Hands forward Fundamentals#3

[@cheryljefferson2502]

40 years ago I was skiing with a Kiwi ski instructor and she said imagine you are carrying a tray of beer while skiing!

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Don't drop your beer at Christmas 👌✌️

[@morphyon]

This is genius, from this day on, I will use this. Cheers 🍻

[@annaiwaniec6843]

Me too! Love it!

[@tonyg3091]

Yay, my favorite online ski coach has his own channel. About bloody time! 😂 Godspeed!

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Sorry it's taken so long I had to go to film School.👌👍

[@scarface548]

goat is back

[@NowIsTheTime-t6d]

As an intermediate skier, I was so obsessed with what my feet were doing, I completely forgot my hands’ position, which was sending my posture out of whack. 🙏🏼 Thank you!

[@cvdnl23]

Took me a couple of seconds to recognize your voice Darren from the SKNG Ski School videos I watched years ago, quite nostalgic. Great videos back then in Tignes I believe. Great to see you have started your own channel and you haven't lost your passion for skiing.

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

I’m still here. I live in SERRE CHEVALIER France but we did do some films in Tignes.

[@cvdnl23]

@@DarrenTurnerSkiing Great, if I'm in the area I'll book a lesson for sure.

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

👌

[@edwardkenway6467]

So happy to see you’re back with your own channel. By far the best ski instructor online. Your videos have helped me tremendously. Thanks Darren!

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

I appreciate that! ✌️👍👍

[@patrickpurcell3671]

Yes fully agree great instructor - clear and precise.

[@maisondupre2413]

Have to agree with this statement. I just realised you have your own channel now👌. I’ve learnt so much from your videos. They are my ‘go to’ for reminders every season. I’m a better skier thanks to you. Much gratitude 🙏

[@johnr-r3s]

And so professsionally made. A real improvement on watching your original videos. they were groundbreaking at the time but so great you’ve relaunched with this new fresh look using technology but not overdoing it. thank you

[@adzy166]

Great comment. couldn’t agree more. From the man who invented carving underpants! Loved the ski school training app, back in the day.

[@PhilbyFavourites]

03:32 Are you sure you haven’t videod all my skiing life….. That’s a very similar lackadaisical approach to my gentle slope skiing that I’ve had for certainly over 20 years. I was taught to ski in Spain, France and Austria throughout the whole of the 80’s (such a stylish C&A decade). I’ve sat at a plateau of averageness for the last 20 years. But sadly covid put paid to regular holidays. Great to watch again and you may incentivise me to take it all up again. Now where did I put that red all in one suit and my Nordica Air Tridents with my 205 Dynastars…………

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Do it 👌👌👌👌👌

[@DD-sr9xm]

Classic ski instructor joke with the “Hans Forward” opening. Fantastic.

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

🙂🙂

[@georgemalliaros5502]

Solid gold advice. Eyes looking downhill. Hands forward. Shoulders mostly facing downhill. Of course, shaped skis make them shoulders follow the skis a bit.

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Well said!

[@jpi3623]

Glad you are back, you thought me to be a better skier watching your videos. I am very thankful.

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Glad the old films helped. Hope the new ones will push you on even further. 🙏

[@NinerK]

Darren thanks for this video. The TV Screen was an effective reference point and unlocked an epic day in the sierras for me today!!!! Thanks again.

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Excellent!

[@matthewsylvestre8256]

Your Back - You taught me to Ski online - Your The Best!

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

feel the love

[@stevewhiteley9249]

Nice to see you back on KZbin, very slick production, too.

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Thanks Steve I'm back

[@justyw]

I learned a lot from your SKNG videos. Nice to see you again. Love your teaching style.

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

thanks a lot. 👍

[@ciccigrasso]

I'm happy to find you again with your simple and clear lessons. You and Valerio Malfatto (Jam Session Ski Academy) are the best ski instructors on the web, in my opinion. Good luck

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Thanks so much for the feedback, I am back🤗

[@vladimirkrumov6781]

This is the guy that learned me how to ski… by just watching his explanation! Big thanks and happy new year. Wish you all good

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Thanks, and you too.✌️

[@atonenjr]

Found this channel yesterday and had my first alpine ski experience today. I was thinking about this Austrian chap "Hanns" all the time and it helped a lot. He is actually quite nice once you get to know him.

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

He's a lovely guy😂

[@nikon255]

Good to see you back! I learned how to ski from ur videos. Keep doing it, great job :)

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

thank you

[@jeffscott7223]

Hahaha, I feel your pain. Thanks again for bringing us some excellent ski lesson videos. I keep coming back to your work because there is nothing quite like it. You're an excellent skier and teacher, and you focus on these essential points like hands out front. In my books, body position is foundational. Sometimes, I think my fellow ski instructors would rather focus only on legs and ignore the impact that the poor body position is having on their students skiing. No, you're bang on, mate!

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

You ski with a whole body. Thanks heaps for the positive feedback. It really makes a difference to hear that. I really want to make this channel work, so any opportunity to share it to fellow instructors would be really appreciated. Thanks, Jeff👃

[@tonyg3091]

@@DarrenTurnerSkiing I very much doubt you have an idea how many people you helped becoming better skiers through your work for Elate media. Your videos there are still given as a textbook example on how these things are properly done. Wishing you lots of success with your new channel.

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Thanks a lot Tony. Feel TheLove🙏@@tonyg3091

[@dominator996]

@@tonyg3091 не любезничи так

[@team__seed2678]

From following the previous series. Great to see you now have your own channel. Wish you well

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Welcome aboard!

[@johnbradley1586]

Well said Darren. As a ( former ) instructor , the pole plant was one of the hardest things to get across. So , I like your idea of working on hands position first. You'll never see a good skier without a good pole plant or good hands.

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Well said👍

[@Benzknees]

Candide Thovex isn't bad.

[@lldadb664]

Like so many others, great to see you back. This video had me pegged to a T with your description of the problem elements. Can't wait to try out your suggestions in a month!😊

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Welcome back!

[@KenBeaconHill]

Thanks. You really are an exceptional instructor.

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Very kind✌✌

[@master_macchiato3222]

Great to see you have started a channel. Loved all the previous apps and was great having a few private days at Serre Chevalier with you several years back now. Cheers

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@alansim6127]

Definitely helps me to tell myself ‘hands in front’ when I’m on a tricky slope - that tends to be when my bad habits all come back.

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Definitely helps👌👍

[@tzc83]

Best instructor on youtube!

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Well that's very nice thing to say👍

[@alpedhuez2023]

Brilliant instruction, I will obey. Thanks Darren!

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

I will be watching👀

[@tedwang6898]

I am glad to see your new videos again and simply love them. Thanks.

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Thanks very much. I'm glad my audience is still out there.👍✌

[@shanghuang7744]

Hi D.T., this is the most helpful video for me to correct my skiing mistakes, thank you so much!!!

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

You're so welcome!

[@SergFilippenko]

Thank you! Love the way you teach!)

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Thank you 🙏

[@frankmiller668]

Dan, my eyes are sore from watching too many so-called skiers in bad body position. Just standing on their skis. I hear you! LOL ski guy Frank, Thanks for your get instruction

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Thanks, Ski, guy, Frank👍

[@lucyandersen2756]

Very funny - I love training with you not only does my skiing stay at its peak I also enjoy your gags 😂

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Glad you like them! Thanks, Lucy

[@4anat]

Много времени прошло но вы узнаваемы! Многому научился, спасибо! I'm glad to see you again!

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

I'm glad to see you as well.👍

[@yurikhar]

Totally agree with you...! And in general, the Front Stance is the best cure for all problems associated with skiing technique...

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

👍👍

[@gabrik50]

Wow Darren, i was watch all video elatemedia. Good that you have your own chanel. Great!!!

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

This is mate, hope you enjoy the films.

[@Zepp1969]

I often relax on the flat and let hands drop a bit but when its game on I get them out front.. great advice.

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Good stuff!

[@Capo51]

A good explanative ski clip ✌️🎿. Thank You 🙏.

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

😊😊

[@saqibKisana]

I am new to skiing and learned much from your fundamental videos. As a result, I improved my balance on the slopes and started doing much better. Thanks a lot for sharing

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Very pleased it helped👍👍👍

[@georgecuster527]

Great tips from a beautiful skier . Cheers

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

🤩 Beautiful? Thanks ✌️

[@Type1FunDay]

Was forced on a ski team as a child to do this... cannot shake it off. Perhaps to the point when it is too much, too rigid... I see lots of guys in the US who start dragging their inner hand when they lean into the carve. I guess that helps with the pole position (giving it some freedom that way), because otherwise you need to point it out more or something, but when i tried to lower my elbow/hand like that it never felt comfortable. Could be from skiing at gates when i was young, the inner hand has to stay in front of me or else.. haha. Enjoyed your video! Will pass it around.

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Thank you 👍👍

[@SkiRedMtn]

I used to have this style that my instructor buddies called “driving the bus.” But at least my hands were in front!

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Just make sure you don't crash the bus.😀

[@mattmorris2379]

The legend returns! 🎉 Great to see you back doing what you do best on the KZbin Darren! We’re in Serre Che in Jan 24 so will deffo look out for you and say “hi”. My main takeaway from this excellent video is “swinging is bad” 👀 One to live by, on and off the slopes!

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Legend! 👍 I will keep my eyes, peeled👀

[@max_v1r2al]

Thank you very much Darren. I'm already want to apply your lesson in my skiing, i'm intermediate, but still learning to ski better. Going to see your other lessons))

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Fantastic!

[@maisondupre2413]

Same. I’m a confident intermediate skier now thanks to Darren.👏👏👏⛷💨

[@makko21]

So very clear & focused. Subscribed

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

More to come soon.

[@jasonleftwrightleft]

The goat 🐐 (greatest of all time) is back!! 🙌🙌🙌

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Big praise indeed. Thanks Jason

[@thomasmedeiros5722]

Personally I like to compare holding the handlebars of my Mountain bike to holding my ski poles. When you ride your hands are always in front on the bars. You never drop them behind you or swing them. There are lots of crossover skills gained both sports. Way back when I was being trained to ski my coach had us hold our poles like bicycle handle bars in front of our body. I also emphasize not squeezing the pole grip to tight. If you relax your grip it’s easier to flex your wrist to imitate a pole touch. I use my thumb and middle finger and relax my other fingers to gently grip the handle.

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Definitely helps not gripping the polls too tight.👌

[@brianoconnor3407]

Over analysis leads to paralysis. Way over analyzing the pole plant. Hey, what were your toes doing during the pole plant? @@JB91710

[@gmoneymac23]

I like to tell my students to make sure you can see not only your hands in your peripheral view but some of your forearms, as well. Why? You can have your hands pretty low and still see them. Thus, thinking your hands are properly positioned.

[@lucycheng1174]

very nice to see you,Darren

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Nice to see you too.

[@clivemwood9467]

Great stuff, you gotta love balance.

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

👌👍🙏

[@russellperkins3367]

Hans Forward.... brilliant intro line.

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

😂😂😂

[@1969GManThe]

That was a funny finish to the video that also resonated 😂

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Thanks Gman

[@cleverlyplayednl8665]

Question, I am going to become a instructor myself. Would je advice me to drill this too beginner students as well? Or is this putting ut hands in from more for beginner to intermediate level? :)

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

I would definitely try and keep consistency through all the levels, it might be slightly less pronounced because they're probably travelling slower, but the fundamentals stay the fundamentals.👍👍

[@P982gts]

in order to achieve hands forward, as a cheat, would you recommend filming yourself with camera on the stick ? :) also, round shaped stickers on shoulders, knees and ankles

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Definitely

[@mountainflyhigh]

Been teaching for decades, and hand position is the single most important thing to focus on for most skiers, but especially beginners. Where your hands go, pretty much everything else follows. Forcing students to totally focus on their hands helps them to STOP thinking about their feet, which actually improves turning naturally. You can fine-tune the feet/legs/hips later, after you get the hands right.

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

👍👍

[@Osnosis]

With beginners there is confusion about length of poles, and also about where the pole travels (ain’t should trail the hand). I teach that the top of the pole handle is like a flashlight and you need to shine your way downhill.

[@Osnosis]

I hate spellcheck; ‘they’, not ain’t!

[@reddottx]

Hilarious! For all that is holy, just keep your hands in front! Maybe I’ll give it a try? 😂

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

I will be watching.👀

[@ParaglidingSwitzerland]

Brillant!!! 🙌🏻👍🏻

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Glad you like it.👍✌

[@ado976]

Never knew this. From now on, hands in front 👌

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

👌👌👌👌

[@D-Ski-Bike-Kayak-Etc-cv5tm]

So, should I keep my hands in front? 😜

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Yes please🙏

[@tonyg3091]

Just always bear in mind that in skiing the “O,SHIT!” handles are in front of you.

[@tx6433]

Darren, i'll keep my hands in front for your sake! I'll do it!!

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Thanks, it will help my blood pressure😂

[@HS-ob3fz]

Darren is back!

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Like a bad smell. 👃

[@marcin4456]

Hey, What model of boots and skis did you wear when you recording this video? :)

[@tnkl9230]

If the pole plant is so subtle, why ski with poles? Might as well ditch it for the entire skiing, what say you? anyone?

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

For me, if I'm skiing, relatively easy slope, the poie plant will be pretty subtle, however as things get steeper, maybe more bumpy or off piste, they become much more valuable.

[@1688AAA]

I don't understand though ​@@DarrenTurnerSkiing

[@brianoconnor3407]

What is interesting is that at :33 seconds into the intro, your inside hand is back, not forward. Just sayin.

[@ivoyanakiev6844]

It’s not necessary a coach/instructor to be perfect in his form.Maybe he is already long past his prime. The knowledge he has,and the skill to explain it to you,is what is matter!

[@brianoconnor3407]

@@ivoyanakiev6844 Give me a break. Of course a coach/instructor must properly demonstrate a technique, especially when it is focused on a specific concept, such as keeping hands forward. As I pointed out, his hand is back right at the intro, which is contrary to his overall point. With your mindset, you will never become certified, and thank goodness you are not sending that same message to students.

[@beeegeeedeee]

yes, yes and yes

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

And a big yes to you too.🙏🙏

[@rogervalade1781]

😊😊😊😊😊

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

✌️✌️✌️👍👍👌

[@jackjmaheriii]

I’m a solid intermediate skier, so take this with a grain of salt… But it seems like poles create as many problems as they solve for people in my skill range.

[@jobbiman1]

Poles are essential to ski well. Period. Dragging poles, planting with hands behind, over rotation, swinging with shoulders and hands, flip flop head, well, any of that make poles feel like a pain in the ass- thats what he talks about when he discusses "over pole-planting". yes? He is right: keep your hands forward- always, as an ex racer and coach its sorta essential. But some of the shots in the production he drags his poles in the snow and he doesn't have his hands really out in front as much as a result so its dragging him back and he is not "driving downhill as much with his hands" so if thats what you see you are correct in my opinion. Also the no poles regime has benefits but it dates back to the 90's (for what i suppose I know) to stop "rotary push off" and rotation in the shoulders and legs "gorilla turn" ie: "patrol role".as I understand it. Yeah its a bad thing . Drive your hands downhill, don't drag your poles, look three turns ahead, have soft knees and make decisions early and with confidence-you will do better. You also have to stay "stacked" above your feet not in the back seat or too much in the front and adjust. (not too narrow with the feet otherwise you skid all the time / fall over and/or cannot create decent edge angels/hip angulation/leg extension to load, pressure, steer your skis, finish your turns and have a hope of controlling speed) for balance and have quick feet (try thousand steps exercise). :) Its not that hard, i do it and you can-have fun too. shoulder width stance for your feet its about moving your hips inside early so you can pressure your feet and engage the ski and edge

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipmunHWkbbKJfLMsi=SLHdNgxkWBQV3wWV If you end up getting any kind of angle, the inside pole will drag on the snow. It has nowhere else to go.

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

It's kind of a fair comment, but at the early stages, it's best just to keep them pointing behind you and focus on your own position, as you progress, they will become much more usefulIt's kind of a fair comment, but at the early stages, it's best just to keep them pointing behind you and focus on your own position, as you progress, they will become much more useful, patience, 😔😔

[@jobbiman1]

Not meaning to rag on your tips at all, lots of great stuff in all your lessons but I just hate dragging as it brings your hands back, and I raced slalom bashing gates with hands all day so thats why- but you give tons of great info and I dont mean to detract from that, have fun skiing as thats what its about! :)@@DarrenTurnerSkiing

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

its all good 👍👍@@jobbiman1

[@janmerka7679]

Everything OK, but check closely your left arm. You are leaving it always behind when finishing the turn.

[@Jakob_Nybo]

I like

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Great to hear.

[@Rakumario]

Get rid of the poles anytime you can!

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

It can be very useful.

[@kukanow1]

"Сколько раз я говорил"держи руки впереди, держи впереди!" .. сколько раз я говорил это в своей жизни..." - какой наверное трэш всю жизнь повторять одни и те же слова... загрустил короче диду

[@eric6249]

On skls sence the age of 5, 59 years skiing. I am a pole planter which sets up the next turn. Hands move first. My hands move out with the arms tight against the body as if you are running. Shoulders don't really move. This is old school and correct. I can't stand the new school of teaching with the hands constantly out front floping around with no where to go. I pole plant at all speeds, slow, fast and in the bumps. What he is describing as a pole plant is a incorrect pole plant. Lean over the tips of your skis and pole plant.

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

If you're happy and enjoying yourself, you're doing it right. There's certainly nothing new school here.😂😂

[@brianoconnor3407]

Lean over the tips of your skis and pole plant???? 🤣

[@panpainbread]

Please subtitle

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

👍 I need to find some time to do that. I will try ✌️

[@stevie5903]

You sure

[@bradsellew4989]

Good video, music loud and annoying.

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

I will try and turn it down.....👍

[@bradsellew4989]

But keep your skiing tuned up & turned up. Great content.

[@simonorr594]

Ski Heil!

[@maisondupre2413]

The legend is back🥇🏆⛷🎿👨🏻‍🏫 Very grateful for all the videos you have done that explain everything so well. I’m a confident intermediate skier thanks to you. Every time I’m out there I’m thinking about your tips, and yes, the hand position is a game changer. Much gratitude 🙏

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Legend, indeed. Thanks so much for the kind words.👌

[@OutdoorExperience.101]

This is a very good video! (as usual) Glad you're back...missed your online lessons. Good luck Darren!

[@DarrenTurnerSkiing]

Thanks so much👍👍