Harbinger of the Vietnam War - COLD WAR DOCUMENTARY

Our series on the history of the Cold War period continues with a documentary on the situation in the French Indochina after WWII. This video will explain how the Vietnam War became inevitable.
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[@TheColdWarTV]

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[@newextremewatcher]

Could you do a video about Malayan Emergency 1948-1960? It would be great if you could explain why the commonwealth forces in Malaya succeed in repelling the communist compare to the US in Vietnam War.

[@warthunder6797]

The Cold War As a Vietnamese. I'm glad to hear your points of view about Vietnam War. Love your Kings and Generals vids

[@tuannguyenvan-gv8ms]

The battle of Điện Biên Phủ is considered to be one of the most meticulously analyzed battles in history. The decisive victory of the Viet Minh forces under Vo Nguyen Giap in a fierce campaign marked the end of the Indochina War, which made Vietnam the first colony to use force. Forcing the army of a Western nation to retreat to the country, to gain independence, is considered a blow to France in particular and the Western world in general. According to the French Secret Service of historian Douglas porch, the Dien Bien Phu defeat "changed the course of French history" and was consistent with the previous failures of France under generals Joseph Joffre (1914) and Maurice Gamelin. (1940). Encouraged by the victory of the Vietnamese, the colonial regions of Africa also rebelled simultaneously. Just three months after the battle of Dien Bien Phu, Algerians, the largest French colony, rebelled for independence, and half a year later, to the countries of Morocco and Tuynidi, many other countries also rebelled in the The next year. By 1967, France was forced to give back independence to all countries that were French colonies. Thereby, the great victory of the Dien Bien Phu victory of Viet Minh was a disaster marking the complete defeat of France in rebuilding Indochina colonies in particular and colonial empire in general after World War II. and end classical colonialism around the world and we defeated the French with weapons 141 times worse than them

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

Very poor video on this tpic. It's just the standered much belived summary. You don't discuss why in large part the 1956 election was refused by the South after the North consolidated a one party communist state using suppression of opposition parties and figures, violence, imprisonments, confiscations, and then sending subversives into South Vietnam. WHY would the South hold an election at that time, in that context?! That's just one part if the video. Why do you keep repeating this same one-sided oversimplified narrative here when we can get that, and have been getting just that almost everywhere else?! Do way better please.

[@guyguy7634]

It’s also worth mentioning that Ho Chi Minh was inspired by the US Declaration of Independence when justifying the need for Vietnam to be independent.

[@FlymanMS]

It's funny how US government over the years has steered off the course the Founding Fathers intended. They surely didn't want the country to become another Empire akin to one they just recently fought for independence. In the end however, money ruled over everything else.

[@mrbrainbob5320]

The US actually supported Vietnam but France didnt so it was either France or Vietnam. France was considered a better ally so America chose France.

[@republicempire446]

Mrbrain bob mostly due to Soviet Union was closer to Europe. But yea, US did supported Vietnam against Japanese but it would been probable that US should stick its guns by decolonization except France like in all of Western Europe was in bad state and needed money. US did somewhat abandon decolonization ideas due paranoia fear of Communism and stick to contain Communism at all cost. If French let go Algeria and Vietnam, it would prevent to risk lives and wealth....

[@mrbrainbob5320]

@@republicempire446 yea the French were considered a useful ally against the USSR but France like always didnt want to lose power or status, so in return for helping America against the USSR, America would help France maintain its colonies.

[@republicempire446]

Mrbrain bob yea

[@chip9649]

Im guessing this is the begininng of many videos on vietnam.

[@TheColdWarTV]

Not yet. But we will eventually get there.

[@umaransari9765]

@@TheColdWarTV is Korea next?

[@bensagal-morris8072]

The Cold War How will an event like that be covered considering it covered 20 years of history?

[@tuannguyenvan-gv8ms]

The battle of Điện Biên Phủ is considered to be one of the most meticulously analyzed battles in history. The decisive victory of the Viet Minh forces under Vo Nguyen Giap in a fierce campaign marked the end of the Indochina War, which made Vietnam the first colony to use force. Forcing the army of a Western nation to retreat to the country, to gain independence, is considered a blow to France in particular and the Western world in general. According to the French Secret Service of historian Douglas porch, the Dien Bien Phu defeat "changed the course of French history" and was consistent with the previous failures of France under generals Joseph Joffre (1914) and Maurice Gamelin. (1940). Encouraged by the victory of the Vietnamese, the colonial regions of Africa also rebelled simultaneously. Just three months after the battle of Dien Bien Phu, Algerians, the largest French colony, rebelled for independence, and half a year later, to the countries of Morocco and Tuynidi, many other countries also rebelled in the The next year. By 1967, France was forced to give back independence to all countries that were French colonies. Thereby, the great victory of the Dien Bien Phu victory of Viet Minh was a disaster marking the complete defeat of France in rebuilding Indochina colonies in particular and colonial empire in general after World War II. and end classical colonialism around the world

[@Willys-Wagon]

France was forced relinquish Indo-China. But they did successfully draw their African colonies into the CFA, and continue to dominate West African affairs to this day.

[@piyushbanerjee2808]

Losses in Indo China and Algeria were one of the primary reasons for the collapse of the fourth French Republic.

[@republicempire446]

Yea, they should known that signs from Riff war was there. Riff War was precursor to Algeria and Indochina despite it was combined Spanish and French victories. Even US’s conflict in Philippines was a taste of what’s coming such as Vietnam war.

[@Cancoillotteman]

Not so much losses as unpopular wars. During any other wars losses seemed acceptable, for the French people felt they were fighting for something worth it. However there it was to maintain domination over foreign populations, and word of the atrocities commited by both sides had reached the public's attention as well. In the same time a very strong socialist and even communist movement were rocking France's politics (communists winning more than 20% of seats). Violence even took to the French streets between pro and anti colonialists. All this culminating in Charles De Gaulle's Coup of 1958, before his democratic election in 1962. De Gaulle knew a weak parlimentary government could not deal with such crisis times, and pushed for a new constitution which would give him more power.

[@decem_sagittae]

And all I have to say is good riddance. France wasn't defeated in WW2, France capitulated and then helped the nazis. France didn't deserve to get victorious status, an occupation zone in Germany and a seat on the Security Council. But after the war every French whore who gave a German soldier an std claimed to have been part of the Resistance.

[@ernstschmidt4725]

just a thought but a modern demcratic republic have no business having colonies right?

[@noahpeng1689]

If they had chosen to retreat earlier, they would not have been dragged down by the war

[@FIWspaceelite]

It is interesting how the French put up a guerilla force to “fight off the German occupier” but had no problem taking over the role of occupier elsewhere...

[@leosp6210]

It's not entire wrong at least at the beigining of the war, but after few years they were convinced to fight against communists alongside regular vietnam army et minorties they didn't want to abandon to communist repression.

[@stephenwright8824]

The French Resistance, some of whom were known as the Maqui, started organically, with only the British Special Operations Executive helping them. In the beginning, the native leaders of France, particularly the puppet Vichy government, wanted them to disband.

[@stephenwright8824]

@John W The French got Indochina in a deal with the Brits after losing India and Canada. They didn't want to give it up so easily, just because it was the will of the people to do so.

[@topdamagewizard]

Liberty, Fraternity and Equality. Unless you have shit we want and people we can exploit. The irony is astounding.

[@pepperonish]

France lowkey collaborated with Germany in a lot of ways.

[@Barwasser]

Shoutout to that Vietnamese Fanboy Ciau 1:05

BeWater must write like this : Phan bội châu

[@duccboi9974]

Phun Buoi Choou when pronounced,right?

[@cyanidesomething906]

@@duccboi9974 Phan, which sound like Fan Bội, ô sound like o in or ội without the press pattern sound like in oink Châu, â sound like er in perfect âu sound like oh

[@oliwierkarnicki3953]

More like femboy chau

[@gilbertplays]

Hope that the Philippines would get a spot in the series.

[@axelpatrickb.pingol3228]

Like how we managed to kill off Commienism in the 1950's only to be reborn in the 1970's and still fighting against it?

[@composerofcringe2535]

@@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 he did the hukbalahap ep

[@blackpowderuser373]

We now have the Hukbalahap episode. Don't worry, we will probably get to the Marcos dictatorship soon enough. But I am more interested in the Presidencies of Magsaysay, Garcia, and Macapagal. These were the relatively stable years before everything went down the drain for the Philippines.

[@admiraltrung-ankancollepla2201]

France has entered the server. Then Ho Chi Minh brought the best general of Viet Minh: Vo Nguyen Giap. France has left the server.

[@Dante-cq2zo]

@Nik Nik oh there are still people believing so ? what a pity ... or what shall I say what a old-fashioned joke :)

[@gsacelm7753]

It's just such an old joke. At least say "Vietnamese Napoleon or Rommel/Guderian etc.”

[@merlinbreaud7379]

The french gamble in Dien Bien Phu was to hold this isolated fort in the mountains by using a flying logistic. While french aircraft where able to supply the troops, the access by road seemed to tiny and to primitive to allow heavy weapons of the Viet-Minh to be deployed. But Nguyen Giap's troops took up the gauntelet and brought canons by mountain's path to finaly storm the place, despite furious airstrikes and paratroopers deployement from the Frenchs. Also an other thing : during the the first years of the 50's, french occupation was able to hold on due to the talent of Marshal de Lattre, one of the former Free-France's Generals (ironic, isnt it ?). The replacement of de Lattre by Navarre, due to the old age of the first, was the begining of the end.

[@mrPowexistent]

Stalingrad of indochina

[@jackthorton10]

Sometimes holding on at one particular point with a objective in mind, is one of intention to make a point clear, “you want to take us out… you may… but we’ll go down kicking whilst you scurry your day up here.”

[@dongochoangkhang]

in vietnam we call it the resistance war against japan 1940-1945 and france 1946-1954 and america 1955-1975

[@buiquanghuy7589]

do ngoc hoang khang wow, giờ vẫn có người như mình, thích xem lịch sử bên king and generals à :))

[@user-wt4ri6rn8n]

I am proud of Vietnam without even being Vietnamese. Respect.

[@inmemoryofjstark7893]

No hard feelings 🇺🇸?

[@mrPowexistent]

1975-1992 Fulro (funded by China and cia) and pol pot and China

[@eugenebraxton2987]

The French soul was snatched at dien Ben phu

[@lucofparis4819]

You mean, during the Battle of France. What happened in Dien Bien Phu and other events in the Cold War are direct consequences of WW2.

[@eugenebraxton2987]

Luc Fauvarque I can see your points, but this loss is undeniably the death blow. Even after WWII they wanted to still be an empire, Ho Chi Minh changed that.

[@lucofparis4819]

@@eugenebraxton2987 The death blow? M'kay. So Algeria never happened am I right? 😄

[@eugenebraxton2987]

@@lucofparis4819 it did but when dien Ben Phu happened everything else was an eventuality.

[@lucofparis4819]

@@eugenebraxton2987 Nah I am gonna have to agree to disagree here. Dien Bien Phu had no way near the effect on the French, their army, or government, that you attribute to it. It was merely yet another drop in the water bucket. The penultimate one, might I add.

[@ctna211]

A small note at 5:01 - Vietnam Quoc Dan Dang means Vietnamese Nationalist Party in English.

[@haulecong6208]

Very detail video, pretty much as same as Vietnamese version i learned at school.

[@Kabutoes]

Kudos for mentioning the illusive and obscure VNQDD

[@abdallaha92]

This channel is starting to get into the juicy subjects :D

[@ShinobiHOG]

GREAT episode.....

[@thefishoftruth235]

Nice video, keep up the good work

[@BountyFlamor]

The Indochina War did not become unpopular towards the end, it had been unpopular when it started which is why no French regular army units fought in it and only colonial troops, the Foreign Legion, the French Navy and Air Force.

[@leosp6210]

It's true, communist were in majority in FRance after WW2 and didn't support the French intervention in Indochina. For the terrest army it was the professionnal expeditionnary corp: colonial troops (include a big part of French soldiers), paratroopers et foreign legion who were all specialised in colonial actions. The regular troops during cold war were facing the East in case of Russain invasion. Many soldiers have fought against nazis before arriving in Indochina. They were great soldiers but Vietminh either and with the chinese support they became far more numerous and welle equiped at the end of the war.

[@adameckard4591]

Uh, what about Bigeard and the paras? They were elite Army units and not the Foriegn Legion.

[@therockbat]

The Emperor of Vietnam referred in this video is Bao Dai, the last of the Nguyen dynasty - the last feudal dynasty that oversaw the period of French colonization of Vietnam. Let's just say he was more suited to being a Hollywood celebrity rather than a politician and a ruler. When Japan invaded Indochina during WW2, they set up a puppet government with Bao Dai as the King and a nationalist historian named Tran Trong Kim as the Prime Minister. Ho Chi Minh was in the northern region of Vietnam in this period, conducting guerrilla insurgency and cooperating with OSS to fight the Japanese. After the August Revolution of 1945, during which Ho Chi Minh and his Viet Minh organization gained power, Bao Dai handed his Imperial seal and Imperial sword to the new government, abdicated and was recruited by Ho Chi Minh to be an adviser to his new national government. That lasted for about a year - Bao Dai later defected to France, then emerged as the "Head of State" of the French puppet "State of Vietnam", with Ngo Dinh Diem as its Prime Minister. After the Geneva convention - spoiler alert - the US backed Diem in a sham election to form a new state "Republic of Vietnam" and refused the proposed nationwide election, since they know Ho Chi Minh was going to win by a landslide and Bao Dai was very unpopular.

[@TranNhatKim]

Refused a unification election? Ho Chi Minh's delegation at the Geneva Conference rejected a reunification election because the UN and the ICC was going to supervise it. South Vietnam proposed at the Geneva Conference that : "a ceasefire without a demarcation line" and "control by the United Nations... of the administration of the entire country [and] of the general elections, when the United Nations believes that order and security will have been everywhere truly restored." Ho Chi Minh feared that if the UN was going to supervise the election, he can't cheat. Ngo Dinh Diem on the other hand, refused a reunification election BECAUSE North Vietnam wouldn't accept UN and ICC supervision.

[@therockbat]

@@TranNhatKim Diem's government refused the election. The State of Vietnam opposed partition of any kind, but they weren't even allowed to participate in active negotiation, as that state was basically dependent of French government. Reunification election was the first thing the Communist proposed, and the US knew full well the Communist were going to win.

[@TranNhatKim]

@@therockbat The first thing the communists proposed was a reunification election without proper international supervision so that they can rig it easily. Bedell Smith delivered a "unilateral declaration" of the U.S. position, reiterating: "We shall seek to achieve unity through free elections supervised by the United Nations to insure that they are conducted fairly.". Ho Chi Minh had strong support in the north, which was way more populous than the south, and was thus confident that he would win an election. Not to mention the fact that most of Vietnam's resources were located in the North (Quang Ninh coal mines for example), Ho Chi Minh was confident he could defeat South Vietnam in an all out war. The State of Vietnam refused to attend the negotiations until Bidault wrote to Bao Dai, assuring him that any agreement would not partition Vietnam. The U.S., with the support of Britain and the State of Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia, suggested UN supervision. That was rejected by Molotov (from the Soviet delegate), who argued for a commission with an equal number of communist and noncommunist members, which could determine "important" issues only by unanimous agreement. Due to disagreements, the Final Declaration of the Geneva Accords which stipulated that a reunification election would happen was not signed by any of the participants.

[@TranNhatKim]

@@quangminhnguyen2504 Learn proper English before you go online and talk politics. North Vietnam started the Vietnam war by invading Laos, Cambodia and South Vietnam. It's stipulated in the Geneva Accords that Laos and Cambodia be neutral, but you commies invaded in order to bring Pathet Laos and Pol Pot to power so you can use the Ho Chi Minh trail. The Ho Chi Minh trail itself is a violation of the Geneva Accords.

[@TranNhatKim]

@@quangminhnguyen2504 "False elections for Diem". According to Historian Tran Trong Kim, Ho Chi Minh came to power through a rigged election. People in the North were forced to vote for Ho Chi Minh. Ho Chi Minh lost the election in the Central and Southern part of Vietnam, so he had to invite Bao Dai to be his advisor in order to gain the support of the Southern and Central Vietnamese. The North Vietnamese delegation also actively tried to ban reporters into North Vietnam or to report on its "elections", jeez i wonder why.

[@brokenbridge6316]

Nice to know a few more details about this moment in history. My compliments to those who made this video a reality.

[@merdiolu]

It is curious what made French convinced after 1945 that they could keep Indochina as a colony indefinetely ? World War 2 sapped strength of French and despite French resistance et , World War 2 and fall of France in 1940 lowered prestige of France as a great power. In Asia and Africa decolonization was in full swing (Indian subcontinent would gain independence without major bloodshed in 1947) Why did French (De Gaulle temporary goverment and goverments after him) think they could reverse the clock back ?

[@solinvictus4367]

Its like the old saying about a drowning man clinging to a rock. France was humiliated in World War 2 and they craved relevance. The walls were starting to close in for the old European colonial powers so the French fought for their holdings like someone dying and they truly believed they could keep their empire together. I think what truly killed that belief for them and the British was the Suez Crises. Britain and France sent troops to hold onto the Suez Canal but the US and the Soviet Union told them to get lost which they did. That was the point where France and Britain officially stopped being superpowers and the US and Soviet Union took their place

[@theokaraman]

You would be surprised what kind of delusions can be induced by good-old colonial, imperialistic racism.

[@axelpatrickb.pingol3228]

Ptimarily pride, sometimes international power politics. De Gaulle and the French Government wanted a strong France not bullied by both the Americans and the Commies. They wanted to be relevant on the world stage as they saw Europe and Britain becoming Yankee pawns or Moscow puppets. To that end they tried to keep the empire together first as the French Union then the French Community hoping some country would join Metropolitan France as a political department...

[@evrtt_trn]

they would make the same mistake at the Suez and in Algeria. illusions of former glory, refusal to acknowledge natives and their grievances against colonialism,...

[@cbrtdgh4210]

Can you do a video on the Malayan Emergency? The British Empire forces successfully defeated a communist insurgency in Malaya. The communists called it "The Anti-British National Liberation War" but we can see how successful Malaysia and Singapore turned out after the communists were defeated and the British withdrew peacefully.

[@shawngilliland243]

French General Leclerc went there after the end of the Second World War, and made a report on the situation in French Indochina. He said that while a military victory might be had, a long term solution would best be negotiated. The French colonists in Indochine français did not want to lose their privileged lifestyle and the French government wasn't ready to simply leave the colony.

[@Willys-Wagon]

If nothing else WW2 expose the brittleness of European Empires, the hollowness of their rhetoric and claim to freedom, liberty and respect for self determination. Freedom in particular must be paid in blood.

[@cbrtdgh4210]

I'm looking forward to the Korea episode(s)! I think it was a more pivotal moment for the Cold War than even Vietnam. The whole way the war was thought by the Americans in Vietnam and Indochina was a consequence of what had happened in the Korean War.

[@eddienom]

Awesome Video.

[@jimtroy4380]

Very nice video and we expect more on Vietnam! However, could you elaborate on European cold war topics like the Greek civil war? It is a very unpopular yet extremely important topic for the beggining of the Cold War.

[@norrij01]

The Americans spouted freedom from colonial rule post war, then threw Vietnam under the bus. Reap what you sow.

[@thelonestarpelican9343]

The by-product of thinking Communist = Stalin-like, no right to practice religion (a *huge* issue in a religious country like the USA, especially among conservatives). Not to mention thinking all Communist countries loved each other and would stop at nothing to conquer all they can.

[@TranNhatKim]

@@thelonestarpelican9343 Ho Chi Minh spreaded Communism to Cambodia by helping Pol Pot's Khmer rogue. The Cambodian genocide was partially his fault, and a South Vietnamese victory in the Vietnam would have prevented the Genocide.

[@thangnguyenvan7863]

@@TranNhatKim the Pol Pot Khmer rogue happened because it's top leader distance itself from Hanoi direct influence after awhile, then later ask China to help which make China happy.

[@yahwehsonren]

Thank you

[@CanadianMarxist]

Earned a sub :)

[@enchantressdeath1289]

Isn't the last (major) battle of the First Indochina War the Battle of Mang Yang Pass? It took part in late June, way after the Battle of DIen Bien Phu had already ended in early May, 1954

[@HoldOffHunger]

"To know and not do is the same as to not know." ~ Phan Boi Chau

[@huyhuy3837]

Great video, and you've done your research better than most, especially at highlighting the nationalist aspect of Hồ Chí Minh and our struggles. A few minor hiccups: 1) the conference to unite the 3 VN Communist parties were at Hong Kong, not Shanghai. 2) China provided us at most with only weapons and advisors (whose advice for mass-human-wave tactics we ignored at Điện Biên Phủ bc we didn't have THAT many people 😅). It's important to stress this bc HCM knew that once we accepted foreign troops fighting for OUR independence, any legitimacy would be completely lost to the people (see the US backed Sài Gòn Govt). Love your vids nonetheless, and looking forward to more.

[@Nikolay_Milenkov]

The content is great, absolutely amazing! Just one thing: the narrator should put a lot more energy when talking. It’s too monotonous and slow. It’s hard to concentrate sometimes. This is a feedback that you constantly receive, so please consider it. Otherwise amazing!

[@congnhan2807]

i hope you do more detail about vietnam war

[@zmaic74]

Since we're talking about indochina during this period (which is important in cold war history), will you guys also do a decolonisation of countries in southeast asia?

[@azkrouzreimertz9784]

so does this channel have a cooperation with The Great War channel and World War Two channel? because you seem to be copying their format. also links to the materials your are using for the videos would be awesome. besides that though i appreciate your videos, great content!

[@phat.phan1]

I would suggest reading more about the battle of Dien Bien Phu if you want to see attack the castle scenario in modern warfare that is where you should go.

[@rafaelcarvalho3928]

liked it!

[@gastonhitw720]

could you make some videos about vietnam battles, using the same battle map in kings and generals channel? like to see the troops the tactics and all that

[@TheColdWarTV]

We will

[@gastonhitw720]

@@TheColdWarTV noice :D

[@sandiucukertz93]

One of the domino is at Indonesia.... one of the forgotten chapter of cold war I hope this channel will cover it

[@norrij01]

Indeed. The Indonesian war against communism was a serious war. The Malay intervention was also pretty serious. But the crackdown on communists in Indonesia was obscene.

[@mr.n0ne]

it's funny how France returned to recolonize VN after Japan left, and British supporting it. Leading to another costly war with no win, when mainland France itself was receiving financial assistance with Marshall Plan.

[@elfbeaned]

Actually many European states didn't use money they gained to restore economies. Belgium used money to recontroll Congo free state Netherland tried to recapture Indonesia. Portungal tried to manage Portungish Indis and Timor Leste. France returned to Indochina. Brit came to Persia, Malaysia to overthrow the anti-colonial government and replace them by pro colonial dictatorships. The economies healed by their own products.

[@Marinealver]

After the WW2 In Real Time the Korean War and the Vietnam War would make for an interesting series. Depends if Indy wants to do 5 more years of KZbin Videos though.

[@stephenwright8824]

Have you made the Vietnam War video yet?

[@Flow86767]

Hell yeah

[@Xerxezkov]

Finally!!

[@percamihai-marco7157]

I hope that the next episode will be about Korean War.

[@bensagal-morris8072]

Percă Mihai-Marco I think it will be the next one in Asia.

[@SP-rt4ig]

I hope the next episode will be about the Greek Civil War, chronologically speaking.

[@bensagal-morris8072]

sp2004 I think it will be. I hope they go back and forth between the Cold War in Europe, and then in another place, and then back to Europe. Basically I think a pattern will emerge with the episodes.

[@KhanWolf95]

Then move on to the Middle East starting with the Suez Crisis.

[@bensagal-morris8072]

Yang Banger They’re probably going to do the 1953 coup in Iran first.

[@dongochoangkhang]

hello from vietnam i see you make a video about my country of vietnam

[@crisco362]

Question What is in that glass you have? and Do you ever drink it or is it ornamental?

[@12mkamran]

That's a state secret

[@jamestang1227]

Will you cover the Indonesian National Revolution soon?

[@dongochoangkhang]

make a video about indochina war (resistance war against france) and vietnam war (resistance war against america)

[@quincy1713]

There is a Chinese troop fight French in Vietnam when France wants to retake Vietnam in 1945. Later this troop join the PLA and fight US in Korea.

[@vinhlong7347]

Can I have more detail about him, especially his name and his story

[@michaeldunne338]

One point have to question: Doesn't seem like many Free French initially accompanied British forces when the surrender of Japanese forces took place in September (with operation Masterdom). Seems more like a brigade of 20,000 British and Indian troops landed in Saigon. Later about 1,000 French PoWs were rearmed, as disturbance broke out. ` More specifically: [Masterdom] "envisaged the movement by air to Saigon, via Bangkok, of the 80th Infantry Brigade, part of Major General Douglas Gracey’s 20th Indian Division, plus elements of two RAF squadrons and an Allied Control Commission. The latter was to assist Allied prisoners of war and oversee the repatriation of the Japanese. They would be followed by the rest of Gracey’s division, comprising the 32nd and 100th brigades, which would be shipped by sea. In total, almost 26,000 men and 2,400 vehicles were to be deployed to Saigon to maintain law and order." With regards to conventional French formations: "Leclerc’s men would not reach Indochina until October/November 1945." ` I point this out because France was not a participant at the Potsdam Conference, and reentry into S. Vietnam seemed quite dependent on the British aquiescing (just like the return to N. Vietnam depended on cutting a deal with the Chinese Nationalists). ` Now the British would have probably let them back, being a European power, and technically the legal authority over Indochina, and as a favor to a potential ally in politics on the European continent, versus the Soviet Union and/or a future Germany. But Mountbatten supposedly warned the French that Southeast Asia had changed.

[@nicolasfantin6341]

I read in a book about Dien bien phu that the french had a lot of former Waffen-SS soldiers serving in the french foreign legion, guess they wanted some rematch against the communists..

[@noobster4779]

No, but the french didnt give a shit about their backstories (they needed soldiers), The Waffen-SS members thereby got a deacent job, could leave prisoners camps and even got paid without beeing draged to a court. It was a good deal for the SS-Soldiers. For the french values though it was essentially showing them to be worthless. Pragmatism above law and justice.

[@cptrelentless80085]

The British refused to provide them with air support for behaving like Nazis.

[@michealohaodha9351]

@@cptrelentless80085 Didnt stop the Yanks though :)

[@lamolambda8349]

Is this guy Nick Frost and Jay Oakersens baby that got really into history

[@nightviber2097]

"Fan Boi Cao" He obviously played Three Kingdoms as Cao Cao

[@cbrtdgh4210]

Cow Cow, Sao Sao... now I see people even pronounce it as Chow Chow. He's clearly a fan of Chow Mein.

[@SonBui-de6qx]

It’s PHAN BOI CHAU

[@nightviber2097]

@@SonBui-de6qx the joke is on how it sounds .

[@Kelfuma]

The camera view is set too high above David's head. It looks weird.

[@phuongvutran19]

Actually the PRC (people's republic of China) only sent ammo and medicine, NOT troops to Vietnam in the the First Indochina war. Vietnamese actually still fought using their own soldiers and commanders. And another thing is that no one can win a war just using guerrilla tactic, if you use only that tactic you will lose sooner or later and Vietnamese actually did beat French legion army in some conventional combats beside to Dien Bien Phu battle (they, Vietnamese, lost more than they won in hand to hand combat, that's true but they recovered faster than French did and managed to bested them in some open battles)

[@affandi99]

Another unique facts: The guerilla tactics that used by Vietcong actually inspired by Indonesia during the time when Indonesia faced Japan and then NICA (Netherlands Indies Civil Administration), from Angkasa Magazine.

[@nhienleminhhue6605]

another unique facts: The guerilla tactics used by Indonesian during their war of independence actually inspired by many Vietnamese dynasties back the war against Qin, Han, Sui, Song, MIng dynasties of china and mongol-Yuan and in the early year of resistance war against the french in 1800s

[@elfbeaned]

Scorched Earth strategy.

[@DannyMahes]

When I was in HCMC city, I was told that Ho Chi Minh wasn't his real name and it's more akin to a honorific meaning "light bringer." I've tried to look this up but have found conflicting information.

[@shinsaber2109]

It wasn't his real name. His real name was Nguyen Sinh Cung. Ho Chi Minh was the alias adopted by him later in life. Another alias used before by him was Nguyen Ai Quoc. All communist party members at that time used 1 or 2 alias instead of their real name to avoid French secret police.

[@DannyMahes]

@@shinsaber2109 Thank you!

[@ayu1978]

Contextually, it’s “He Who Enlightens” or “The enlightened one”. Light bringer is close enough but it’s a rather crude literal translation.

[@eliascruise6949]

I have a Question. I need a documentary on Mao zedong's relations with Russia from the time he founded the communist party of China until 1949. And also China's and Mao's relations with Russia from 1949 until 1960. And more importantly what happened after 1960 when Russia cut off it's technical support to China. First of all did Russia actually cut off it's technical support to China? Or did Russia and China continue to trade with each other? Did Russia continue to provide technical support until 1967? And did they continue to trade with each other until 1967?. I need a documentary, I need answers to these questions.

[@lucthin6245]

I think if the US had negotiated some sort of deal with the French and Vietnamese, it might of prevent the Vietnam War.

[@Preuen-zs1fz]

1:06 Fan boy chao

[@dongochoangkhang]

vietnam declare independence on september 2 1945 at the same time japan sign surrender

[@FDNY101202]

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[@TheHoagie13]

*Here in Minnesota, WE have a HUGE HMONG COMMUNITY* 💜 A minority that in those three countries (Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia) were ill treated by the locals... Not that racism HERE is ANY BETTER, but no one has to fear the atrocities they witness back in the old countries...

[@ayu1978]

@orinoco sula they were the fiercely independent hill tribes living in the highlands. Traditionally, Vietnamese (both North & South) treat them at best with discrimination and often with hostility. Don’t know where you got your opium and collaboration with the French nonsense from. Although if I was a member of the minority hill tribes often getting screwed by Vietnamese I would rather be friends with the foreigners. That hardly amounts to being a “traitor” or collaborator. How can they be considered traitor when they were never treated properly and as people of the land in the first place? Before integrated by the US Army SF into militias, they hunt with bow and arrows and would rather be left alone actually. Their paltry numbers pose absolutely no threat to the Vietnamese.

[@topdamagewizard]

Liberty, Fraternity and Equality. Unless you have shit we want and people we can exploit. The irony is astounding.

[@DerDop]

everyone knows now that the vietnamese and the americans missunderstood each other.

[@waltmccarthy9837]

Is there a book to read about how France was going to manage it’s colonies after World War Two? Particularly, Vietnam? I’ve always wanted to know for certain how much autonomy the Vietnamese and other colonies had under the French.

[@faisalyudi9284]

How about Indonesia in cold war Can you make story?

[@BritskNguyen]

3:0 it's hong kong, not shanghai, where he chaired the meeting yo.

[@justadoge7530]

Hopefully Cambodia will get the spot.

[@bensagal-morris8072]

I’m guessing Korea will be next.

[@KhanWolf95]

And hopefully the Suez Crisis

[@bensagal-morris8072]

Yang Banger Yeah, that’ll be a little bit, that happened in 1956

[@christermi]

It's possible that the Greek civil war will be the next topic they will cover .

[@christermi]

I mean it makes sense : Bulgaria and Romania - China - Yugoslavia - Vietnam - Greece - Korea

[@christermi]

Also chronologically it comes first .

[@nhienleminhhue6605]

Phan Bội Châu not Fan Boy Chow

[@datboi7893]

hook: HO's MAD x24

paragraph 1:05 write the wrong subtitle in that the word fanboy actually has to write like this: Phan Bumper Chau is right, I contribute my opinion as a Vietnamese

[@kawashimaarisaka2682]

Wondering why dumplings are considered as Commie food.

[@Kaze141vn]

A few words for the channel. Vietnamese's name often comes with symbol on the top or the bottom. Each symbol make the word sound differently and changed it meaning. Same goes for china and japan (in different way but same problem). So please, spend a little more time on the name, you dont need to be 80-90% correct, just dont spell the name into another clock region.

[@stephenwright8824]

Nguyen Ai Quoc or Nguyen the Patriot. Ho Chi Minh or He who Enlightens.

[@pbxn-3rdx-85percent]

French 1940: Help! The Germans invaded us. USA & UK: Help on the way. French 1945: Help! We want to keep our Indochina colonies USA: I advise against that but help is on the way. meanwhile in NATO HQ France: We won't join NATO unless USA helps us with our indochina mess. Hmmmp! France 1954: Dien Bien Phu! how could you? France 1954: Here USA hold this bag of mess while I split. See you later. USA: Hey! Where you going Jacques?! You forgot your croissants. 😆

[@zhongxina7601]

we need call of duty vietnam mission in early 50s or late 40s

[@hidof9598]

Or maybe a completely new game on it As well as on the Korean war

[@benkamelmayssem5780]

My relatives were forced to fight with France in Vietnam because they were involved in the resistance against colonialization and they were treated well by the Vietnamese. We Africans, Tunisians, Algerians, Moroccans, and Senegalese were forced to fight for these cowards against Germans and Vietnamese.

[@jannestiemes4328]

Was Phan Boi Chau a Japanese fanboy?

[@johnvonshepard9373]

Yes he was the first weeb.

[@SonBui-de6qx]

It’s pronounced differently

[@zurinarctus1329]

Sun Yat-Sen was also the weeb too. Vietnamese prince, Cuong De, was a bigger weeb because he married to a Japanese princess.

[@hidof9598]

@@zurinarctus1329 , "sniff" Commie hates Japan 😢

[@stefanschindler422]

A short paperback worth reading ... AMERICA'S INDOCHINA HOLOCAUST -- THE HISTORY & GLOBAL MATRIX OF THE VIETNAM WAR.

[@maus626]

Fan boi chow

[@cbrtdgh4210]

It was easy to see why so many turned to communism at the time. Impoverished masses under colonial rule and the only country willing to help in gaining independence was the Soviet Union. Even Chiang Kai Shek and the KMT was aided by the Soviet Union. It didn't help either that the alternatives were corrupt and incompetent, especially Syngman Rhee of South Korea. Chiang was the best of a bad bunch, a flawed character, but I think he must have been a good man at the core because his son was certainly a great leader for Taiwan ROC.

[@user-zo8hs4yh2h]

CKS did fail mainland though

[@johntechwriter]

It’s “compliant” not “complacent”.

[@Willys-Wagon]

Sometimes I do wonder if the US squandered an opportunity afforded by decolonisation. I had to constantly reminded myself of the shit show that it became. US was wise to support their traditional allies and wait for the smoke to clear, least they become needlessly entangled.

[@SaintAmsterdam]

Bro, tone down the hand gestures. its beginning to haunt my dreams.

[@rich453]

There is ALOT missing here, so much that this video should not represent the post WW2 situation in Indochina. For example, General Gracey's mission, containment, and the Deer Team. Best to avoid this video in it's entirety.

[@pougetguillaume4632]

Let's hope this comment section won't be as cancerous as in any other indochina war video

[@snax_4820]

You must lower the camera position. Due to your bipolar glasses your chin is always to high. And think about how to improve the lighting in order to avoid reflections on them. Furthermore, work on your gestures.They seemed to have no relation to the content and the emphasis of the text. - Anyway, I appreciate your work very much.

[@earljohnson50]

Toto Tata shut up and enjoy the fucking video-great job my neighbor the north!!

[@knutdergroe9757]

Another time the French caused a war.... Proving, my point. The French and British started, or were a major player in every war for the last 600 years.

[@buiquanghuy7589]

Vietnam guerrilla defeated U.S muscle

[@chuanlu]

凯申公毕竟厉害...

[@ilhamionur]

Unlike French he never surrendered.

[@tonyhawk94]

The French colonialism was no longer a popular idea in France and from the gov to the people, few people saw any interest at prolonging this stupid war and empire.

[@mogabriel5238]

@@tonyhawk94 cough cough Algeria cough cough

[@tonyhawk94]

@@mogabriel5238 Yes Algeria is part of these stupid wars. ;)

[@Matt.71]

thats different, algeria was seen as a part of france, not a colony

[@hidof9598]

@@Matt.71 , what changed the opinion

[@brandon9172]

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[@Languslangus]

🇻🇳

[@doanhvu9593]

France won most of the battles, you are wrong. Most of the Viet Minh's ambushes on French convoys were successful, so they were victories against the Viet Minh. In major battles, France's victories were not many:Hanoi ,Haiphong,Vinh Yen,Day river,Mao Khe,Na San Viet Minh victory:Lea and Ceinture(The main purpose of this operation is to completely destroy Vietnam, so it cannot be called victory),Cao Bang,Route colonial 4,Hoa Binh,Nghĩa Lộ,Lorraine, Muong Khoua,Mang Yang pass and Dien Bien Phu. During the Vietnam War, Americans said they won every battle because they used body counts to measure victory.I think this is the dumbest thing to do against guerrilla warfare

[@apostolispouliakis7401]

You should start citing sources