The GameCube Controller Build Of Your Dreams - More Details Inside

[@lefriki123]

If this works out, I'll be buying one without hesitation.

[@LAST1GGK]

Hard same - 4 actually 😂😂

[@F.R.G317]

Same here I'll buy atleast 2.

[@Haseltine333]

Same!

[@codycraft8426]

100% getting one of these. not only because this would be an amazing melee controller, but because I can use this for other games too. You really outdid yourself, this is amazing.

[@MitchCairns]

Thank you!

[@legattacks]

holy smokes this just keeps looking better!! my jaw literally dropped when i saw the sub notch calibration feature. notching is such a niche skill and being able to have hot swappable gates and it be accurate every time without hours of work is INSANE. modders everywhere about to get their pink slips - but for the better. putting the moding power in the hands of the consumer. LOVE THIS PROJECT

[@siringc]

I love how easily replaceable any of the parts are, and the fact that you can just use any original GameCube controller parts or print your own since it's all open source.

[@quiethours1818]

Love this! Snap in analog trigger pots would be a HUGE game changer. I recently had to purchase a bunch of analog sliders from kadano - his are a little stiffer but you get SUPER accurate readings.

[@lucaspec7284]

there's a GYRO ? this is even better than i thought it was. Literally my dream controller, definetly getting one. between the modern bluetooh connection, the original gamecube/n64 adapters, the high level of customisation both in hardware and software, the fact there actually are analog triggers, and the freakin' RGB lighting, this really is the ultimate gamecube controller. Just small question, does the n64 adapter have rumble pak functionality ?

[@MitchCairns]

Yes, N64 mode supports rumble

[@SuperTopmaster]

Even better, a twitter reply noted that the gyroscope design is based on Alpakka controller, which utilizes two gyroscopes!

[@InterstellarLord]

@@SuperTopmaster Now that you talk about Alpakka controller, is it known what is the polling rate of this new gamecube controller?

[@MitchCairns]

@@InterstellarLord Depends on the mode. GameCube mode will be dependent on the game. XInput polls at 1khz, Slippi mode 1khz, Switch mode 125hz. Many of these situations are capped by the host system.

[@InterstellarLord]

@@MitchCairns Ok, thanks

[@LKNear]

Goddamn this is literally what I've been hoping Nintendo does with a Gamecube controller update and more. I really hope this project goes smoothly if it does I am def getting one

[@christopherhill659]

This is looking absolutely solid. Every little detail has been considered and taken care of. It's objectively going to be the best GC based controller on the market with these features. I'm so glad YT actually recommended a useful video for once when it showcased one of your videos on this the other day, I've been following since. Already have an alarm set for the kicktstarter as well!! Thanks so much for your hard work and dedication to this. The progress updates are really appreciated in these vids too. Also, love the colour combo in this vid, I hope there's some good customisation options with shell colours in the kickstarter (if it's not too much to ask)!

[@wiIIiamfancyson]

Incredibly excited for this product, and I'm especially impressed with the app calibration and customizability. Having a second z-button is awesome, but I would love to see the z buttons come in default purple. Excited to see gateplates with wavedash or firefox angles. For how true this controller stays to the original, it is a little odd that a transparent default control stick is a stretch goal. Dual rumble and gyroscope is very cool as well. I'm a little scared that I don't have a price estimate yet, but I'm hoping the kickstarter will be at a discount. This is totally a by the people for the people project, it feels very considerate of the consumer

[@MitchCairns]

Upper end price would be $135. We haven't shared anything on it too much yet because it's subject to change and I don't want to let anyone down with a wrong price. It will be determined soon

[@mr_knowledge_]

would absolutely love to see this project take off. I love the nyxi warrior but wouldnt mind spending just as much or even a little bit more for something locally made with more modular access to replacement parts. LOVE this design, attention to detail, and the passion put into this.

[@MitchCairns]

Thank you I appreciate that a lot

[@dragonsnackproductions]

Backer here..... I am so happy the Kickstarter was a success! Can't wait :D

[@diego23418]

This is so well thought out and so impressive

[@HandHeldLegend]

Thank you, I sincerely appreciate that. -Mitch

[@badgiefplaysbadly1362]

I am super impressed every single time that you've managed to introduce a great version of a feature that everyone wants, *and* somehow kept things compatible with old parts or versions of things. It's such a hard engineering constraint yet you've managed to continuously thread the needle on *everything* with the GC Ultimate. And the areas where you break with convention make sense, such as the thumbstick caps obviously needing to be different for different kinds of stick modules. Reading and seeing the development on Twitter and Discord has been an absolute blast. A+ product development through and through.

[@MitchCairns]

Appreciate that a lot. I feel the same way. In the end, I'm really making the controller that *I* personally have wanted for a long time. If I can share that, awesome.

[@andreiignatov2138]

This has the potential to become a huge operation. I'm praying that some controller manufacturer reaches out to you so that this will be massively widespread. The only thing that would be even better is support for original sticks, since then no one could complain about anything.

[@MitchCairns]

The whole point is to NOT be bound to some other corporation or manufacturer. I understand the sentiment of what you're saying, but it's not going to go down that way. More to come on stick designs later

[@Atsuneeee]

the music choiceeeee ❤❤ Wintergatan is such a nice musician

[@MitchCairns]

I love Martin, a creative powerhouse

[@Atsuneeee]

@@MitchCairns he isssss

[@deathkillr11]

I feel like this needs more eyes on it. This is everything I want in a controller.

[@MitchCairns]

Appreciate that enthusiasm ^^ a simple share on instagram/twitter helps a lot. Thank you

[@BLOODY__FATALITY]

I personally don't mind whether or not there is splitpad or not. I don't think it'll hinder anything for me. Honestly I like the idea of the extra precision if anything since the gamecube d-pad is kinda small and a secondary thing you don't use regularly. I never found the original to be very precise so if anything I believe the split pad is a welcome addition and I can't wait to feel it. 👀

[@4mytech]

i already have money set aside to back this im super hype for this good job i cant even imagine the work you have put into this keep up the good work

[@GeorgetownVideoProductions]

I can’t express how happy I am, hoping the kickstarter will go through. I’m a competitive melee player and also mod controllers/phobs/etc.. Everything seems great man coming from a melee guy. If this controller gets going melee players will flock to it. Everything is replaceable, Great analog sticks and swappable mechanical digital triggers and analog. The app looks great as well. Looks better than a fully modded phob atm and I will definitely donate my friend. Thank you for doing this. Also it’s great it’s open source as well. I can guarantee you if it gets going well melee players will pay for wavedash/firefox notches if you were to sell them somewhere down the line. Sorry for the tangent but honestly I’m so stoked!

[@ssjayy-xs5lh]

Your Kickstarter looks amazing. Looking forward to your progression!!

[@Curseofdragonguy93]

I haven't heard this wintergaten song but as soon as I heard the music I recognized it as wintergaten. Nice too see it's out there in the wild on some custom gamecube controller video

[@tpulse2713]

I’d love to buy one, but don’t trust kickstarter due to a bad experience in the past. If this becomes available elsewhere I’ll pick it up immediately. Super cool!!

[@MitchCairns]

I completely understand. Thank you!

[@baldina943]

wow, much love. Last year i almost considered doing a project similar to this and omg it is so amazing to see fellow techies taking advantage of their skills and resources to make great products like this! much love! cant wait to build it

[@goobee6230]

buying this instantly

[@CTIPrecision]

Wow, impressive build. Definitely an inspirational project. Great Job!

[@iElementalHa]

Bro this controller is it... cant wait to support

[@NayruSSB]

This is incredible! Truly the ultimate GameCube controller with its calibration options! While I do appreciate the right stickbox being replaceable, do you plan the same for the left stickbox? The left stickbox seems to be soldered on and not everyone knows how to solder in case replacement is needed due to wear and tear. Also, having easy access to the stickbox internals for cleaning and re-lubrication purposes would be great but I know that's beyond your control. Outside of that, this is the best thing I have ever seen for Smash. I will definitely be backing this up!

[@Pabmyster]

This is so dope, holy crap. Can't wait!

[@VKsChannel]

Looks great, But I'd love to see mecha tactile buttons like the latest gamepads in the market perhaps you could add the pads on the PCB so that if the user wants to he can buy the microswitches (I recommend kailh mouse switches) and solder them to the board and then just by adding a different membrane we can have mechanical buttons as well!

[@HandHeldLegend]

I have implemented a small connector on the newest iteration of the PCB to allow swap-in of different button contact types.

[@odelindodelgadomonteiro8605]

@@HandHeldLegend Is the swap-in possible without soldering? Also since this controller is a ''pro-controller'' are the L & R trigger buttons seen as ZL & ZR by the switch when in regular/pro controller mode? I'd like to know this when using the controller as in some games ZR&ZL are default buttons for shielding/shooting/aiming and not L & R.

[@ShadowOne333]

Are you guys going to implement a fully sized D-Pad option for the GC Ultimate controller? I feel like that's one of the key downsides of the original GC controller, and it's something I never liked about it.

[@inactive-eba]

Looks great, will hopefully be my first gcc for melee coming from a box. I hope your kickstarter goes well

[@Nayel-Khouatra]

Thats incredible congrats!

[@TheUndersigned]

This looks like it could be really awesome

[@TakumiJoyconBoyz]

I love almost everything about this except that we can't port over the GCN stick caps, especially for the C-Stick. Wonder if I could make them fit by filing down the internals of the cap or something.

[@HandHeldLegend]

I've seen people do just that on Pro Controller. Should be possible. Also remember it's one of our stretch goals to produce said sticks :)

[@TakumiJoyconBoyz]

@@HandHeldLegend Glad to hear it! I'll definitely give it a try when I receive mine, as I'm definitely going to back it either way. Also, thanks for replying.

[@GeraldBlackstar]

Man this is looking so good, totally backing when its up! Only thing i could want is a black PCB option.

[@alexanderlane7863]

I am not sure if I am going to play melee with this thing, but I will absolutely want to play literally everything else with it.

[@juancarlosalvarado2722]

en el otro video justo hacia el mentario de los hall effect triggers, pero la solucion del pcv para un facil cambio, verdaderamente esta muy bien pensado, claro que voy a comprar uno cuando salga

[@MetalLegacy34]

This is such an exciting project, really looking forward to getting my hands on one! Out of curiosity, what was the thought process behind the right stick gate being octagonal? I get a changeable one would increase complexity and thus probably cost, but I’d imagine people who want a round left gate would want a matching right one

[@HandHeldLegend]

Basically it came down to complexity of that specific spot, and wanting to stay true to the original shape. It made more sense to leave it as is, and just call it a day! So far it seems to work great for most games :)

[@Atlas-em1mo]

​@@HandHeldLegend hey I was wondering what could be done about a carrying case to protect the controller because current molds wouldn't be compatible. Would you be able to provide a 3d print mold for a recession in a protective case?

[@windwakin]

Yup, I’m buying multiple

[@libertyjones3799]

This looks incredible! I rarely back kickstarters (I'm a broke grad student lol) but I really hope to support this one. I am a little worried about the pause buttons for use in pause buffering; they just seem like they are positioned awkwardly for that particular use.

[@epicon6]

The coolest thing!!

[@efradigmr1567]

Well, I suppose that now I am a fan of your work

[@Amoshuryu]

I WANT FOUR OF THESE AT ONCE

[@shrimpony]

This is now the third new gamecube controller kickstarter. Will it come to fruition this time? I hope se.

[@toolinedc]

Just bougth some stuff from you, had to cancel twice then finally ordered 😂 but yeah, i thought you were in the UK.... don't ask me why lol but i'm in Canada so when i found out you were in the US i was happy lol just started modding Gameboys and stuff. 🤘

[@Partyboi_XT]

spectacular gimme 14 of em right now

[@MitchCairns]

OK

[@Creatively_Bored]

So after hearing that you'll be using the TMR Sticks from Gullikit, your calibration software gets around the issues of emulator & PC compatibility that's been observed with the mod kits that Gullikit provides for the Switch Pro Controller? My other question is that for the PC Mode, will games recognize analog triggers?

[@MitchCairns]

Our calibration software is a completely custom thing and you won't have the same issue. XInput mode works with the analog triggers

[@CrumbCCM]

You might have already mentioned it but have you stress tested the sticks for snapback issues? I didn't see any digital snapback capacitor so I was wondering if it might come with one just because it doesn't seem like they are manually tested just because you said in the video that not all the sticks will be the same calibration (If that makes sense). Edit: I find searched the Kickstarter and found there is filtering built into the software.

[@HandHeldLegend]

There is an automatic digital snapback filter in the software ^^

[@surfingraichu7594]

I love this❤ if the gate could be made with 16 notches instead of 8 it would be all I ever needed, I don’t want cheater notches I just like the smoothness while still knowing where I’m roughly pointing.

[@HandHeldLegend]

The gateplate is fully open source and printable

[@tolateFB]

This just popped up on my feed but I love the fact you're using wintergatan music!

[@MitchCairns]

Martin is incredible, hope to see his marble machine concert when he gets to it XD

[@skimmilk2774]

More concerned about the dpad now that youve compared it to the one on the joycons, but I still plan on getting one. Ill give you my feedback once its actually in my hands.

[@javi994]

It works with the OEM dpad

[@astumpyzombie8120]

Love this I can’t wait. Release 16th of September! lol. Let’s goes! I’ll buy definitely a couple for sure!!! Let’s get this going guys! And support them! Got my vote yes please! ❤

[@BLOODY__FATALITY]

I'm very happy this is solder free so a normie like me can purchase and assemble as many as I may want without having to ship off to someone who can solder like I have to with console modification kits.

[@3cc3n]

I'm interested, but the GC shell doesn't seem to match the OEM shell quite right. For example, there doesn't seem to be a pronounced circular bump centred around the "A" button like on the original controller. Additionally, the divot around the D-pad is soft instead of having a defined edge like the original. Are these differences planned to be addressed? If so, I'll back one immediately!

[@MitchCairns]

There is a circular bump around the A button. Paint and clear coat, and my crappy lighting here definitely don't help to exaggerate that detail (but the files are on github if you wish to examine those yourself) Same goes for the dpad comment See for yourself here: github.com/HandHeldLegend/GC-Ultimate/blob/master/CAD/STL/TopShell.stl Full info, this shell was based on 3D scans that are open source on BitBuilt forums. Changes have been made where they need to be made, or where scanning accuracy was lacking. Hope this helps! Appreciate the feedback

[@SamCampbell]

This looks great! Excited for it

[@NaughtyBear1337]

THE Controller ill ever need.

[@abjoern]

This is so cool! A couple questions (for the use case of only ever playing on gamecube/wii): - is the battery needed for the rgb if it's plugged directly into the console? - will there be an elegant way to remove/disable the left z button (such as including a cap that can't move, or one you can print yourself) - do oem sticks fit (gray and c-stick)? I'd assume yes but you didn't explicitly state it

[@MitchCairns]

- Battery is not required for operation over wire (same with RGB) - No, but that's a fun idea and developing a printable cap should not be a huge hassle (I don't have plans, but 3d files are on github) - No they don't, because those stickboxes are a different height among other things. We have a stretch goal to create new sticks that would resemble the original style

[@EnigmaThePhoenix]

split d-pad should be standart. i'm working on a metroidvania and run into the problem, that it needs to percice input for the standart that is in place right now. after that, i played other retro games whit this in mind and realised, they have exacly the same input dificulties that i got whit my own game, where i have to push a direction to fast and push the button not percice enough and accidently hit it a bit off so it pushes in slightly tilted and closes contacts of a diagonal adjacent direction, resulting in a bad outcome in game. im searching for controlers that have a split d-pad since, whit out finding any except joy-cons which i definitly not gonna use xD edit: i hope wintergatan knows you are using their music :D

[@cartersullivan8715]

This looks amazing! I hate to ask for more but would there ever be support for a mirrored controller? My left thumb doesn't work as well as my right and I've always wanted to try the analog stick on the right. (I now realize that isn't as simple as mirroring the board.) I've even tried holding my controller upside-down and calibrating the stick in that grip. I'll be supporting and I hope you succeed!

[@MitchCairns]

This controller does support axis inversion in the config... so you *could* hold it upside down and use it that way Or design some other shell that supports the mobo upside down or whatever

[@yevgeniylankin7032]

I think making the ABY modular as well would be the way to go

[@yevgeniylankin7032]

ABXY

[@MitchCairns]

Easier said than done

[@Spyro2990]

That's beautiful!

[@TheSuperScoot]

This is phenomenal work here! My question is: Does the controller function without the battery attached? Us Melee players are always corded, so I don't see a reason for constantly charging a battery and risking potential swelling/explosions.

[@HandHeldLegend]

Yes

[@TheSuperScoot]

​@@HandHeldLegendAwesome! I can't wait for the Kickstarter to go live 👍👍

[@SlavTiger]

could it be possible for you to use jst connectors or something similar to the joy con connectors, or an older, thicker cousin of the ribbon connector, for the stick sub-board? i love the project but those fragile folding connectors are the bane of my existence.

[@SlavTiger]

i cannot tell you how many of those micro latching ribbon connectors i have unintentionally destroyed over the years, even the friction fit ones they used in the 90s that were also fragile with the side latches are a billion times more durable in my opinion.

[@SlavTiger]

honestly if you had optional through holes for the pinout, i would happily take that as the easiest alternative connection solution, i just *know* if i get one of these (which i still really want to), i will almost certainly break the snap ribbon connector at some point.

[@MitchCairns]

@@SlavTiger There are through-hole connectors you may use if you have the appropriate soldering equipment. It's a 6 pin connection and I'm sure you can get those for pretty cheap. Cheers

[@JarretDeVeau]

this looks so promising

[@jackbuerer]

Looks amazing, I know you have the pass through cable to use with GameCube but do you think it could be possible to actually make a dongle for it to be like a modern day wave bird? Would be a nice stretch goal

[@MitchCairns]

Look into BlueRetro ^^ the work has been done by some awesome community folks.

[@jackbuerer]

@@MitchCairns Just looked it up and that’s amazing. Thanks for that suggestion

[@PraiseValkyrie]

​@@MitchCairnsCool and all, but its not a 2.4ghz solution. Some of us despise bluetooth input lag.

[@williamwilliam6500]

I live in a Third World country, if isnt that expensive and gets shipped here I will for sure by one!

[@gabrielguerra1660]

SAME AAAAAHHHHH

[@intoxicode]

I can tell you being in the repair industry, the three most common points of failure on this controller and pretty much N64 controllers too, Is the cable, The thumbsticks, and that horrible z button, You wouldn't believe how many broken z buttons I've seen over the years

[@EthanALS]

Smash influencers need to pick this up and get the marketing going because this product needs to exist already. What did the panda controller get like $2mil+ in backing before it got CANCELLED!? I heard it was because panda was working closely with Nintendo on the smash circuit and they basically had to postpone it. Might not be true but that’s what I heard

[@zahialsalman]

Fiiine, I'll make a Kickstarter account 😂

[@LordDiscord]

Have you though of adding any form of sticker decale that can be placed on that big space above the 5 buttons in the center. Maybe so if you wanted the controller have say the Gamecube logo on them you can or potentially any custom logo you create yourself

[@MitchCairns]

Yes. Considering silkscreen if it fits into our budget without inflating the price. More info when that's ready.

[@sebastianhernandez1034]

Hi, this product looks amazing and is definitely a must buy. However I was wondering if there could be a way to get mouse clicks for Z and ABXY. If I have to find a way to mod it in then so be it but for me who has this in his phob its a must and I don't think I'm alone in saying its a feature I'd pay extra to have done for me. Regardless this will be the best value in smash. This seems very by the community for the community so I figure I might as well ask for this feature. 😊

[@MitchCairns]

There is a connector to support flex PCBs that would sit on top of the existing button contacts. No plans in place to do anything specific yet, but I've dropped template files for any modders or makers who want to give it a try.

[@shivaargula4735]

I assume the print files will be available as part of the campaign?

[@MitchCairns]

Already are on GitHub (handheldlegend)

[@LoserTry]

can you add mosue clicks on everithing

[@dusty_reaper96]

does the sticks have L3 and R3 cuz then u can use the controller for every game

[@MitchCairns]

Yes

[@takatominemoto7703]

Very concerned about the stickbox. What is it made of?

[@flamestoyershadowkill]

will there be a dedicated steam input mode so you can use gyro and analog triggers at the same time. A absud updated version idea would be to add a ps style touchpad

[@MitchCairns]

Steam has no such input method as of this moment. Maybe in the future. There is a preliminary 'DS4' mode that supports Gyro and analog triggers but it's still beta.

[@gregorymirabella1423]

How well will it work on steam input? I'd want to use the analog triggers and gyro aiming at the same time, but only the PlayStation controllers have both. Can this act as a PS4 controller?

[@HandHeldLegend]

There is a beta DS4 simulated mode that works with SteamInput, that has preliminary support for analog triggers and gyro. It's very much beta but we can work on improving this in the future.

[@HandHeldLegend]

@HandHeldLegend NOTE that the DS4 mode will NOT work on PS4 or PS5.

[@gregorymirabella1423]

@@HandHeldLegend fine by me, steam input is all i need. i have a fat ps4 but i haven't used it in ages. thanks for keeping all of this in mind.

[@Ethan_EGM]

Is the STL for that shell available? That'd be awesome to 3D print

[@MitchCairns]

Yes GitHub handheldlegend

[@Reyas]

Pretty cool. Any latency tests? When's the Xbox One version coming out?

[@MitchCairns]

When Microsoft stops adding DRM to their controllers! Seriously though I'd love to support Xbox/Playstation, but they are extremely unfriendly to indie hardware developers, going great lengths to block controllers that don't have an authorized encryption chip. Getting said chip would very likely mean giving up on the notion of making source code available, so that's a stopper for me

[@Reyas]

@@MitchCairns I should have been more specific! Xbox One style, not necessarily for the Xbox consoles. The shape is so comfortable. No latency test as of yet?

[@tsunalein]

will there come buy and play controllers? Like ready to play for ppl without want to build them by himself?

[@kjmullinz]

Great video! Only problem is no NINTENDO LOGO engraved on the controller, but it's obviously why lol. ...do you know of a great place and company that make Nintendo decals?

[@Kade503]

Is there any chance of making an alternate shell or just a 3d model with better ergonomics on the handles? Preferably a more modern variation where the handles are slightly bigger and flair outwards more so you don't have to curl your index fingers to get them on the shoulder buttons?

[@SGMVyleke]

Are you considering compatibility with next nintendo console? I know some people say that next console will be compatible with switch controllers but you never know

[@MitchCairns]

Of course! Nothing is public yet so it's only speculation at this point.

[@aboxyguy]

would be cool with turbo!

[@javi994]

well, that would get this controller banned 😂

[@richardguilamo976]

ok do a wavebird mod if yes I want ask you if you can do it in my favorite colors.

[@trash-ken]

Are you interested in expanding the controller design in the future or will this be HHL's final GC ultimate design?

[@MitchCairns]

Never say never, I'm sure there will be things I'll want to improve or change in the future. Full transparency the only other thing I'm considering right this moment is some kind of stripped down, fully free/open board that would be made to run the Phob firmware but use the same shell.

[@makrsoaps6551]

Im super interested in this but one turn off im noticing is that it sounds like its missing the super loud and clicky L & R triggers. Is that just the video or are they really quiet? most of the satisfaction of using a gc controller are those clicks for me lol

[@MitchCairns]

The dual-stage triggers are here. Audio was not focused on that aspect in this video, but it's here.

[@darksamus8]

Any news for the controller progresses?

[@xsjadoridersc]

Could you make this controller with clicky face buttons? Or maybe back buttons?

[@HandHeldLegend]

We have an idea we are integrating to allow the addition of tactile face buttons later. Nothing is planned in stone just yet, but we are future-proofing the PCB for supporting accessories like this without the need to solder.

[@mystery_1155]

question for the modular slider whenever it actually gets fitted onto the board - does spamming the trigger very hard and fast have a tactile sensation? can you feel the strain at the trough, and can spamming it really hard really not make it pop out?

[@HandHeldLegend]

Because of how the sliders are mounted, and how the triggers are mounted above it, there's not any room for the sliders to physically pop out even if it did have the appropriate force to move in that direction.

[@Bringmecates.]

Will the c stick come with the original GameCube style kind? I prefer the smaller nub.

[@R3W3W]

Was a optical keyboard switch not an option for the triggers? They can detect travel Ive seen

[@MitchCairns]

Low profile switches limit our options. These switches are fantastic

[@geranmannberg]

@HandheldLegend Why are you not using spring loaded connectors for the right thumbstick?

[@geranmannberg]

For example: Mill-Max Spring Loaded Interconnect Headers

[@MitchCairns]

@@geranmannberg I've played with such connectors already. The connectors tend to be sort of fragile and while they can be good for some assemblies I don't think it's a good idea here. I have some test setups I've done with the spring-loaded interconnects and I was not happy with the results

[@henriquecastro4139]

Would it be possible to develop different shells, like Panda was going to do with their controller? I would love a more comfortable GC controller, the classic one becomes painful to hold in long gaming sessions.

[@noobtuber10]

Would it be possible to make 360 oem shell and house this? Ive very interested in this pad, and allowing for alternative shells would be insane, I play melee on a xbox 360 oem, the ability to manipulate deadzone and use circle gate is what first attracted me to this pad

[@lillyvideogames]

any chance of the USB-C port being put on a sub-PCB on a future revision? replacing broken ports is kinda of a pain when you're only option is to solder on a new port.

[@MitchCairns]

It was tested and found to cause connection issues on more units (higher defect rate)

[@MitchCairns]

Maybe in the future I'm open to looking into this again, but it's very difficult to maintain the kind of integrity that I want with the USB connection while also using a connector type that isn't error prone or causes other headaches

[@tomajovanovic9566]

Can we use the original joystick caps ?

[@MitchCairns]

No, but we will be including newly molded stick caps that resemble the classic look/feel.

[@otttimon5654]

Do we have to build this ourselves or will there be a possible backing option for prebuilt?

[@HandHeldLegend]

It's a DIY build kit! No soldering required.

[@JoshLeGrow]

Do we have a thought on the price yet?

[@NoNo-ij9ec]

I really want to buy a few of these but will it eventually make it to your website? I’m leery of kickstarter tbh.

[@HandHeldLegend]

Yes that will be the plan. We need the initial funding to pay for the molds up front though.

[@NoNo-ij9ec]

@@HandHeldLegend got ya, thanks for the response. I may reconsider because I do trust you. One additional question though, do you plan on selling the d-pad by itself? I’d imagine it would fit in the oem controller since the oem d-pad fits in this correct?