Hans Zimmer about the Genius Jacob Collier

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Hans Zimmer about the Genius Jacob Collier #hanszimmer #jacobcollier #genius
(If I seem to be defending Jacob Collier's music in the comments, I'm not. I just can't stand uninformed opinions overall.)
Jacob Collier is an English singer, songwriter, multi-instrumentalist, producer, and educator. His music incorporates a combination of jazz with elements from many other musical genres, and often features extensive use of reharmonisations and close harmony.
From the BBC Docummentary "In The Room Where It Happens".
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[@L-po8rx]

It's so interesting seeing such a famous composer in utter adoration over the musical talent of someone so young. Like you would normally expect to see the younger looking up to the elder. Wonderful to see.

[@Atlas65]

Yes it made have a little less respect for Hans Zimmer after hearing this. Or maybe he is just following where the wind blows and doesn't really feel like that.

[@iamdihan]

Especially Hans Zimmer!! His music is just magical

[@VynxeVainglory]

@@murraywilloughby7116 Absolutely. It was the same with Steve Vai geeking out about him, but the whole time I'm thinking..."Jacob's harmony and radical movements often sound like Vai to me." I reckon Jacob was just as excited to be there.

[@emanuel_soundtrack]

Yes, the correct is the fool to follow the wise, and the elder are statistically wiser

[@LearnCompositionOnline]

This means more a HZ‘s lack of taste and philosophy regarding artistic authenticity than JC‘s geniality . Despite being one a competent jazz musician, the other a competent businessman of soundtracks. Not surprising would be Jacob Collier learning form the elderly of this generation, who have way more substance to teach about music and geniality, like Wolfgang Rihm, or John Williams. But he is probably a full glass, as it looks. Cause for this is what you see in this video.

[@ravenna6543]

Hans Zimmer just said that something Jacob does is "Way beyond me" I can't think of a better compliment from a better music design genius

[@EvilMrElmo]

right? that's like Gordon Ramsey saying to one of his hells kitchen cooks, "the amazing techniques you use to cook are way beyond me". zimmer may not be the greatest composer of all time but hes definitely in the top 5 living at the very least for me. hes personally my favorite.

[@paintbrush3753]

@@EvilMrElmoHe’s not greatest. Most famous? Yes. But to say he’s the greatest is a remarkably uninformed statement that neglects the brilliant works by many composers you haven’t bothered to learn of before making that bold claim.

[@EvilMrElmo]

@@paintbrush3753 you can seriously f*ck off with that pretentious crap. im quite aware of plenty lesser known modern composers that don't do movie or TV work... i just dont care for them.. i literally clarified top 5 LIVING and that hes my personal favorite among them. hes done peices for some of my favorite movies of all time going back to my childhood. excuse me for not liking modern composers because i prefer older works like Mendelssohn, Czerny and Rachmaninoff. you don't know a single thing about my music taste or my knowledge of it so your statement about what ive "bothered to learn" is entirely an assumption on your part and ironically i listen to more classical music than anyone i know. i get made fun of for it on a regular basis by my coworkers.

[@naughtywizard]

@@paintbrush3753 Autism

[@MiBasse]

@@paintbrush3753 Your reading comprehension appears to be lacking, even though your willingness to disparage others is definitely among the top 5 of this comment section.

[@penguinista]

"There's a whole bunch of inspiration within him he doesn't even know about yet" made my heart leap!

[@ace88bf]

it's kinda true though. as soon as jacob burst on the scene, everyone could tell he had unlimited potential. he just keeps doing things that nobody else has ever done before. because he started so young, we get to watch him develop and discover each new unprecedented level. it's become obvious that his well is still not fully tapped and may never be

[@DaMorg3]

I love that of all the movies Jacob chose to collab with Hans on, it was… Boss Baby 2, because of course it was. 🤦‍♂️ 😅🫠💀

[@WorldOfArtWorld]

I think Hans specifically invited him to this one. But the title is a funny 'coincidence' for sure

[@DaMorg3]

@@WorldOfArtWorld Oh, I know. And yes the title irony is a good call out… 😂 I missed that. But Hans has done MANY films. I just think it’s hilarious that the first film to be graced with Jacob’s talents is two steps away from the Emoji movie.

[@jj9749]

Possibly the worst children's movie of the last 10 years (and I have had to watch most of them).

[@Dramilos]

IS THAT WHY THE SOUNDTRACK TO THAT MOVIE GOES SO UNBELIEVABLY HARD???

[@Kevin42816]

@@Dramilos EXACCTLLYY I REMEMBER THINKING THE SAME THHIINNGGG

[@BenStarner]

Jacobs creativity is unparalleled. The only thing I’d like to see more from him is darkness. I’d love to see more minor, melancholy moods emanate from him. I love that his energy is so uplifting and joyous but I’m really curious to see what he’d do with the dark side of musical material.

[@MagicalWizard45]

He hasn't gotten to that arc yet, wait till he hits 30

[@MLunenborg]

@@MagicalWizard45I laughed, but it was with a sad face, because I realized this was true from the second I read that. And I think that's what Hans might have been eluding too, darkness in life, transforming into music.

[@WorldOfArtWorld]

I don't think darkness will do him any good. "Darkness" destroyed Mozart.

[@BenStarner]

@@WorldOfArtWorld that’s beside the point. I just wanna know what it’d sound like.

[@faland0069]

@@BenStarner his cover of "fix you" by coldplay sounds pretty sad and melancholic in my opinion. is that the kind of thing you are looking for? i guess if you're looking for original songs and not covers, he has one called "make me cry" which sounds almost halfway between sad and happy, like a sentimental feeling. there's a few sad lyrics sprinkled in there, too.

[@birdylove24]

It's great how one genius recognizes and appreciates another! Sign of a great and generous spirit! ❤

[@wurstfinger3289]

hans zimmer is no genius.

[@laughintrollface]

wrong@@wurstfinger3289

[@Aleksandr_Skrjabin]

@@wurstfinger3289 Yeah I wouldn't call them a Genius either but Zimmer is uniquely good in Composing without having to touch a paper,,

[@amarug]

@@wurstfinger3289 i used to say the same years ago, but i changed my mind. in the "arts" that word is even more flexible than it already is, and now looking back on all he has created, i need not to start discussing musical complexity and compare him to Shostakovich and others, but rather see how has created unique and extremely recognizable musical textures soundscapes that make him stand out still, after all that time and so many who tried to emulate him. Movie composers get hired because they are good, not because they turned into a brand that "sells". They get hired because they are able to create the atmospheres needed to elevate the movie to it's full potential. They are hired because they can guide the audiences emotions in a way the directors want it. Hans' accomplishments in this category are rivaled by few and many have tried. That makes him unique, sets him apart from most others and for that, to me, he is a genius. (yes yes, this is not a "who is best" discussion, there are many others with other styles and ideas that have done well, they are also geniuses)

@@wurstfinger3289 yeah he is just a producer

[@gretareinarsson7461]

JC is a force of nature. Reminds of young Björk. It would awesome to have them collaborate.

[@PaullieOllie]

I think they did collaborate some on the boss baby 2

[@MrSteelyDaniel]

@@PaullieOllie Indeed he did, he featured in the song 'If You Want to Sign Out, Sing Out' with James Marsden and Ariana Greenblatt.

[@crispybatman480]

Oh God, Björk... faded into obscurity for good reason..

[@R.W.D.-vs8xl]

I hear way more Imogen Heap than Björk, honestly

[@servvo]

​@@crispybatman480 i wouldn't say björk has 'faded into obscurity', shes just not a pop superstar...

[@Adamskyization]

Jacob is something else. I'm following him since the first YT video he published. If music is the matrix, Jacob is definitely the one.

[@RafaelLeeuwis]

I didn't like Jacob's music at the start. Weird voice, overly complex. But I kept watching and listening to study the phenomenon that he is, and now I love him. Several videos made me fall in love with him: - His Tiny Desk concert with 4 Jacobs (especially the last song He Won't Hold You) - His live performance of Saviour - His cover of Best Part with Daniel Cesar - Audience choir at Brixton O2 Academy

[@SteveJobIess]

Cant get over his voice. Ruins it.

[@timh8324]

I still agree with your first assessment and think Jacob is overrated. I like this quote from the NY Times "Jacob Collier is a staggering musical prodigy - with strangely mundane songs." Thats probably because there is a difference between being a musician who can create something interesting and someone who can write songs people enjoy. Like I instantly enjoyed Maggie Rogers songs. I find him trying to force his music to be hard and technical - but loses enjoyment. I like in Mr Holland's Opus when he talks about Louie Louie and how simplistic it is - the same 3 chords over and over and He loves it. - i think its like that. He needs to write it more for how it makes people feel.

[@skmgeek]

​@@timh8324cope

[@RafaelLeeuwis]

@@timh8324 I agree with the NY times quote! I think Jacob still has a lot to learn in terms of simplicity, but also understand his need to experiment and play around with the mountains of knowledge & skills that he has. I cannot wait to hear his more developed & mature music as he ages. But I also enjoy witnessing his journey right now. I'm curious what you'd think of last song on his second Tiny Desk concert, "He Won't Hold You". To me that's the first time where he gets the balance just right.

[@timh8324]

​@@RafaelLeeuwis Yeah - I found that interesting. Parts of it felt like some of the Victory Boyd stuff I had been listening to but it feels disjointed and a little jarring with the constant dynamic changes. It almost feels like whoever wrote it has serious adhd and cannot flow.

[@mikeg3439]

I hadn't heard of him and then I heard that Quincy Jones was fascinated with a young man named Jacob. That started me down a very deep rabbit hole.

[@tomwatson7626]

It's crazy just how talented he is, but subjectively I don't enjoy his music at all.

[@colindayo]

Yes, I kind of get that too, but I also feel like it’s my fault not his. He’s on another level to most mortals!

[@musicvisionariessecondmail9452]

He's interesting. I think he's more interested in pushing the boundaries of modern music in general, than in creating the next pop hit, (because I think he can).

[@Atlas65]

@@colindayo You speak like you know the emperor is naked, but then you convince your self that you simply don't get it ...common give your self a little more credit. The emperor is just naked, there is nothing there.

[@colindayo]

@@Atlas65 Well, who knows? You could be right. Options. That’s the beauty of art, innit? One things sure, he’s got an almost unbelievable gift with those ears of his!

[@zhazhagab0r]

​@@Atlas65It's experimental music. It's a bit like haute couture fashion. It's not meant to be pop music, it's meant to push boundaries. Some of those pushed boundaries will eventually make their way into popular music. We didn't get from Duke Ellington and Frank Sinatra to (insert your favorite modern artist here) without weird, sometimes off-putting experiments in-between. Some people prefer familiarity, some prefer novelty. Just because you don't like something does not make it valueless.

[@scottlarock7924]

I found one of his collaborations with snarky puppy one day and absolutely loved it. As others have said, I didn't connect with most of his other music. I appreciate his energy and his attention to what he is doing. He has a focus and of freedom. He also has lots of time to define himself musically. We shall see as it goes along.

[@kippys1]

Great to see Jacob Collier and Aurora performing together (and in Svalbard of all places)! Would like to hear more collaborations of those two!

[@Ceru427]

It's just so great to see two masters of music connecting with each other, especially when Hans Zimmer showed his respect to Jacob. It's like they've just got their own harmony

[@CypiXmusic]

Inspiring how hard he goes on stage as well with such melodic music

[@JeiShian]

Sooo happy for Jacob to be adored by Legends

[@orffrocks5667]

beautiful! a gift to humankind

[@Bixmy]

a legend talking about another legend in the making.

[@marcus_ohreallyus]

He's an example of an artist who doesn't restrain himself with theory, rules, etc. The same can apply for a great filmmaker or painter.

[@Gnurklesquimp2]

Exactly! ''Rules'' are just practices emerging from specific perspectives. If you wanna sound really traditional, you follow and break more specific rules in more specific ways, but there's all sorts of approaches that can lead you elsewhere. The more you learn about how different cultures go about structuring music and the more you just play around with that yourself, the more you realize it's a complete sandbox. You become open to abstract approaches never talked about in any books, and when you become confident and start to trust your ear, these approaches unlock new pathways for your ear to take. It's kinda hard to explain exactly what I mean at the moment, but after a while it becomes a bit less about chords and scales and inversions and omissions and cadences and modulations etc. etc., more just about intervals. I still love analyzing music in those terms and it is helpful at times, but when I see a target chord, for example, there's many ways besides a tritone sub or whatever to lead intervals there. Sometimes the chord I end up liking doesn't even have a particularly strong draw at all, and then there's ways to SET UP the expectations of how intervals want to move, essentially establishing your own rules. This also really helps with coherent chromatic writing, for example. And most importantly... It's just far too fun to play around, it's what I enjoy most about it. If I had to lock into one approach for the rest of my life, I'd burn out in a few weeks.

[@dylr7883]

It would be impossible for him to do what he does without being EXTREMELY studied in theory. He’s as much a scientist as a musician.

[@stefanmirica6485]

Rules are ways of organizing what we see. But they are not the cause of it. It's useful to organize, so long as we keep adding more to our organizationalal theories. Because organized patterns are easy to see. We just gotta keep adding, and adding, and adding. Until it looks like something completely new. Then we can cut down if we want.

[@TheRockinBK]

Your description perfectly applies to Zimmer as well. He & Collier operate at different ends of the spectrum & yet both approach music with such freshness & brilliance.

[@Moonlight_Pierrot]

The most beautiful thing about his music is that he never prioritises it to "reach" anyone, but to do what he really likes and wants, and this sincerity and pure happiness of making music is what makes him such a fantastic human being

[@beatsbygoldie2383]

I saw him at Glastonbury and tbh he was better than I expected. Some of the songs were better live than his recordings

[@svelvor]

Quand on pense qu'en France (d'où j'écris) ce pur génie est complétement méconnu, ignoré... Juste de l'autre côté de la manche. Si je l'ai découvert il y a une douzaine d'année juste en regardant KZbin, on pourrait tout de même imaginer que quelqu'un ait eu l'idée de l'inviter au hasard d'une émission dite musicale. J'ai vraiment l'impression de vivre dans un pays d'arriérés et de débiles profonds. Et quand on écoute la radio ou regarde la télé, on se rend compte que ce n'est pas qu'une impression. Nos victoires de la musique, qui sont à des années lumière des grammy awards, récompensent en circuit fermé les mêmes crétins qui sont à la musique ce que Richard Clederman était à Chopin.

[@Artfulscience1]

He is truly something else

[@markaprill6501]

Jacob Collier is a special person..it’s obvious he has different capabilities.

[@SRSR-pc8ti]

Listening to his music leaves me flabbergasted, joyful and frequently laughing.

[@wilkesreid]

For everyone commenting how they think his music is purely technical and not emotional at all, either you haven't yet been exposed to the varied kinds of music that exist in different parts of the world, or you haven’t really listened to Jacob Collier. Listen to Little Blue, Time to Rest Your Weary Head, Once You, Moon River, and Hideaway. I struggle to understand how someone would find those emotionally bland.

[@wilkesreid]

Jacob would also be the first one to say it’s fine if you don’t like his music, cause everyone experiences music differently and it’s all just an exploration. I enjoy seeing someone who has grace and humility even towards those who dislike him.

[@kimseniorb]

I’m not a fan of his stuff at all. but can’t argue that he is a genius

[@wilkesreid]

@@kimseniorb like I’m not a fan of Jay-Z cause I don’t enjoy listening to the music, but I wouldn’t demean the reality of his skill and impact on music

[@bunglebenjoyer]

JC’s music is what happens when an immensely talented person never learns the lesson “less is more” and the result is impressive slop and an airhead

[@timh8324]

@@wilkesreid I think he forces it and tries too hard.

[@avinashwakchaure2690]

you - alexandar , saying listen to his live music (answer to the people saying his songs are soulless) is great point because i cant imagine how its will like to be that the audience singing choir , in the videos it sounds like heaven and in between poeple singing it , it would be somthing else. I Personally think his compositions and more importantly lyric writing would improve someday

[@DrGregWeisswasserND]

Jacob blows my musical mind.

[@ttghhgg1918]

He is god gifted but he doesn’t know how to make music I can bet his music is easily forgettable

[@DrGregWeisswasserND]

@@ttghhgg1918 His songs get caught in my head regularly. So for me they are not forgettable. To each their own. Check out my music at #majikband and maybe one of my songs will get stuck in your head. Our motto is “ There is a song for everyone”.

[@janfyhrholdt2788]

"Jacob blows my musical mind" Kind of musical blowjob then. I didn't know he played that instrument.

[@mahina1963]

"...That he doesn't even know about yet." 100%, yes.

[@icemancometh1188]

Someday he will produce a song that sounds good to my ear and resonates with my soul, and it will be glorious.

[@marysusansusan]

Have you listened to all of his music? He has a pretty huge variety of stuff

[@stevebeye1585]

I agree with this statement. Look at the Beatles, if you could only hear one half of their career, with the other half being completely wiped from the earth, first half, or last half, which would you want to keep?!? I would definitely do away with their earlier works. Period. End of discussion. Look at it that way. I’m looking forward to a more seasoned Jacob.

[@lanamcco9715]

You should listen to Eric Whitacre. He has the heavenly chords + full sounding choir + soul you are looking for. Lux Aurumque caught my attention on the 1st note, especially with the virtual choir version. Sleep is another gorgeous song that you need in your life.

[@jaycllarke7650]

Yeah and will be able to say’The Iceman melteth’

[@SteelOnVR]

You know your special when the legends are in awe of you

[@vickiangus1520]

It's an incredible inspirational blessing to witness a human being doing EXACTLY what he was born to do!!!

[@colindayo]

💕And since we all discovered him on KZbin, we all feel like we own him, we know him, and we’re part of his journey 💕

[@averyellis]

“A whole bottle of inspiration in him he doesn’t even know about” is absolute recognition from someone who knows the process and the path and the journey.

[@Danywachy]

I admire Jacob even as someone with zero knowledge of music theory I could in stantly see that he was very special from the very first time I saw him at a ted talk. He seems to see and understand music at a level where almost no one if not no one can understand. Its almost as if a robot with advanced AI was creating music for smarter people, yet for all the praise and love he can get I still think that beyond technicalities jacob has yet to create his true master pieces yet. There are things in life that go beyond mere talent and that is to live life, experience emotions wether that is sadness, melancholy, grief which inspire artists to trascend, he still has not gotten there yet.

[@WorldOfArtWorld]

Agree, though it was funny you named three "emotions" on the negative spectrum. There are thousands of emotions/feelings and an artist or a human is not limited to experiencing the "negative" ones to transcend whatever he wants or needs to transcend.

[@Danywachy]

I agree I just named a few@@WorldOfArtWorld

[@TopLobsters]

@@WorldOfArtWorldJacob is someone who has clearly grown up in a very privileged upbringing. Nothing wrong with that, but you’re not going to get much soul or emotion in his work. Of course everything he does is going to be positive. He’s never lived in the real world. That’s why very few people connect with his music. Let’s be brutally honest here, he’s a rich kid motivated by showing us how clever he is.

[@pettyflower5938]

@@TopLobstersthat’s an absolutely incorrect assessment of collier’s work and accomplishments. Jacob is a musical community leader. It’s pretty clear to me that all he wants to do is make good music with other people. I think you may just need to cultivate your mind more to understand where he is coming from.

[@edouardbrasseur1038]

I dont really like how Collier sounds. But hes the definition of a genius !

[@RC-qf3mp]

Sounds like you’re letting other people do the thinking for you. Pathetic.

[@AstorSkywalker]

This is what boggles my mind about Jacob..... He's just getting started!!!!

[@OiforEngland]

Buggles my mind.

[@imnotrussian9463]

All this legends coming to Hans Zimmer's front door not to see him but Jacob Collier is crazy.

[@pettyflower5938]

It makes sense to me, I guess those who get it just get it.

[@jayclarke5466]

Well put, Zimmer s a fine craftsman for music for film…but he ain’t going to astound Herbie or Chick w his ideas…Jacob will

[@janfyhrholdt2788]

"All this legends coming to Hans Zimmer's front door not to see him but Jacob Collier is crazy" Well, you see, one thing is still valid and appreciated, even if everything else in this world is forgotten, including music, and that one thing is beauty. Something Jacob have and Hans have not. That's why they prefer Jacob.

[@TheRockinBK]

⁠​⁠@@jayclarke5466Pretty sure Herbie & Chick have a wide understanding of music enough to appreciate that “genius” isn’t exclusive to harmonic complexity, but can also be found in carefully crafted simplicity, sound design etc .. and therefore yes, they would be astounded by Zimmer’s ideas.

[@mesajam4894]

Imagine you're like 20 years old and Chick Corea and Herbie Hancock come to see you, because of your musical experience, and to play with you.. What a gem... I'm over 30 and try to play jazz for 10 years now and the world of knowledge between me and Jacob is astonishing... And i worked and praticed a lot and a lot and a lot. I did huge progress, but i'm nowhere near what I want to sound, and light years from geniuses like Collier, Chick Corea, Hancock.. Maybe music is just not my thing. I don't know how to feel right now

[@WorldOfArtWorld]

He's literally been immersed in it since he was 3/4/5 years old. It's all he did. His mom, Suzie Collier, is also a great musician, violinist, conductor, music teacher. So that's the one thing Jacob majored in his life. All he did at home was play music with his family. He skipped music college or academy, so he had lots of free time as well. He was accepted into Royal Academy of Music, but dropped out a few weeks or months after, realizing it wasn't his way. Hope this sheds some light and context as to why he may be/seem to be lightyears ahead. It's all he knew for the past 29 years. Cheers!

[@jayclarke5466]

Don’t feel bad million’s of working and practicing musicians feel the same

[@SoulHydron]

The way he makes music is magical

[@premprakashkretzschmar6482]

Exploring, expanding in playing -> Loving Living as divinely designed 😍😇🥰🤪😁😆😂😘

[@jamespagdilao2531]

Have you noticed that Jacob’s music has evolved from the virtuoso making videos in his home studio with 1000 part complex but way too busy constant harmonies, to masterfully integrating his genius into music more suitable for the every day listener while creating an almost cinematic style of modulation and dynamic changes that catch our ears just enough, then brings us back to earth? It will take a while but eventually everyone else will catch on. The greatest composers and musicians of all time and their hits were all made to cater to the 99%, and he’s getting close.

[@rossxoworld]

I wouldn’t even say that, I’d say he’s pursuing the research of how music works and what happens along the way he likes to share. No doubt commercial success pushed him to make some more accessible stuff but I seriously doubt he will ever want to make music in that realm. Just my theory tho. Completely agree he’s refined what he puts out

[@LeonardTavast]

JC is a genius pop composer. It would be interesting to see a collab between him and Max Martin because they are geniuses in two very different ways and that could spawn something novel.

[@jonathanrao6498]

I think he is a genius musical composer who loves to welcome people inside his magical world. It's a very good thing that he tries to influence the pop culture, can't wait for what is coming, he has a whole life to explore

[@johnlemon874]

Truth is his music is just not good. He might be a genius in his knowledge, yet he has no idea what to do with it or how to write music that connects with people. Given all the boosts, people talking about him and collabs he got over the years, he still sits at 2 million monthly listeners.

[@jayclarke5466]

@@johnlemon874as opposed to Taylor Swift? I wonder who sold more records in the 1940’s Andrew Sisters or Igor Stravinsky…of course the Andrew sisters were better

[@jaycllarke7650]

Max and JC would prob not work.Max s goal is to produce and write a kick ass great pop song…Jacobs in search of something else…they re both brilliant sonically

[@silviomp]

I do enjoy his music. It's the melody, the harmony, the crazy sounds, the microtones, how his arrangements vary in one song.

[@DigitaIJustice]

The world has come together to say that this one guy is the future of music

[@ttghhgg1918]

Lmao never he is a guy who can play 1000 instruments but he can’t make music even a ukulele player will outshine collier n collier is a product of this genz woke vulture who have no taste so when this usless generation will be washed in few years so will collier die with them

[@rossxoworld]

@@ttghhgg1918oof man didn’t know Hans and Herbie were genz. They look terrible for their age

[@moniquevanoosterhout6101]

Just love you guys! Such inspiration and musical explosiveness, yet so personable and curtuous! ❤🎉

[@JoelLavoieMusic]

I love this story. Lucky you built that studio Mr. Zimmer

[@SonidosEnArmonia_1992]

Music is not the same after Jacob Collier. Music has evolved with him.

[@ToxicTurtleIsMad]

No

[@kokomanation]

I think he is very good

[@oldnwise8123]

Hans = nice man

[@blind_t2]

I heard glimpses of him as I’ve got his name dropped by a few friends, but really got a dive into him with his collab with Tori Kelly. sheesh, that man does stuff even I as a musician am like, what? where he come from with all that.

[@jayclarke5466]

Alpha Centuri

[@jonnowocky8179]

JC is the human embodiment of ‘just because you can doesn’t mean that you should’

[@nsnz]

Why, if people enjoy what he can do, why shouldn't he do it?

[@rossxoworld]

ayyyyy just like ur comment!

[@isabellp.5730]

I wish I could love his music. I know how talented he is, how extraordinary these sounds he makes are. But I have sensory processing disorder and it’s physically painful to listen to any of his music precisely because it’s so complex. So, I try to be content with watching the effects of perhaps the only musical genius of my generation, instead of being able to experience it myself. It makes me so sad. I am, however, so glad so many people can listen to it without pain, though. Enjoy it all the more for me, you beautiful souls.

[@jayclarke5466]

U might want to avoid Bach Mozart and Ricard Stauss…they re pretty complex a s well

[@dxnxz53]

so coooooool

[@trevin716]

Am I the only one here who really likes his crazy, stupidly complex stuff? 😅 Idk, the insane complexity is what got me into his music in the first place. It's also just really fun (at least for me) to try and take it all in and decipher everything. However I do see where you guys are coming from when you say it doesn't have much emotional depth lol

[@crispybatman480]

It's like someone hit scramble on an AI music generator. Fine if you enjoy the chaos, I guess. Otherwise it sounds like a kid playing with musical instruments and mouthing gibberish.

[@trevin716]

@@crispybatman480 I shall indeed enjoy the chaos 😌

[@rossxoworld]

@@crispybatman480this was kinda the equivalent of saying “yeah man you like garbage, you listen to baby music, I know better, but go off!” Just so kind and respectful and insightful. 💜

[@crispybatman480]

@@rossxoworld Some people like to huff petrol fumes, doesn't take much respect or insight to recognize that isn't a generally appealing preference.

[@rossxoworld]

@@crispybatman480 ur ignoring my actual comment. You’re an asshole, you spend time demeaning other people for commenting they enjoy something. Does that seem like a useful thing for you? Any other daring life prospects you wanna share?

[@Kyulnjir]

I looked through _all_ the comments and I'm the only one to bring up the fact he was stroking the dog with his foot

[@bendunsmuir1860]

It's the over-the-top praise that most triggers all those who struggle to find Jacob's music worthwhile/enjoyable/relatable. And more praise is not good for Jacob. We all need to pull him back down to earth. He needs constructive feedback. But probably, he just needs more life experiences, depth, maturity, emotion to draw from. He seems to admit that less is more, yet he's still intent on exploring the furthest reaches of 'more'. And he's still intent on 'innovating' and 'impressing' when I really wish he would focus on 'satisfying' and/or 'emotionally affecting/stirring/inspiring' his listeners. I think he has a long way to go to touch back down with some grounded, relatable, soulful music after his scattered, off-putting, restless, celestial journey. Great guy, by the way. I'll check back in with him in another few months.

[@JeatBunkie]

Huge ego on this kid. Yes, talented, but not creative or original in the sense that the legends are/were. (Herbie, Chick, Quincy etc.)

[@WorldOfArtWorld]

Huge ego.... Ha-ha, you're delusional, bro.

[@janfyhrholdt2788]

I couldn't agree more. However "less is more" as you wrote. So this is an exception where I'm not more right the lesser I agree. In Jacob's case less clothes would be more. And also less of all the other facades he is hiding behind; The eternally happy face, the grandios and bombastic body language, and last but not least the constant political correctness in his spoken words, not for a millisecond expressing anything offensive. He reminds me of Jim Carrey, when he actually said that he, Jim Carrey did in fact not exist. He didn't exist because he was a construction to please the audience. He deliberately optimized his behavior for that purpose sacrificing himself or the potential to be a real person. However he seems to have created his own jokes, while Jacob Colliers music is all about bad and pointless imitations of other peoples work Jacob Collier is not an actor but a musician, however everything he does musically and the way he acts is to please the audience. He is expected to be a genius, then he act accordingly to expectations without any own ideas. He just repeats the "classic experimental style" I am familiar with since the 1960:s. And heard recordings of microtonal, atonal and everything between from at least 100 years back. He is the opposite of avant-garde. He is no more than maybe a potential genius until he does something truly original, which never happened yet. His audience calls him "genius" all the time over and over again. For a few reasons; The audience is stupid and Jacob Collier is the first artist in around 25 years not being a totally talentless woman. The epithet "GENIUS" itself is looking for hosts, and someone have to be called genius after a very long time of intellectual decline. The fundamental requirements for being a genius is first and foremost not being a woman, an essential property for a genius as far as I know. In this regard Jacob have no competition in a de facto matriarchal society. There is only one new musical genius today, that I know of, however not beautiful as Jacob, hence a trillion times less popular than Jacob, only called a genius by one or two music critics. If Jacob Collier didn't have his good looks and charm, then nobody would ever call him a genius. Even if he fulfill the requirements of being a non female and involved in something supposed to be intellectual. However I like him for more substantial reasons than his stupified and even zombiefied audience does. They are just pretentious losers trying to give the impression of education and cultural awareness by creating an imaginary pseudo genius as a subcultural alternative to the real culture. I first thought Jacob was the evil sect leader, but he is just a victim of peoples stupidity, possibly also of his own mother who is in the music business. Jacob Collier certainly have more talents than any other new "artists", however I refuse to call him genius just because he is smarter than Adele, Shakira and the rest of the women in the industry. Even a pile of dogshit would be smarter than them. His fans only mention Mozart and a couple of musicians nobody ever heard about before they met Jacob. They know nothing about music, or anything which explains why they live in a subculture they created for themselves. As you called Jacob Collier "great guy" I must agree with that also. He plays a lot of instruments and sings in addition. Good speaker also. The choice of notes and words respectively could be better though.

[@threethrushes]

I have no idea who Jacob Collier is, but he seems to understand musical theory rather well. Imagine the symphonies he could create if he had the discipline and intent.

[@WorldOfArtWorld]

Exactly!

[@BobSchoepenjr]

If Zimmer says it, believe it

[@stephenbradbury3347]

I've only heard of Jacob Collier recently because of the KZbin algorithm spamming my page up with him.

[@daaave2142]

If hans zimmer puts you in an echelon above himself then youre doing something special

[@Gnurklesquimp2]

Hans said the quartertone stuff is way beyond him, but I actually think playing around with tuning could easily be something he'd excel at. He has a bit of a focus on color in my experience, kind of an impressionistic feeling to a lot of it, if I could nudge him... It would probably be towards modal jazz inspiration and microtonality. +Jacob needs to do more sound design stuff, he should work with people like Hans Zimmer more for sure. Could you imagine Jacob Collier X Hans Zimmer X Amon Tobin, for example? Jacob X KNOWER X Noisia? It's just so wild to imagine what these things could sound like. Throw Jacob's voice in a sampler/wavetable synth and you're cooking.

[@jayclarke5466]

Indians and Arabic composers have no probs w 1/4 tones

[@Gnurklesquimp2]

@@jayclarke5466 Yep, more people just need to get used to it! Even as far as western stuff goes, some blues singers and guitarists had awesome nuanced notes, and plenty of vocalists etc. gravitate towards harmonic series stuff like the harmonic 7th without even realizing it. (Indonesian Gamelan is also AWESOME, they basically tune to the weird overtones, even the octaves are stretched) What seems pretty new though, there finally is a proper (niche) community of people playing around with tunings outside of their (Sometimes already complex) cultural norms. There is something ironic to me about how we're all so ravenous for finding new chord sounds within 12EDO while most people completely ignore the stuff outside. While limitations are great, we could switch up the specific limitations. Imagine all our clothes shared the exact same 12 color hues... We could still all look awesome, but why let all those other colors go to waste?

[@jaycllarke7650]

@@Gnurklesquimp2 I used to gig w Arabic musicians…they do it in their sleep…BUT…they do have special tunedcYamaha ,Korg etc keyboards microtuned for 1/4 tones. And they re NOT trying to write Western styles music w 1/4 tones

[@pettyflower5938]

Seeing Jacob collier live was a religious experience for me. I then understood why his music doesn’t translate well to recorded, commercial tracks. It’s got a very improvisational feel that just needs to be witnessed in person. I think his music transcends the category of “product” and enters its own category of sensory and community experience, kind of like creative music therapy actually

[@ernestguinovart1651]

Just like your comment while returning from his concert… UNBELIEVABLE

[@ygoeb13]

I think for many people there is a big difference between technically amazing composition and that which is pleasing to listen to. I fully recognize the genius of JC and what he puts on paper, but I rarely listen to his music because FOR ME it is not pleasant to listen to

[@lanamcco9715]

Eric Whitacre is what you are looking for. Heavenly harmonies with a full, soulful choir sound. Sleep is perfect, imo. His virtual choir version of Lux Aurumque is absolutely fantastic from the 1st note.

[@jaggerlags]

For someone who doesn’t know him (and didn’t really get much from this video) what should a newbie jump into of his?

[@samothchipmah8808]

There are so many different songs. Check his channel and just listen. Thats the first thing I heard years ago, and I immediately knew, here is one the greatest muscians on earth. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKbEaWZnqtmqg68&pp=ygUNY29sbGllciBmbGludA%3D%3D

[@lunkhead54]

"Don't You Know?" with Michael League's Snarky Puppy and Danny Boy (Maida Vale session, BBC), both from eight years ago. There's the spark.

[@jaggerlags]

@@lunkhead54 Thanks 👍

[@francoislebois]

I know most people don't enjoy jacobs music much, probably a bit too avant garde for the global taste in music industry, but listen to "This is what I mean" by Stormzy where he does a collab, this song is insane

[@CapitanTartaria]

Just wow❤️‍🔥

[@LawryBoyer]

Jacob and Hans are near opposites. Both immensely talented and formulaic. For Hans the formula is his strength, for jacob, his limitation. That would be a wicked mentorship duo

[@meepk633]

I love the idea of Jacob just Deebo'ing an entire studio.

[@gmsanna25]

yeah, it's very "easy" when you are the son of what you are....

[@PaulMacklinAmazing]

Some people lived in the time of Bach, some Mozart, some Beethoven. I feel blessed to live in the time of Collier! Perhaps he's not yet created music of the grand scale of these three masters, but he's young and the best is yet to come.

[@jayclarke5466]

But unlike those music giants…Collier created his own vids as well

[@eddiedevriesz]

Lol

[@jepz11]

Appreciation from you, Hans Zimmer must make everyone know what new grounds Jacob breaks *with* all of us listeners. Jacob Collier turns all of us into musicians. All we need to do is let him.

[@janfyhrholdt2788]

"Jacob Collier turns all of us into musicians" WRONG, he turns all of us into gays, if we were not before. "All we need to do is let him" Certainly I agree with that. "What new grounds Jacob breaks with all of us listeners" That would be a world without women. In this second coming of JC, Gods plan is to correct the big mistake he did when he created the women. All humans will look exactly like Jacob Collier. I wish I looked like him. (I'M NOT IRONICAL ) Jacob Collier is the most beautiful human ever set foot on this planet, even if he was absent for 2000 years. Welcome back Jacob! We love you.

[@psychoticteeth]

Zimer helpeded me walk agAin. Fakt!

[@IrishRepoMan]

Seems like a dude who is good at turning random noises into something harmonious. I don't get the noises, or find them particularly catchy, but I hear the harmony.

[@samholder196]

yeah the dude is our Mozart. I think he actually is.

[@TAP7a]

Jacob is your favourite musician's favourite musician

[@jaycllarke7650]

The more you understand music, the more u revere the unfathomable one …JC

[@Christopher-ts4cs]

What is the intro song?

[@dylankallicharan9098]

Jacob collier- fascinating rhythm

[@Radio-sb5cv]

i want to know which hair dryer he uses

[@WorldOfArtWorld]

Hahaha

[@mogamush]

just the natural english wind

[@michaelcorcoran3942]

Could you guys recommend any good songs by him. He seems to know music on a better level than anyone I've seen but I'm yet to hear a song I liked. And I like all music. Admittedly I have not heard a lot of his songs

[@erstereihe5272]

Live he is incredible

[@ToxicTurtleIsMad]

See, these 2 are a good example to look at. One is fully versed in theory and much more knowledgeable in it than the other. But one is a real artist, with a poetic vision and emotion.

[@olivercharles2930]

both are real artists

[@WyattLite-n-inn]

Hans initially put Ableton live on the map .

[@jayclarke5466]

And Cubase

[@ktrethewey]

When you are in the presence of genius you wont like everything it creates.

[@n.a.f.k]

What an honor for Hans Zimmer being able to speak on this topic

[@janfyhrholdt2788]

Amazing Hans Zimmer can speak at all assuming he must be deaf like Beethoven. Or maybe he had ear plugs when he met Jacob.

[@jblen]

No way this is how I found out Hanz Zimmer did the music to boss baby, and also there is a boss baby 2 that features Jacob Collier as vocals... I probably still wont watch it but thats funny.

[@lanamcco9715]

Just search the soundtrack on youtube or your music streaming platform of choice. Anything Hans Zimmer touches is worth a listen outside of the movie itself, its that good.

[@ThunderBlastvideo]

Insane that hans knows who he is. Just shows you how talented he is

[@teejayyz]

Not shocked at all that Zimmer knows who he is. Zimmer has been touring with Guthrie Govan (guitarist known from youtube) for years now, and Tina Guo the electric cellist, he asked to record with him after he saw her on America's Got Talent. So it's clear that he recognizes young talent, especially when they're doing something unorthodox

[@CarstenNRW]

Jacob is 29 (like Justin Bieber who everyone knows forever), worked with David Crosby, Coldplay, SZA, JoJo and others and he won 5 Grammy. Would be crazy if a composer like him who always has to watch out for musicians also for his film scores wouldn't know him. Jacob isn't some 16 years old new talent...

[@realitycheck816]

What does he do that’s so good can someone explain

[@WorldOfArtWorld]

It’s somewhere bellow in the comments

[@jayclarke5466]

Harmony , rhythm, , melody, timbre. And dynamics…oh wait….Music

[@eddiedevriesz]

Marketing and blackmail

[@masonmount17]

Nice compilation but you should give credit to the original video

[@WorldOfArtWorld]

Done. It's from the BBC Docummentary "In The Room Where It Happens". Thank you!

[@MrSiloterio]

Jacob's greatest achievement is being the most AI sounding human musician ever.

[@janfyhrholdt2788]

If he IS human. He is too nice to be human. He sounds like AI because he is AI. A robot no less.Who sent him? And for what purpose?

[@jaycllarke7650]

Jacob developed his music @ Alpha Centuri…after studying in the Andromeda strain

[@WorldOfArtWorld]

What do you think about Jacob Collier?

[@yohenson]

not sure about the inspiration he doesn't know he have, i think he doesn't know he doesn't have. but he's a great musician and very original. I just think there are better composers than him, and better song writers, and singers, not sure he knows his way around authenticity yet-but if he will ever, yes he can be one of the greatest-in the classic sense-not in the gimmick sense, which is what he is now.

[@nikhil_jadhav]

As much as I love Hans I don’t know any single song from Jacob. I’m literally searching on KZbin why it’s Jacob Collier so special. I’m hoping someone to dub it down for me so that I can understand and connect to his music. Otherwise I’ll always feel meh about Jacob.

[@WorldOfArtWorld]

Check Moon River (cover), his music lectures/masterclasses, "With the love of my heart" song or some of his live performances where he performs Queen covers if you like. I think he's an interesting character.

[@Crybaby-Media]

2:35-2:41 Can anyone tell me what song/performance this is? Please? 😬

[@JeatBunkie]

It’s called ‘Jacob Collier rips off Bon Iver’

[@vanixc7]

Whats the name of the song at 2:34 ? :)

[@terrymalloy9416]

I’d also be interested to know this answer

[@milodube1631]

moral of the story: I dont think you can argue against personal taste some like Jacob some dont

[@bflmpsvz870]

You nailed it.

[@MaxwellBergen]

theres nothing hes written that I enjoy listening too though

[@eagle-eye29]

Just remember people didn’t like Mozart in his day either.

[@TwoTwoFourSix]

His music is more of an intellectual practice rather than a soul filler. Now we can argue the semantics of both but we all truly understand that and it wouldn’t be such a common sentiment if it wasn’t true.

[@jaycllarke7650]

James Brown =soul John Lennon=not soul Stevie Wonder =soul James Taylor=not soul Does that make Lennon and Taylor worse?

[@emanuel_soundtrack]

What makes someone a genius?

[@carlsong6438]

Uniquely effortless mental ability. You can get more granular, but we have to clarify what kind of geniuses we are talking about

[@jas_bataille]

@@carlsong6438 I respectfully disagree. What makes someone a genius is pushing the boundaries of whatever field they're in - how much efforts it takes, we don't actually know. It may appears effortless, but such is the trickery of art... Einstein once said, "the only fundamental difference between me and the average person is that I never give up on a problem until I solve it."

[@carlsong6438]

@jas_bataille the quote is a little different than that I think, but that aside, I think that just means he's not as genius as other great minds in his field, but he was tenacious which is most certainly true. But if being a genius is about effort or what you do, rather than capacity, I think we are just talking past each other because we have fundamentally different ideas about what the word means. In my experience, people tend to refer to mental capacity in one facet or another, without regard to someone's character traits like perseverance

[@pamposzek]

​@@carlsong6438 Maybe it's a bit of both. Someone can achieve a lot with only hard work, but without that "effortless mental ability", there's only so far one can go. Same the other way around - maybe there are geniuses in fields that they never put much effort in, but that genius is not realized then. I kinda assume by default that obviously required work is put in, and Jacob definitely put up his work - I remember him saying that he works insane amount of hours a day and doesn't sleep much. So, combined with his ability to do advanced things effortlessly, it leads to achieving things that most wouldn't achieve even with maximum effort, because they wouldn't simply have enough time. Other than that, there comes scope and depth of thinking, imagination, when we're talking about music. Even if it's only about pushing boundaries, I think Jacob did that with his microtonal approach, not in the sense of using microtones, but meshing it successfully with pop songs for example.

[@emanuel_soundtrack]

most people here show to never have studied nothing about geniality. And confuse this with being wunderkind

[@KyleHurd]

Hans Zimmerman has hero’s?! Has he heard the Interstellar soundtrack? 😂