Handwork: Sword disarmaments

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Björn Rüther

Björn Rüther

6 жыл бұрын

This video presents all sword disarming techniques from Joachim Meyer's treatise on the art of fencing written in the 16th century.

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@norwich_hema_society
@norwich_hema_society 13 күн бұрын
Still my go to guide for disarm! Very clear instructions and beautifully executed.
@stefanleo8963
@stefanleo8963 5 жыл бұрын
The demonstration ALSO showed the importance of holding your sword properly.
@ChaosAngel667
@ChaosAngel667 3 жыл бұрын
and using gauntlets.
@agniroyai1230
@agniroyai1230 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's just me but every time I hear the music during the intro, I wish it'd continue in the demonstration
@southfldaniel
@southfldaniel 3 жыл бұрын
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@ossian1977
@ossian1977 3 жыл бұрын
It must be so cool to train at this school! BTW the app is great, I see there is a bit more content in English coming online too, hoping for a full update at some point (but hey the DEU version is already amazing)
3 жыл бұрын
thx mate...we try to translate the app bit for bit with an update every 3 month
@andrewprahst2529
@andrewprahst2529 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine they disarm at the same time and swap swords
@hjalti0000
@hjalti0000 6 жыл бұрын
That reversal on the wrist-press at 1:24 is delicious
@mattmanbrownbro
@mattmanbrownbro 6 жыл бұрын
Yes! Beautifully done!
@farisomar9974
@farisomar9974 4 жыл бұрын
Perfectly done my friend.
@evandroantonucci2653
@evandroantonucci2653 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for sharing.
@Maergensargoth
@Maergensargoth 6 жыл бұрын
So here I come straight from a longsword class where we did disarms and what? Björn pops up with a video on the same thing :D
@alexkopteev
@alexkopteev 2 жыл бұрын
very beautiful technique and nice demonstration. thank you very much)
@vengefulone5725
@vengefulone5725 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, the view from the bottom a great idea very helpful. While I highly doubt anyone could pull off any of these moves in a tournament (unless they have super human reflexes and hand speed) I see how some of them could work if your opponent is very tired and suffering from limited mobility and extensive blood loss from injury while you are still fresh and unscathed.
@leichtmeister
@leichtmeister 6 жыл бұрын
Or maybe most tournament fencers just suck in historical accuracy ;)
@WozWozEre
@WozWozEre 6 жыл бұрын
Disarms do happen in tournaments, it's just many competitors do not train in them much. When they do, they work.
@vengefulone5725
@vengefulone5725 6 жыл бұрын
Well I guess the problem is that blunt feeders are used in tournaments, they don't bite into and bind with each other like real swords so there isn't really any opportunities to do these kind of techniques as they slide off upon contact. It's a training artificiality that I allowed to alter my viewpoint, if it didn't work Meyer wouldn't have wrote it.
@matthewbreytenbach4483
@matthewbreytenbach4483 4 жыл бұрын
@Vengeful One A bit late but, oh well. The individual techniques of a system are generally less important than the principles they teach. Sure you won't usually be able to perform a textbook disarm on the spot, but the skills gained from the drill can be adapted to similar situations.
@khachouchesifeddine5653
@khachouchesifeddine5653 Жыл бұрын
Very nice training ! Thank you . .
@acaristic93
@acaristic93 4 жыл бұрын
I managed to find the Meyer images for nearly all of these as well as some textual descriptions, but a few I haven't yet been able to figure out,any chance you could note the text descriptions(and images) from Meyer for these?
@LucianoSilvaOficial
@LucianoSilvaOficial 6 жыл бұрын
Good work!
@PeterSolerom
@PeterSolerom 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@hjalti0000
@hjalti0000 6 жыл бұрын
Would the third disarm still work if the opponent does not press the wrist while half-swording, and instead keeps both hands on their grip?
@dimakalina1971
@dimakalina1971 6 жыл бұрын
Impressive.
@bud389
@bud389 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing a video somewhere online where the the dude used a longsword, one-handed, and twirled the blade around the other dude's blade, and through sheer kinetic force, used it to disarm the other dude....Have no idea what the technique was called, but I've been looking for it.
@RRAAN55
@RRAAN55 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Björn, excellent video as usual ! The view from below is a really good idea ! By the way, what are the gloves that you used for this video ? I'm looking for light ones for similar exercises :)
@atrivialpursuit
@atrivialpursuit 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, I would also like to know what the gear from gloves to elbows are. They look to move so fluidly yet protected.
@RRAAN55
@RRAAN55 6 жыл бұрын
Erikka Luitjens except for the gloves, I'm pretty sure that it is SPES protections :) www.faitsdarmes.com/fr/protege-bras/77-protections-coude-et-avant-bras.html But I still wonder what are these gloves ^^
@umartdagnir
@umartdagnir 6 жыл бұрын
The fifth (from Kron) is a strange one. A fencer just grabs a sword with a single hand from opponent's two hands with no twisting or anything. Yes, the position when both fencers go with arms high is the best for a disarm, but this particular execution will work only if one is much stronger than the other.
6 жыл бұрын
Dmitrij Bugajev When you expect the disarm...sure...to hands are stronger than one. But in our experience the disarming comes very surprisingly. Try it out :)
@SeanArcherSDA
@SeanArcherSDA 6 жыл бұрын
But there is 'twisting' if you watch how he grabs the grip then rotates the sword out of the weaker part of the opponents grip.
@wecysdeava4193
@wecysdeava4193 6 жыл бұрын
Dmitrij Bugajev You need to make turns of the sword so you won't grip it firmly in most of the time.
@seijiyokota6706
@seijiyokota6706 6 жыл бұрын
True true, you reach with a pronated hand and pull while supinating.
@lacknerflorian7254
@lacknerflorian7254 2 жыл бұрын
My, what a cutie ,. really really love her hair , Im not trained with medieval weapons ,. but look good ,. ? Ty for share ,. wish an nice day , pls stay well.
@user-ws7hw3hm3g
@user-ws7hw3hm3g 6 жыл бұрын
Super!)
@JohnyB1989
@JohnyB1989 6 жыл бұрын
So cool to watch :) Both of you are so cute as well 🙈
@zoeyhuntress2698
@zoeyhuntress2698 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, sword noob here. I'm curious to know about the arm/armor you're using and where I can find it? Thx!
@migmindy
@migmindy 5 жыл бұрын
quite the scar. sharp duel? or something less intense?
@FortheHorde93
@FortheHorde93 4 жыл бұрын
Where can you purchase the trousers and socks in black and white?
4 жыл бұрын
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@Warszyc
@Warszyc 4 жыл бұрын
fajnie pokazane
@rayamay7610
@rayamay7610 Ай бұрын
Hey, I have a question. Can you disarm sb with bare hands by grabbing the sword or will you be seriously hurt while you try? In the Scene I have in mind someone threatens somebody, so he holds his blade still. The person threatened is supposed to grab the blade near the hilt when the other does not expect it, twist it around while thrusting it forward, so that his opponent loses balance and his grip on the hilt. The question is - is it possible without any gloves or armour on? It's important for the book I'm writing on.
Ай бұрын
In principle, it is possible to take a sharp sword without serious injury. Even without gloves or armor. Just don't wrap your hands tightly around the blade, but pinch the blade between the tips of your fingers and the palm of your hand.
@rayamay7610
@rayamay7610 Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@LoVeElEcTrIcItY
@LoVeElEcTrIcItY 4 жыл бұрын
Where might one purchase these training swords?
@riczinger1
@riczinger1 4 жыл бұрын
To me they look like Regenyei feders, so either look for it at a retailer, or order one from their website.
@nadie823
@nadie823 4 жыл бұрын
I've also seen a web called Fait D'armes which seems to have good prices
@randelldarky3920
@randelldarky3920 4 жыл бұрын
Would a lanyard help Me to keep My sword?
4 жыл бұрын
to keep it in a chaotic and uncontrolled manner...yes :) you should be able to get your hands of the grip at every time...
@lowfatlatte0
@lowfatlatte0 3 жыл бұрын
These seem like they rely on the opponent having an iron grip on their sword. Not to say it isn't accurate to the manuals, but to say these might be less Functional than the authors hoped
@grahammacbean4989
@grahammacbean4989 3 жыл бұрын
In my experience, you usually just gain control over their sword and can stab or cut them with your own. If you are actually trying to disarm them, the quick twisting ones are best, while the ones where you simply grab the handle and pull are more about unbalancing the opponent or gaining control of their weapon. I think of them as swapping out your hand for your sword in a bind, which frees the sword to do other things. You can also just kind of hang on to their sword and follow their force around, so that you maintain contact and control. Wearing g gauntlets makes these techniques even harder, but you can always just grab the handle to foul their shots and limit their responses.
@Mephiston1984LoD
@Mephiston1984LoD Жыл бұрын
🙂
@evropaheart
@evropaheart 2 жыл бұрын
man you guys are a good looking pair. If you had kids they'd have some nice hair.
@logicalspartan
@logicalspartan 5 жыл бұрын
You are both in great shape but....all these disarms are not practical at full speed and or with combatants with equal strength.
@Wargsy
@Wargsy 3 жыл бұрын
I will say, I have one complaint here. Now these can be done, but.. my issue is she's just letting you take it. In a real sword fight, no one would just let go of their weapon and just let you disarm them. They'd try to keep a grip on their weapon. Of course! I know you're demonstrating, but it'd be great to see it demonstrated with her fighting back, and then seeing how it'd go from there.
@ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique
@ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t happen in a real fight lol. No opponent would pause and gently let you grab their weapon off their hands lol. But goos for demonstration.
3 жыл бұрын
I am sure with a little practice you will be able to find the right moment for such actions.
@patrickloney5959
@patrickloney5959 4 жыл бұрын
No one is going to let you just take their weapon. To see if the technique would work. Have your partner resist.. REALLY RESIST
4 жыл бұрын
These techniques are all historical documented and they work. If an opponent is all the time holding the sword like a iron fist fencing would not really functional. They have to release the grip from time to time to keep techniques flow. If they are all the time prepared for disarmaments they will lose the fight. The trick is to disarm your opponent in the right moment. Sure, if they see it coming they could try to resist. But this is happened from time to time. Techniques will be countered or techniques will work. Thats fencing :)
@GeekGunner
@GeekGunner 4 жыл бұрын
@ Great video, this definitely seems like something that's much easier done without heavy gloves on. I know with SPES heavies there's nearly no room left to grip onto and take their feder.
@logicalspartan
@logicalspartan 5 жыл бұрын
We have no idea how they really worked. I note how MMA has taught most martial artists the useless nature of many of the cherished martial arts moves they practiced.
@frogman4700
@frogman4700 2 жыл бұрын
idk about you but ive had a couple of these be used on me in Sparring at my HEMA club
@satyrulak
@satyrulak 6 жыл бұрын
You should make more video's with her. She's cute.
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