Hands-on Review of Canon's G7XIII and G5XII

[@TheMtnmamma]

I appreciate that you talk slow enough for me to understand you, compared to a few other reviews I have seen!

[@guyjordan8201]

I appreciate your competitor comparisons (both pro and con) as well as a feature review. It's what we need. You two have made your mark on this channel and it is a good one. The G5x would be my choice if I were to chose between them.

[@budthecyborg4575]

4:38 Maybe the comparison loses something over KZbin but the internal mic sounds WAY better than I would have expected. It seems like the external mic picks up a lot more background noise. Even if the internal mic is a bit muffled, based on this sample it's good enough that which one I prefer is almost a toss up (at least in terms of run&gun voice recording, I'm sure in a studio or recording music the external mic's improvement in clarity would become much more apparent).

[@gelloyangsteryang6481]

0:07 the guy in the background is like hey that's my camera!

[@budthecyborg4575]

5:14 "Livestream Directly to KZbin" *MIND EXPLODES* Good Job Canon. Even if it's early days for that bit of software, you have to applaud Canon for being the best in the business for complex features like that (The self calibrating ceiling bounce flash is another great example where Canon seems head and shoulders above the rest of the industry).

[@kirk1847]

G5xii is a very good camera. I have had it for two years with great results.

[@dwnthk]

Oh... I've just brought G7X M3 for photography. And I don't do vlogging...

[@okaro6595]

1:20 You should always use the wrist strap. It prevents dropping the camera.

[@paulhenriquezopiniepaultje]

I'll go for the Canon's G7XIII. Not sure if the G5XIII is on sale here in The Netherlands. I am stunned by the pictures made with the mode where you can make pictures with less light available, as well as the panoramic mode. This did not appear in your video but they are very usefull to me.

[@DeyvsonMoutinhoCaliman]

What about the issues with face recognition on the G7X III?

[@Maochan81]

I bought the G7X II used to test out these small Canon cameras and was really impressed with the images. The AF was a bit wonky, otherwise great. Since i liked it, i upgraded to the G5X II. The EVF is nice, but for me the selling point was the new lens with extra 20mm of reach. This makes it probably the most versatile pocket camera for photographers. Of course I wish it had Sony's AF or at least something similar, but it always depends on your priorities...

[@troygrudintfgrudin1630]

I have been using a Canon G7XII since June 2017. I've been very happy with it.

[@ashjcoronado]

G5X mark II FTW, love this tiny camera!

[@brian6x]

Since these cameras came out in 2019, does Canon have any near-term plans to release upgrades to these cameras?

[@Pidalin]

segment of profi compact cameras just died, I don't think there will be something new for reasonable price in near future, buy when it's still on stock

[@gainde1137]

@@Pidalin I don't think so. The lower class compact camera for snapshota died. I like the ergonomics of compact camera and prefer them over phone cameras for photography trips. System cameras are often too big.

[@Bonjour-World]

Was there a size comparison ? From what I have been able to find, I believe the G7-X III is a tad bit smaller. Both seem to stretch the concept of a "pocket" camera (unless one as large pockets).

[@scivids1999]

I still use a Canon G1 X as a large sensor compact but this is tempting me somewhat!

[@EA-58]

G5X, G7X, SX 740 HS...within months they all collect dust behind the lens and on the sensor. Here in Holland i have a G7X MKII and had it cleaned two times within a year by normal use.

[@brenthandy6272]

Great review - nicely spoken and informative on the differences between these cameras. The G5X-ii would be my choice

[@snowwalker9999]

Why did Canon need to release two almost identical cameras both missing important features? Why not just one with a little more reach, DPAF in 4k with external mic audio jack and EVF.

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

I can't agree more. They would need to engineer the design to fit both the viewfinder and the microphone jack. But, it seems strange that they segmented this camera for 2 audiences instead of just creating one ultra-premium camera.

[@Pidalin]

because of managers sitting in office

[@ooievaar]

Very good. Good sound, no disturbing background music. Interesting information.

[@Benjamin_Jehne]

Before Canon launched the G5X II I was sure to go for the RX100 VII. My mother is using the VI and that is an impressive little camera. What I dont like is the new EVF of the Sony. Sounds wired, but try them both. The older pull out version has a little eyecup, the new one is absolutely plane and so is always smeared. So I will go for the G5X MKII. That lens is way more interesting for me, than having 200mm at the long end.

[@scs6757]

Sony still sells the RX100 VA, which has the pull out EVF, fast lens, and phase detect AF. It's the same price as the G5X MKII.

[@Benjamin_Jehne]

SC S SC S I know the RX100IV and it’s basicly the same like the VA just not that fast. The the G5x ii is some kind of different camera than the RX. I bought it yesterday, after testing and comparing it to the Rx IV. The Sony is an ultra compact, witch fits well in the back pocket. The Canon is the size of a Olympus Pen Mini (PM1) without a lens attached. So for me those are two different categories. The EVF of the Canon looks better than that of the Sonys. Also the display is way better. To be honest, I don’t know if it was the right decision, but 70mm is to short for me. I own a RX100 I for myself with its 28-105mm and I don’t want to go under this range. Canon did no marvel here, it’s a bigger and brighter lens and for that, they need a bigger body.

[@shaolin95]

I wanted the g5x ii but is so far inferior to the Sony that I couldn't. Why why why canon would out such and outdated unreliable AF in newer cameras is insane

[@Benjamin_Jehne]

@@shaolin95 To be honest, I bought both 🙈. At first the Canon and later the Sony. But yeah, the AF of the G5XII is a joke. The RX is so unbelievable in this department. Also for video. The AF is so sticky, it’s really like the big bodies. The G5XII is just for photographers, and you get a lot missed focus images. But the way you can work with this 24-120mm lens is something very special. It’s not to compare with something like the RX100VA. I hope that we will see a G5XIII with a new sensor and PDAF + 4K without overheating after 5min. If they bring it, i‘ll be the first to raise the hand to get one. I tried it as a back up for event photography and this little beast delivers. Some years ago, I always had a mFT as a back up with me at events. Just something small and lightweight. But there is nothing that can compete with a 24-120mm F1.8-2.8. this lens is so versatile that I often put my FF bodies beside and just walk around with the G5XII. I gave it to my co-photographer to test it at a event and as I reviewed his images in the press room, I could see, that after he tried it the first time he used it more and more. So much, that I reminded him not to forget the big one. But I can understand him. This little Canon is a joy to use, way more than the RX100s. Even with it’s flaws, I would never give it away before there is a new version.

[@jits1]

I already own the Sony Rx-100mark 1. Is G7X mark 3 a worthy upgrade for me. Thanks

[@Pidalin]

I am still waiting for my dream camera with no big LCD display but with better view finder instead. I understand that people want to do selfies and videos, but why there are no cameras for people who want mainly take pictures anymore?

[@58samurai]

Great review 👍 I agree with other comments about your unbiased reports on various competitor cameras. Also appreciate your comments on matching the camera to your creative style. I have watched other commentators and they always seem to think everyone is vlogger . Always come to your channel when I need a good comprehensive review👏

[@gant911]

Excellent review and samples! Thx

[@iancurrie8844]

Any USB-PD standard charger will work.

[@cinemenico]

You can also use other PD (Power Delivery) USB-C charging devices (chargers/powerbank; but they do demand the 'PD'-compatibility).

[@ReneB099]

I'm hanging in there with my ageing SX700HS at the moment. I'm a bit on the fence choosing between the two units reviewed here, although I am leaning towards the G7XIII for my main camera and keep the SX700HS as a second camera as that has some capabilities that the G7XIII is lacking. Also, in Australia at the moment, the G7XIII is more readily available.

[@msbrownbeast]

I have a SX700HS and the G5X Mk II. The G5X is much better in every respect (except for the ultra zoom).

[@Akibatai00]

Thank you for your in depth review

[@gayankonara2187]

Thanks. From which camera you guys record this video? It was really crisp video. Can you please let me know?

[@ShaunakDe]

There are now many compact 65W USB C chargers on the market from ankler and belkin. Just FYI

[@mashifkalik888]

Although Sony 1" cameras have more functionality and have sharper image, canon cameras are more robust.

[@joeyggonzalez9563]

Nice review ! Great team for camera reviews

[@redpillnibbler4423]

Hello,how is the evf for spectacle wearers? (Eye relief)

[@vikhnesh313]

Can you compare the G5xii with the Sony ZV-1

[@vivi21channel]

HI .. i just bought G5X II .. but i can't find the panorama function. (Forgive me .. as i am used to mobile photography) .. can you guide me???

[@DaveTCSTV]

Hi, sorry for the delayed response. On the G5X II the panorama mode is one of the options under the "scn" option on the main dial. Put the dial to "scn" then press the "set" button on the back dial and tab through the options till you get the panorama option. Hope that helps, thanks

[@vivi21channel]

@@DaveTCSTV Thank you so much for the great help!

[@ShaunakDe]

Love the review!

[@davidaubuchon7309]

The G5x would be my choice! Great video. Thank you.

[@topseda]

How good is the evf in comparison to m50? Thanks.

[@moke1310]

Living in Australia I would value the viewfinder. Most point and shoots fail in bright light without an EVF. But the dollars involved mean I will survive using my Olympus EM1 MkII and live with the lack of being pocket sized.

[@-_-ulyana]

Great review! Thanks.

[@stephanieperry1119]

Do you have DPAF in Live view?

[@Frostki]

isnt evelyn super identical to liza snyder from the show ' man with a plan ' ?

[@Poupou1057]

I prefer the G5X II 😊. Really nice video 👍👍

[@RobustArid379]

I can’t decide which one i like

[@HaroldJP89]

🙋🏻‍♂️🇨🇴 Would love to see a G5XII vs rx100VA video

[@cinemenico]

I love to see a RX100 VIIA. :P (And the camera coming in below a thousand bucks)

[@barryjordan8205]

Great review, helped me to make up my mind and I have brought the G5X to go alongside my Cannon 6D DSLR.

[@veer66]

I prefer G7 X mark III to G5 X mark II because I don't like pulling EVF out and I suppose for me, an external mic is more important than EVF.

[@marcelslagman3648]

The G5X MII is a great camera to work with.

[@jonhermannsson9231]

make such a cute couple - but somehow I have a feeling you guys are not. I have the original G7X - but if I had to choose now I would pic the G5X.

[@cinemenico]

Ev? Jordan Drake's wife if I'm not mistaken. Previously the video guy of TCSTV, now moved over with Chris Niccolls to do content for DPReview. ;)

[@letssaylalala]

Shiznuts I used to think Jordan is married to Chris... They’re kinda cute. Lol

[@IIIJFRIII]

I wish they kept the body off the original G5X for the mark ii. Deal breaker for me.

[@mawavoy]

5x for me please!

[@RuralMallu]

Need a comparison with Sony. 👍

[@veer66]

I should rethink about taking a bird photo. 🤣

[@caroljeanscott5571]

I would never get a camera with a touch screen. I can only use one hand and trying to hold the it and take a picture would be impossible for me. I do have the Canon ELPH 190 is that is not a touch screen and I am able to handle it with ease and take beautiful pictures. I like Canon cameras and photography so I hope they do not put a touch screen on all their models.

[@cinemenico]

... I just wanted the old G5 X body style with nice ergonomics, bunch of buttons, dials and switches for customization, with a vari-angle touchscreen, integrated EVF with hotshoe on top... then with the new 24-120mm f/1.8-2.8 lens... built-in ND. Mic-input. Livestreaming and so on. The 24p not thrown out. The C-AF not worse than it was. Overheating not an issue. They really butchered these cameras it seems. Then again, I don't find the RX100 VII an attractive offering either, neither is the Panasonic LX100 Mark II the perfect alternative here.

[@MaMac1980]

I think we search for similar perfect cameras that do not exist. The lens on G5x m2 seems to be great, but its autofocus screws the camera up. Looks like the best solution is not to buy the new models now, but rather wait for the newcomers. Having in mind the great success of phone cameras, Canon&Sony will have to make some extra effort to deliver the competing hardware.

[@q80aziz]

Yes I have to agree the you tube upload setup process should be easier 🤔 otherwise I am happy 😄 with my G7 III Thanks

[@willstread]

G5 x is my favorite

[@jonhermannsson9231]

great review as always guys - AF kills those both - Sony reigns - I am afraid Panasonic will have their contrast only AF on their updates of the LX100 sadly - seems Panasonic and Canon are buying old Sony 1 inch sensors

[@danmar007]

Is the camera really that small or is that the legendary 50-foot woman? :-)

[@manishmishra6945]

Great review..

[@JeffSpeers]

2.5 stars on both Amazon and B&H. Canon should really rethink not putting in dual pixel AF or 24fps video.

[@cinemenico]

Well... as they don't make 1" sensors but 'borrow' their compactcamera sensors from Sony, like many other brands do, they obviously don't have Canon's propriety DualPixel AF. That said... I wouldn't say people were 'perfectly happy' with the C-AF on the G7 X Mark II, but it was somewhat acceptable. What is not acceptable that a generation later the C-AF not only not has improved... it has become worse than it was! And they've taken out 24p as well! Surely though they must've added something? Well, you do get overheating and interrupted recordings now, so... there's that?! Not sure what they're smoking over there at Canon HQ...

[@JeffSpeers]

@@cinemenico they actually do make 1 inch sensors with and without Dual Pixel AF. It just so happens that this latest batch of cameras with 1-inch sensors they are sourcing from Sony. Both the XF405 and XF705 have DPAF and they look and work great! I have an older XC10 that has a 1 inch sensor made by Canon. It doesn't have DPAF, it is a little slow to find focus sometimes, but when it does it hardly ever loses it and it doesn't do that wierd focus pulse like others do. I can do smooth focus pulls with the touch screen. It has 4k 24fps and 30fps, 1080@60fps and C-log as a bonus!

[@okaro6595]

@@JeffSpeers Those are video cameras, apples and oranges.

[@JeffSpeers]

Okaro X nice straw man.

[@jimpolland8788]

Definitely mark 11

[@drdimento]

Thank you for an awesome review. Truly I think neither camera is priced right. I'm a fan of Canon anything and have all Canon gear, however neither of these cameras impress me much. The SX740HS would seem to be a better choice with a much longer reach and more options at much less than these expensive beasts. I recently downgraded from the 80D to the M50 mirrorless and I have whined even one tear with the M50 having advanced firmware-options than the older 80D. Canon must add some more features or continue to lose clientele over to Sony who seems to be leading the edge with the exception of terrible menus and touch screen lacking.

[@okaro6595]

There is absolutely no comparison on image quality. SX740 HS totally sucks compared to these. On the wide end the sensor in these get about 14 times the amount of light.

[@BayardoRugama]

I’m so disappointed in the new g7x iii. It’s really sucks. ☹️ IT CANNOT FOCUS.

[@cinemenico]

Yeah... Canon... more like Cannot indeed. We've seen Panasonic improve C-AF performance considerably with firmware updates. We've seen Sony adding a 'tripod mode' that raises the threshold for overheat protection kicking in, but rendering the camera so uncomfortably hot for handheld shooting that you should mount it to a tripod. And we've seen Olympus add 24p to the E-M1 through firmware as well. So I'm hoping they'll listen to what people have to say and be all over these issues, addressing it later on with firmware!

[@MaMac1980]

The same is with g5x m2 in low light. It has plenty of troubles to get things in focus, especially when zoomed. I owned RX100 m1 and now trying to get a new camera. Canon is great in terms of ergonomics, but with this auto focus system it sucks. RX100 M6+M7 does not suite my needs - i need a brighter lens, not neccessarily with 200mm. g5x lens is great, 24-120 has a perfect usability. I tried RX100 VA, but 70mm is simply not enough. Plus uploading/downloading the images wirelessly is terrible (i need manually eject the card). I am really confused what to buy - iphone quality is great when viewed on the phone, but not for larger screens...

[@okaro6595]

It has to be broken, get it repaired.

[@PabloMurad]

I don't understand English very well, so my question will be straight. Haha, which one is better?

[@iyn1911]

G5x mark II

[@siyuwang3394]

G5X is better for me.

[@dabatchko]

still no usb charging? in 2021? bye bye.

[@iancurrie8844]

They’re both compatible with any USB “power delivery” standard charger.

[@classikz]

I miss the asian looking dude

[@cinemenico]

Chris and Jordan can now be found over at DPReview's channel: watch?v=AunJ9nhVERs . ;)

[@ag4eng]

There is no point in these cameras anymore when iPhone Pro and Pixel 4 can do so much.

[@FlatWaterFilms]

But can they shoot in RAW ???

[@ag4eng]

Flat Water Films They can with the specific apps. I have a G7XII, but rarely use it now. Canon should have updated the G3X or come up with some new ideas for portable photography to compete with mobile world and computational photography. Apple and Google are in a different league for software processing now. My first digital camera was the G2, loved it.

[@gainde1137]

Ergonomics of compact cameras are much better. I don't like the shutter button of phone cameras.