AGM Adder 384 BEST Under $3K?!

[@HansETX]

Thank you for watching! Give us a call if you are interested in learning more about the Adders! 877-350-1818

[@dogten4006]

is the recoil rating for the Adders better/worse/same as the rattler/varmint line?

[@pmtips4482]

I just got my Adder TS35-384 from Outdoor Legacy and it is incredible for 2500 dollars. Comes with a 200 dollar quick attach mount by American Defense too! I just want to say how user friendly this scope is, magnification is controlled by rotating the left dial, reticle change by pushing the left dial, and pallette change by a single push button on top of the eyepiece. All without even entering the menu!! (after you set it up of course). The menu itself has so many options with the several reticle groups and each group has 5 independent reticle setups with each listing the range you select. Thank you Jason! You and Hans are top tier!!

[@HansETX]

Thanks for the kind words! Glad you like the Adder as much as we do…

[@Yahtahey]

I just got mine in the mail. Question, the manual recommends the software T-Vision but when I go to the Apple Store there is one option below that one to download the AGM Connect. Which is better?

[@darrendennis4866]

Just purchased an Adder TS35 from you guys. Have a couple questions on the unit but so far so good, this is my second one I bought from you guys and the first one was a great buying experience on the Rattler with good customer service from Jason. will highly recommend you guys for any other hunters interested in this thermal game.

[@HansETX]

Thank you Darren! Give us a call if you have questions…

[@trenthenckell2542]

Appreciate your detail in breaking down the specs, and comparing against the Rattler! Great job!

[@HansETX]

Thank you Trent!

[@2punish1]

AGM has stepped up their game! Other companies will have to improve their products to compete with AGM.

[@HansETX]

Thank you for watching!

[@TheReal_JohnDoeSmith]

By the way….that mount is the bees knees. Top shelf zero hold between weapon changeout. Stellar engineering

[@HansETX]

Yessir we agree 👍🏻

[@davidsanford2711]

I’ve been hunting with a night vision scope with red & green lights and while this setup works my gut told me thermal was the way to go. I set out to find local dealers in my area so I could do a 1st hand comparison however, that proved impossible only one retailer had a thermal. Then it was an internet research project into thermal optics to determine what would work best for my hunting application. The following is a list of things I needed from the scope. 1) price 2) warranty 3) 3-4x base magnification 4) resolution. For my hunting application I wanted a scope I could ID and make shots at 300 yds. My flat shooting varmit rifle, a model 700 Remington chambered in a .204 Ruger sitting on a tripod deserves a good scope. The .204 makes quick work of targets to 300 with ease and shoots like a laser with 2” of bullet drop @ 300. After several hours of internet search and videos about thermal scopes I chose the AGM Adder TS50-384. The team at Outdoor Legacy had several AGM videos comparing different scopes and a few side by side comparisons of different models. Scope performance of the TS50-384 and base magnification was the top 2 deciding factors in my choice of AGM scopes. My AGM Adder arrived; I sighted in to 300 yds. with 4 shots and 5 to confirm. I’m sure I could have sighted in with fewer shots if I were more tech savvy however; I was pleased seeing it was my 1st thermal experience. I used the Adder the 1st night for a few hours out back on a corn field just to get some time with the scope, I knew we didn’t have any yotes around the house. The 1st night out about 7:15 a yote came in to my caller however; he didn’t pause long enough for me to get a shot. About 20-30 minutes later a 2nd yote came in about 150 yds out, and he never left. I couldn’t be happier with my AGM Adder TS50-384 the clarity to ID and detect are outstanding and I couldn’t be more pleased with the help and customer service I have received from the team at Outdoor Legacy. If you want a badass thermal for yotes the AGM Adder fills the bill.

[@HansETX]

Thank you for your business and for all the kind words David!

[@lloydoliphant4965]

When internal batteries finally go bad is it user changeable or a factory replace?

[@joelbosworth2946]

I did read that it has to be sent to manufacturer to be replaced. Although it would take an extensive amount on run time to run that low.

[@lancelamoon6743]

@@joelbosworth2946 just run a battery pack when they finally do go out.

[@stevendigges4151]

I just ordered mine. i will let you know how it is working for me. Thanks for all of the information you provided today.

[@edwardstanhope3030]

Sounds like a awesome scope and great review

[@HansETX]

Thank you for the kind words Edward!

[@PigDaddy409]

I wish outdoor legacy would look into, review, and carry the Burris thermal line. They’re fantastic with great features and price points.

[@HansETX]

Thanks for watching Anthony

[@larrybomber83]

Now that sounds like one awesome scope. Thank YOu for the review.

[@HansETX]

Yessir it is! Thanks for watching Larry

[@curteous1]

I’m a big fan of this review, I’d like to begin a relationship with you guys as my only thermal optic dealer. Appreciate all the in-depth details. I’m here in Deep East Texas and I’ll be reaching out shortly. Thanks again!

[@HansETX]

Thank you sir!

[@ngaoutdoors4157]

Very informative videos as always! Game changer thermals for sure👍👍🇺🇸

[@HansETX]

Thank you! I always appreciate the kind words

[@ngaoutdoors4157]

@@HansETX Welcome!

[@dannypierce9528]

He ain’t lying about being able to talk to somebody I talked to Jason personally when I bought my Sightmark wraith 4k max and I haven’t had a problem But if I do I’d be willing to bet I could get him on the phone again they are the real deal

[@JasonEmanuel]

Great shots on those coyotes! Coyotes recently tore into my free range chickens. I'm in the piney woods of east Texas so am researching close range night vision kits.

[@HansETX]

Thank you Jason!

[@djdecember1]

adder ts 35 headed my way. Thanks for convincing me to sell my soul for one of these.

[@HansETX]

Haha.. totally worth it! Thanks for watching

[@djdecember1]

@@HansETX first foray into thermals. Hope it's a good first thermal. Planning on laying down the hurt on some hogs

[@mikefogle5874]

Great review. Can't wait to get my hands on one. Thanks NEW SUB

[@HansETX]

Thank you Mike! I really appreciate it sir

[@LoyalHershberger-hl5ze]

Absolutely love the adder ts35 by 384 scope

[@HansETX]

Thanks for watching and commenting

[@GW2964]

Love videos and TRUST yall's opinion! I'm going to replace my XM38 next yr. I also own an xq35lrf pro. I've been considering switching brands because of price, American defense are only mounts, but do own 3 of them, icluded on Adder is very enticing. . After owning Pulsar since 2019, would I regret switching brands? I'm pretty impressed with 384 technology over my 320. Im loving the $3000 price range too. I always thought about 640 when I replace myThermion, but I was not willing to go up to $4000. I'm a Midwest yote hunter. Though gonna move out of Illinois within next 2yrs, politics and gun restrictions are the reason. More than likely, Georgia or Florida. What's your thoughts on my brand contemplation?

[@michaelbattin6717]

great review Hans! When will you review the 640?

[@HansETX]

Thanks for watching Michael.. I’ll be testing it very soon

[@Diamondeyeadventures]

Why don’t y’all hunt with the ATN? I have a ton of friends that love them but after watching your channel I see a lot of good ones under $3k

[@n2shooter]

You wanna know a dirty secret? Most of the scopes in this price range use the same internals. Just look at the screens for the AGM Monoculars and the lower res ones from ATN. They are identical, just with different optics, cases and different power options. Now, of course, this isn't across the respective companies entire line up, but AGM, Bering, HIK Micro are just rebranding the exact same scope with firmware that adds their logo on the startup screen. If you don't believe me, take a look at the user manual for the various brands of thermal monoculars, and you can see the icons are identical. The same goes for some of the scopes. The ones you see get pushed the hardest are the ones who's wholesale price is the cheapest. That's why you don't see many push the ATN scopes. I run ATN Thermal and Day/Night scopes, as they are the only scope in this price range with built-in Ballistic Calculators. If you shoot a flat round, like the 6.5 Creedmoor, it may not matter to you. But I use high power .30cal airguns for pest control in residential areas, and I keep sub MOA at 100+ yards. Pulsar, Trijicon and IRay more or less engineer their own stuff.

[@audieladd2476]

When the internal batteries eventually die, and they will, are they replaceable? If they're not, you have one very expensive boat anchor there.

[@HansETX]

😂 they are replaceable in their Arizona facility

[@mulekicker-ut5jl]

I like the compact style like the rattler but I like what I see with this adder. Having sound is a big deal and they kept the price reasonable. I hate buying then they come into with a better model lol

[@HansETX]

I know what you mean! There’s a lot of features and value with the Adder but the Rattlers will still continue to be popular for different types of applications and hunters…. Thanks for watching sir!

[@LightsOutPredatorRemoval]

Yeah but rattler looks like crap on a bolt gun.

[@cmill8999]

I've been watching these videos back and forth and comparing specs. Any good suggestions regarding thermion xq 35 versus the adder s35

[@HansETX]

Thanks for watching! They're a lot to discuss... give us a call him you are interested in purchasing one of these optics and have questions. 877-350-1818

[@TheReal_JohnDoeSmith]

Nice! Pulsar changed the game for a slew of Manufacturers. Let call a spade a spade! That clarity is pretty choice The price point is ON point for the BUYER. GREAT REVIEW #outdoorlegacygear

[@HansETX]

Thank you for watching sir! I appreciate the kind words

[@richardboyd4232]

Just ordered one. Thanks

[@HansETX]

I appreciate you watching Rickard!

[@aaronsemsch7941]

Will you also be providing the side by side comparisons of the 640 versions as well?

[@HansETX]

Yessir… thanks for watching Aaron

[@ericrose4170]

Looks pretty good. Can this thing handle 30-06 recoil?

[@7.62x51mm]

I know it can handle .308 but don’t know about 06

[@dogten4006]

I can't find any recoil rating for this line anywhere

[@gmarbray]

Would live to see a video comparison with the Iray Bolt.

[@HansETX]

Call if you’d like to hear my opinion of it…

[@eot1076]

Will it hold up under high recoil and shock? I may have missed it, if you covered this.

[@adamdykes6977]

What are the main advantages or dissadvantages of thermals with similar specs that are styled like conventional scopes (such as the adder) vs shorter units like a rattler?

[@ricdandel1145]

The more traditional ones are better for guns with longer length of pull like bolt actions etc.

[@matwatts5909]

He won’t even say the name Atn 😂. I bought the Iray bravo from y’all after an atn failure 2 weeks after owning. This was over 8 months ago and I still haven’t received an email response from atn luckily I had no trouble with a refund

[@HansETX]

Thanks for watching Mat! I’ve had so many people ask me why we don’t review ATN, I hate bashing a company so I’d rather just not even bring it up 😂

[@matwatts5909]

I am going to email y’all and get some setting suggestions on the iray bravo if you don’t mind. My wife purchased it from y’all for me. Those outdoor legacy tshirts prolly the most comfortable shirt I own by the way. Y’all sent us 2 when we got the scope and I stole my wife’s so I have 2 lol

[@n2shooter]

Electronics fail. Sometimes they have what we call infant death mortality. That's where a good warranty comes in. I have had no issues with my 2 ATNs.

[@LightsOutPredatorRemoval]

honestly man i was about to buy this of optics planet but since you took the time to do this reveiw im buying from you. are you about the same on price?

[@HansETX]

Yessir. Thank you! outdoorlegacygear.com/products/agm-adder-ts35-384-thermal-riflescope?variant=39888424435786

[@LightsOutPredatorRemoval]

out of stock :(

[@ncmidnighthunters4587]

Great video! What's your opinion on the ts-50 640 adder?

[@HansETX]

I love the Adder series of scopes and now the 384 and 640's come with a 5 year warranty!

[@stevenbecnel2762]

Very informative video interesting watch. I'm curious to know how are these thermals opposed to Pulsar Thermion 2? If anyones done any comparison I'd be interested to hear feedback. Atn left me walking in the dark and had to send back not even chancing it with a replacement this hobby is to demanding on reliability with hog hunting.

[@williamgoswick4392]

Does either the 35 or 50 require a re-zero if the batteries completely die? And what's the max recoil rating on the 35? Thank You in advance

[@HansETX]

recoil rated for .308 and no you don't have to rezero

[@josephd4758]

Question: I have seen somewhere, that there are plans to sync Adders to a laser range finder in later times. I that correct info or not?

[@entryleveltactics]

In your opinion, what's better? The Adder or the Rattler?

[@HansETX]

I prefer the Adder, mainly because it has rechargeable batteries and audio recording

[@5jjt]

If one has a thermal scope such as this one, is there any need for a digital night vision scope?

[@crobollas]

What are the best parameters for the image? Greeting from Croatia

[@MrPlk72]

My ? Is when will the range finder be available since it's going to be compatible

[@LightsOutPredatorRemoval]

I hope they are as good as y’all say.

[@HansETX]

Yessir Mason!

[@raydelfa1125]

Actually spur mounts are the best scope mounts on the market.

[@c.r.rg9529]

What kind of distance range can these be hunted? Glad to see they work at 50 yards but how far can they reach out to

[@HansETX]

ID range +/- 350 yards.... Detection range 1500 yards

[@JMfarmandcattle]

Is there a comparison of this to the pulsar xq50 pro?

[@HansETX]

call us if your interested in purchasing an optic and we can go over the differences with you... 877-350-1818. Thanks for watching...

[@outdoorsman8498]

How's it look compared to the new tailion pro

[@87Gano]

I feel like the rattler has the better image quality and is less washed out looking on screen

[@HansETX]

Having used the rattler and adder a lot, the adder has the better picture image imo…

[@HendricksPlumbing6519]

Looking to get a thermal. I know what it says on the ID range for this scope, is that accurate or will it ID a little farther? Just wondering from someone who has used it in the field.

[@ricdandel1145]

Depends on the user and their familiarity with the animal in question. I have no problem iding a cat at 150-175yards and I can tell the difference between cows and deer at 500ish yards.

[@ozarkmartin1174]

Can you stream video live to a mobile device?

[@jrow9766]

Is 3x excessive for hunting in piney woods of ETX? Mostly 75-100 yards sometimes closer sometimes further.

[@n2shooter]

I think it will work ok. But it's nice to have a thermal monocular unit to make scanning easier.

[@HansETX]

I would say that a 2x base Mag optic would probably be better

[@rodneydockter7380]

How do you know where to aim with the adder scope out a few hundred yards? Just holdover and hope for the best?

[@ricdandel1145]

Bullet drop will vary by caliber. Not optic.

[@jamesbernard9998]

What does it cost to replace the batteries after the warranty has run out and the batteries go bad that's my question

[@HansETX]

Not quite sure on the price but I wouldn’t think it would be very expensive. Thanks for watching James

[@sillybandhaha]

How do you get it to hook up to a Mac book? I’ve tried and can’t get it to connect.

[@joshfranklin1894]

What is the brand you don't mention?? I'm new to night optics so I need to know who to avoid

[@HansETX]

ATN is the company we don’t sell or review. Thanks for watching

[@joshfranklin1894]

@@HansETX that makes sense from what I have heard about them. I actually just bought a AGM TS 25-384 ... I'm super happy with it so far, only had it a day

[@mulekicker-ut5jl]

I want one of those tee shirts lol

[@HansETX]

Free with purchase 😂😂

[@matwatts5909]

Extremely comfortable shirts if you need an excuse to buy a thermal from these guys that shirt is it

[@mr.rem2609]

@@HansETX they are very comfortable! Mine is Gray, I like your color too!

[@jessicajones795]

Recommendations for a 45-70

[@HansETX]

If you are interested in purchasing a new thermal scope give Outdoor Legacy Gear at call... 877-350-1818. Thank you for watching!

[@davemiller3027]

Whats the Magnification on the PIP window?

[@HansETX]

Hey Dave… it’s double the base magnification

[@hlo9644]

Internal screen Round? How does internal screen compare in size appearance to Iray Bravo?

[@HansETX]

The screen is rectangular and not circle. I’ll check the dimensions on both 👍🏻

[@rodneydockter7380]

Does the point of impact change when the magnification is turned up?

[@HansETX]

No sir… thanks for watching 👍🏻

[@Cheesedrip268]

Question, Deos the Adder have various zero profiles for different rifles?

[@HansETX]

yessir, it does

[@victorvantassel1853]

How does the picture compare to iray bolt

[@HansETX]

The bolt might have a little bit sharper image but the bolt is also in a higher priced category at $800 more.. the Adder holds it’s own with any scope under $3k. Thanks for watching Victor!

[@victorvantassel1853]

Thanks got an iray bolt from you guys last year thinking about the adder for a diffrent gun

[@williamdoss6215]

​@@victorvantassel1853. How did the adder compare to the bolt ?

[@NormSaucemam]

Is there a warranty to cover the batteries since they are sealed inside the scope?

[@HansETX]

Yes and they can be replaced in their Arizona office

[@NormSaucemam]

@@HansETX I am trying to save up enough to get one...I am severely disabled (I know, what do I need one for)...LOL I don't "need" one...I WANT one... I am so close to having enough...Just about $500 to go...Should be around 9 months.

[@rodneydockter7380]

The Outdoor Legacy Gear site says nothing of a scope mount that comes with the scope!!

[@HansETX]

Thanks Rodney. I’ll make sure that the website gets updated. It definitely comes with the ADM QD Mount…. Thanks Hans

[@Blasian62]

How do you compare the adder ts35-384 with the varmint lrf ts35-384? How is the picture comparison? Does the size feel much different in looking through them? Is the lack of laser range finder that much of a drawback on the adder?

[@HansETX]

Hey, thanks for watching! Sounds like you have a lot of questions. You can call me to discuss. M-F 8am to 5pm 877-350-1818

[@_BigLife_]

Guess I will be calling as well because I was curious about the same scope comparison. Thanks for the informative video.

[@Blasian62]

@@HansETX I ended up getting the adder for the price difference

[@avelinosantos5061]

What the best agm adder ts35-384 or pulsar talion xq38?

[@HansETX]

There's much to consider with both.. Give us a call if you interested in purchasing either and we can discuss the pros and con's... 877-350-1818

[@kirkmckendree1597]

Could you use this on a bolt action rifle.

[@HansETX]

Absolutely… thanks for watching!

[@clintalbert7178]

Rly want to put this on a scar 17 will it handle the action of a scar heavy?

[@HansETX]

AGM says .308 caliber is acceptable

[@t-bar-mranch1074]

out of stock already people. that didnt take long

[@HansETX]

Call Outdoor Legacy Gear, 877-350-1818. It’ll be in stock this week. You can reserve one today 👍🏻

[@markmcafee1999]

How is customer service with AGM?

[@HansETX]

Our customers have had good experiences with their customer service

[@TheMichiganShow]

How about a little dab of hot glue on the buttons to accentuate the tactile feeling with gloves on

[@HansETX]

...not a bad idea. Thanks for watching

[@5jjt]

Can these things take mild abuse, or are they fragile?

[@bretbrown9488]

What happens when the 18650 batteries go bad?

[@alexaronow9316]

Send it in and AGM can replace them. Probably not free but I bet they're reasonable

[@garywt54]

What gun do you use?

[@HansETX]

6.5 Grendel

[@truth3598]

Caliber rating?

[@HansETX]

.308

[@user-wy2wo7yy6z]

My rubber eye piece threaded right off?

[@HansETX]

👍🏻

[@prterjhnon915]

Can you not zoom the scope in?

[@HansETX]

Yes you can. It has 8x digital zoom

[@centexreload5327]

how do you level the reticle?

[@HansETX]

I use a small level on the top turret

[@jgross1991]

Put it on a scar 17

[@HansETX]

that would be fun

[@rubenvalverde6701]

Has anyone ever tried to attract a predator with this type of lure and been snuck up from behind?

[@HansETX]

Yessir.. I’ve had hogs and coyote come in from behind me

[@flushot6513]

So once battery dies do you loose zero or just keep your gun plugged in 😆 🤣 😂

[@HansETX]

Haha.. no you don’t lose zero if the batteries die

[@nigelbase1196]

Your still trying to squeak em in after you've shot at them...🤔🤣🤣

[@HansETX]

Haven’t you ever called in more coyotes after shooting a coyote? Happens all the time… I’ve called in coyotes that are standing over another dead coyote. You should try it sometime 👍🏻