Hans Zimmer & James Newton Howard - Music of "The Dark Knight"

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Rick Beato

Rick Beato

Күн бұрын

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@Sorc47
@Sorc47 7 жыл бұрын
Come on people, when Rick says it's simple, he's not hating on Hans, stop overreacting. The music really is simple and it's powerful mostly because of the production, not composition. But sometimes that's just the effect you want to get and I personally love it.
@ajallen6980
@ajallen6980 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, Knee Play 1 is simple, but that doesn’t stop Einstein on the Beach from being a genius piece of music. Minimalism has a place
@suprchickn7745
@suprchickn7745 4 жыл бұрын
Hans is essentially a minimalist composer but his use of chord progressions is what makes him stand out imo.
@aniruddh_d16
@aniruddh_d16 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. Batman's theme is just 2 notes and it portrayed a range of different emotions for the character.
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@isaacholden3200 3 жыл бұрын
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@isaacholden3200 3 жыл бұрын
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@JoshuaCastillo6309
@JoshuaCastillo6309 3 жыл бұрын
When you listen to Hans score of The Lion King or Man of Steel, you can see what he’s truly capable of but sorta holds back these days. Either way, his music hits the soul no matter how simple it may be 🤘
@RobinsMusic
@RobinsMusic 10 ай бұрын
correction, how he used to have more ghost writers but now does it himself
@ThePoorBoy
@ThePoorBoy 4 жыл бұрын
When I first saw Batman Begins and heard the ostinatos (they're really the musical spine of the Dark Knight trilogy), I got the impression that they were intended to musically represent the sound of bat wings flapping.
@finnicol-taylor2976
@finnicol-taylor2976 3 жыл бұрын
I, funnily enough, felt it might have been some kind of reference to the na-na-na-na-na-na-na-batmaaaan adam west theme.
@sunsettosound
@sunsettosound 7 жыл бұрын
It truly is the percussion and effects that gives it it's real power and feel. As an aspiring composer that isn't musically trained, but has an infinite world of Kontakt drum samples this gives me hope, lol.
@abdulalshibly3930
@abdulalshibly3930 5 жыл бұрын
I think the simplicity of the orchestral writing(not really but he is using simple harmony concepts that sound great) from Hans and his powerful effects and drums is what makes this kind of tracks his signature sound. P.S.: Simple doesn't mean bad
@october65-h6e
@october65-h6e 2 жыл бұрын
I´m really happy that I was able to saw both composers live on stage, at several concerts and I can honestly say that dreams came true. I love scores of these two because I like the more elektronical style of Hans Zimmer on the one hand and the more classical style of James Newton Howard on the other. At the moment I listen to the soundtracks of the Fantastic Beasts series on a daily basis. Love both!!!
@Mazeltof90
@Mazeltof90 25 күн бұрын
Brilliant- thank you Rick! Hope you have enjoyed the movie as well. Everything in this trilogy is so well crafted. Everything.
@sup3414
@sup3414 4 жыл бұрын
Hans Zimmer: Master of Ostinatos and Arpeggios
@abbasalikhan
@abbasalikhan 7 жыл бұрын
hans zimmer has his strong points. he depends more on the sounds that he uses. his melodies are simple and maybe thats why they are more relatable. plus offcourse the hybrid arrangments that he does. he is different and we cant take that away from him.
@lukehunnable
@lukehunnable 4 жыл бұрын
Whats a hybrid arrangement?
@abbasalikhan
@abbasalikhan 4 жыл бұрын
@@lukehunnable hybrid means when u use the conventional orchestra with computer generated sounds like synths etc
@ToxicTurtleIsMad
@ToxicTurtleIsMad 5 ай бұрын
The melody needs to be simple otherwise it will detach from the image.
@マシュードーラン
@マシュードーラン Жыл бұрын
Hans captures our emotions and takes them on a ride with every soundtrack he creates. Moving, powerful, gorgeous and so many others. It can be simple at times, complex at others but always perfectly compliments what’s on the screen. Just a brilliant composer and a down to earth lovable guy!
@dosgos
@dosgos 7 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate these superb videos Rick! What a great public service
@jesusbudda7622
@jesusbudda7622 7 жыл бұрын
another excellent video, Rick. Best and most informative channel on KZbin. Keep up the brilliant work. And thanks.
@syen3rgymusic
@syen3rgymusic 3 жыл бұрын
Hans is my ultimate favorite composer though I have so many! Really enjoyed "Watch the World Burn" and "Aggressive Expansion" from this soundtrack. Love King Kong from James Newton Howard we also share the same birthday on June 9! :D
@MoosCode
@MoosCode 4 жыл бұрын
If Hans wasn't a genius none of modern composers would copycat him : ) He has a powerful sense of the drama of the scene which make his music stand out.
@michaell2288
@michaell2288 7 жыл бұрын
I love both of these composers so thanks for dissecting these pieces. Hans' ostinato parts are amazing and really what makes these soundtracks so powerful and epic! From your video, I realized how he uses them to build tension and power.
@danagboyer
@danagboyer 7 жыл бұрын
Rick...THANK. YOU. Your channel is quickly becoming all I watch on KZbin. Magic for us music-magic people.
@sanzen1234
@sanzen1234 5 жыл бұрын
It's not about the complexity its about the creation and coming up with the right notes in the right places with the mood he sets to achieve certian feelings during the movie
@RomainPennesComposer
@RomainPennesComposer 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Rick, Your videos are very educational and I feel like I learned more by watching your videos for the past 2 monthes than I've learned in the past 2 years. I feel like many people criticize Hans Zimmer for doing always the same things (ostinatos over huge percussions for instance). I believe it to be true when listening to batman soundtracks and many of his recent work. But I feel like music from Kung Fu Panda, Pirates of the Caribbean, Gladiator, Da Vinci Code, The Lion King, Rain Man, Sherlock Holmes explore many other genres and styles, and that there are many things that we (beginners in composition, orchestration and mixing) can certainly learn from. Thank you again, I really love your work, and the fact that you are being so active.
@isaachunter2472
@isaachunter2472 6 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a video about James Newton Howard on the Hunger Games specifically his healing Katniss song or Rue's farewell music because of the use of the guitar.
@OptimusNiaa
@OptimusNiaa 7 жыл бұрын
I've recently discovered your channel, and am thoroughly enjoying your videos. I'm a fan of composers like Williams, Newman, Goldsmith, Silvestri, Broughton, Barry, Herrmann, and others. When I saw you had a video on Hans Zimmer, I was very curious what the tone would be, and what your assessment of Zimmer's music would be. The video did not disappoint, sir. From the very beginning to the very end. Truthfully even exceeded my expectations.
@jimsteele9289
@jimsteele9289 5 жыл бұрын
Zimmer is brilliant and you're merely smart. What he applies works for the scene. Anxious to see you do that.
@3bandEQ
@3bandEQ 3 жыл бұрын
Playing along with this on my guitar, instantly realize the benefit of a Baritone guitar. Convincing myself I need one, or at least, its extended range is my justification. Lol. Rad lesson.
@TheMarktouan
@TheMarktouan 7 жыл бұрын
Hello Rick! I am a huge fan of your videos. Really interesting and helpful! Your videos helped me to understand jazz modes much better. I would love to see a video with you explaining modern pop songwriting (Max Martin, Dr. Luke etc). It would be really exciting! Thanks once more and many greetings from Austria!
@theviolinoob
@theviolinoob 7 жыл бұрын
it's simple, but they come with this thing as a new idea,and it fits perfect in the movie that's the point. It have some original ideas thought like that crispy cello glissando sound in the beginning of the dark knight robbery scene. And that 5/4 theme from Dark knight rises. Dark knight series is all about ostinatos and repetitions.You should make an analysis about the really beautiful theme from Batman begins like Corynorhinus it' has an nice melodic theme.
@J1283-s1k
@J1283-s1k 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed man but the funny thing about Corynorhinus is it's almost entirely James Newton Howard and it's understandable because he was a lot more directly involved. It doesn't fit that Zimmer mould of percussive ostinatos at all and it's why we love it so much, it offers so much variety of flavour.
@Mattieval
@Mattieval 7 жыл бұрын
I don't know if this is a topic for a video, but I'm fascinated by the contrast in scores between the first Tron film and it's sequel. The first being done by Wendy Carlos, very interesting harmonies and really rich. The second done by...Daft Punk. Maybe a video on how film composing has changed from decade to decade could be interesting. Anyway, great videos Rick!
@nickjoyce1405
@nickjoyce1405 5 жыл бұрын
Basic, yes. But did you think of it? Probably not. Two notes, with a simple us of expression = the sound of Batman. Genius.
@holacabeza
@holacabeza 7 жыл бұрын
Rick, please analyze the soundrtack from Interstellar! Great video btw
@AirGuitar
@AirGuitar 6 жыл бұрын
Hola yes!!
@DoctorJRx
@DoctorJRx 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rick !!
@mupicap7927
@mupicap7927 5 жыл бұрын
Zimmer score really can liftup every scene he want it, i guess.. No need to be complex, as long u can lift that's the point.. Even Danny elfman can't lift Justice League scene, that seems quite
@Timmsstuff
@Timmsstuff 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Rick, new to the channel, would love to see you take a look at the Lion King soundtrack if you're interested in covering more of Hans (it's my favourite of his), it feels to me less reliant on sound design and tonality than this, which would probably make for a more interesting subject matter from a music theory perspective
@romualdphillip666
@romualdphillip666 4 жыл бұрын
Yesss
@WesleyWestMusic
@WesleyWestMusic 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the videos! My one friend that finished studying music in 2016 told me I should check you out. I'm 3rd year now and we're starting with film composition this year. I'm grateful I discovered you at a time like this :-)
@RickBeato
@RickBeato 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Wesley!
@pedroplays3090
@pedroplays3090 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Rick!
@tonydesoto8891
@tonydesoto8891 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! Wish you could do an analysis of Edward Scissorhands. I think that is Elfman’s most gorgeous music.
@itznoxy7193
@itznoxy7193 7 жыл бұрын
Great lesson Rick! I would love to see videos on the Lord of the Rings movies and the Halo games. Two of the best soundtracks ever imo.
@iik9555
@iik9555 3 жыл бұрын
It will be interesting to see Interstellar analysis
@mensamin
@mensamin 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, people just see the bad side of things sometimes... Great video :), looking forward for the Hans Zimmer solo video :3
@chrisangeluk
@chrisangeluk 7 жыл бұрын
BRILLIANT!!!!!
@josicx2507
@josicx2507 7 жыл бұрын
I still don't know, if I should hate or love Hans Zimmer music. I got his Masterclass as a christmas gift and I start to think that Rick tells me more about film scoring than Hans will do, but we will see...
@jeffpandur8776
@jeffpandur8776 7 жыл бұрын
hey man how was that, did you liked it?
@VisualAudioV
@VisualAudioV 7 жыл бұрын
Im on the masterclass too, there's only a few videos up at this point. only 5 or 6. There's like 30 to come. It's all intro right now.
@jeffpandur8776
@jeffpandur8776 7 жыл бұрын
PM me bro!
@hufflepuff23402
@hufflepuff23402 7 жыл бұрын
I'm just about done with Zimmer's Masterclass videos, and I have to say I've really learned a lot. I know some people were disappointed that his lessons didn't cover more "technical" advice, but to me his creative insight/process is just as (if not more) valuable. Yes, I can hear how is music is often repetitive and "basic", but I think one thing about Hans is that his music is typically iconic and memorable. For example, if I hear the main tune of PoTC, I know exactly what it is and what film it's from. Although he may not be the most technical composer, you do have to give him that he has a knack for world-building. Inception, Interstellar, PoTC, Gladiator... they may all have repetitive scores built around one small motif, but it takes some skill t to be able to span one small rif across an entire soundtrack.
@VisualAudioV
@VisualAudioV 7 жыл бұрын
It was good as Baylee says. However, I would have preferred a different approach. There was a heavy weight on you and the director, and only hints of technology use. The theory of the tracks is good, but a lot of time was studying things done, rather than clean slate approach. JunkieXLs channel has been far more informative IMO. He released a video every week in studio time.
@Bashanvibe
@Bashanvibe 7 жыл бұрын
I have heard this so many times thanks for revealing the source
@juliandevilliers6435
@juliandevilliers6435 7 жыл бұрын
That cue has balls! lol Thanks Rick! This was fun.
@GreyWind
@GreyWind Жыл бұрын
Lol all jokes aside TDK was one of the most structurally complex scores Hans has ever written. Also I believe the mock-up has some wrong bass notes…
@gabrield.cstoica1832
@gabrield.cstoica1832 5 жыл бұрын
sr Rick biato...en su demonstracion en solo 3minutos...a la parte de cello bajos una nota esta bien...pero el ostinato muy bien... igual lo has dicho que es muy facil... felicidades por su progama es de muy gran ayuda para muchos que aprenden el scoring film.
@Ninienergy
@Ninienergy 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing, Thank You :)
@matiasgarciaacosta1040
@matiasgarciaacosta1040 7 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Rick! Looks like zimmer really likes obstinatos,....and then in Interestellar he samples cathedral organs....awsome composer skills....please do Howard Shore part 2,..
@AntonioVidarteMusic
@AntonioVidarteMusic 7 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown, thanks!
@tavusion
@tavusion 7 жыл бұрын
@Rick Don't hate Hans, if you say this is Hans' sound then you've obviously not heard him enough (or don't want to). The franchise in itself was a massive hit and they were three of them so it made these works of Hans the most famous out of all. This maybe the most famous soundtracks of Hans, but definitely don't define his music because it's so much more. I personally don't like any of his Batman score, not even Inception or much of Interstellar but I still love him for so many other soundtracks. Like A. R. Rahman rose to world fame with Slumdog Millionaire and all non-Indians know him because of that, but just that is not "His Sound", it's not even in his best 25 soundtracks. Try listening to The Last Samurai, The Holiday, Pearl Harbor, Gladiator, Sherlock Holmes without any bias or presumption. I won't say you'll like them but at least you'll understand that he is more much more than what you want to believe. Even if what he composes is not to your liking, it moves, inspires or makes a lot of other people happy. Let's respect all artists.
@RickBeato
@RickBeato 7 жыл бұрын
I am very familiar with his work. I love Hans that's why I'm going to do a video of his scores I want to. I just had so many people ask me about the Dark Knight movie that i wanted to just do it. It's his sound for that movie. Almost every track is an ostinato. and they are all so similar.
@RickBeato
@RickBeato 7 жыл бұрын
I didn't say anything about not respecting him did I? He's great! But it does appear that there is some kind of "cultish" thing about him from the personal comments. You guys must really love those movies for the soundtracks to mean so much. That's cool. It's a generational thing.
@AlistairRobertson93
@AlistairRobertson93 7 жыл бұрын
To be fair - if you're referring to his comment at 9:10 - I think he means that in this kind of example, it's more Zimmer's musical voice that is being expressed than JNH - not that this is the ONLY style Zimmer is capable of (although it is admittedly what he's become known for in recent years). Besides I've heard from several people that HZ and JNH were both hired on this score to fulfil different roles. HZ to take the lead on the big, bombastic percussion action cues, while JNH took care of the more 'expressive' aspects of the score - so it's highly likely that the examples that Rick's showing were, in fact, more influenced by HZ than JNH.
@RickBeato
@RickBeato 7 жыл бұрын
That's exactly correct. I actually thought about calling the video, how to use ostinatos in modern film music.
@tavusion
@tavusion 7 жыл бұрын
I don't wanna be the bad guy here, I love both Hans & Rick. Rick Beato yeah that would have been appropriate, haha. I'm just happy to know that you're gonna post more videos of his music and I'm looking forward to that, till then I'm gonna learn from your other videos and send you gratification vibes. 😊
@jaikumarsivalingam
@jaikumarsivalingam 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@VladyVeselinov
@VladyVeselinov 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Rick, it would be awesome to see you do some live composing something with a heroic vibe. I'm super interested to see how you approach composing from scratch.
@willo.brien.
@willo.brien. 7 жыл бұрын
I appreciate what Hanz Zimmer does. In his own words, "Minimalist composition, maximalist production". Rick, what program are you using for the string sound? Sounds great! Thanks for the excellent content 👍
@lukehunnable
@lukehunnable 4 жыл бұрын
Did he actually say that?
@李姜-v1f
@李姜-v1f 7 жыл бұрын
Rick is great!
@ValeSchneider
@ValeSchneider 7 жыл бұрын
Please do a video about Michael Giaccino! Thanks! Love your videos Rick!
@katarzynakostiuk5088
@katarzynakostiuk5088 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Rick! Have you noticed that part you analize in 5:10-6:30 is, if I'm not mistaken, a clear reference to the Elfman's Batman theme from the cartoon!
@tomaspalazzi
@tomaspalazzi 7 жыл бұрын
It would be cool cues of video games or tv scores, I love you channel!
@ArtbyAtlas
@ArtbyAtlas 7 жыл бұрын
Dark Knight soundtrack is one of my favorites, thanks for doing this video. Listening to the music (to the untrained ear--like mine, I suppose!) makes the songs seem more complex than they are, but hearing you break them down really simplifies it. I think the scale of the sounds probably just comes from all the layering and building up Hans does with the orchestra, and not so much that he's playing something so totally new.
@abbasalikhan
@abbasalikhan 7 жыл бұрын
hahaha i saw what you did there rick. thanks so much for the video
@cacauceluque
@cacauceluque 7 жыл бұрын
I think that Hans Zimmer Interstellar soundtrack has more interesting mix of ostinati and harmony than this.
@ThePonchovader
@ThePonchovader 7 жыл бұрын
Rick I think it would be awesome if you could make a video about Michael Giacchino! By the way thanks for all your videos!!
@KhaledAbdelmonemMusic
@KhaledAbdelmonemMusic 2 жыл бұрын
you are great
@futurebeats898
@futurebeats898 7 жыл бұрын
have you covered music from lord of the ring yet? its so much better i think ;)
@waynesilver9094
@waynesilver9094 7 жыл бұрын
Nice video
@CPXYFAN
@CPXYFAN 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Rick, this might be something off the topic from this video. But what DAW do you use/ prefer? And is Cubase any good for composing such scores?
@driven2thrive33
@driven2thrive33 7 жыл бұрын
I just recently subscribed to channel Rick and I'm really enjoying it. You are great at what you do. What plug-ins do you use for your strings?
@romualdphillip666
@romualdphillip666 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Rick. Been following ur channel for a while and Ive learned so much. Thanks for all the amazing content. I would like to see ur analysis on the lion king soundtrack.....the cartoon version
@bugeyedmudafuka2
@bugeyedmudafuka2 7 жыл бұрын
Nice.Do one for inception.Love the chord sequences in that.Simple but kinda odd at the same time.
@tilleyroadaffairproduction6752
@tilleyroadaffairproduction6752 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Rick Tx again for this. I would like to know what type of Sound library do you use. I use only Logic stock sounds and am starting to find it a bit limiting as I have to constantly tweek it to make sound decent. Again I am on a budget and still can appreciate good sound... I just want to enhance the creative energy and flow...
@dihohentzollern3175
@dihohentzollern3175 7 жыл бұрын
some other material if you'll be willing.john williams home alone-setting the trap , steve jablonsky-transformers.thanks for the lessons!
@ZamudioAbel
@ZamudioAbel 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Rick, you should do a video about Jacob Collier's music!
@aitornavarro6597
@aitornavarro6597 5 жыл бұрын
The Dark Knight Trilogy is heavily Zimmer's style. I personally enjoy James Newton Howard's style more. The track named "Harvey Two-Face" was composed vy Howard and I think it's one of the best pieces from the score.
@karlkante3142
@karlkante3142 7 жыл бұрын
helpful, thx
@jordanmuntz8270
@jordanmuntz8270 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Rick, was wondering if you would do a video on the music from the Halo video games series by Martin O'Donnell
@rowegardner9673
@rowegardner9673 7 жыл бұрын
This would be great. I second this.
@-cyberwave-studios
@-cyberwave-studios 7 жыл бұрын
If he does that, I'll be very happy
@jggabbay
@jggabbay 7 жыл бұрын
Could you make a percussion video? I find it to be the hardest part when trying to mockup soundtracks, my ear just gets lost
@tugrulozer9419
@tugrulozer9419 7 жыл бұрын
it should have been ''C'' at 1:23. keep it low ;)
@wasunsamherzenliegt
@wasunsamherzenliegt 5 жыл бұрын
Tuğrul Özer Thanks. I was looking for that comment 😊👍
@RobertDannyDavis
@RobertDannyDavis 7 жыл бұрын
The unfortunate thing is that most Hollywood music has pretty much resorted to this sound and music that strays from this method is seemingly more and more rare. I think it is ok if it is Hans Zimmer's sound alone, but most people want to sound like Hans Zimmer, which is making everything sound 70 to 80 percent the same now. Maybe that is all producers want now? I dunno.
@consonaadversapars
@consonaadversapars 7 жыл бұрын
What is this comment section about? He did not say anything bad about ZImmer. He just said the ostinatoes are quite basic, that's all. Thx for video, looking forward to the next ones! And please, could you do some videos about progression in these compositions, how they evolve in time, chord progressions used, how the patterns change, etc. Thx and cheers!
@tavusion
@tavusion 7 жыл бұрын
Consona Adversa Pars In a recent facebook live video he did make fun of him while referring to his masterclass, so people who saw that clearly got the feeling that Rick doesn't like him much.
@consonaadversapars
@consonaadversapars 7 жыл бұрын
Oh, ok, didn't know that. And I'm actually going to buy his masterclass. I think his soundtracks for Batman, Superman, Inception, Sherlock Holmes or Interstellar were great. He just has his own of way of composing and there's no need to make fun of him. His soundtracks have very varied sound palettes and are quite different, which I like a lot.
@RickBeato
@RickBeato 7 жыл бұрын
+T.A.V I was remarking on how every time I go to KZbin his master class video plays.
@consonaadversapars
@consonaadversapars 7 жыл бұрын
Yea, even from this video it seems there are no bad words against Hans. Seems like people like to twist and exaggerate things.
@JamesWatsonComposer
@JamesWatsonComposer 7 жыл бұрын
This is a different video but I just realized how John Williams works some of those "atonal" (sounding) high strings/tension/sustaining pianissimo ideas. This is thanks to your videos on modes and breaking down the diatonic chords in each mode or scale. He's seemingly just moving through a diminished scale a lot of the time the same way and finding good voicings for each instrument. i.e.: War Horse 13. No Man's Land Thanks so much for these videos!
@Stadtpark90
@Stadtpark90 2 жыл бұрын
Any chance for more Hans Zimmer reviews? Interstellar? Dune?
@jameswilliams9881
@jameswilliams9881 3 жыл бұрын
So I think Rick's trying to be really really nice, but his underlying message is that Hans Zimmer got really really lucky. (right place right time, which can certainly happen.) Rick uses the term "basic" a lot. :) Anybody with a synthesizer, a good set of tools and a modicum of musical ability can make the exact same "compositions". Hell, my son does it on Rock Band to a degree and he has literally no musical training. But, hey, he gets work in a tough business so good for him. Personally I think it 's all fluff. Meanwhile, Rick, you are awesome and deserving of all praise and accolades. What you do and how you do it is truly appreciated by those of us who consider music essential.
@deepak6529
@deepak6529 7 жыл бұрын
Nice...can u make a video of the love theme from the pirates of the carribbean
@DominikKaliszewski25
@DominikKaliszewski25 7 жыл бұрын
What makes Zimmer;s music so touching ?
@J1283-s1k
@J1283-s1k 2 жыл бұрын
Wish Rick would go solely on a James Newton Howard track from Unbreakable. Newton Howard is so far from a simplistic ostinato sound (not criticising it but it is very much ingrained in Hans' specific, go to sound nowadays) in his soundtracks. While the movie features several extraordinary motifs and a distinct percussive beat in arguably the main theme of the movie, Visions, JNH provides so much variety in the instances where they reappear (be it in that track or others) that I can't agree with Rick, even with The Dark Knight soundtrack here, that JNH offers an ostinato based style in any way similar to Hans, unless perhaps Rick was referring to JNH working with that mould Hans would offer (like at 07:32 where the piano motif in Agent of Chaos quotes the opening melody of Corynorhinus). Tadarida, a track from Batman Begins (keeping in line with the train of thought for this video) is a perfect example of this. The first minute alone offers this Newton Howard-esque elaboration on a repeating single heart wrenching strings motif that he gradually builds into a bittersweet pay off. Like I say, it's very, very typical JNH and about as far from 'typical' Hans' ostinato/percussion based sound as you can get but it is a good example of the disparity between their styles.
@WayanJos
@WayanJos 7 жыл бұрын
isnt the purpose of music for picture is to bring "life" to the picture? doesnt matter if it's "basic" or whatever.
@abdulsalammajed
@abdulsalammajed 7 жыл бұрын
jrubbernek I agree with you 👌👌👌👍
@trottheblackdog
@trottheblackdog 6 жыл бұрын
Rick's not hating on anyone. It's all eggs, flour, milk, etc. Just how you use it
@jaypatel-lg1vp
@jaypatel-lg1vp 7 жыл бұрын
sir i have a que for u...in guitar instrument which plactrum is best? thin or thick? i m comfortable with thin pick for strumming.but my frnds said tht thick pick is good one than thin..bt i am comfortable with thin..so is it ok to use thin pick for strumming and stage performance.. thank you..we love u.
@juandesalgado
@juandesalgado 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for your collection of videos, Rick! If I may drop a suggestion, you could give a look to videogame music, nowadays they are like movies. "Skyrim" would be a good example (check in KZbin). Thanks again!
@HiLoMusic
@HiLoMusic 7 жыл бұрын
Simplicity equates to mass appeal.
@Tywright93
@Tywright93 7 жыл бұрын
hey Rick, as a composer do you encourage buying a string or an orchestral vst or software to make compositions with?
@RickBeato
@RickBeato 7 жыл бұрын
They are very handy for mock-ups so yes.
@Tywright93
@Tywright93 7 жыл бұрын
OK thanks. Do you have any compositions available to listen to?
@RickBeato
@RickBeato 7 жыл бұрын
Tj Wright I don't compose music other than to demonstrate in these videos. Go watch my modal videos.
@Tywright93
@Tywright93 7 жыл бұрын
Rick Beato OK will do
@TheGurner1
@TheGurner1 7 жыл бұрын
It's great to have your insights - a lot of stuff we hear and go 'wow' appears reasonably simple when it's understood, it's the understanding that's the trick ;-)
@tikidale
@tikidale 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Hans does the ostinatos in Pirates a lot also
@mariomj4535
@mariomj4535 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Rick, what string vst were you using in your mockups?
@CJ_YT.
@CJ_YT. 6 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite movies
@MadeRude91
@MadeRude91 7 жыл бұрын
Are these compositions staying within a diatonic scale Or different modes for harmonic / melodic progression ?
@aidabaida6076
@aidabaida6076 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! You did a good job explaining the essence of the "Zimmer" sound. The sad part is that ostinati have become a crutch. They're easy to write and create some "energy", but they're leading to a "samey" effect in blockbuster music. Jackman, Jablonsky, sometimes even Gregson-Williams, they just use hundreds and hundreds of choppy d-minor strings. Soon, it's going to sound dated.
@metahed
@metahed 7 жыл бұрын
How are you able to produce those original cues Rick? Where did they come from?
@RickBeato
@RickBeato 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what cues you are talking about?
@metahed
@metahed 7 жыл бұрын
+Rick Beato Sorry, meant the sound files you're using from the original score.
@deangoritz9625
@deangoritz9625 7 жыл бұрын
hey Rick, Dean from Chicago love all your videos I've been a subscriber for about a month now. I think we are cut from the same cloth. anyway I could go on forever but real quick what cord is Jimmy Page playing on the Rain song when the main verse comes in that cord that slides down a half step just curious I took jazz guitar about 13 years ago and my jazz teacher couldn't name that chord,eager for the answer and keep up the awesome stuff I'm truly learning a lot
@RickBeato
@RickBeato 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dean!
@petragaffney135
@petragaffney135 7 жыл бұрын
Dean Goritz Hello Dean. I listened to The Rain Song and I can answer your question. Rick would obviously know but may not have time to reply. The two chords on the last two 8th notes leading into the verse are Ab9 > G9.....so then the next 8 bars go.... [|: G9 / / / | Gm9 / / / | Csus4 C / / | Csus4 C / / :|] I hadn't heard this song so I enjoyed hearing it. Thanks. Pétra.
@RickBeato
@RickBeato 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Petra!!
@deangoritz9625
@deangoritz9625 7 жыл бұрын
Pétra Gaffney , is it really that simple, I know he tunes his guitar to open Csus4 (I think) but I guess I never sat at piano or found notes on guitar to analyze the chords, thanks for info
@anibalsilvaagudelo189
@anibalsilvaagudelo189 7 жыл бұрын
Hola Rick , saludos desde colombia ! quisiera saber como hacer para escuchar las pistas instrumento por instrumento , estoy interesado en analizar las obras de Zimmer y me seria muy útil escuchar las pistas de esa forma. he visto muchos de tus vídeos y me parecen geniales ! muy buenas tus explicaciones!! aunque entiendo un poco de ingles he comprendido la mayoría de los temas que tratas !!
@stevenweiss4699
@stevenweiss4699 6 жыл бұрын
Hey rick, can you do a video on the music of Alexandre Desplat?
@EdvardBolaasMusic
@EdvardBolaasMusic 5 жыл бұрын
1:22 @not to sound pretentious but thats a C, not D right there. Makes quite the difference actually.
@alundberg
@alundberg 7 жыл бұрын
+Rick Beato Love your stuff. I have a suggestion of a contemporary composer called Austin Wintory and I love his score in the beautiful game called Journey. Would love if you could do a video on that score, which I guess is a bit more complex than Zimmer's (lol).
@findkip
@findkip 5 жыл бұрын
What about Zimmer from Sherlock Holmes. Personally I think both movies have the best scores ever
@brucewayne795
@brucewayne795 4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@banest0
@banest0 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! Would you please do an analysis on 160 BPM from Angels & Demons?
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