgee8331]

He was able to clash evenly with her for a bit offscreen (992-995)

[@tanmoypal11]

@@Divine..__.. woman handled

[@alifputrawan9565]

Nope. Marco is goated. His physicals matched big mom. Big mom couldn't crush Marco alone. She needs perospero to finish Marco off. She claims herself she didn't have enough soul weapons to spare on Marco.

[@realmencry981]

Lmao the funniest thing about KoL talking about Scopper is you can smell the Sanji agenda hidden in it when he’s tryna make his points 😭😂

[@henrykasenburg1115]

31:26 literally the same thing happened with Big Mom off screen but since she’s an emperor that’s where he draws the line with his agenda. It’s incredible to see how he flips

[@ctk2746]

Streets been waiting for this one, BUT I NEED THE REST LIKE YESTERDAY BRAGO

[@zayah0815]

Most people don't seem to realize the difference between when Kaido attacks Luffy and when Kaido attacks other people especially with thunder bagua. Kaido literally keeps aiming for Luffys head. Kaido even commented on gouging luffys eyes out. During the first fight kaido one shot luffy by aiming for the head. During the second fight kaido aims at luffys head yet again and grazed luffy. Zoro and Law did not take a thunder bagua to the head, they took it to the body. Ive noticed that Kaido keeps aiming for Luffys head throughout the fight.

[@santacruz2547]

I didn't realize and I checked now and surprisingly Luffys last loss against Kaido (the one he fell off onigashima) was possibly an attack straight to his forehead. Check Luffy head as he falls down onigashima and you'll see the big bruise or mark on his forehead. Kaido put a lot of weight on that attack that it's visible but people didn't see it Also kanjuro is the second to be aimed at the head

[@KingKosuu]

kaido tryna injure my boy for life 💀

[@kensuz]

Ever heard of something called plot ?

[@jagmbaksvshsh]

law and zoro tanked thunder bagua way stronger than luffy did. wano beginning and they were hit on their entire body with lightning leaking out which is more devastating

[@zayah0815]

@@jagmbaksvshsh the body can take much more damage than the head. If I 4 year old child jumped on your head it could knock you out or even kill you. If a fully grown man jumped on your body it would probably hurt but you'd be relatively fine for the most part. There is a huge difference between getting hit in the head compared to the body.

[@orasama6258]

The bda and kol collabs becoming my favorite type of one piece video

[@Teddy_Gautier]

I get it now. I thought it was a bummer that we didn’t get both of you guys in a top 30 stream or that you weren’t in each other’s streams. Now I see why. Good move 👍🏾🤙🏾

[@Ben-iz9ud]

Garp and whitebeard were both about the same Level in their prime. Old whitebeard was taking on marineford and put up a good fight with akianu, while being extremely sick. To me whitebeard is further from his prime than garp. You can't take any garp vs luffy as reference.

[@Samir-rd8xp]

and keep in mind whitebeard still put up a huge fight without being able to use haki cuz of his sickness, now imagine how strong old garp is since he still has his haki

[@madmoxxi7397]

@@Samir-rd8xp so you’re saying wb did no damage to akainu?

[@Samir-rd8xp]

@@madmoxxi7397 i never implied that😂 where in my comment did you get that from

[@emanchi8403]

Even if you ignore Boa’s CoC and insane physical feats, her DF alone is absolutely busted. One clean hit from her could be an instant win condition.

[@AwesomGuy971]

@Emanuel Ben Ami And do you realize that just because it works on Law's fruit doesn't mean haki will negate Boa's? Also, Boa is a conquerors haki user, whereas Law is not, and she is also the leader of an entire nation that specializes exclusively in haki. That gives her far better portrayal in terms of haki than law has. So, even if her fruit is affected by haki, her own haki would make it much more difficult to overcome than law's.

[@AwesomGuy971]

@Emanuel Ben Ami Law's "physcial feats" mainly are due to him using his devil fruit to bypass defense. Boa can do similar with her df.

[@spectretv8429]

I think boa is strong and everyone on Amazon Lily. Im pretty sure she has advanced armament haki. They were able to use it with projectile weapons which we haven't seen from anyone else yer

[@kittack7135]

“Her coating wasn’t enough do dent daddy” I’m dead 😂😂😂😂

[@samsmangang3684]

Kaido's top 5 is based on his experience and the Captains of a crew only that's why he didn't mention Rayleigh! Garp even compared Rayleigh to Whitebeard as they didn't have enough manpower to take on both the legends!

[@estebanbr7596]

Bro you sum those two up and get 100% of combat power. Then take WB out and you just took 99% of the combat power.

[@jamolbonaparte6908]

@@estebanbr7596 lmaoooo facts WB is wild as fuck, ill be generous and say WB is about 80%

[@hueyfreeman7184]

@@estebanbr7596 … that’s stupid as hell. We seen them take on Whitebeard, it’s obviously 70-30

[@abdulaziznasseralsaif7588]

There is no way in hell you think Rayleigh is close to a myth like WhiteBeard, no bro, the captains are not close to their right and left hands men AT ALL

[@samsmangang3684]

@@abdulaziznasseralsaif7588 that's your opinion and I respect that but it's far from the truth...

[@akerok245]

Hate to be "that zoro fanboy" but zoro being below katakuri is absolutely nuts.

[@jbh242]

I love yalls collabs. Feels like I'm chillin with my boys

[@360gunner]

Keep the KoL collabs up!! Every single one of these videos are fireeeee

[@shanks361]

Boa stronger than the “Dark King Rayleigh” the guy with every single haki known to man🤦🏾‍♂️

[@chirstopherakimichi1643]

To be fair, Boa prob has every Haki known to man as well.

[@TheGovernmentputcrackinmyblunt]

14:53 that luffy v doflamingo clash is still unmatched. I had chills reading that shit bro.

[@enanebres6481]

facts

[@solomonabioye34]

Bruh this has to be one of the most entertaining One piece convos y'all are hilarious.

[@Adam-us5dv]

I’m liking the back and forth banter. Together, you guys have something no other One Piece channel has to offer.

[@henrykasenburg1115]

You could also argue that Doffy was too exhausted which is why Luffy could break out of parasite

[@Aoun-Hussain]

KIng knew that zoro was being drained by enma He even said "I have never seen a swordsman being beat by his own swords"

[@estebanbr7596]

Is king more tanky than kaido on his invincible state?

[@Aoun-Hussain]

@@estebanbr7596 Yes

[@shacourbrissett9625]

@@estebanbr7596 I would say yes.

[@wallaceiseasy3459]

Brago we loving these collabs collaborations with Kol man. Love both of yalll

[@latima123ify]

The fact that luffy ran in the Katakuri fight after running out of Haki already proves his statement wasn't bs lol. He literally did it in the next big fight we saw

[@dariuswilliams7509]

I put respect on Katakuri name cause Luffy dragged him into mirror world but Luffy ran away first from the mirror world 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@KingVictor7]

@@dariuswilliams7509 Me too and I'm a Luffytard 🤣..

[@FTL_SAN]

Didn’t it state the Rayleigh and shanks were relative in conquerors. Why wouldn’t he have conquerors infusion. Does shanks not have it? Oh wait. He does.

[@premmandavkar2242]

KOL living in his own delusions. Yamato over rayleigh and garp. Its like saying oden if lived would be below yamato now.

[@FTL_SAN]

@@premmandavkar2242 right! And I feel like kaido was taking it easy on Yamato. The whole time he was trying to convince her to stop defending the people of wano. If he wanted to flat out kill her, why would he talk to her?

[@genesiscyborg3528]

@@evilmonkey9196 lol no he was right handman of pirate king at some point

[@genesiscyborg3528]

@@evilmonkey9196 lol no keep deluding yourself she is not gonna able hold back an admiral like rayleigh did in his older days

[@billalzerouali4472]

@@evilmonkey9196 no he wasnt ( huffing and puffing doesnt matter as zoro was huffing vs fodder)

[@spartakill0922]

K.O.L was tripping for a moment 😂 all in all Fun Debate tho

[@MugEdge8]

I love that I can leave this on in the background while doing reading about the world. Power up my mind, while I feed my joy. GG

[@amiribanks34]

These KOL Brago collabs been hella fire 🔥 And also hella hilarious the way niggas be getting clowned 😭😭 Always love to see 2 conquerors clash and def looking forward to the next chapter in this series, salute 👌🏾

[@alexanderpulido3666]

There's no way Garp, Rayleight and Sengoku are at 80% power level compared to their prime, I think they're around 50-60%. Don't understimate age

[@daligang1359]

Nigga where did you get these percentages from

[@alexanderpulido3666]

@@daligang1359 BDA LAw mentions in the video that he thinks Sengoku, Raileight and Garp are around 80% of powerl level compared to their prime, and I'm saying there's no way they are at 80% power level compared to their prime now, I'd would lean more on 50-60%, just like KOL mentions it in the video as well.

[@chadboy1515]

Dude big mom is 72 and is top 5. Garp is for sure top 5 right now. He was portrayed above the admirals at the summit war and was the last line of defense along with sengoku. Her has the title Of the strongest marine ever. He baby shake Marco without a struggle and Marco froze there like a bitch.

[@thomasmccabe1271]

Kol is off his rocker. Mans either got a few screws loose or is missing half his sandwich from his lunchbox.

[@alexanderpulido3666]

@@chadboy1515 I never argue about Garps position in the top, all I said is that ther'es no way he's at 80% power level compared to his prime, which was around when he had 60y, now he's 78. Also, big mom is not 72, is 68, 10y less than Garp.

[@imrjvzoldyk1694]

Why everyone is still sleeping on garp.

[@mightguy3118]

Akinu would destroy garp

[@TheGovernmentputcrackinmyblunt]

@@mightguy3118 akainu is top 7 though. Are you putting garp in the top 10?

[@imrjvzoldyk1694]

@@mightguy3118 like madara destroyed you .

[@mightguy3118]

@@TheGovernmentputcrackinmyblunt garp is in top 20

[@mightguy3118]

@@TheGovernmentputcrackinmyblunt Kaido >>>>>> garp.Prime boe Hancock >>>>>> garp

[@anuolakunle1487]

Man this king of Lightning dude is a very interesting individual

[@levig3576]

Just keep doing kol collabs forget everyone else these videos are the best

[@thunderbagua4074]

Ain't no way honcock was captured by koby right ?

[@avalac7412]

highly doubt they will even fight due to their relation ship too Luffy. on paper Boa claps koby anyways based off what we seen.

[@jamesonedwardsii4943]

@@avalac7412 we have seen nothing canon that would say Boa just claps Coby….. haven’t seen anything from either of them other than Boa beating Smoker who has been washed by everyone now

[@y1k3ss]

@@jamesonedwardsii4943 perfume femur magna

[@mightguy3118]

No way.Hancock would clap koby no diff, he's fodder

[@laquanlucas6953]

Coby is just going update her about the situation with luffy in wano for her concern. We all know coby not even match for boa Hancock

[@TheTyrrell12345]

Something im starting to put together: A second and third commander will have atleast 1 mastered ability/fighting style and atleast 1 form of basic haki. I want to say a second commander will have atleast 2 forms of basic haki but not enough information to say A first commander will have atleast 1 mastered ability/fighting style, 2 basic forms of haki and 1 advanced/broken ability, ie something you cant combat via brawling. Katakuri = future sight ( dodges everything ) marco = phoenix flame ( heals all damage ) Shriyu = Clear Clear fruit ( cant see him ) king = lunarian ( cant hurt him ) Not too sure about this one but it seems like Zoro = kings coating ( Cant block him )

[@zakariaorzak]

This argument is so convincing to me that I believe that if you haven’t cracked the code, then you’re on the right track. Of course, I could be wrong, but it is what I believe (for now, at least).

[@hiphophead4891]

This is dead accurate and as for zoro I think he should be in the top 15 because someone just dawned on me. Zoro pre CoC made Kaido dodge, tanked a combo yonko attack and scarred Kaido. Imagine if Zoro with Advanced CoC + a full powered Asura attacked someone.

[@zakariaorzak]

@@hiphophead4891 I agree. Yet, some people still want to downplay Zoro in the same vein that people want to downplay Sanji and it is, for some reason, always shocking to hear or read.

[@TheTyrrell12345]

@@zakariaorzak thanks for the feedback, I think this was kinda obvious in hindsight, glad I typed it out.

[@TheTyrrell12345]

@@hiphophead4891 on my list I think zoro is 17 or something, pretty close to 15 based on the criteria (he got edged out by sabo and greenbull)

[@Ccob0517]

Brago and Kol link ups are always his best collabs in my opinion 🔥

[@kelvincribbs5019]

great collaboration fellas. yall be having me dying. yall should do them more regularly.

[@scarr009]

The list so far: KOL 30. Queen 29. Lucky Roux 28. Weevil 27. Useless Mid 26. Law 25. Rayleigh 24. Boa Hancock 23. Garp 22. Yamato 21. Marco 20. King BDA 30. Queen 29. Boa Hancock 28. Magellan 27. Doflamingo 26. Weevil 25. Sanji 24. Lucky Roux 23. Kidd 22. King 21. Marco 20. Law 19. Old Man Trio (Sengoku, Garp, Rayleigh) 18. Zoro 17. Katakuri 16. Yamato Some wild takes here!

[@monsterduo4038]

The Kat wank automatically makes their lists/powerscaling invalid. Makes me wonder who’s the best powerscaler on KZbin

[@ZZ-ex8py]

Putting 3 characters in 1 spot is such a cop out, just leave Queen and Hancock off the list

[@calvinsimpson1301]

Absurd to have Kat and Yamato over Zoro. Completely ridiculous

[@kinginblack2845]

@@calvinsimpson1301 yamato is understandable because she held her own against kaido and is a more experienced conqueror coater compared to zoro but having katakuri above zoro is definitely ridiculous

[@angrymaniac53]

@@calvinsimpson1301 Yamato is understandable but katakuri above zoro is insane😂😂.

[@lubin509]

They should've made it so that kid can control the iron in your blood. Like a blood bending or sorts. It's OP but oda could make it so that he has to touch you physically a number of times for it to happen. And after he touches you the first time, the opponent starts to notice what's happening and tries to counter it. Something like that

[@empyreanserpent]

Metallica from JoJo has that ability and almost beat the main villain with it

[@rimurukenshi8145]

KOL collab is a whole series now😂😂😂 next episode pleassee

[@ismailbabatundebashiru6020]

It makes absolutely no sense to assume Boa has Advance COA but Rayleigh doesn't. He has shown the most versatility in Haki among the old guys.

[@kenyonmckee2268]

Yea idk why they keep assuming that when it hasn’t been shown at all.

[@fsinthechat7604]

58:10 bruh kol literally called it😆 bro that crazy.

[@tawchaentertainment1488]

I don't think the fighting for days thing should be taken serious or used in power scaling decisions. Marco could handle both commanders at the same time and even worn out he still easily countered king. I think what drained marco was him healing the entire live floor it both drained his stamina and his ability to recover. Zoro and Sanji had to watch each other backs at the start of the fight they were already getting pushed, Sanji blocked Queen swinging at Zoro and Zoro blocked King swinging at Sanji. Its hard to put Marco over Rayleigh because of what Old and sick whitebeard was able to accomplish and we've seen Rayleigh stopping Marco with a finger so Marco should do better but I think these zoan first commanders would lose to haki-based or more balanced first mates like Katakuri and Rayleigh.

[@dantecrottogini529]

yeah, if that was important Luffy and Kaido should fight for like 5 to 10 days or something

[@williamthompson5780]

marco was literally a child at the time

[@bilogskii2216]

Length of a fight has something to do more on fighting style/ ability rather than overall strength. Aokiji vs Akainu took days simply because their df cancel each other. Same goes for Ace's fire vs Jinbei's water technique. Meanwhile two samurais who are both offensive minded would immediately go for the kill so their fight might end up quick.

[@mattc4266]

First off Rayleigh stopping Marco is filler . Also katakuri durability is horrible it’s worse than luffy who got one shotted by Kaido and king has shown greater durability than Kaido . Marco was able to hold off king and queen cause he is a really skilled fighter but king wasn’t even injured .

[@tawchaentertainment1488]

@@mattc4266 So ur saying arguably one of kaido's strongest attack shouldn't have one shot Luffy ? Luffy directly took the attack hes a brawler and there was no way to counter, his devil fruit works on his haki and conqueror haki disables you and renders u unconscious Luffy couldnt defend with any haki at that point and his gear 4th unravel leaving his real body open to the full force of kaido's swing. If it was only a physical attack Luffy would have easily took the attack or even armament but Oda was showing the reader that there was something more special to conqueror coating at that point, it disables will power on contact unless u can block with ryo or coating or swords preventing the haki from hitting ur real body. Oden also got one shotted by kaido and the guy was a beast in terms of durability. Katakuri's durability is horrible based on what? Fighting for 11 hours with armament + awakening and a lethal wound to his chest, the wound that Kat had was not only the deepest cut we;ve seen apart from akainu blasting a hole through Luffy but not even Zoro was able to get a cut that deep on Kaido or King, yet Kat was fighting without much problems. Rayleigh stopping Marco is filler but it changes nothing, based on what whitebeard did being sick Rayleigh is at full health should still be more powerful than Marco , when Marco hasn't even shown anything to scale him to a yonko, Rayleigh has and therefore his decline should still scale him above Marco. Marco holding off King and Queen is more to do with his devil fruit than Skill , Marco's fruit gives him alot of freedoms and he hard counters King, yes he did little damage to King but King wasn't able to do anything to Marco on every showing. Oda shows us Marco's dominance against King, and by inclusion of those pages hes trying to tell us Marco was superior even worn out easily countered King's flame which are the highest point of his attack power.

[@laissezfaire4693]

That intro gets me going every time I NEED to download it asap

[@SILMANTV]

These collabs with these one piece KZbinrs are legendary

[@somekami3375]

“Impel down boost.” The audacity to give this man a Zenkai for being chained up lmao so I’ll have to honestly say the same too. Someone like Doffy can honestly plan up better ways to use his Devil Fruit. In a much more destructive way then before.

[@deante6506]

Well Aizen got a massive power up just from being bound to a chair. It's a shonen, a power creep is nothing new.

[@troillandford7679]

everyone gets stronger in prison lmao

[@somekami3375]

@@troillandford7679That’s the Impel Down boost for you lol

[@zeldris7222]

When it comes to Rayleigh and hancock Rayleigh was the right hand man of Gol D Roger the king of pirates that means he was stronger then all first commander and being that strong without a df is not easy that's why I think Rayleigh had advance coc and it also creates parallel between zoro and Rayleigh right hand man of past and future kings and as for boa it's not even confirmed if she can use ryou (Rayleigh can conformed ) let alon adv coc and there even hints about it and when its comes to df we know haki and stop or make is hard for df effect to work on someone not saying Rayleigh can avoid boa df ability completely but there is a way to do so that's why even at old age I think Rayleigh is stronger than hancock and

[@gonaedeath2]

You're using too many hypotheticals. Marco and Katakuri were kids when he was Rogers right hand so there's no way to know how he compares to them. Roger was Pirate King cause of his accomplishments. Not because he was stronger than Shiki WB or BM.

[@LostCrow1997]

People highballing Boa for no reason imo I bet money koby will beat her

[@Leeacademy2024]

Way too much headcannon. We have no idea how haki interacts with Boas fruit. Until proven otherwise we ALWAYS assume boas fruit will work on anyone bar people that arent lusting her.

[@poutineausyropderable7108]

Old age make you less lustful. That helps reyleigh imo. Not saying who wins. Just saying people don't take that into account.

[@daligang1359]

@@poutineausyropderable7108 my grandpa disagrees

[@kang1629]

idk why but every video bda makes with kol is so interesting to listen to, even though they’re so long, and i actually like that it’s super long and tbh i never noticed how long it is since i’m always so interested, i absolutely love these videos and want to see them go on forever

[@chrono733]

liked the collab i had fun ❤️

[@buggy369mb]

Theory Theory Theory Knowing he was close to death, Roger asked Shanks to sell him out to the World Government so that Shanks could gain the World Government's trust.. This might explain why Sengoku stopped the war when Shanks arrived and why Shanks was in a meeting with the 5 Elders.

[@kevindimas253]

Interesting

[@TheMedullaOblongata]

could explain why shanks cried after talking with roger, he doesn’t want the responsibility of having turn in his captain

[@abrahamkeleta]

lmaoo KOL pulling everything outta his ass 😂

[@someyeeterontheblock2421]

KOL was more right about the gear5/ awakening thing than he thought

[@tyygddfhfdds9146]

KOL needs to stop with powerscaling🤦🏾‍♂️

[@chrisp4643]

Marco stamina is impressive for what he was doing in Wano and even then he isn’t done. In a 1v1 with his regen defence and healing I can easily see him goin for days. Any 1st commander that’s not Zoro (a main character) doesn’t have a W against another top tier on screen so it’s not a good reason to downplay Marco for that

[@Sebastien1832]

I mean marco is currently fighting big mom in the anime, I think that in itself is a W for him.

[@KurokamiNajimi]

@@Sebastien1832 He did that in the Manga too ppl just overlook it and downplay him. They started talking in chapter 992 and we don’t cut back until 994. He K.O.ed her souls and matched her physical strength which is why she asked Peros for help and then ended the engagement saying she didn’t want to continue without her souls. Some say Zeus was out bc of Brook but Brook only did 1 attack and we don’t see Zeus again until the fight. Prome yeah DF advantage. But Nepo has 0 excuse and if he wasn’t out that still makes Marco look good bc then she has him instead of just herself and still ran away. Not saying I think Marco would have won I think it’s portrayed she’s above him but it’s an underrated feat of Marco’s Oda loves this dude lol

[@admiralcon.doriano8026]

@@Sebastien1832 that's what i mean. marco is fighting big mom currently yet we all know he is not on par with her.... when those commanders fought the admirals at marineford everyone said ''ThEy ArE oN pAr''. ...... fighting against someone for a short time doesn't mean they are on par!!.....

[@handsmcgee8331]

@@KurokamiNajimi It’s actually 992-995. They both leave unscathed not goin all out, from what happened I feel like Oda tried to show that Big Mom is clearly stronger obviously but Marco can hold his own and give her a tough time respectably, if they actually fought for real.

[@KurokamiNajimi]

@@handsmcgee8331 Yes

[@cvox607]

And entire hour of nothing but kol powerscaling...now that's cinema

[@plorfils42]

I love these chats, two Yonkos of the community chopping it up

[@faizmahe7412]

I love this back and forth its poke me and my mate we argue for days on these things

[@cipherP9]

I would have Yamato & Boa close to the same ranks because I haven’t seen enough from either. Also for me, anybody who uses Coc coating has to be ranked within the top 20, so Garp, Rayleigh and possibly Sengoku has to be ranked higher. That “old” argument doesn’t work because we’ve seen Whitebeard destroy Akainu, so Rayleigh & Garp without a doubt in my mind could beat Admirals, they don’t even have health problems unlike Whitebeard.

[@jcblazer0470]

Nah Yamato already has decent feats.

[@shacourbrissett9625]

Bro no. Yamato already has *phenomenonal* feats. Boa is still an enigma.

[@gottakeepaneyeoutforselene4539]

@@shacourbrissett9625 Agree. We are yet to see Boa's upper limits. Among the warlords, she's the most difficult to powerscale.

[@Rex20000]

You also have to consider the fact that just because a character uses an op attack, ( when we talk about kaido using thunder bagua on law and such ) they could possibly just not have used that attack at its full power or at as much power that theyd use against someone else. Either to coneerve energy or just that they felt it wasnt necessary. So law couldve just gotten a weaker bagua. comments your opinions

[@gonaedeath2]

Kaido said he was annoyed with Laws powers so I doubt he held back

[@xarmanhsh2981]

Law used his fruit who cares

[@PathIsntReal]

“Law could’ve gotten a weaker bagua” the mental gymnastics here is crazy. 💀

[@Rex20000]

Nah yall slow af

[@the_lonely_winner2956]

@@PathIsntReal 😂😂😂

[@Vinlan.D]

nothing 'dressrosa' doflamingo does can hurt queen

[@josemora8708]

You guys are amazing, the chemistry here is undeniable!!! Can't wait to see a rematch in 2022. Greatest top 30 video/discussion!!!

[@Psychoweeb222]

Also there’s a contradiction in King’s argument.. so if Marco can fight Kizaru for an extended amount of time & Garp sent Marco flying like it was nothing, dealing a lot of damage in the process and shocking Marco, why would you rank Garp so low?

[@daligang1359]

Because he’s old. He’s literally past his prime thats the argument he made while ranking him that low. And I agree. Sure, he can damage him a couple of times severely but Marco is still young and extremely powerful especially with his fruit he’s mastered.

[@Psychoweeb222]

@@daligang1359 yeah I get that but he didn’t recover, like at all from Garp’s attack as seen when where he got hit was bandaged after the war ended & he fought pretty evenly with a first & second commander of a Yonko .. I’m just saying based off that one feat alone Garp isn’t to be slept on even to the least bit even if he’s old

[@manuelogunleye4882]

Trueeee